Time Nick Message 00:02 Fixer gn 02:07 benrob0329 hello 03:49 octacian What's with not being able to revoke privileges like interact from singleplayer!? 04:01 benrob0329 octacian: its called a stupid decition no one wants to change 04:02 benrob0329 because "you could screw up your singleplayer account" 04:02 benrob0329 and "if your using privs for anything other than admining your wrong" 04:42 Zeno` huh? 04:42 Zeno` you can revoke privs from singleplayer 04:51 benrob0329 try it 04:54 Zeno` oh, interact specifically 04:54 Zeno` and shout 04:54 Zeno` yeah that's right. But other privs you can revoke (like fly) 04:55 benrob0329 But that doesn't always work 04:55 benrob0329 And for eg you can revoke your own privs if your the server admin 04:55 benrob0329 *cant 06:14 red-001 (offtopic) https://qntm.org/files/hatetris/hatetris.html 07:45 tenplus1 hi folks 07:49 shivajiva morning tenplus1 07:49 tenplus1 hi shiva :P 08:34 tenplus1 hi nrz 09:03 tenplus1 hi lumidify 09:04 lumidify Hi tenplus1 10:05 tenplus1 hi fixer 10:06 Fixer hi 10:27 Calinou hi 10:28 tenplus1 hi Cal 10:32 Calinou hmm, GitHub just added https://github.com/marketplace 10:33 Calinou it's in the top bar when logged in 10:34 nerzhul they need to make money as it seems :) 10:34 nerzhul i don't like to have free apps which require to order 0$, maybe at a point they need more 10:39 tenplus1 hi Zeno 10:39 Shara Hello all 10:39 tenplus1 hi shara 10:50 Fixer very hip 11:49 tenplus1 hi Jordach 11:49 Jordach meow 11:52 Jordach hai Fuchs 11:53 Jordach steam has all these wonderful games i have 0 interest in 11:54 * Jordach goes back to playing MMOs 11:54 tenplus1 hi Vanessa 11:58 VanessaE [off[ heh 12:41 tenplus1 bbl 12:49 Dargod Hi VanessaE :/ 12:49 VanessaE hi 13:11 Dargod I think I must put my bouncer here 13:24 Zeno` oh come ON 13:24 Zeno` this is going too far 13:25 Zeno` this is a targeted campaign 13:26 Zeno` celeron55, do something to mitigate it at least. Get rid of #minetest-project 13:26 VanessaE he's afk 13:26 VanessaE also you know what? fuck using 'off 13:26 VanessaE ... [off] 13:28 Zeno` and tbh I don't care 13:28 Zeno` I want it logged 13:28 nerzhul Zeno`, please find memleaks instead of complaining haha 13:29 Zeno` at least two of those email addresses are NOT public knowledge 13:29 Zeno` I'm sick of his campaign of terror and FUD 13:30 Zeno` I've basically stayed out of it until the last few days, but I want it stopped 13:30 VanessaE as do I, Zeno` 13:31 VanessaE I'm sick of this shit 13:31 VanessaE "The Minetest core devs have escalated things yet again. 13:31 VanessaE After the next step, they'll be out of options. They'll be playing in my ballpark." 13:31 Zeno` He publicly threatened me in another channel today, so I can't wait to see what becomes of that 13:32 Zeno` VE, op me :P 13:32 Zeno` or I'll disclose your real name 13:32 * CWz uses apples to keep Zeno` at bay 13:33 Zeno` no no no. not apples! 13:33 Zeno` btw, does everyone know that CWz's real name is ChaosWormz? 13:33 VanessaE (as if I give a shit about you saying my real name ;) ) 13:33 * CWz flinches like an apple 13:34 CWz Zeno's true name is, Jack andabeenstalk 13:34 Zeno` so you should, ChaosWormz 13:35 Zeno` ok, that's going too far 13:35 CWz My real name is Hugh Mungus 13:35 CWz eh nah 13:36 CWz I am too young to a Hugh 13:41 Zeno` you know that he leaked his next dox right? 13:41 Zeno` he's doxxing me this time: https://pastebin.com/qR5fhKvA 13:41 Zeno` it is illegal 13:41 VanessaE it IS illegal 13:42 VanessaE but is it illegal if the personal details were already published? i.e. minetest credits 13:43 Zeno` I don't think my love of ABBA is in the minetest credits 13:43 Zeno` I could add it I suppose 13:49 Zeno` #5800 13:49 Zeno` oops 13:49 Zeno` https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/5800 13:50 Amaz xD 13:51 VanessaE haha 13:54 nerzhul review done Zeno` no 13:55 VanessaE nerzhul: wat? what's wrong with ABBA? :) 13:55 Shara Seems like a totally valid PR to me :) 13:57 Zeno` yeah it's a good PR! 13:58 VanessaE :+1: 14:13 benrob0329 Hello all 14:16 VanessaE hey ben. 14:17 benrob0329 what's up VanessaE? 