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05:56 srifqi So, how to use Travis CI build?
05:56 srifqi My building progres is still at 9%.
05:57 srifqi nerzhul,
05:58 nerzhul it's not a use case, more a working example
06:00 srifqi :O
06:01 srifqi Well, I just run buildwin32.sh and tweak some value on toolchain_mingw.cmake.
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11:57 nerzhul https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/1905​9927_10203340807558086_266623055909717707_n.jpg?oh​=d3e47b98926ab43bb0f6abfad2076710&oe=59D395E8
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12:17 Jordach pffff
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12:40 nerzhul Jordach, is WTFIO
12:46 Jordach uwotm7
12:57 Fixer VanessaE: your servers are insanely slow right now, network problems or smth
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13:12 Calinou just saying, but Minetest at 1920x1080 fullscreen runs much faster than 3840x2160 fullscreen with undersampling = 2
13:12 Calinou :/
13:12 Calinou and that's on Windows
13:12 Calinou not sure if we can solve this
13:14 Fixer Calinou: not a gaming laptop
13:15 Fixer if you want to play in 3840x2160, you need a gaming laptop or PC
13:15 Calinou Fixer: yeah, but 1920x1080 is fine
13:15 Calinou even at view range 150 (tested in singleplayer)
13:15 benrob0329 Calinou: the GPU has to scale the image up
13:15 benrob0329 For every frame
13:15 Calinou benrob0329: true, but judging of how undersampling was implemented in Minetest...
13:15 Calinou looks inefficient to me
13:15 benrob0329 Probably is
13:15 Calinou also, you will get better rendering with upscaled 1920x1080 because it's blurred instead of pixelated
13:16 Calinou the Minetest undersampling doesn't perform any filtering...
13:16 Calinou Fixer: gaming laptops are bricks anyway, I'm not getting one of these again :P
13:16 benrob0329 Fatops FTW
13:17 benrob0329 You can actually take them apart
13:19 Calinou yeah, but if you spec your ultrabook right from the start, you probably won't ever need to upgrade them
13:19 Calinou taking laptops apart is nice, but it also makes them look ugly from the outside with all these gaps :)
13:19 benrob0329 "Ever"
13:19 Calinou this one has 16 GB of RAM (soldered) and 512 GB SSD (replaceable), probably will be enough for 3-4 years for most use cases
13:19 benrob0329 Hah, haha, hahahahaha
13:20 Calinou eh, I don't see basic programs requiring 32 GB of RAM soon
13:20 Calinou also, you should complain at MacBooks where not even the SSD is replaceable
13:20 benrob0329 Depends, although the old thinkpads still work fine from what I hear
13:20 Calinou using an old laptop is never a fun thing, so I don't care
13:21 benrob0329 What im saying is that they still work, as will newer laptops for about as long, if not longer
13:22 nerzhul if a program require more than 4GB ram and is not a game it's not justified (and for many games it's not too)
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13:37 Megaf Hello
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14:33 IhrFussel Guys this line just crashed my server..it must be a bug or how can it be nil on_joinplayer() ? protv[joinn] = minetest.get_player_informat​ion(joinn).protocol_version
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15:52 tenplus1 hi folks
15:52 Bobr2 hey tenplus1
15:52 tenplus1 hi bob
15:52 Sokomine laptops...guess i'll have to buy a new used one soon. the old one's noisy cooler goes on my nerves. and it's too slow and small for..most things by now. any recommendations? how will mt run on a thinkpad x200 or similar?
15:52 tenplus1 hi soko
15:52 Sokomine hi ten, hi bobr2
15:52 Bobr2 hello Sokomine
15:52 Bobr2 how is everyone doing today]
15:52 tenplus1 not bad thx, you ?
15:52 Bobr2 im alright thanks :)
15:53 tenplus1 I had an idea just now... lemmie know if it sounds ok or stupid
15:53 tenplus1 player:set_hp(damage, "reason text") -- reason text shows what caused damage, a simple string for things like fire, lava, mob etc.
