Time Nick Message 07:27 tenplus1 hi folks 07:31 tenplus1 https://cdn.pbrd.co/images/GzK1Ryi.jpg 07:32 tenplus1 hi behalebabo 07:34 tenplus1 hi raven 07:41 Dumbeldor hi 07:41 tenplus1 hi Dumbeldor 07:42 Dumbeldor how are you ? 07:43 tenplus1 good ta, you ? 07:43 tenplus1 https://plus.google.com/photos/albums/pi90hh85bfa8tc38620dan63sci4hmd6i?pid=6439931171617212050&oid=107116593485722236807 07:43 tenplus1 noooooooooooooooooooo dont click that 07:43 tenplus1 wrong window 07:43 tenplus1 https://cdn.pbrd.co/images/GzK1Ryi.jpg <-- click dat 07:44 Dumbeldor good thanks 07:44 Dumbeldor haha 07:44 Dumbeldor sorry i click :D but i dont have a permission ;) 07:44 tenplus1 lolol 07:44 Dumbeldor xD 07:45 Dumbeldor beautiful 07:45 tenplus1 she's losing at Uno so not a happy kid 07:45 Dumbeldor is it your creation ? 07:45 tenplus1 lol no 07:53 Raven262 Hello tenplus1 07:53 tenplus1 o/ 07:53 tenplus1 hi paramat 07:54 * tenplus1 is trying new mapgen... niiiiice 07:54 Raven262 Its awesome 07:54 Raven262 I already found a "bug" 07:54 tenplus1 ooh, lemmie try it with Ethereal.... also.... what bug ????? 07:55 Raven262 YOu know those mountain lakes that generate above the water level? 07:55 Raven262 Well they seem to generate even if there is grass, trees and stuff already there 07:55 tenplus1 arent those highland pools ? 07:55 Raven262 Yea 07:55 Raven262 So i have submerged grass in the lakes 07:55 tenplus1 ouch, that's not good 07:55 Raven262 But trees growing out of the lake look good :D 07:55 tenplus1 looking up mountains for bug 07:56 tenplus1 I do like the river trails it shows... those are a nice touch 07:57 Raven262 I love the mountains, they look really realistic 07:57 paramat bug in carpathian? that has no highland lakes 07:57 Raven262 Well, how did i find it then? 07:58 paramat but if you raise water_level above 1 biomes are misaligned and have submerged grass amd trees 07:58 paramat check your water_level setting 07:59 Raven262 Its on default, i didn't change anything 07:59 tenplus1 it's a very nice mapgen but seems to generate slow 08:00 paramat hm weird 08:00 Raven262 Found one of these lakes: http://i.imgur.com/abYLthO.png 08:01 tenplus1 gonna try with etehreal ?DDD 08:01 tenplus1 o.O that's not right 08:01 Raven262 Gonna try it with LOTT xD 08:02 paramat looks like river water 08:02 Raven262 It is river water 08:02 tenplus1 so this mapgen has different heatmaps thehigher you go 08:03 paramat carpathian doesn't place river water at all, oddly 08:03 paramat in the code 08:03 Raven262 That is very odd 08:03 tenplus1 ooh, snow biome next to jungle :) 08:04 paramat the terrain is very '3D noise' looks more like one of my mapgens 08:05 Raven262 I have checked the surroundings on that place an found the mountains that don't appear in v6 or 7 08:05 Raven262 *and 08:05 Raven262 So i ts not v7 or v6 08:05 Raven262 *its 08:05 Raven262 And i have created the world with carpathian selected 08:06 paramat ok i'll check the seed and co-ords. no mods running? 08:07 Raven262 No mapgen mods except villages 08:07 tenplus1 I really like the landscape it makes... turning ambience on to test with sounds/music :DD 08:08 paramat it should not generate slow, i'll check by timing it 08:08 tenplus1 weirdly it's faster now I'm using ethereal... 08:08 tenplus1 could simply be the amount of biomes/ores registered in default 08:09 tenplus1 I feel it on my wee net-top more than others 08:10 tenplus1 ooOOOOoh, the ambiance music makes it eery as hell exploring at night :D 08:10 Raven262 paramat, i'm not sure but now that i have disabled the villages modpack and running a new world, no river water seem to generate 08:13 tenplus1 cant find any crystal or grey biome 08:14 Raven262 me never found those at all 08:14 Raven262 *me 08:14 Raven262 */me 08:14 Raven262 well then 08:14 tenplus1 you need to use ethereal to add those :D 08:14 * Raven262 never found those at all 08:14 Raven262 I know 08:15 Raven262 I never found them in it 08:15 tenplus1 weird... am using my 'test' seed and typicalyl find them quick... maybe the heatmap in this mapgen is different 08:15 tenplus1 ooh, mesa biome :D 08:16 tenplus1 willows :) yay 08:16 Raven262 How many bioms are there in ethereal? 08:17 Raven262 *biomes 08:17 tenplus1 22 I think... 08:17 tenplus1 gotta re-count... added swamps last time 08:17 Raven262 Well, i found some 6 i think 08:17 Raven262 :P 08:17 Raven262 Also, oceans don't count 08:17 tenplus1 I found a willow forest and prairie 08:17 tenplus1 just need crystal biome and we've got em all 08:17 tenplus1 lol I know 08:17 Raven262 So its 22 without oceans?! 08:18 Raven262 Well thats a lot 08:18 tenplus1 24 08:18 Raven262 Nice 08:19 tenplus1 glacier, bamboo, mesa, alpine, healing, snowy, frost, grassy, caves, grayness, grassytwo, prairie, jumble, junglee, desert, grove, mushroom, quicksand, plains, savannah, fiery, sandclay, swamp 08:20 tenplus1 gotat find swamp and frost and then I'll be happy 08:21 Raven262 Okay, i found: glacier, bamboo, frost, grassy, mushroom, quicksand, fiery, sandclay. Heh thats 8! 08:22 tenplus1 omg, I found the tiniest frost biome with 4x crystal trees... ahahahahaha 08:22 tenplus1 it's kinda rare in this mapgen, but that's not so bad... I wanted crystal ingots to be hard to make 08:22 Raven262 I never found a large one tbh 08:23 Raven262 Do they even get large? 