14:17 VanessaE nada 14:18 VanessaE just more of the usual 14:20 benrob0329 UNHOLY SHIT 14:20 benrob0329 https://fossbytes.com/microsoft-open-source-company-windows-office-free/ 14:21 Jordach WHAT THE FUCK 14:21 Jordach wait 14:21 Jordach April 1, 2017 14:21 Jordach nice meme 14:21 benrob0329 Oh 14:21 benrob0329 Just saw that 14:21 benrob0329 Heh 14:21 VanessaE hah! 14:21 benrob0329 Son of a... 14:21 benrob0329 Microsofy 14:23 DS-minetest the maker of this image wasn't strong enough to take away that stripe in the middle. nobody can ever be so strong 14:26 nerzhul i'm pretty sure sofart is Zeno` 14:26 nerzhul or maybe kilbith 14:28 paramat i doubt it's either https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/5800#issuecomment-303109473 14:28 paramat ^ sofar 14:29 Shara Whoever it is, it was made back in January, so not specifically for this 14:30 paramat joined Jan 26 14:30 Zeno` umm I am not sofart 14:31 paramat yeah it's not like you to do that 14:31 VanessaE wtf 14:31 VanessaE that IS sofar's pic though.....photoshopped 14:31 nerzhul Zeno`, maybe just fart and no so 14:32 VanessaE dollars to donuts oldcoder did that 14:34 Shara Whoever did it was quick to jump in there, so was actively watching here or -dev 14:34 Jordach whos the matrix user then as Guest226147[m] 14:34 Shara What I've been wondering 14:35 VanessaE let's find out :P 14:36 CWz Ugh why did VanessaE soccerball them 14:36 VanessaE whoever it is has been in here under that nick long enough for their join or nick change to have left my scrollback 14:36 VanessaE (which goes back almost 2 months) 14:38 VanessaE whoever it is, they're welcome to re-join once they're no longer idle :P 14:39 Shara I have that that's what they joined as in my log 14:39 VanessaE odd. 14:40 Shara Hmm 14:40 Shara Wayward_One: can you also please confirm if wayward1 is also you? 14:44 benrob0329 I get a feeling its not... 14:44 benrob0329 Also that Guest account was someone who wasn't logged in 14:45 benrob0329 Nope nvm, its him 14:45 Shara ? 14:45 benrob0329 he's in the Minetest matrix room under that name 14:46 benrob0329 Watward1 14:46 benrob0329 *wayward1 14:46 Shara Would still be nice to get confirmation from him directly. 14:46 benrob0329 Yes, but no need to kick him 14:47 VanessaE benrob0329: it was just a temp kick to wake him up :) 14:48 benrob0329 As for the guest...who knows 15:20 nerzhul red-001, your commits on the interface are painful in terms of translations heh 15:20 Zeno` fuck this [off] 15:20 nerzhul you added many things to translate before release, hurry up guys go to weblate to help us translate before release, 200 frenchs strings to review (i did 80) 15:21 Zeno` oldcoder, email me 15:21 VanessaE dollars to donuts, he'd have emailed you anyway, Zeno` :P 15:21 VanessaE supposedly he is watching the chat through some bot in here, so [off] is useless anyway 15:21 Zeno` I really hope he does email me 15:22 sfan5 why don't you email him 15:22 VanessaE legally he shouldn't. 15:22 VanessaE if anyone initiates contact it has to be oldcoder 15:23 Calinou nerzhul: thanks for the reminder, I'll check 15:23 VanessaE otherwise OC could try to pin Zeno for harassment or something 15:23 nerzhul VanessaE, wrong, spammers sent me mails i don't contact them :) 15:24 VanessaE nerzhul: well idk how it works where you are, or where Zeno is, but here anyway, it would matter 15:26 red-001 well halt/whatever_thier_other_nick_is isn't here 15:27 VanessaE granolf or something like that 15:27 red-001 yeah 15:27 red-001 they are the same person afaik 15:27 VanessaE Grandolf* 15:28 VanessaE probably so, and one of the two is constantly fucking up his nickserv login on inchra also :P 15:28 red-001 not sure what this guy's issue with me is 15:28 red-001 maybe I was too good at calling him out on his BS 15:28 nerzhul red-001, i just think he doesn't like your color 15:28 red-001 I don't like my colour even 15:29 red-001 I prefer blue 15:29 red-001 not sure why I pick this one 15:29 nerzhul blue-001 15:30 blue-001 huh thats nicer 15:30 VanessaE besides, shouldn't it have been red-100 anyway? :) 15:30 blue-001 but hexchat still highlights me with red 15:30 VanessaE (or green-010 :) ) 15:30 blue-001 VanessaE, lol 15:30 VanessaE actually on my screen, now you're a dark purple :) 15:31 Shara Looks lilac here 15:31 blue-001 I didn't think I would see a joke about colour encoding 15:31 benrob0329 Light purple 15:31 Calinou red-001 is red-magenta-ish here, and blue-001 is blue-lavender 15:31 Calinou I am always black, benrob0329 is a slightly dark red, VanessaE is a purple a bit less blue than blue-001, nerzhul is bright green 15:31 Calinou (a /me is always intense blue) 15:31 VanessaE on my screen, you're green, Calinou 15:32 Calinou :) 15:32 VanessaE benrob0329: is red 15:32 Calinou I use Quassel with nick colors enabled, and default theme 15:32 blue-001 werid I can't find a way to change my colour in hexchat 15:32 VanessaE blue-001 was red before, now he's purple 15:32 VanessaE ^^^ who is this? 15:32 Jordach new person, who dis 15:32 Shara Other me. 15:32 blue-001 dunno 15:32 VanessaE ok 15:32 Calinou smurfing, now on IRC ;) 15:33 Shara Checking what colour my name would be from my own client :) 15:33 Calinou heh, you got a 2nd NickServ account 15:33 VanessaE one of these days I need to come up with a unique, descriptive nick 15:33 Shara Since own name is always blue, I can't tell 15:33 Calinou (I think freenode allows this, as long as you don't use it to evade bans, I guess) 15:33 Calinou eg. for your bot 15:33 VanessaE you're dark green, Shara. "Taya" is... um... well you have to say something first :P 15:33 Shara It's because I was known by that name on another project, and switching names has proved very hard 15:33 Taya Something 15:33 blue-001 I once ban evaded by using my real ip, that was one confusing afternoon 15:33 Calinou VanessaE: how about xXMeseMinerXx? 