15:54 tenplus1 also:   minetest.register_on_player​_hpchange(function(player, hp_change, reason)
15:54 Bobr2 doesnt sound stupid
15:54 Bobr2 shows the reason why players got damaged correct
15:54 tenplus1 gives modders the opportunity to add special functions based on what caused damage, also awards and death messages that work
15:54 Sokomine Calinou: i see no point in 3840x2160 resolution. granted, finer resolution may make text more reasonable, but...something like 1200x1000 ought to be enough in many cases
15:55 Bobr2 tenplus1 sounds good
15:55 Calinou Sokomine: once you see text in hiDPI, you will think loDPI text looks far worse :P
15:55 Sokomine tenplus1: that would be very fine. i'm not aware of the current state of damage and cause of death. it annoys me to get purely random death messages on some servers
15:55 tenplus1 hi Cal
15:55 Calinou hi
15:55 Bobr2 hi Calinou
15:55 Calinou building Godot for Windows using MinGW, to see if it works and performs well
15:55 Calinou (GCC 7.1.0, latest)
15:56 Calinou both 32-bit and 64-bit seem to be building fine so far
15:56 Bobr2 Sokomine yeah and itll come out usefull with AMHI as well since it will help with players complaints
15:56 Sokomine Calinou: could be. but as long as i don't get accustomed to higher resolution i can live with the "normal" one. that also has the advantage to require less cpu power, less noise, less energy, ...
15:57 Sokomine Bobr2: amhi? what's that?
15:57 * tenplus1 thinks standard HD is large enough for most things :D
15:57 tenplus1 amhi = user and server
15:57 Sokomine ah. the amhi server?
15:57 Bobr2 Sokomine its my server :)
15:57 Bobr2 hosted by DI3hard139
15:57 IhrFussel On my server at least you can see in the chat if a player killed you...but to calculate that message there is some hack required
15:58 Sokomine aah. fine :-) havn't been there for a while. currently making ihrfussels server insecure :)
15:58 Calinou Sokomine: true, but modern games have a lot of small details, and 1080p doesn't pay a lot of respect to them
15:58 tenplus1 hi fussel
15:58 Calinou they look quite better in 1440p already
15:58 Bobr2 yeah i know about u not being there in a while
15:58 IhrFussel Hello there tenplus1 :) I really hope they fix the collision bug soon, it breaks my server quite a bit
15:59 Bobr2 where do i know that name from...
15:59 Sokomine Calinou: mt is by far the most visually demanding game i play. so that's not too much of a problem :-) but i don't want a too..bad...keyboard. newer laptops seem to offer choice between worse, horrible, catastrophic, unbearable...as far as keyboards go
15:59 tenplus1 w00t!  <fingers crossed> it's causing havoc with entities glitching so much
15:59 Calinou Sokomine: I'm fine with this laptop keyboard, it has a small right Shift key (but full-sized arrow keys in exchange), but I never use that key in the first place
15:59 Calinou since it's 14", no numpad, though
16:00 * tenplus1 gives Calinou a usb keypad :P
16:00 * DI3HARD139 pokes his head in
16:00 tenplus1 hi DI3HARD139
16:00 DI3HARD139 Hello
16:00 Bobr2 tenplus1 hows xanadu going?
16:01 tenplus1 Xanadu is running fine, few updates lately but ok... just the entity issues everyone is having with them glitching inside walls
16:01 IhrFussel tenplus1, my players complain about losing their pets all the time...I'm tired of telling them to build 2-node wide walls...and double fences just look stupid!
16:01 DI3HARD139 You running /clearobjects? It removes mobs
16:01 Bobr2 Ihrfussel isnt that due to the /clearobjects quick command
16:01 tenplus1 fussel, yesterday I watched a chicken glitch inside a solid wall and die due to suffocation
16:02 red-001 lol
16:02 DI3HARD139 lol
16:02 tenplus1 the entity issue is a bad one, even soccer balls get kicked into solid nodes...  this is a serious issue that must be fixed
16:02 IhrFussel Bobr2, I didn't use /clearobjects for 5 months now
16:02 red-001 huh a werid thing that happens sometimes is the player glichting into a node
16:02 Bobr2 hmm
16:02 red-001 you have to use fast and being in a liquid helps
16:02 tenplus1 hi red, and yes... knockback showed this happening
16:02 IhrFussel I'm talking about animals running THROUGH solid nodes
16:02 DI3HARD139 Thats all I got. Im sure Im pissing the users on AMHI off as '/clearobjects quick' runs every hour
16:03 Bobr2 DI3HARD139 oh well life is life
16:03 DI3HARD139 indeed
16:03 tenplus1 why does '/clearobjects quick' run every hour ????
16:03 Bobr2 to stop lag
16:03 IhrFussel Is your machine that weak?
16:03 tenplus1 what entities gather that much to cause lag ???
16:03 Bobr2 i dont know
16:03 DI3HARD139 So I dont have to do it and so the "warning: xxx objects in xxx area. Forcing delete" error stops
16:04 tenplus1 do you have technic installed ?