08:23 tenplus1 jungle and healing tree to go now 08:23 tenplus1 they use to... I dunno what changed but you woudl find huge bimoes ages ago 08:23 tenplus1 prolly just depends on the seed used for mapgen 08:24 tenplus1 ahh, found a large one :D nice 08:24 tenplus1 just as the music kicked in...... ominous :PP 08:24 Raven262 Hope its not bamboo biome 08:24 tenplus1 no no, large crystal biome :D 08:24 Raven262 Ah :D 08:24 paramat ok 08:26 tenplus1 still weird that the jungle appears next to a snow biome 08:26 paramat the villages modpack may include a 'highland pools' type mod 08:27 Raven262 Nice that nothing is wrong with the mapgen then 08:27 tenplus1 I may need to squeeze a bimoe inbetween jungle and glacier 08:27 tenplus1 something aint right 08:28 paramat hehe 08:29 tenplus1 219 high bahemoth mountain 08:30 paramat do you have a forum link to the modpack? 08:30 tenplus1 villages ? isnt that in github.com/minetest-mods/ 08:31 paramat the modpack Raven was using 08:31 paramat just want to see what mods are included 08:33 tenplus1 crap, healing tree's arent being placed on map 08:34 tenplus1 paramat: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=13589&hilit=villages+modpack 08:35 paramat thanks 08:37 Raven262 Yea that is the one. 08:37 paramat ok i don't see it but my highland pools mod is probably incuded in there somewhere, which is indeed buggy 08:38 tenplus1 kill it with fire 08:56 tenplus1 back later 09:04 paramat ok tested speed of carpathian, no slower than mgv7, about 100ms per chunk 09:40 JordachL mow 09:40 JordachL meow 09:40 Raven262 MOW! 09:41 JordachL what the actual fuck 09:41 JordachL i was making food at my microwave and the wifi didn't cut out one bie 09:41 JordachL bit 09:41 JordachL yes, this surface was beside it 09:42 Raven262 Your microwave disrupts you wifi? 09:42 Raven262 *your 09:42 JordachL they sometimes do, but most now have shielding for the 2.4ghz bands 09:42 Raven262 Mine never cut my wifi so i guess mine has that kinda shielding 09:43 Raven262 Wait, that means i can disrupt other people's wifi using microwaves? NIce. 09:43 JordachL probably because of new FCC regulations related to https://xkcd.com/654/ 09:44 Raven262 xD 09:44 JordachL i think i know why the wifi specifically potatos on this machine 09:45 JordachL it's the 5ghz band causing issues' 09:45 JordachL the thing is, the main Asus router emits 5G and 2.4G 09:46 JordachL and this wants to use 5G mostly 09:46 Raven262 Can't you connect via LAN? Makes stuff easier 09:46 JordachL no ethernet option downstairs 09:46 Raven262 I mean, look at my room, it might be full of cables but everything works. 09:47 Raven262 Ah 09:47 Raven262 I would never play games over wifi though 09:47 Raven262 Its too inconvenient 09:48 JordachL i use my desktop for games 09:48 JordachL in home streaming with a bluetoom xb controller if needed 09:49 Raven262 Nice 09:50 Raven262 I only have a desktop, since i can use it for almost everything, so i have no need for tablet or a phone. 09:51 JordachL Raven262, http://i.imgur.com/2MlOcMF.png# 09:51 JordachL there's two networks with that name, i'm assuming that might be the cause 09:52 Raven262 I wonder how did you manage that :P 09:52 JordachL it's a dualband router 09:52 JordachL both 5ghz and 2.4ghz 09:52 Raven262 There are three 09:53 Raven262 and its not the only one of which there are three 09:53 JordachL Raven262, my phone and tablet are android based and do the same thing 09:53 JordachL even the linux laptop does it 10:10 tenplus1 hi folks 10:17 Raven262 Hello tenplus1 10:17 tenplus1 heyas 10:17 Raven262 That is, wb tenplus1 10:18 tenplus1 ehe, I has foody now :D 10:20 tenplus1 am watching a Vice show on the sisterhood festival in columbia :P 10:20 tenplus1 hi DS 10:20 DS-minetest hi tenplus1 10:26 tenplus1 hi ruben 10:40 tenplus1 wb Jordach 11:01 tenplus1 hif ixer, hi lisac 11:59 Fixer hi 12:00 tenplus1 o/ 12:28 tenplus1 hi RobbieF 12:30 RobbieF Hi tenplus1! how are you today? 12:30 tenplus1 not too shabby... you / 12:32 tenplus1 got a question for ya, who do you think will win: Intel Core i9 or AMD Ryzen Threadripper CPU's ??? 12:58 tenplus1 hi nrz 13:01 nerzhul hi 13:23 Fixer *,...,* 14:06 Fixer f-ing firefox 14:10 KaadmY ^ 14:14 IhrFussel Hi^^ ... my connection seems to be stable now since my ISP replaced my router box ... maybe it was a hardware problem after all 14:14 Fixer IhrFussel: nobody cares, move along :D 14:15 IhrFussel It's just funny how my ISP told me a week ago "Your router is perfectly fine we see no internal issues" 14:16 IhrFussel And I still wonder how they can even KNOW how healthy my router is without taking it apart 14:17 KaadmY Supper sekrit NSA bakdorz 14:18 IhrFussel They told me they can connect to my router and literally see if there's something wrong...but I don't think you can detect a hardware problem via software 14:19 KaadmY They probably have diagnostics 14:19 KaadmY Plus you could just run a speedtest to see if it's working 14:20 KaadmY Depends on the actual issue though 14:22 IhrFussel They didn't test the connection or speed...they said they are able to see if the router is working properly and I wonder how...I mean yes it is THEIR router so they likely implemented some kind of diagnostic tools into it and made it accessible ... but can you really tell a computer to write down ANY kind of hardware problems? 