15:34 VanessaE dim yellow, almost light brown 15:34 Calinou :P 15:34 VanessaE Calinou: um, no 15:34 blue-001 (got k-lined for switching my nick too much) 15:34 Calinou heh, I got banned from #httpd because my bouncer kept timing out, but I was eventually unbanned 15:35 nerzhul in my hexchat everybody is blue except quoting me green :p 15:35 Shara Shara is a sort of mint green, and Taya yellow-green for me 15:35 blue-001 yeah I was trying to convince freenode ops to un-kline me, then I had to get my bnc provider to unblock my account 15:36 benrob0329 Calinou and VanessaE are a light blue 15:36 benrob0329 blue-001: is a light purple 15:36 benrob0329 nerzhul: is a dark red 15:37 benrob0329 Shara is a light green, and Tay 15:37 benrob0329 Taya was a dark purple 15:37 VanessaE mmmh 15:41 Fixer sofart is systemd hater? 15:41 blue-001 with the* 15:43 * Jordach is thinking 15:44 blue-001 alright reported 15:58 Jordach also contains RBA's missing logs 15:58 Jordach i bundled the tool with it as it's useless without it 15:59 * Jordach is beginning to suspect another mental illness right about now 16:04 Jordach ding 16:04 blue-001 ty 16:08 * Shara suddenly realises just how many TPS servers there now are 16:09 Shara Hmm, ten servers now 16:09 Shara No wonder I go slightly mad any time I try to admin there. 16:12 Calinou back 16:12 Calinou https://www.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/6cmjeg/your_opinions_on_the_future_of_ubuntu_as_a/dhvrx0y/ 16:12 Calinou the truth has been told :) 16:12 Fixer Calinou: IPO and death of ubuntu 16:17 benrob0329 Calinou: ubuntu is crusty stable 16:17 Calinou Debian exists in three flavours: rusty, stale and broken 16:17 benrob0329 lol 16:18 benrob0329 Ubuntu exists in one flavor, rusty with loose bolts 16:18 blue-001 I hope they add the much need Debian Mouldy soon 16:18 benrob0329 lol 16:18 blue-001 truly an oversight that there is no such option 16:18 Fixer is this actually possible? https://i.imgur.com/aLrhouR.png 16:19 benrob0329 Arch comes in one flavor as well: high maintenance 16:19 benrob0329 Fixer: as a glasses wearer, you'd need a very fat head 16:20 blue-001 benrob0329, I though it was PTSD triggerd by the words "sudo pacman -Syu" 16:20 Fixer benrob0329: in fairness, he probably is only fat in his entire country 16:20 benrob0329 blue-001: omw 16:21 benrob0329 Fixer: lol 16:22 Fixer he is probably the only fat person in entire country* 16:22 Fixer much better wording 16:23 Fixer https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DASiMQrW0AEqdah.jpg:large 16:24 benrob0329 WTF 16:25 benrob0329 Gentoo has 2 flavors, fresh and potentially broken af 16:25 Fixer relevant from cybereveryword: CYBERBATTLING 16:26 garywhite What the heck is that Fixer? 16:26 Fixer garywhite: what exactly? 16:26 garywhite That picture posted 3 mins ago 16:27 Fixer garywhite: statue of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Lenin via FaceApp retrieved from twitter 16:29 garywhite o...k... 16:30 Fixer amazing https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C_pacHoXoAACP9L.jpg:large 16:31 Calinou now make Doomguy with this 16:33 Fixer https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C_mtxKOUAAAIBfH.jpg:large 16:33 Fixer close enough 16:34 Fixer Calinou: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C-US0G9XcAI65HR.jpg 16:41 Fixer Calinou: happy? 16:41 Fixer Calinou: don't see any confirmation... 16:42 Calinou lol 16:42 Calinou I was away, but nice 16:42 Calinou and weird :P 16:44 VanessaE G*d in heaven please give me a break from this weather. 88% humidity, 21C feels like almost 26 :( my ass is gonna have moss and/or mushrooms growing off of it by morning 16:44 VanessaE 16:45 Fixer #4 is my favourite 16:48 Calinou https://dev.etlegacy.com/issues/1036 16:48 Calinou I was… TRIGGERED 16:48 Calinou :/ 16:48 Calinou seriously, I can't stand people like these 16:48 Calinou (see Spyhawk's answer) 16:48 Calinou which is plain BS, because there are AAA games today (Overwatch, GTA V) shipping with undersampling 16:50 Fixer Calinou: i've discovered undersampling just recently, and I'm playing since 199X 16:53 VanessaE Fixer: what message, the one I just wrote about humidity? heh 16:57 Sokomine VanessaE: you're half the world away...but we had that weather some days ago. dressed, walked around a short time - had to change. it was that bad one day 16:57 VanessaE it's been like this for a week now 16:57 VanessaE reaching real temps in the 27C range, which for us is hot as hell 16:58 Sokomine hm, 27 degree would be warm but perhaps still bearable. we have nice 23 degree right now (evening, sunny day) 16:59 VanessaE 27C + 80 percent humidity is ... not :P 16:59 VanessaE we should move to arizona.. 