16:04 DI3HARD139 Not on that server
16:04 Bobr2 no
16:04 tenplus1 do you have sign_lib and itemframes ?
16:04 Bobr2 AMHI doesnt even have a armour in inv gui
16:04 DI3HARD139 sign_lib
16:04 Bobr2 yyes we do have item frames
16:04 tenplus1 all of those contribute tot he xxx items in area as well
16:04 tenplus1 increase the limit to 99
16:05 tenplus1 and make sure item_entity_ttl is set to say 120 for 2 minutes before dropped items are removed
16:05 Sokomine IhrFussel: take a look at my cages on xanadu :-) but first make invisible glass visible to you. and even those cages proof to be not sufficiently secure sometimes :-)
16:05 Sokomine bunnys, chicken and baby mobs are escape specialists
16:05 Bobr2 may i suggest something about animals
16:05 Bobr2 what about maptools:fullclip
16:05 Bobr2 does that keep them in
16:05 tenplus1 that's the think sokomine, they are secure.. it's the entity issue that's causing mobs to move inside solid objects
16:06 IhrFussel I don't see how a fullclip node would be "more solid" than a dirt node
16:06 Bobr2 i just have a feeing
16:06 tenplus1 also tnt has an issue where it shoots dropped items and mobs into solid walls too
16:07 tenplus1 at least with my builtiin_item mod it free;'s the dropped items into a local space...
16:07 Sokomine tnt ought to be illegal on servers
16:07 IhrFussel The issue definitely started between Apr and May since my Apr server version did not have that problem
16:07 Bobr2 their own fault if they have it
16:07 tenplus1 it's disabled on xanadu, only lucky blocks has the tnt_burning node
16:07 * DI3HARD139 removes tnt and fire by default
16:07 Sokomine wonder how i can get burli to extend his pathfinding algorithm to support ladders :-)
16:08 * Sokomine nods to DI3HARD139
16:08 Sokomine in the lucky blocks arena it's ok. that's part of what happens there
16:08 DI3HARD139 Little tip. Don't WE in 500,000+ TNT and set them off. It takes FOREVER to complete destruction.
16:09 tenplus1 heh
16:09 Sokomine another reason not to have tnt
16:09 DI3HARD139 precisely
16:09 tenplus1 thankfuly it's disabled by default on servers now
16:10 Bobr2 thank god
16:12 benrob0329 Sokomine: mine cost me around $500
16:13 tenplus1 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5971
16:13 benrob0329 i5, fully Intel so works flawlessly with open source drivers
16:13 tenplus1 not exactly an issue, but an idea for later inclusion
16:13 Sokomine benrob0329: er, what did cost you that much? your laptop? ah
16:13 benrob0329 Yes
16:14 Sokomine i don't like the keyboards in most current laptops. the thinkpads are not the same anymore either :(
16:14 Bobr2 agree
16:17 tenplus1 they have kinda squished them together
16:17 benrob0329 Sokomine: https://youtu.be/MgDfpzQya14
16:22 Sokomine benrob0329: yes. that's a very intresting machine. wonder how it'll run mt
16:22 benrob0329 Sokomine: not my laptop, but it shows that the older thinkpads do still work
16:23 Sokomine they do. i have an even older one that still runs. it's just...too slow hardware by now. too low on ram. much older than that x200
16:29 red-001 huh logging version strings is pretty intersting
16:30 red-001 too bad that minetest doesn't send the name just the version
16:30 red-001 "1.1.7--Android"
16:34 sfan5 it does send the name via http
16:34 Bobr2 hi sfan5
16:34 tenplus1 hi sfan
16:41 red-001 it seems that '1.1.*--Android' is a pretty common version string
16:45 Bobr2 oh
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16:48 Krock hi tenplus1
16:48 Krock GOTCHA GAIN
16:48 * tenplus1 goes back in time and drinks coffee
16:48 tenplus1 hi Krock
16:48 tenplus1 :P
16:48 Krock ^^
16:49 Bobr2 well tower broke again :/
16:49 tenplus1 what happened bob ?
16:49 tenplus1 krock, you experiences the entity issues with them glitching into solid nodes ?
16:49 Bobr2 end kernal panic not syncin vfs unable to mount root fs on unkown block
16:50 Krock tenplus1, from what I've read this sound like they're soaked into the nodes, which can't be possible
16:50 tenplus1 it's possible alright... I watched a chicken glitch into a solid wall and suffoacte to death
16:50 Krock it's rather that the server misses to calculate the collisions properly and reset the positions
16:50 tenplus1 also soccer mod hitting ball ended up inside wall
16:51 tenplus1 tnt explosino blew items inside wall
16:51 tenplus1 it's happening and very annoying
16:51 Krock tnt is already known for a long time, as the items have a quite high speeed
16:52 Krock fixing this issue will most likely cause more frequent collision calls or in exchange, weird movement
16:52 tenplus1 isnt there any other way to stop this ?