15:13 tenplus1 http://lolsnaps.com/upload_pic/bb330faf-encryption.png 15:17 ThomasMonroe hehe 15:17 tenplus1 wb octacian, hi Thomas 15:17 ThomasMonroe thats actually funny 15:17 ThomasMonroe hi ten 15:17 tenplus1 :pPpP 15:17 ThomasMonroe XDP 15:18 tenplus1 hu tumeninodes 15:19 tenplus1 *hi 15:19 tumeninodes hu tenplus1 :P 15:19 tenplus1 lol 15:21 tumeninodes hey, there was (or is a PR) to change desert cobble texture..., is it considered ok to add other texture ideas to someone else's PR? 15:22 tenplus1 you can attach an alternative, yes... but tbh I like current texture :PP 15:23 tumeninodes Hold on, let me upload these ex to a host site (which works best here?) 15:24 tenplus1 but... you never know, a texture might appear that's better still :DD 15:26 paramat you can drag images into the github posts, many do that to add a 16x16px texture to a post 15:26 paramat and yes that's ok 15:27 tenplus1 hi para:P 15:27 tumeninodes er, these are a bit bigger example, comparison type images. and hi paramat... 15:30 Sokomine i don't like changes of textures. adding new blocks is fine, but changing existing textures usually is not. i build my structures with the existing textures as found on the server. if the texture changes my creation is modified against my will. it's almost like griefing 15:30 Sokomine but then, some few texture changes are good... 15:31 tumeninodes I can fully understand and relate to that 15:32 Sokomine it's diffrent if a player chooses to play with a texture pack. that's the player's choice then. but changes to mtg's textures are...critical most of the time. unless it's something rarely used in buildings 15:32 tenplus1 true 15:32 tenplus1 am still miffed that Nyan was removed :P 15:34 tumeninodes awwww get over it :P 15:34 tenplus1 lol 15:34 tenplus1 I did... with Nyan Redo :DDDD 15:34 tumeninodes ha 15:34 tenplus1 it has the pup included as well 15:35 Sokomine :-) good 15:35 tenplus1 and MooGnu has it's own mod :D 15:36 ThomasMonroe who likes to program in c++ here? 15:37 tumeninodes these are uuuge! hope irc accepts. https://ibb.co/fGDU7v 15:38 tenplus1 http://media.routard.com/image/67/2/pt845.1213672.w430.jpg actual desert stone 15:38 tumeninodes doh, hit enter before I added the 2d. https://ibb.co/kx5LEa the one on far right is done with a layer so can be faded to taste. but I need to redo as I closed out without saving the xfc :P 15:44 tumeninodes I love desert photos. Never been to one, but love the imagery. 15:47 tumeninodes file:///home/paul/Downloads/default_desert_cobble-2.png 15:47 tumeninodes file:///home/paul/Downloads/default_desert_cobble_3.png 15:47 tumeninodes file:///home/paul/Downloads/default_desert_cobble_4.png 15:47 tenplus1 http://www.funnyjunk.com/Fake+news/funny-pictures/6324168/ 15:48 Fixer https://video.twimg.com/tweet_video/DEI2KSaXcAAMvDT.mp4 15:48 tumeninodes well those didnt work :P I thought drag n drop worked here? 15:49 KaadmY Hehe 15:50 tenplus1 hi KaadmY 15:50 KaadmY Yo tenplus1 15:50 tumeninodes hi Kaadmy. Well, now you all know my computer's name... 15:50 KaadmY :P 15:51 KaadmY Fun fact: if you have a WM binding to toggle between two window sizes (windows and fullscreen for me) some nodes and objects randomly don't draw in Minetest 15:52 tenplus1 strange 15:52 KaadmY Well and if you hold that binding down 15:54 ThomasMonroe tenplus1 do you do any c++ programming of your own? 15:54 tenplus1 http://68.media.tumblr.com/048c74776df48d621d77f26529df9a82/tumblr_mpxeoj265Z1rhrzbzo1_500.png dawww, tiny Danger Noodle 15:54 tenplus1 I only tinker thomas, the line_of_sight change pull took me a week to figure out... hah 15:55 KaadmY Trying to get good shader lighting in Minetest 15:55 ThomasMonroe lol 15:55 KaadmY Ie. directional lighting on all models 15:55 KaadmY Including the world 15:55 KaadmY It's almost working.. 15:56 tumeninodes ooooo... Kaadmy does shaders? nice 15:56 tenplus1 ooh, sounds good... what kinda performance drop ? 15:56 KaadmY tumeninodes: yea 15:56 KaadmY tenplus1: no performance drop 15:56 KaadmY That I'm noticing at least 15:57 KaadmY On a potato laptop 15:57 tenplus1 :)) add pull when it's all working :D would love to see that inengine 15:57 tumeninodes lotta work 15:57 tenplus1 i can imagine 15:57 KaadmY It's like 20 lines actually 15:58 KaadmY For world geometry at least 15:58 KaadmY Models will be a bit harder 15:58 KaadmY Since I'll have to get nearby light sources and adjust for that 15:58 KaadmY BTW models don't use shaders, at all 15:58 paramat Sokomine how about desert cobble just having mortar recoloured to dark red instead of pink? 15:58 tumeninodes paramat, that is what I was doing last night 15:59 tenplus1 broken desert stone irl has a white/light chalky dust when broken.. current texture is accurate 15:59 tumeninodes thpltpltpltplt 15:59 ThomasMonroe paramat, does the desert cobble texture line up with the cobble one? 16:00 paramat well that's meant to be mortar i think not dust 16:00 tumeninodes current texture is .... pink 16:00 KaadmY *LIGHT RED 16:00 tenplus1 lol, light is good 16:00 tumeninodes :P well, it could do with some darkening 16:01 KaadmY Hm now I have