30C is common there, but it's a dry heat. :) 16:59 VanessaE (then again, so's my oven, I wouldn't sit /there/ ) 17:00 Sokomine that is definitely not nice. it's usually relatively pleasant weather in hot summer here. indoors below the roof is not so nice and we tend to complain if it gets too hot, but usually the humidity is about right. it just wasn't a few days ago. very...hard to bear weather 17:00 Sokomine :-) 17:00 Sokomine too bad we aren't all like sam. he can even swim in lava with the right armor 17:02 Sokomine (repeat from -dev, regarding mines): http://www.picpaste.com/pics/screenshot_20170522_180115-ckt0hnaZ.1495469537.png does not look well. that is what is to be avoided when having tunnels on the surface 17:02 Sokomine (repeat from dev) tunnels i'm satisfied with: http://www.picpaste.com/tunnel1-XxwTPA9Q.jpg http://www.picpaste.com/pics/tunnel2-FZfU8HcL.1495469757.jpg full tunnel network: http://www.picpaste.com/pics/tunnel3-Ec7aSuJn.1495469782.jpg or another nice tunnel: http://www.picpaste.com/pics/tunnel4-VjdBIg8b.1495469817.jpg 17:02 Sokomine (just regarding mines generated by mods) 17:05 VanessaE that's a lot of tunnels.. 17:06 Calinou Fixer: undersampling was not really needed until 3-4 years ago 17:06 Calinou hiDPI was hardly a thing back then 17:06 Calinou but now, nobody saw it coming and lots of games lack it :( 17:06 Calinou (typical game developer, I guess) 17:06 Calinou the same happened for widescreen :) 17:08 Fixer Calinou: i simply do not see hipdi around, only 1366*768, good luck even finding 1920*1080 with reasonable specs <1000 usd 17:08 Fixer 1366*768 = shit 17:09 Calinou it's only getting more common 17:09 VanessaE even my monitors are probably considered "high" DPI (even though they aren't), just because of resolution 17:09 VanessaE (1600x1200, ~52cm diagonal) 17:09 Calinou yeah, usually 4K is always considered hiDPI because it basically can never be used without scaling 17:09 Calinou even on 32" 17:10 * benrob0329 has a FHD laptop :PP 17:11 Calinou 1440p desktop, 2160p laptop here 17:11 Calinou so my desktop monitor is worse :P 17:11 Calinou both resolution and DPI 17:11 benrob0329 Heh 17:11 Calinou 32" 1440p has an use, it can be used without scaling 17:11 Calinou but still, it's not pleasant in old games without HUD scaling 17:11 benrob0329 I'm planning on getting an ultrawide eventually 17:11 Calinou the chat is lost in the top-left corner of most (if not all) id Tech 3-based games 17:12 Calinou GoldSrc games have a HUD so tiny it's not even funny 17:12 VanessaE I stopped using the undersampling in MT, turns out not to be useful when not using real fullscreen 17:12 Calinou 21:9 is nice but I don't get the appeal much 17:12 VanessaE (because it still soft-scales the window up) 17:12 Calinou large 16:9 displays (> 28") are better IMO 17:12 Calinou you don't get black bars in videos, and old-ish games can manage it 17:12 Calinou (many games lock the horizontal FOV to 110 and don't compensate it for widescreen; in this case, you are fine with 16:9 or 16:10, not with 21:9) 17:12 VanessaE 5:4 or 4:3 or gtfo :) 17:13 benrob0329 Calinou: you get more screen space without needing the vertical hight 17:13 VanessaE wide screen monitors are blasphemous :P 17:13 Calinou well, there is an use to vertical height 17:13 Calinou with 32", 16:9 is all you need really 17:13 Calinou 16:10 would be worse because it wouldn't really "fit" your vision 17:13 benrob0329 VanessaE: try video editing or 3D modeling on a 4:3 screen 17:13 VanessaE been there, done that many times 17:14 VanessaE I have a whole library of self-made models :) 17:14 VanessaE BUT, I have three 1600x1200 panels 17:14 VanessaE so it's not like I'm starved for screen space :) 17:14 benrob0329 busted! 17:14 Sokomine VanessaE: good resolution. hard to get a monitor with 1200 height instead of 1080 or so 17:14 VanessaE Sokomine: Dell 2001FP, bought used on Ebay for like $80 USD or so. 17:15 Sokomine tunnels are important :-) there need to be even more :-) 17:15 VanessaE benrob0329: busted, nuthin' :) 17:15 Sokomine (and then we'll find bones of other players there who got lost in the tunnels...) 