16:52 tenplus1 soccer ball and mobs arent even moving that fast for it ti happen
16:52 tenplus1 and no lag
16:52 Krock but I haven't gone into this problem yet but it should definitely be solved in the core
16:53 Bobr2 one sec moving to main
16:55 Bobr2 and back
16:55 tenplus1 wb
16:56 Krock tenplus1, are there also items that are halfway glitched into nodes?
16:56 Bobr2 thank you
16:56 Krock I mean, other than completely inside or outside
16:56 Bobr2 may i post the specs of my tower in hear to see what u all think
16:56 tenplus1 yeah
16:56 Bobr2 HexChat: 2.10.2 ** OS: Linux 4.4.0-78-generic x86_64 ** Distro: Ubuntu "xenial" 16.04 ** CPU: 4 x AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 955 Processor (AuthenticAMD) @ 800MHz ** RAM: Physical: 3.9GiB, 74.0% free ** Disk: Total: 568.2GiB, 92.7% free ** VGA: NVIDIA Corporation DAudio Codec ** Sound: HDA-Intel - HDA ATI SB1: HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia ** Ethernet: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. CIe Gigabit Ethernet ** Uptime: 5m 16s **
16:56 tenplus1 it's as if the collisionbox checks are too slow to stop it happening
16:57 Krock f32 pos_max_d = BS*0.25; // Distance per iteration
16:57 red-001 Client: HexChat 2.12.4 • OS: ArchLinux • CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4430S CPU @ 2.70GHz (3.04GHz) • Memory: Physical: 7.6 GiB Total (871.7 MiB Free) Swap: 15.6 GiB Total (14.6 GiB Free) • Storage: 964.4 GB / 1.5 TB (520.0 GB Free) • VGA: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Caicos [Radeon HD 6450/7450/8450 / R5 230 OEM] @ Intel Corporation 4th Gen Core Processor DRAM Controller •
16:57 red-001 Uptime: 9h 55m 35s
16:57 Krock hmm.. that should be enough actually
16:57 Krock oh. let's post sysinto
16:57 Krock HexChat: 2.10.2 ** OS: Linux 4.8.0-54-generic x86_64 ** Distro: Ubuntu "xenial" 16.04 ** CPU: 4 x Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU    Q6700  @ 2.66GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 1.60GHz ** RAM: Physical: 3.9GiB, 66.9% free ** Disk: Total: 366.2GiB, 73.2% free ** VGA: NVIDIA Corporation G80GL [Quadro FX 4600] ** Sound: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel ** Ethernet: 645 NetXtreme BCM5754 Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express ** Uptime: 39m 13s **
16:57 Bobr2 i know about my ram
16:57 tenplus1 o.O
16:57 tenplus1 I'd have to type mine :DDDD
16:58 Krock no hexchat installed there?
16:58 Krock it's likely the first thing I installed after getting linux
16:58 tenplus1 am using Pidgin here
16:58 Krock ah
16:59 Krock Bobr2, nice specs but my kernel is newer :P
16:59 tenplus1 Pidgin: 2.12 ** Os: Linux 4.10.0-20-generic x86_64 ** Distro: Ubuntu 17.04, blah blah! yeah, net-top pc, slow
16:59 tenplus1 :P
17:00 Krock :⁽
17:00 Bobr2 :)
17:00 Bobr2 how old is my kernal
17:00 tenplus1 Intel Atom 1.8 dual-core HT, 4gb ddr2 memory, 120gb sandisk ssd sata-ii, nvidia ion v2 graphics
17:05 tenplus1 4.11 is available bob
17:05 Bobr2 for?
17:06 tenplus1 linux
17:06 Bobr2 Ah yeah i know only just rebuilt this computer yesterday
17:06 tenplus1 what distro you running ?
17:07 Bobr2 urm lol
17:08 Bobr2 ubuntu 16.04
17:09 Bobr2 lts
17:09 tenplus1 ahh that's kewl :) good distro
17:09 Bobr2 shall i update
17:09 tenplus1 nah, if you want stable and suported for up to 5 years then leave as it :D
17:09 tenplus1 if you NEED latest drivers and versions of everything then yes
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17:12 tenplus1 hi DS-minetest
17:12 DS-minetest hi tenplus1
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17:12 tenplus1 wb DI3HARD139
17:13 DS-minetest tenplus1: still coffee in your blood?