a problem 16:01 KaadmY Outdoors, torches actually darken stuff 16:01 paramat it doesn't line up 16:01 tumeninodes even if just a bit... 16:01 tenplus1 http://unique-landscapes.com/wp-content/gallery/belgard-pavers/cambridgecobble_desert.jpg pink mortar 16:02 tenplus1 https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0914/3722/products/LPT-35_large.jpg?v=1495256373 light mortar 16:02 VanessaE get your eyes fixed, tenplus1. that's amber colored :) 16:02 tumeninodes Kaadmy, as long as you don't see red.. you're on the right track :D 16:02 tenplus1 heh, hi Vanessa 16:02 tumeninodes hi Vanessa 16:02 VanessaE also hi :) 16:02 tenplus1 http://www.rueletfrere.com/meganet/media/images/catalogue/pierre/BuechelMosaicLine/Desert_Webwall_River_Rock.jpg 16:03 tenplus1 in other words, the current texture is good.. leave changes for texture packs 16:03 tumeninodes is looking for shiny things to distract tenplus1 16:03 tenplus1 lol 16:03 KaadmY tumeninodes: I can make everything neon red if you'd like 16:03 VanessaE heh 16:04 tenplus1 I got no end of complaints when snow texture was changed, had to go back to the old one to keep players happy 16:04 tumeninodes Kaadmy: I meant regarding shaders 16:04 tenplus1 so much is built on servers atm with current textures 16:04 VanessaE tumeninodes: if it's wanted, I could make a PR for that "extra material" revision on the stairs after your code goes in 16:04 KaadmY tumeninodes: yes 16:04 KaadmY BTW if shaders are red, that means you're using D3D 16:04 KaadmY Which I can't use because Linux 16:05 KaadmY The closest I can do is intentionally making everything red 16:05 tumeninodes it means you done fucked up 16:05 KaadmY :P 16:05 KaadmY Actually if you f**k up everything loses transparency for me 16:05 tumeninodes Vanessa, that sounds good 16:05 KaadmY If the shaders don't compile 16:05 KaadmY This is what happens if I completely disable all shading on everything https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/305843485687414796/332636822209560577/screenshot_20170706_143930.png 16:06 KaadmY And this happens when I'm bored https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/305843485687414796/332626239275794434/screenshot_20170706_135733.png 16:06 tenplus1 ooh 16:06 KaadmY How slow is g_settings->getBool? 16:06 KaadmY Or is there a better global way of seeing of shaders are enabled 16:07 tumeninodes I actually like the 2d pic... I got there once :P 16:07 KaadmY :P 16:07 tumeninodes my water was red though 16:08 tumeninodes have to go afk for a few 16:08 tenplus1 hi red 16:08 KaadmY Hm 16:09 KaadmY For basically every face in the world, I'm checking `g_settings->getBool("enable_shaders")` 16:09 KaadmY And I don't see a performance drop 16:09 tenplus1 wont it be cached on load anyhow ? 16:09 KaadmY Yeah 16:10 KaadmY But you can't toggle shaders while a map's loaded IIRC 16:10 KaadmY Haha you can 16:10 KaadmY Looks creepy when parts of the map have no lighting 16:11 KaadmY https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/305843485687414796/332916548916346892/screenshot_20170707_091055.png 16:12 Calinou hi 16:12 tenplus1 hi cal 16:12 Calinou tenplus1: for what it's worth, the Intel Core i9 is a joke, lol 16:12 Fixer ih 16:13 Fixer Calinou: buy it 16:13 tenplus1 agree'd... checked reviews and tech specs... it's quite unstable 16:13 tenplus1 the new AMD is much bette 16:15 Fixer C O M P I L E __ T I M E 16:16 paramat KaadmY a setting should be cached in a variable, shaders are not toggled in-game so a cache is fine, or use a 'const' variable 16:16 KaadmY Yeah doing that 16:21 KaadmY Is there a global structure for state storage? 16:33 Sokomine KaadmY: if i don't update lighting in mg_villages quite a lot of them end up in shadow 16:46 Calinou https://matrix.org/blog/2017/07/07/a-call-to-arms-supporting-matrix/ 16:46 Calinou rip in pepperoni 17:05 Krock hi tenplus1 17:06 tenplus1 hi Krock 17:06 * tenplus1 is trying to redeem steam codes on steam's own website... cant seem to do it without actual program... pah! 17:09 Krock http://gaben.tv/ 17:09 KaadmY tenplus1: FYI Steam gift cards need a street address still 17:10 tenplus1 I got a bundle stars pack a whlie back and forgot to add games to steam account, need to isntall steam to do that 17:18 RobbieF sorry tenplus1 - I lose chats if people don't say 'RobbieF' -- get so busy at work. 17:18 RobbieF Definitely intel 17:18 tenplus1 ehehe 17:19 RobbieF Especially when you consider Macs are Intel now 17:19 RobbieF so they have both the PC and Mac market 17:20 tenplus1 was reading tech specs, they kinda released the Intel i9 too soon as it has stability issues 17:24 RobbieF uh oh 17:24 RobbieF hadn't heard that 17:25 RobbieF PS - VR videos are up! 17:25 tenplus1 yeah, watched the VR one earlier... did you get the see the youtube link I sent ? 17:25 RobbieF nope 17:25 RobbieF does it need sound? 17:25 tenplus1 you can mute, it's the visual aspect that's amazing... 17:26 tenplus1 a brand new 3d engine 17:27 tenplus1 but is worth a watch with sound :D 17:35 tenplus1 wb Jordach 17:59 tumeninodes Hi everyone 17:59 tenplus1 wb 17:59 tumeninodes Man you're quick :P 17:59 tenplus1 :P 18:00 tumeninodes VanessaE: I think stairs texturing is going to need a revamp going into 0.5.0 18:01 tenplus1 how so ? 