17:15 Krock was prepared to greet 10+1 but NO, HE'S NOT HERE 17:15 benrob0329 I like the extra space thank you very much :-) 17:15 Krock o/ benrob0329, VanessaE, Sokomine 17:15 VanessaE gretz, Krock 17:15 benrob0329 Hi Krock 17:15 VanessaE [05-22 08:41] bbl 17:15 VanessaE [05-22 08:42] * tenplus1 (~john@cpc95350-uddi26-2-0-cust73.20-3.cable.virginm.net) has left #minetest-hub 17:15 VanessaE (that's about 4 1/2 hours ago) 17:16 benrob0329 A 4:3 monitor would be a huge pain for my workflow 17:16 * Sokomine secretly picks up one of vanessaes screens and runs away with it :-) 17:16 VanessaE Abe has two more. can you tell we pounce on a good deal when we see it? :) 17:17 Sokomine obviously :-) 17:17 VanessaE they're not the best tech out there though 17:17 Sokomine might not matter much 17:17 VanessaE they have LCD persistence issues 17:18 VanessaE probably because they're active-matrix TFT 17:18 Sokomine i don't think they're that diffrent. i'm satisified with mine because it has a sesnor for brightness and gets darker when it gets darker which is quite practical. also has a very solid foot/mounting 17:19 benrob0329 I should buy a bigger monitor.. 17:19 Krock 14:09 Sokomine what is abba? 17:20 Krock You're kidding, right? 17:20 benrob0329 The one I have now is nice, but its a bit far away with my new desk and it doesn't have the size for me to turn up the dpi 17:22 Sokomine krock: er, no? 17:23 Krock https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92cwKCU8Z5c 17:23 Sokomine hm, what does the video show? 17:23 benrob0329 A Rick Roll :-P (jk) 17:24 Krock !title 17:24 ShadowBot Krock: Error: That URL appears to have no HTML title within the first 4KB. 17:24 Krock "Abba - The Winner Takes It All", a music cideo 17:24 Krock *video 17:25 Krock I can play the melody and some sentences in my head without clicking this one 17:25 Krock a very known band from the 80s 17:25 blue-001 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6120QOlsfU 17:25 Krock blue-001, that's not a band. 17:25 Krock this is better: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNr6Yi_D4HE 17:26 blue-001 was expecting rick rolling 17:26 blue-001 was disapointed 17:26 Krock you'll get it when you don't expect rick 17:27 rubenwardy lol 17:28 rubenwardy doesn't that picture of me look good? 17:28 blue-001 brb having an epileptic seizure 17:28 Calinou Never gonna mine you up 17:28 Calinou Never gonna test you down 17:29 VanessaE never gonna mese around 17:29 Sokomine ah. i remember having heared about such a band. i just don't care about music 17:29 VanessaE or deh-sert you 17:30 Krock never gonna make you grief 17:30 * benrob0329 join blue-001 17:30 Krock never gonna say f*** you, never gonna tell an admin or ban you 17:30 Sokomine krock: ok. important sentence regarding mt :-) nobody wants griefers after all (though that might have been usage in the original sense) 17:31 benrob0329 Top kek: https://youtu.be/Gc2u6AFImn8 17:31 Krock hehe. 17:31 Krock benrob0329, already know that. It's a good one 17:32 Krock sadly a bit short 17:32 benrob0329 Krock: its funny that it actually works though 17:32 Krock benrob0329, there's also a Darude Astley song 17:33 benrob0329 Ah yes, now for the classic: https://youtu.be/ZZ5LpwO-An4 17:33 paramat i like the tunnel network screenshot. however, rather busy at the moment, maybe after release i can think more about mine mods 17:34 blue-001 oh neat sofart got removed by github support 17:34 blue-001 the account Fixer whos comment fixer pasted 17:34 blue-001 whoes* 17:35 blue-001 whose* 17:35 Krock hmm? what was the comment about? 17:36 blue-001 Krock, just a normal comment but the users avatar was sofars picture photoshoped to have a hitler mustash and a ss hat 17:36 blue-001 mustache* 17:36 blue-001 reported them for nazi symbolism 17:37 paramat good 17:37 Sokomine paramat: no need to hurry. it's been lying around on my disk (and in an older version on github) for quite a while now. there are many other mods that add similar tunnels (minus the shafts) that do not bother about connecting to the surface 17:37 Jordach 乇乂ㄒ尺卂 ㄒ卄丨匚匚 17:37 blue-001 oh lol the image is still on github servers 17:38 Sokomine blue-001: ah. good that it got removed then 17:38 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/hEFWCh0.jpg 17:38 Sokomine Jordach: hi. and what does that mean? :-) 17:38 paramat Sokomine does your mod run in 'on generate' or spread by ABM outwards from the shaft? 