17:13 tenplus1 ehehe :P had one a few hours ago...  was good coffee tho
17:13 DI3HARD139 ty. Really need to fix that router
17:13 DI3HARD139 hm......
17:13 * DI3HARD139 heads to ebay with a few ideas
17:14 Bobr2 lol
17:14 * tenplus1 orders an Oscar the grouch toy to build new pc inside
17:15 DI3HARD139 clever idea. Mine was to build a router with Intel AC nics and a quad gigabit network card. I think 4GB ram should do nicely
17:15 Bobr2 router is internet correct
17:16 DI3HARD139 Router: A devices that routes traffic to/from multiple devices
17:16 DI3HARD139 Basically it takes a network connection and splits it
17:16 Bobr2 i can suggest something
17:16 DI3HARD139 as well as manages it
17:16 DI3HARD139 ?
17:16 Bobr2 use virgin media XD or someother
17:17 VaultyTowers duuude that new clash royal update is liiiiiiiiittt
17:17 DI3HARD139 eeeeew no
17:17 tenplus1 ?
17:17 DI3HARD139 Comcast is Fiber-Coax
17:17 VaultyTowers 2v2 you get chests, crowns and you dont lose trophies
17:17 DI3HARD139 Fiber back, Coax drop
17:17 VaultyTowers nahnahnah guys
17:17 VaultyTowers Google Fiber
17:17 DI3HARD139 Meh. I could top that. Try 2Gbps/2Gbps
17:18 DI3HARD139 If I wanted to anyways
17:18 VaultyTowers dude id love that
17:18 VaultyTowers oh wait I get 1gigps
17:18 DI3HARD139 :P
17:18 VaultyTowers and im TWC XD
17:18 DI3HARD139 speaking of. I wonder how much it is now
17:18 * tenplus1 gets 75mb/s
17:18 VaultyTowers sorry Spectrum
17:18 Bobr2 DI3 can u help me with some stuff on AMHI later please maybe if u have time
17:18 * DI3HARD139 gets the same as tenplus 1
17:18 VaultyTowers they never changed the IP domain name
17:19 tenplus1 86mb/s when using linux :PPPPPPPPP
17:19 DI3HARD139 I wont be back on till tomorrow
17:19 Bobr2 ok
17:19 * DI3HARD139 gets 93/15
17:19 VaultyTowers for me it depends what ethernet port I have is
17:19 VaultyTowers my tower gets 100 laptop gets a gig
17:19 DI3HARD139 ew
17:19 tenplus1 I always seem to get better networking speeds with linux...
17:19 Krock tenplus1, does the glitching through also happen with 1-node large objects?
17:19 VaultyTowers but thats on ethernet
17:19 Bobr2 alright afk restart of vomputer
17:20 tenplus1 never tried it with things like that krock
17:20 VaultyTowers tenplus1, yes it has to deal with drivers and crap
17:20 tenplus1 most of the world is single node blocks and that's the issue
17:20 Krock tenplus1, so only small items are a problem?
17:20 VaultyTowers we all know windows is a piece of shit (except Win10) when it comes to drivers
17:20 tenplus1 might line a room with refrigerators and check
17:21 tenplus1 (except win10 where w10 itself is a piece of shit)
17:21 Krock VaultyTowers, so far I got all drivers running for my machines on win XP
17:21 VaultyTowers exactly XD
17:21 VaultyTowers Krock good luck getting working ethernet drivers for my inspiron I tried it
17:21 Krock had to get almost all from the internet but they worked
17:21 VaultyTowers failed
17:21 VaultyTowers says needs last disk in set
17:22 VaultyTowers course im downloading straight from Dell website and porting over partitions BUT you get what you pay for
17:22 Krock alternative download or set up a ramdisk in the requested location then throw in again the whole setup program
17:22 tenplus1 I detest how big windows driver files are... I mean c'mon... 218mb for a damn wifi driver ????
17:22 VaultyTowers XD
17:22 VaultyTowers ikr
17:22 tenplus1 or 600mb for nvidia driver
17:22 VaultyTowers lol I love how people still zip png files XD
17:22 Krock tenplus1, when you strip out all useless fancy additional applications they usually get down to 20MiB
17:22 Krock if not less
17:23 VaultyTowers or even 7z or .rar
17:23 tenplus1 I'd hope so... but damn... a huge download just for that
17:23 VaultyTowers tenplus1, which processor
17:23 Krock LZMA2 is actually able to compress PNGs, if they weren't passed through OptiPNG
17:23 Krock but well, 99% ratio isn't good at all
17:23 VaultyTowers btw I swear to christ if DI3HARD139 gets a Titan X I will kms
17:23 tenplus1 vaulty ? my processor ?