18:01 tumeninodes just using a static, single texture is always going to look odd 18:02 tenplus1 does minecraft use a wrap-around texture for stairs ? 18:03 tumeninodes idk, I have never used it, only have watched my kid play but never actually "looked" at them 18:03 tumeninodes I do know MC using a far more sophisticated placement system 18:04 tumeninodes it can decipher inner or outer corner stair based in the angle of normal stairs on each side 18:06 Krock octacian, the links in https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=15095 are down - do you still have a copy of the mod? Someone demanded it in #minetest 18:06 tumeninodes using a single texture is a 50/50 crapshoot with MTG 18:06 Shara Hello all 18:06 tenplus1 hi shara 18:06 Shara Hi 11 18:06 tumeninodes Hi Shara, hi Krock 18:06 Shara Hi tumeninodes 18:06 Krock hi tumeninodes, Shara 18:06 * Krock tries to write "tsunaminodes" 18:06 tumeninodes Hi Johnboy 18:07 tumeninodes haha 18:07 * Shara offers Krock a doughnut. 18:07 Shara Ten can't have any, because he ran off with all of them the other day. :) 18:07 * Krock noms and thanks 18:07 tumeninodes I like that actually... hmmm, another name change? (contemplating) 18:07 tenplus1 k, I checked minecraft texture pack and only slabs have an alternative texture for top/side... so stairs must make use of the current textures... so if we find out how they do that we could possibly apply 18:08 Krock tumeninodes, it's not the community that decides over your nick. Find your best matching :) tumeninodes is good as well 18:08 tumeninodes can only have 1 because "the diabetes" 18:08 tumeninodes Krock, well, I changed from "the GreatOne" early on 18:09 Krock with space in the middle? wow, nice hack, bro ;) 18:09 tumeninodes :P 18:10 tumeninodes it's all about spaces 18:11 paramat textures for stairs is ok and the inner/outer stairs look ok, that issue i posted may be fixable in the model 18:11 tumeninodes I had just watched a Jackie Gleason movie before first opening an acct 18:12 tumeninodes paramat: I just tried the new model, the riser is off and the top with inner stair 18:12 tumeninodes fixable will be via uvmap layouts, which means no more wrap around 18:19 paramat will test 18:24 tenplus1 hi nrz 18:25 paramat yeah it was wrong but we now have the correct one 18:28 tumeninodes yes, the latest looks very nice. But please see my comment... I honestly feel going into 0.5.0 some serious considerations/choices should be made, but it is just my opinion. 0.5.0 is the opportunity to do many things the right way 18:28 tumeninodes this current solution could be kept for 0.4.xx compat 18:31 paramat this is good for merge once updated 18:32 tumeninodes :) 18:33 paramat i'll try out various materials to see if any look bad 18:34 tumeninodes my concern about other TPs, is irrelevent actually, as the focus should be about how it all looks in default settings 18:34 KaadmY Has anybody considered a fog API for modding? 18:35 KaadmY It would be really helpful for weather effects like heavy rain or snow 18:35 paramat ok, i expect what looks best (the fixed model) for our default texture pack will look best for other TPs too 18:35 paramat fog API would be good 18:36 KaadmY The only problem I can think of for a fog API is that it'd have to also use the client's fog 18:36 KaadmY So it'd have to be a multiplier < 1 18:36 KaadmY Even that isn't really sufficient 18:36 KaadmY Since if the client has really far fog or even disabled fog it wouldn't work 18:39 tenplus1 an api to set fog distance and colour would be great for potions of darkness/sight loss etc 18:39 tenplus1 also multi layered dimensions :DD 18:39 KaadmY ^ above issues though 18:39 KaadmY What if the client disables fog? 18:39 KaadmY Or makes the fog distance really far so it's useless? 18:40 tenplus1 so long as it GETS fog distance before changing and returns back to it's old value after... 18:43 KaadmY Well the fog should always be <= the client's setting 18:43 KaadmY So every client will have different fog 18:44 tenplus1 if a mod changed fog setting and distance it has to remember it's original status... so long as it goes back to that after change it's fine 18:45 tenplus1 this would make me enable fog since it has a good use 18:50 tenplus1 tumeninodes: will this help, minecraft stair definition/textures: http://minecraftmodcustomstuff.wikia.com/wiki/Stairs 18:53 paramat i can't see issues, clouds are clientside too but now have an API 18:54 KaadmY But fog is also tied to viewing range or it would look strange 18:55 paramat ahh 18:57 KaadmY Schematics and decorations should also have a "replace" mode 18:57 KaadmY So they'll only place nodes if the node's space is already occupied 18:57 KaadmY Like dungeons 18:57 paramat i think the modder will just have to keep that in mind when setting fog 18:58 KaadmY Should it be a thing like get_fog/set_fog? 18:58 tumeninodes tenplus1: thanks. haha MC has a similar issue (from that page) "Custom Stuff will give an error when you use metadata values, so you cannot, for example, make the stairs texture chang depending on its facing." 18:58 KaadmY And get_fog returns the client's settings? 