17:39 Jordach http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/232/046/190.gif 17:39 Sokomine paramat: on generate. but the placement of the mines (where shall the main shaft be?) is currently hardcoded 17:40 paramat ahh 17:40 Sokomine the rest (depth, placement of tunnels) is random and in part depends on the terrain. all works through voxelmanip 17:41 Sokomine Jordach: the kitten is nice. the other picture is of no intrest 17:42 paramat yeah this will be a challenge, it has to be generated in 'on generated' and predefined per mapchunk somehow 17:43 blue-001 my bad it's an luftwaffe officer cap 17:47 Sokomine paramat: my attempts in that direction wheren't too successful yet. i don't like underground structures that are not connected to anything else. and connecting them at the surface is tricky and not always convincing 18:19 Shara Grandolf and halt_: any particular reason you are joining this channel, and yet never ask for voice? 18:20 Krock hint: They can't answer you in this channel 18:20 Shara They can PM 18:20 Krock indeed 18:20 Shara Or speak to me on one of many other channels I'm in which they are always joining (and also never contributing in) 18:20 blue-001 they joined all the minetest related chanels on freenode 18:21 blue-001 I guess it's some sort of logger 18:21 shivajiva given the current situation I see no reason to entertain loggers 18:21 blue-001 with a human in/on the loop 18:22 Shara Most of their comments elsewhere have been pretty suspiscious, so if they neither message me, nor anyone protests in the next while, I'll kick them. 18:22 Shara They can always PM at another time. 18:22 blue-001 they seem very much like a basic logger that pretends to be a user 18:22 shivajiva they are welcome to read the logs the same way as everyone else :) 18:23 benrob0329 Grandolf: has spoken with me in the past 18:24 shivajiva I've spoken to both Grandolf and halt_ previously 18:24 Shara Me too 18:24 Shara "Most of their comments elsewhere have been pretty suspiscious" 18:24 Shara (yay quoting my own typos :) ) 18:24 shivajiva LOL 18:24 paramat i've seen occasional messages from grandolf and halt on -project, talking to OC (not that that is necessarily a bad thing) 18:24 benrob0329 Meh, seemed pretty normal to me 18:25 benrob0329 Grandolf is doing the knockback pr, no? 18:25 benrob0329 Or was that someone else with a wizard name 18:25 Shara That was Dumbeldor I think 18:26 blue-001 gandalf iirc 18:26 rubenwardy both were players on my CTF server 18:26 celeron55 just quit talking about OC, it's such a massive waste of time 18:26 Dumbeldor Knockback ? It's me yeah 18:26 celeron55 anything anyone says only fuels him 18:27 blue-001 Dumbeldor, lol sorry I confused you with the other famous wizard 18:27 Dumbeldor xD 18:29 Dumbeldor You wanted to aske me ? 18:29 Dumbeldor ask * 18:33 shivajiva I think benrob wasn't certain which wizard had done the knockback pr :) 18:33 garywhite Wait, why is Grandolf & halt_ both on my channel? 18:35 Dumbeldor Haha shivajiva, garywhite this is the channel of wizard :o 18:35 shivajiva they are everywhere when you look garywhite 18:35 Shara I've also messaged them elsewhere, in a channel where they can reply withotu PMing, and no response. 18:35 Shara without* 18:36 garywhite Yeah, but look at his channel list. What do they all have in common? 18:36 garywhite I'm in all of those channels 18:37 Shara You probably only see the ones you're also in. 18:37 blue-001 ^ 18:37 blue-001 thats how freenode work 18:37 shivajiva ^ 18:38 blue-001 I used to be in basicly all the public minetest channels at one point and they where everywhere 18:39 blue-001 they in this case can be seen as both singular and plural 18:40 Shara Oh well. 18:41 shivajiva any response? 18:41 Shara Grandolf / halt_: Feel free to PM one of the ops here about rejoining, but this is a channel for those who take part in discussion in some way. You are welcome to read the logs any time. 18:41 Shara None. 18:45 blue-001 thats my alt bnc 18:45 blue-001 in case elite bnc goes down 18:46 rubenwardy O_o 18:46 rubenwardy does that happen? 18:46 rubenwardy +often 18:46 blue-001 happened a few times when there was a nasty netsplit 18:47 Calinou when my VPS provider has an outage, I basically have no IRC 18:47 Calinou I don't even have a backup client at hand 18:47 blue-001 or when they got ddos'ed 18:48 rubenwardy I should probably install a bouncer on my VPS 18:48 rubenwardy I like the idea of rubenwardy@rubenwardy.com 18:48 blue-001 it's pretty rare but every so often they either lose connection or get attacked 18:49 Calinou rubenwardy: be a hipster, hello@rubenwardy.com 18:49 Calinou :D 18:49 Calinou I love those hipster sites with their hello@ emails 18:49 Calinou because "contact" is so 2006 18:49 rubenwardy lol 18:49 rubenwardy need to setup email too 18:50 Calinou I use Gandi's email here 18:50 Calinou not self-hosted 18:51 Calinou less banning for spam going on, easier 18:51 garywhite Shara: Look 18:51 Shara Got a PM now :) 18:53 CWz senses a spy 18:59 blue-001 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bi5pOo_Z2GM 19:16 blue-001 honestly this isn't horriblie important 19:17 Shara Nope, not even slightly. 