17:23 VaultyTowers tenplus1, yes the nvidia
17:24 tenplus1 x86
17:24 DI3HARD139 I might next year when my taxes come in XD
17:24 Krock I believe he means the graphics processor name
17:24 VaultyTowers lol you know what I found?
17:24 DI3HARD139 ?
17:24 VaultyTowers I found a ATI Radeon Pro x800
17:24 VaultyTowers those things are worth big money
17:24 tenplus1 I personally have an nvidia ion.2 gfx...
17:24 DI3HARD139 meh
17:24 tenplus1 but the driver isnt that huge for linux thankfully
17:24 VaultyTowers ive seen em go for 60-400
17:24 DI3HARD139 lmao
17:25 DI3HARD139 They aren't even worth that
17:25 VaultyTowers and they are from 2002!
17:25 VaultyTowers DI3HARD139, apparently they were the best back then XD
17:25 VaultyTowers or so ive read
17:25 RobbieF Hi Shara
17:25 DI3HARD139 Yeah for about a year or so. Till nvidia caught up and started slaughtering them every year following
17:25 VaultyTowers but rn im running a Radeon Cedar
17:25 VaultyTowers XD
17:26 VaultyTowers I still have a NVidia 2 gpu XD
17:26 VaultyTowers Geforce 2*
17:26 Krock heh, get a Riva TNT
17:26 VaultyTowers Client: HexChat 2.12.0 • OS: Ubuntu "yakkety" 16.10 • CPU: Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU          420  @ 1.60GHz (1.60GHz) • Memory: Physical: 3.1 GiB Total (2.8 GiB Free) Swap: 3.2 GiB Total (3.1 GiB Free) • Storage: 110.5 GB / 196.9 GB (86.4 GB Free) • VGA: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Cedar [Radeon HD 7350/8350 / R5 220] @ Intel Corporation 82G33/G31/P35/P31 Express DRAM Controller • Uptime
17:26 VaultyTowers : 2d 6h 3m 16s
17:26 VaultyTowers mmm I love working with cedar the wood
17:26 VaultyTowers smells so good
17:26 tenplus1 radeon drivers (open source) for latest ubu 17.04 are a lot better :D
17:26 * DI3HARD139 can get free cell phone service with unlimited data from verizon for $45+tax+fees
17:27 VaultyTowers lol
17:27 DI3HARD139 The $45+T/F is for the data
17:27 VaultyTowers lol I still got mifi's in the barn
17:27 VaultyTowers or basement
17:27 VaultyTowers whichever
17:27 DI3HARD139 eeeew
17:27 VaultyTowers XDDD
17:27 VaultyTowers 2009 eat your heart out XDDD
17:27 tenplus1 that's pretty good for unlimited data
17:28 VaultyTowers lol di3s gotta go use alot of Kodi streaming at work XD
17:28 DI3HARD139 The best part is the throttling only goes to 1.5Mbps/768Mbps instead of 64Kbps/64Kbps after 20GB
17:28 DI3HARD139 768Kbps*
17:29 * VaultyTowers needs to purchase an HDMI-> VGA
17:30 DI3HARD139 Brah... Get with the times. What you need is a Scart cable!
17:30 Jordach PogChamp
17:30 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/T2vnMEC.png
17:31 Shara Hi all
17:31 tenplus1 hi shara
17:31 Bobr2 hi
17:31 * Shara pokes RobbieF a few times
17:31 tenplus1 msot tv's have vga
17:31 DI3HARD139 Oh wow lol. Did you notice the pe*** size app before it was removed? (I take the time to scroll through 1by1 when Im bored)
17:33 DI3HARD139 I see that a few IPs are trying to get to my network via telnet and ssh :P
17:33 DI3HARD139 #GoodLuck
17:33 Bobr2 easy
17:33 Bobr2 and im in XS
17:33 Bobr2 XD
17:33 DI3HARD139 doubt it
17:34 DI3HARD139 I'm watching the logs
17:34 Bobr2 im in with ssh]
17:34 Bobr2 im in with ssh
17:34 DI3HARD139 NNnnnnnnope. Just signed in to verify. Not seeing anything
17:34 Raven262 Hello everyone
17:34 Bobr2 u dont see me logged in?