18:58 tenplus1 they have an outer stair for left and right sides, and an inner stair for left and right sides.. that's why they look better cause it registers twice the amount 18:59 tumeninodes ...tumeninodes :P 19:00 tumeninodes updating branch,,, Grrrr, what is Travis' problem >:( 19:02 Krock click on the red cross/orange bullet to get the logs 19:03 tumeninodes tenplus1, That is what I did with angled stairs, it fixes the issue somewhat, but adds much to inventory. I imagine MC has those extras not set to show in inv, same as MTG does for the 5 various heights of grass and dry grass 19:03 Krock sometimes it's just our code style check bot "LINT" who complains about some nonsense changes 19:04 tenplus1 mc only has 1 stair in inventory, they auto join depending on placement 19:04 tumeninodes Thanks Krock. yeh, I think it's just running slow right now? "Hang tight, the log cannot be shown until the build has started." 19:04 Hijiri tumeninodes: would you say it adds too many nodes? 19:05 tumeninodes HiHijiri (see what I did)? and YES, that's what I'm sayin' I mean, Im not sayin'... Im just sayin' 19:06 tumeninodes it adds "tsunaminodes" 19:07 Krock tumeninodes, this means it's in the queue. You can look at all pending builds in a some kind of overview page to see when yours is going to start 19:08 tumeninodes sigh... "Travis was always a very slow child..." (the Travis documentary) 19:09 tumeninodes Krock, can't someone write a script to cut into the queue? :P 19:10 tumeninodes afk 19:12 Krock either access violation (segfault) or access denied 19:14 paramat checks passed :] 19:17 tenplus1 hi DI3HARD139 19:18 DI3HARD139 Hello 19:28 octacian Krock: Yes, I do still have a copy of the mod. Maybe. Depends on if I get can server-side git directory to restore properly 19:29 octacian If all else fails, I'll just rewrite it. That was one of my first mods, so IMO the code wasn't the best 19:29 octacian Krock: Who asked? 19:31 octacian Krock: Ah, found the person. Thanks for forwarding the request to me :D 19:33 tumeninodes tenplus1: "mc only has 1 stair in inventory, they auto join depending on placement" Yep, this would be great to see if it could be added to MT as well, placement prediction. 19:34 tenplus1 yeah... pain in the butt though :P hehe... I kinda like stairs redo as-is... 19:35 tumeninodes paramat: "checks passed" :D yeehaa. When you do add the new placement, what are the chances of attempting a predictive placement function? just asking 19:35 tumeninodes I like stairs redo as well, it's pretty crafty the way you set it up 19:36 paramat it was suggested, but i'm not keen because it would place in ways you don't want it to when building creatively. better (and simpler) to just place according to diagonal view direction as with most MT nodes 19:37 tenplus1 yeah... stairs redo lets me place quite easily by clicking on floor/side/ceiling or holding sneak... all angles detected 19:37 tumeninodes paramat, ok, I'm good with that, as I am mostly a creative builder anyway 19:39 tenplus1 did you see the screenshot I pasted earlier ? 19:39 tumeninodes the only thing that can get me at times is upright slabs when placing a whole bunch, quickly :P 19:40 tenplus1 https://cdn.pbrd.co/images/GzK1Ryi.jpg 19:40 tumeninodes tenplus1, I probably did but with my memory issues I forget :( 19:41 tumeninodes oh yes, I did see that... beautiful build 19:41 tenplus1 that's using stairs/corners/slopes... was nicely done :D 19:41 tumeninodes nice colors and style 19:42 tenplus1 louie is indeed a good builder, as is skrote and a few other players :D 19:42 tumeninodes some of the things I see people build are breathtaking... PEAK for one, especially 19:42 tenplus1 we had someone re-create the shakespear theatre... so detailed 19:43 tumeninodes I would love to see that! 19:44 tumeninodes I have rebuilt a castle which is roughly 300+ x 300+ nodes diameter, etc.. about 5 times now, and never finished because I am still tinkering with a mapgen that is just right for it before I try again 19:44 tenplus1 I think it's on the white path from spawn 19:44 tenplus1 next to a huge desertstone and purple stained wood castle 19:45 tumeninodes I'm going to have to check that out. To date, I still have not once gone onto any server :P 19:45 tenplus1 sometimes a day trip on someone else's server is a good thing, it gived you ideas and lets you chill 19:46 Shara I love exploring servers for nice builds 19:46 tumeninodes the biggest thing which has held me back is.... "kids" 19:46 KaadmY 19:46 Shara You can get good ideas for mods to experiment with or improve on as well 19:47 tenplus1 setup an account for the kids and wander as a family :) day trip :D 19:47 tumeninodes Kaadmy turned off text shaders? :P 19:47 Shara Yup, lots of servers are family friendly 19:47 Shara I've had a few parent with kids groups on mine 19:47 tumeninodes oh I didn't mean my kids... I meant dealing with the PSI kids on servers haha 19:48 tumeninodes PSI = Parental Supervision Impaired 19:48 Shara Oh, just make sure it's well moderated servers 19:48 tenplus1 lol 19:48 tumeninodes I'm gonna make it a "thing" and get govt funding to study it :D 19:48 KaadmY tumeninodes: :P 19:48 KaadmY 19:48 KaadmY You can type spaces in IRC 19:49 tumeninodes I really think I will actually give in and visit a couple servers this weekend 19:49 Shara You're very welcome to look at RedCat if you like creative :P 19:49 tenplus1 ooh, do the library maze :DDD 19:50 Shara Hehehe... now now 11, I don't want to scare new players away that quick :P 19:50 tumeninodes I've seen some RedCat shots and Xanadu and LazyJ's looks cool too.., so many 19:50 Shara Two winners to date... in a good bit over a year now. 19:50 Shara That maze murders people. 