19:17 blue-001 might as well 19:19 paramat well halt has not done anything wrong 19:19 blue-001 I mean could some explain why they have the same ident? 19:19 Shara They claim to be brothers. 19:21 benrob0329 brb i need to update stuff 19:26 ircSparky I could get a holdof Grandolf/halt_ if you need 19:26 Shara I'm talking to Grandolf currently. 19:26 ircSparky ah, ok 19:26 ircSparky nvm 19:29 ircSparky Also I can vouch that they are two seperate people, unless one person is able to talk over themself on mumble 19:30 lisac [off] Grandolf / halt are regular(s) on OC irc server so this isn't unexpected 19:39 VanessaE /me gets a whiff of lavender or lilac through the open window (I can never remember which is which). oh that smells nice 19:43 benrob0329 back 19:43 nore hi benrob0329 :) 19:44 garywhite :) 19:46 benrob0329 all nice and updated (as far as rusty old debian goes) 19:47 VanessaE nonono it's not debian rusty. it's debian stale, old, and broken :) 19:47 benrob0329 heh, i could run somehting else on my pi 19:47 VanessaE no wait, that's not right 19:47 VanessaE stale, broken... what was the third one? 19:47 benrob0329 rusty, stale, and broken :-) 19:47 VanessaE heh 19:51 paramat hm 'sofart' joined 26 Jan, a day after this PR by 'motherfscker' was rejected (rightly) by sofar due to author name http://irc.minetest.net/minetest-dev/2017-01-25#i_4795636 19:55 blue-001 paramat, you have an old copy of his user page or something? 19:56 VanessaE heh, note the picture for 'motherfscker' 19:56 paramat so that's my guess. no the date sofart joined is in IRC logs, i put it in a message luckily 19:57 paramat had an urge to look at IRC logs around that time .. tadaa! :] 19:58 blue-001 Joined GitHub on January 26, 2017 19:58 * blue-001 has a screenshot and a local copy of the html 19:59 garywhite Apparently, everyone's convinced that Grandolf & halt_ are OC's spies 20:03 VanessaE why don't we just remove the loggingbot? 20:03 VanessaE half of this channel's chat is [off] anyway :P 20:04 benrob0329 technically we all have [off] logs anyways 20:05 VanessaE exactly. 20:05 VanessaE quit 20:05 VanessaE hm, doesn't work like that. 20:05 VanessaE sfan5: ^^^ 20:06 sfan5 it's not useful not to have the loggingbot_ here 20:07 VanessaE ok fair enough 20:10 benrob0329 i want a script that automatically puts [off] on my messages after i run say... /off 20:12 blue-001 test 20:12 blue-001 test 20:13 benrob0329 what client? 20:13 benrob0329 aw 20:14 blue-001 for anyone using hexchat "msg %c [off] &2" 20:15 benrob0329 Ill need to write a script 20:16 benrob0329 How hard could it be, riiiiight? 20:44 * CWz wonder if playername begining with . could be an issue 20:46 benrob0329 can we all agree that chat on top of sky is really hard to read? 20:47 Shara Never had an issue 20:47 Shara (sorry) 20:47 garywhite I wonder if it would be possible to adapt chat color so that it's dark in the light so it's easier to read when you're in a lit area, & lighter color when you're in a darker area 20:47 Shara Isn't there an option to change the background colour for the chat background area? 20:47 garywhite But I've never really had an issue that was because of something in the game (screen brightness or glare from the window, yes, but not in-game issue) 20:48 Shara Or well, how see-through or not it is 20:50 benrob0329 a drop shadow does wonders :-) 20:51 Shara I think it would look wrong to have other than when you have chat open to use though 20:53 benrob0329 perhaps a setting? 20:54 benrob0329 it doesnt have to (and shouldnt) be a solid black 21:00 VanessaE in the old days we would just XOR the text against the background 21:00 VanessaE but that won't work here I guess 21:00 Calinou can't we follow the lesson from memes? 21:01 VanessaE ? 21:01 Calinou "white text on dark outline is readable on any background" 21:01 Calinou ;) 21:01 VanessaE heh 21:01 nore VanessaE: xoring is not very good if the background is 0x80, for instance I'd say 21:01 Calinou I think doing that is alrightn, but at low sizes it looks bad 21:01 Calinou it is viable mostly at higher sizes only 21:01 nore ^ yes 21:01 VanessaE nore: well, I suppose not. :) 21:02 nore Well white text on slightly darkened background is quite readable 21:03 nore But many people won't like a semitransparent overlay 21:09 Shara I wouldn't like it for the chat area I see when just walking around playing 21:09 Shara On the other hand, if it was an option, no loss 21:10 benrob0329 im not saying an overlay 21:10 benrob0329 hold on 21:10 * benrob0329 makes example image 21:14 benrob0329 http://imgur.com/a/2ZJk8 21:15 Calinou blurred drop shadows are expensive computationally 21:15 Calinou it makes redrawing the font at a higher resolution much longer 21:15 Calinou and your font library needs to support it 21:15 benrob0329 then have static drop shadows 21:16 benrob0329 aka semi transparent bits per charecter 21:16 benrob0329 possibly in font 21:16 benrob0329 (idk how hard that is) 21:18 benrob0329 MT uses freetype, right? 