17:34 DI3HARD139 Not on my home network
17:35 DI3HARD139 Hello Raven262
17:35 tenplus1 hi raven
17:35 Bobr2 ah ok also Plebs said to do what he was doing to my server i need sudoers level which i understand if no
17:36 DI3HARD139 Gotta learn a bit more :)
17:36 Bobr2 i can tail the logs XD
17:36 tenplus1 dammit, my chicken just escaped again through solid walls
17:36 tenplus1 Krock: trying fridges dude
17:36 Bobr2 ten plus one where u testing it
17:36 DI3HARD139 lol. Have you tried collision boxes if irrlicht supports them?
17:38 Krock tenplus1, working on a patch
17:39 Bobr2 urgh
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17:39 Bobr2 how does a item in a server just go missing out of no where
17:40 tenplus1 hi srifqi
17:40 tenplus1 Krock: soccer ball and dropped items have no stepheight whereas mobs have a default of 1.1 set
17:40 tenplus1 if that helps
17:40 DI3HARD139 Im off to bed. cya l8r
17:40 tenplus1 dya DI3HARD139
17:40 tenplus1 *cya
17:40 Bobr2 cya DI3
17:40 shivajiva o/
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17:43 Krock tenplus1, https://pastebin.com/AREdETG3 compiling rn to test
17:44 srifqi hi tenplus1 !
17:44 benrob0329 Nooooo the Ben Heck Show is getting renamed :-(
17:45 tenplus1 thanks Krock
17:45 tenplus1 so far single node TALL nodes like fridge dont seem to have glitch... could it be that stepheight glitches them inside nodes even when it's a solid wall ?
17:46 Bobr2 maybe
17:46 Krock ...you have fridge mobs?!
17:48 tenplus1 ehehe, using homedecors 2node high fridge to wall in chickens to see if it can glitch through
17:50 Bobr2 lol
17:50 garywhite the Ben Heck Show? What the heck is that?
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17:51 tenplus1 hi nrz
17:51 nerzhul hi
17:51 Bobr2 which chickens we talking about mobs?
17:51 tenplus1 yeah, testing mobs as entities and soccerball for player controlled entity
17:51 tenplus1 different one's to test with
17:52 Bobr2 i have mobs:chicken on AMHI
17:55 Sokomine tenplus1: teach the mobs to play soccer with players :-)
17:55 * Sokomine hides
17:55 tenplus1 heh
17:55 Bobr2 they cant get out of fullclip
17:56 benrob0329 garywhite: sort of a tech/build show based around projects
17:56 benrob0329 Sponsored by element14
17:57 garywhite oh
18:07 Dargod Hi all
18:07 tenplus1 hi Dar
18:07 Shara Hi Dargod
18:07 tenplus1 krock: strangely the fridges seem to work... might have to add specific 2-high nodes for animal pens
18:08 Dargod How I can remove player inventory info with sqlite player backend?
18:12 Dargod I know about /clearinv command, but I can use it only if player loggined
18:13 Dargod Before I can just edit player files, but after migration to sqlite I can't
18:21 Krock tenplus1, #5973 should do it for mobs. TNT is another theme
18:21 Krock s/theme/topic/
18:22 tenplus1 thanks krock :) hope this gets in and it works a-ok :DDDDDD
18:23 Krock me too.. on both points
18:26 Krock https://i.imgur.com/8Gq6Ih3.jpg
18:27 Bobr2 hmm
18:29 tenplus1 ehehehe, oldie but a goodie
18:31 Bobr2 whats a bind host
18:34 benrob0329 *cough* a real physics engine *cough*
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18:34 tenplus1 that'd be handy :D
18:34 Bobr2 hmm
18:36 benrob0329 I don't understand what it is with open source engines and rolling custom physics
18:36 benrob0329 Even Godot does it
18:48 tenplus1 physics is nice but cpu intensive
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18:51 benrob0329 tenplus1: you don't always check for change
18:51 benrob0329 Only if an object is "woken up"
18:52 benrob0329 Outside of that, you can skip computations for the asleep objects
18:54 cx384 bye
18:56 tenplus1 true true
18:57 benrob0329 And some calculations could be omitted by the server
18:57 benrob0329 Such as movement smoothing
18:59 tenplus1 does server handle all entity movement and sent to client to draw ?
18:59 benrob0329 Currently I believe so
19:00 tenplus1 and hopefullly only those viewable to player
19:00 garywhite hi 11
19:00 tenplus1 hi gary
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19:46 Fixer !tell Krock JPEG
19:46 ShadowBot Fixer: O.K.