19:51 tenplus1 yep, your will to live is sapped :PPP 19:51 KaadmY tumeninodes: if you want to try experimental survival, Pixture :P 19:51 Shara tumeninodes: http://rc.minetest.tv/building-projects/ :) 19:51 tumeninodes oh... just like in RL? :P 19:51 tumeninodes Kaadmy: I will visit all of these 19:52 Shara I'm so bad at updating the screeshots there. 19:53 KaadmY Actually there's no Pixture servers up right now 19:53 KaadmY Calinou's hosting one but it's not listed yet 19:53 tumeninodes 8 o so many awesome looking builds! my eyes are boggling 19:53 tenplus1 so many servers now... the list has exploded 19:53 Shara Only so many really active ones though 19:53 tenplus1 true... I dare say many personal one's 19:54 tumeninodes eventually I will get goffy and go troll some kids haha 19:54 tenplus1 mwhehehe 19:54 Shara And very few active Creative servers 19:54 tumeninodes *goofy 19:54 tenplus1 sigh on as "SkyDoesMinecraft" ;PPPP 19:54 tenplus1 *sign 19:55 tumeninodes ha 19:56 tenplus1 converting books to transfer to kindle :PP Calibre is a damn good tool 19:56 tumeninodes I have been thinking about Exploding Chests for a while 19:57 tenplus1 ooh, the mc like mobs should have the mimic mob we can skin to look like minetest chests and have it attack player DD 19:57 tumeninodes I just saw that on YawCraft haha Love those guys 19:58 tumeninodes would be so cool to get people together to create a quick game map and ask them to try it 19:58 ThomasMonroe lol 19:59 tumeninodes the idea I have for chest is like chance-chests. If it has good stuff inside, it opens with a "tada" sound, if not it makes a "wah wah wahhhh" then explodes and kills you :P 19:59 tumeninodes Hi Thomas 20:00 tenplus1 heh, sounds like lucky blocks mod :DDD 20:00 Shara Pet mimics as house guards would be fun 20:01 tenplus1 yeah... someone wrote a guard mod as well 20:01 tumeninodes there are two, aren't there? One build off of the original 20:02 tenplus1 which mod is this ? 20:02 tumeninodes the guards jump pretty dang high though when following up an incline 20:02 tenplus1 heh 20:03 tumeninodes https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=17483&hilit=guards 20:03 tumeninodes I have tested with the 2d version 20:04 tenplus1 ah yes, that one looks good 20:04 tenplus1 in Xanadu we tame wolves into dogs that follow us around and protect player from harm, same with npc and Igors (halloween special mob) 20:04 tumeninodes it's fun. but, if they are following you up a hill, they launch like superman 20:05 tumeninodes I want an owl 20:06 tenplus1 heh 20:06 tenplus1 nite all :P 20:06 tenplus1 o/ 20:06 tumeninodes nite 20:07 tumeninodes I need to go feed my diabetes :P ttyl everyone 20:11 lisac Calinou, Wanna play Quake 3? 20:14 Raven262 Yea, Calinou, we are a bunch of Quake3 noobs and wanna play :D 20:15 lisac |tell everyone Hi 20:15 lisac !tell 20:15 ShadowBot lisac: tell 20:15 lisac !tell everyone Hi 20:15 ShadowBot lisac: O.K. 20:15 lisac wow 20:15 lisac oh everyone is a nick 20:15 Raven262 xD 20:15 lisac !tell * Hi 20:15 ShadowBot lisac: O.K. 20:15 lisac wow 20:15 lisac :P 20:15 lisac Hi lisac. 20:15 Raven262 I believe * is red's nick 20:16 lisac possibly 20:40 Fixer hi 20:44 Sokomine hi fixer 20:45 KaadmY hi 20:53 KaadmY WTH 20:54 KaadmY I tried copying 2 different specular implementations off the internet 20:54 KaadmY They both act the same as mine 21:03 Fixer t e s t i n g s t a i r s 21:07 Shara Have to love when a new player shows up and makes something interesting: http://i.imgur.com/vMCQfNB.png 21:07 Raven262 Nice build. 21:08 Sokomine Shara: very nice build. ought to be day to see it in full 21:09 Shara I didn't take the screenshot myself. 21:09 Shara But it's by a player I never came across before, so really happy to see something so creative :) 21:10 Calinou lisac: Raven262: maybe 21:10 Calinou I have a server 21:10 Calinou (not on the list) 21:11 Calinou /connect hugo.pro:27961 21:13 Raven262 Okay Calinou, i'll check it out 21:13 red-001 dunno why I just tried to connect to that using my IRC client 21:17 Raven262 xD 21:23 Fixer It is time https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/pull/1822 21:23 Fixer Calinou: enjoying MC beta 1.7.3 21:24 Fixer i feel like MTG can move in this direction, it is not overcomplicated, just add mobs, ambience, weather and simple automation, more interactivity - voila 21:24 Fixer basicly things described in nore issue for MTG direction 21:27 KaadmY Hehe 21:30 Sokomine Shara: a new good buildier is always a very welcomed sight :-) 21:31 Fixer Sokomine: square cobble housing intensifies* 21:34 Fixer carpathian mapgen has altitude chill or not? 21:40 KaadmY ^ That sounds neat 21:50 paramat no altitude chill 21:54 Calinou Raven262, lisac, you guys both timed out it seems 21:55 Megaf_ Hi all 21:55 Megaf_ Im back home! 21:55 bigfoot547 Hi Megaf_ 21:55 Megaf_ After nearly 3 years away from my family and