21:23 VanessaE MT already supports drop shadows anyway 21:23 VanessaE font_shadow = 2 21:23 VanessaE font_shadow_alpha = 255 21:24 benrob0329 can we have a setting for just chat? 21:24 * VanessaE shrugs 21:24 VanessaE oh wait, I do that too much apparently :P 21:24 Calinou it affects all the text 21:24 Calinou Minetest uses the same font everywhere 21:24 Calinou :( 21:46 VanessaE ... 21:46 VanessaE oops 21:52 VanessaE :( 21:52 sfan5 wut 22:07 garywhite rubenwardy can you please verify that you're active? 22:07 garywhite he's not here 22:07 garywhite oh wait, yeah he is 22:11 benrob0329 much [off] 22:12 VanessaE many hidden 22:12 VanessaE wow. 22:12 blue-001 lol 22:13 benrob0329 that was perfect :P 22:13 VanessaE :D 22:14 blue-001 hi rubenwardy 22:14 VanessaE greetings, ruq 22:14 VanessaE rubenwardy: * 22:15 * VanessaE flips the "q" over and tries tab-complete again ;) 22:15 benrob0329 lol 22:15 VanessaE you see? THIS is my purpose here. wisecracks and trolling ;) 22:16 Shara :) 22:23 Sokomine :-) 22:24 blue-001 :-) 22:26 cheapie =^.^= (or something) 22:26 twoelk seems some trools are worth feeding 22:26 twoelk -o+l 22:27 * Shara offers VanessaE cookies then hides 22:28 VanessaE yummerz ;) 22:29 * cheapie grabs one of the cookies 22:29 * Shara is saving the doughnuts! 22:30 VanessaE HEY! 22:30 VanessaE you come back here with those! 22:30 VanessaE :) 22:30 Shara Apparently my server now has government buildings including an office for the National Doughnut Eaters party. 22:30 Shara I love my players :) 22:31 VanessaE haha 22:31 * Shara sighs and offers up a single doughnut 22:32 VanessaE what's this crap? 22:32 VanessaE one lousy plain cake donut? 22:32 Shara Hey! It has icing! 22:32 Shara But if you don't want it... 22:32 * Sokomine puts a deliscious cake on the channel 22:33 * VanessaE rummages through the box... look at this... creme filled...jelly....glazed... sprinkles.... you even have an éclair in here 22:33 garywhite Eh 22:33 Shara Nooo... not the éclair! 22:33 Sokomine ah, hm, you ought to offer something...better...than doghnuts. they don't taste that well. there's better stuff :-) 22:33 * garywhite goes out to Safeway & buys a dozen donuts for $5 22:33 * Shara always giggles at the german name for them in fact 22:33 garywhite There, now everyone has donuts 22:34 * nore gets hungry 22:34 Sokomine do we have a name for them? i think they're imported form the usa and mostly named donuts as well 22:34 * cheapie digs through one of the boxes and pulls out a random glazed donut 22:36 Shara Sokomine: I really hope I'm spelling it right, but Krapfen? 22:36 * Sokomine has placed a cake made out of lots of powder sugar mixed with the white of the egg, layered with butter cream (with more powder sugar) and topped with er whipped cream (?) with thin pieces of chocolate on top. hard to get more calories into one cake! 22:36 Sokomine shara: ah. no, that's not the same thing 22:37 Shara It's what they called most of what I call doughnuts though 22:37 Sokomine they have some similarities, but krapfen do not have a hole in the middle 22:37 Shara doughnuts here don't require a hole 22:37 Sokomine they might indeed be related, now that you mention it...but they're usually only eaten at silvester 22:38 Shara We had them often enough, but that was in Austria, not Germany 22:38 garywhite What, you guys don't like the donuts I brought? Fine, here's some Krispy Kremes instead 22:38 Sokomine oh? i thought doughnuts always came with a hole 22:38 Shara Nope :) 22:38 Sokomine what's krispy kremes? 22:38 Sokomine ah :-) good to know 22:39 Sokomine there are plenty of more deliscious cakes than doghnuts imho. lots of cakes and other stuff from the bakery :-) *mjam* *getting hungry* 22:40 Sokomine last week i had a piece of frankfuhrter kranz. also high-calory, with butter cream and krokant 22:40 garywhite krispy kreme is a chain of drive-thru donut shops in the US that are usually VERY sweet 22:41 Sokomine ah, ok. much in the usa is very sweet. even the...er..the things hamburgers are put in 22:41 Sokomine hm. frankfurter kranz is the same in english... 22:42 * benrob0329 leaves a bucket of homemade ice cream on the table 22:43 * Sokomine thanks benrob0329 and takes a big sphere of the ice cream 23:31 Fixer "Law enforcement officials reportedly say at least 20 dead and many injured following an incident at Manchester Arena"