19:47 Fixer Make a moooooooooooooooove
19:47 * tenplus1 wiggles
19:50 * Fixer pokes VanessaE
19:52 Fixer time is runnniiiiing ouuut
19:53 tenplus1 ehe... nite folks :D
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20:04 * benrob0329 heats up some mac and cheese
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20:06 paramat Shara shivajiva and any other server admin please consider https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5974 "Allow a server to disable all (non-essential) client-provided clientmod functions"
20:07 paramat wow tenplus1 left early
20:09 red-001 I'm starting to see your point
20:09 paramat we have some unvoiced users, shall we ban Grandolf? we might unban on minetest channel sometime but until then we should at least be consistent across channels
20:09 red-001 I say we add a single setting that forces clients to use all server provided media
20:10 red-001 so sounds, textures and client mods
20:10 Shara Hi paramat
20:10 paramat sorry i'm being annoying recently
20:10 Shara You are certainly not annoying to me. :)
20:11 Shara Very glad you are looking at these CSM issues
20:11 red-001 I thinking I might have to reimplement mod security for the client
20:11 paramat :] i've been a bit hard on the CSM devs
20:11 Shara As for bans... I'm not sure who banned him on #minetest or for what reason now
20:11 red-001 s/I/I'm
20:12 red-001 Shara, sfan5
20:12 Shara Then maybe we should find out what sfan5 thinks of it.
20:12 red-001 for spamming about ##minetest-project
20:13 red-001 oh btw it seems that sofar might have some time for minetest soon
20:13 Shara I previously told Grandolf I'd defend his right to be here if he showed he was making a contribution but... then I got accused of something. Haven't really followed things after that too closely.
20:13 rubenwardy sweet, red-001
20:14 Fixer weeks
20:14 Fixer or more
20:14 Shara Fixer?
20:14 red-001 eh when I unignored Grandolf I just got accused of trying to get him k-lined
20:14 Fixer sofar is busy atm
20:14 sfan5 i think bans don't need to be done across channels since he only broke the rules in #minetest
20:14 sfan5 however i don't think the ban in #minetest should be lifted yet
20:14 red-001 well a few weeks is soon
20:17 Shara sfan5: I also don't think they should always be across all channels.
20:18 Fixer erm
20:18 paramat when c55 closed down MT-project grandolf was upset and started a new MT-project channel and invited users to it
20:18 Fixer i have RED hand when in creative mode, is this legit?
20:18 paramat hehe
20:18 red-001 countdown till someone makes a joke about communionism
20:18 red-001 60
20:18 Shara Just no.
20:19 red-001 3600
20:19 red-001 well I suppose whenever Raven returns
20:20 red-001 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZskjLq040I
20:22 paramat i'm happy it's just a case of busyness for sofar, was a little concerned
20:22 Fixer github image upload breaked for me
20:22 Fixer Something went really wrong, and we can’t process that file.
20:30 lisac hey anyone got any idea how to set up the inventory hud element?
20:31 lisac this https://pastebin.com/SgAMLZhZ segfaults in InventoryList::getSize() const ()
20:32 lisac red-001, RED FIST OF COMMUNISM
20:35 red-001 well that was 818
20:39 lisac red-001, I managed to fix my code
20:39 lisac but now I've got an even worse problem
20:40 lisac some graphical bugs on the HUDs
20:40 lisac and guess what? There's an issue about it
20:40 lisac https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/3970
20:40 rubenwardy yup :)
20:41 rubenwardy so many bugs that Indy won't be here anytime soon
20:44 lisac hey rubenwardy, thanks for your modding book! I'm reading the inventories part right now lol
20:44 rubenwardy yw :)
20:45 rubenwardy haven't updated in sooo long though
20:45 lisac yeah, and the HUDs section could use some more examples
21:07 Sokomine hmm. snow is an obstacle for mobs...maybe i ought to change it so that snow on the ground can be walked through
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21:19 nerzhul the hud API has some problems, like the representation of the HUD clientside and server side which is based on a vector instead of a map... :(
21:21 Lord_Buckethead huh I'm starting to like this nick
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22:07 srifqi After cross-compiling to Windows, when I run the app, I get Entry Point Not Found error.
22:07 srifqi Any idea why?
22:12 srifqi I only get that error after placing libvorbisfile-3.dll to bin/.
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22:44 lisac Lord_Buckethead, Your nick is not red enough
22:44 lisac Good night, everyone
22:45 octacian Jordach: Do you have a good cactus model?
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