my computer 21:55 Megaf_ so good to be using my old workstation again :) 21:56 KaadmY WB Megaf_ ;) 21:56 Fixer mmmm, carpathian, very tall mountains - my dream comes true 21:56 Megaf_ Just add to add this channel to my old XChat channel list 21:57 Megaf_ Fixer, link 21:57 Fixer Megaf_: it is ingame already 21:57 Megaf_ Now, I have absolutely no idea where Megaf nick is connected from 21:57 Fixer i've seen as high as 400 21:57 Megaf_ Fixer, Oh my 21:58 Megaf_ !server Megaf 21:58 ShadowBot Megaf_: server [--{name,address,ip,players,ping,port} ] 21:58 Megaf_ we still dont have that command here 21:58 Fixer hold on 21:58 Megaf_ my server was migrated from Xen to KVM 21:59 Fixer nevermind 21:59 Megaf_ uat? 21:59 Megaf_ what 22:00 Megaf_ meh, I had forgotten how painfully slow HDs are 22:02 Fixer paramat: tin st/slab will not conflict, i've actually tested it with inner/outer stairs PR and it worked 22:02 Fixer https://i.imgur.com/UkG5a0p.png 22:03 Fixer carpathian with clouds at 40 22:03 Fixer for dramatic look 22:03 Calinou also, I made a dank quotememe on a Discord server: 22:03 Calinou https://lut.im/iz91vsD4cn/hJ2vSFhe361fKKBc.png 22:04 Calinou lol, "quotememe", wanted to remove "meme" 22:04 Calinou :D 22:04 KaadmY Aw come ON 22:04 KaadmY If you do /giveme default:stone 10000 it splits it up into stacks now 22:05 KaadmY WHYYYYYYYY 22:05 Megaf_ KaadmY, Thats terrible 22:05 Fixer look at this https://i.imgur.com/pi9rHN8.jpg 22:05 Megaf_ KaadmY, do you have github? 22:06 Megaf_ Fixer, totally unrealistic (This is bad) 22:06 Fixer Megaf_: totally realistic here 22:06 KaadmY Megaf_: yep 22:07 Fixer even Brasil has those kinds of mountains 22:07 Megaf_ KaadmY, open issue, describe how behaviour was, how it is, and how you thing is the ideal one. You will have my support and commend on that issue 22:07 KaadmY Megaf_: it's intentional I bet 22:07 Megaf_ yep 22:07 Calinou KaadmY: btw, /giveme default:stone -1 22:07 Calinou gives you 65535 cobble 22:07 Calinou thanks integer overflow! :D 22:07 KaadmY LOL 22:07 Calinou stone, not cobble, here 22:07 KaadmY Nope 22:07 KaadmY Doesn't work 22:07 Calinou it used to work 22:08 Megaf_ Calinou, report bug 22:08 Calinou that was really handy 22:08 KaadmY It just adds a partial stack now and limits it 22:08 KaadmY WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY 22:08 * Megaf_ using his old 40" FullHD monitor 22:08 * Megaf_ is happy 22:08 Megaf_ I dont want to come back to my life in Ireland 22:11 paramat carpathian mountain up to 500 https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/3686677/27852417-f66bc80c-6156-11e7-9970-149fce9983ba.png 22:11 KaadmY :O 22:12 KaadmY :OO 22:12 KaadmY :OOO 22:12 Fixer paramat: seeeeed 22:12 paramat didn't take long to find that so higher is possible 22:13 paramat not sure i have the seed 22:14 Fixer i've very complex one up to 400 iirc, it was very big and nice 22:14 Fixer huuge 22:14 Fixer not just spiked 22:14 Fixer but huuuge complex 22:15 KaadmY MGv5 probably has the most fantasy mountains 22:16 Megaf_ paramat, that looks like a Disney castle 22:17 Megaf_ with a hot air balloon in the back even 22:17 Megaf_ terrible man 22:19 Fixer KaadmY: it is not fanstasy, more like mountaineous 22:19 paramat ok got seed and co-ords 22:19 Fixer nice 22:19 Fixer lets see how fast i can climb it 22:21 paramat https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/6015#issuecomment-313806618 22:21 bigfoot547 What flags do I have on this channel with chanserv? 22:22 Fixer paramat: thanks 22:22 paramat turns out i did take a screenshot with seed and co-ords because i was so impressed 22:24 paramat oddly enough i called that world 'ass' 22:24 Fixer found it, height is 506 22:25 KaadmY :D 22:25 Fixer starting from nearby 0 now 22:25 bigfoot547 Anyone? 22:32 Megaf_ voice: 22:32 Megaf_ ? 22:32 Megaf_ that is +v 22:33 Fixer it has caves 22:33 bigfoot547 If you type /msg ChanServ flags #minetest-hub bigfoot547 it'd show you 22:33 bigfoot547 I'm trying to set up auto-voice on another channel 22:33 paramat yeah tunnels exist high up too 22:34 Fixer climbed 22:34 Fixer 9 minutes to climb 22:34 Fixer tried to do it without much pillaring 22:35 Fixer often bumping up by 1 block 22:36 Fixer view from top https://i.imgur.com/gmDFSM6.png 22:38 Fixer view from starting position https://i.imgur.com/RKpIQOT.png 22:38 Fixer another screen after cloud 22:39 Fixer https://i.imgur.com/cipHPRf.png 22:39 Fixer reminds me of Alps 22:41 Fixer https://i.imgur.com/TLDaKnc.jpg 22:41 Fixer another world breaking ascent by Fixer 22:42 Fixer after Mountain Meru 22:42 Fixer in survival on multiplayer server 22:42 Calinou https://lut.im/3626Apu4dM/tkQaxLUfVANJrptO.jpg 22:42 Calinou https://lut.im/K860MxQ3cF/OJLXz987nSU4h8Kf.png 22:42 Calinou https://lut.im/JHebl0QBnn/wmKJyxSPu8S5aCTf.png 22:42 Calinou https://lut.im/MC1b0w2kHb/AnKCGijKjE493VfX.png 22:42 Calinou https://lut.im/aGzhToCct0/7Iw1Itl5z3sb0Km6.png 22:42 Calinou I gave my old Godot games (Veraball and Platshoot) a run today, Veraball was made in November 2015, and Platshoot in January 2016 22:42 Calinou both over 1-2 weeks (not full-time) 22:43 Calinou I was studying at university during these times :P 22:43 Fixer nice 22:49 Fixer ghosting on my LCD 23:18 Fixer gn 23:21 bigfoot547 By Fixer