Time Nick Message 00:32 benrob0329 Hi octacian 00:33 octacian hey benrob0329 00:39 octacian 4th mod of the week :D https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=17640 01:53 kaeza hm? 01:54 kaeza oh 01:54 kaeza rm -fr signs_lib 01:54 kaeza problem solved 02:28 benrob0329 kaeza: -fr? i always use -rf 05:57 benrob0329 (offtopic) http://i.imgur.com/godEpi8.jpg 06:38 benrob0329 With Filmic Blender: http://i.imgur.com/vw6eAek.jpg 06:43 Raven262 Is that supposed to be the inside of a Tardis, benrob0329? 07:26 tenplus1 hi folks 07:26 CWz ello 07:26 tenplus1 hi CWz 07:26 Raven262 Hello tenplus1 07:26 tenplus1 hi raven 07:28 tenplus1 Question: Can client mods only be run from server when connected or can a client run their own mod locally ?? 07:29 nerzhul client mods runs for every server and are not linked to a particular server 07:29 nerzhul you install it on client, and then let's go bagy 07:29 tenplus1 so I can connect to a server and run my own mod locally while I'm playing on it ??? 07:31 tenplus1 also hi nrz :P 07:32 nerzhul like in world of warcraft, CSM mods are intended to improve client experience not regarding server (ATM) 07:33 tenplus1 am just thinking of ways it can exploit protected nodes and such 07:33 tenplus1 trying to figure what to add another layer of protection into 07:35 tenplus1 is override item available to csm ? 07:52 tenplus1 hi DS-minetest 07:54 DS-minetest hi :) 07:56 benrob0329 Raven262: yes 07:56 benrob0329 tenplus1: oh hi, I guess I'm up way too late again :P 07:56 tenplus1 lol, hi benrob 07:56 benrob0329 http://i.imgur.com/vw6eAek.jpg 07:57 tenplus1 le tardis 07:57 benrob0329 (Not a new project, just a fixed one) 07:57 nerzhul item overriding has no sense in CSM as it cannot modify server sent content, because it's... content :) and manage by server 07:58 tenplus1 *phew* just checking nrz 07:58 nerzhul but you can predict protected nodes if you read node meta client side and react on on_dig 07:58 nerzhul but it's a server side code to ensure it's right and not bypassed :p 07:58 tenplus1 yeah, am inserting added protection to protection mod so players cant mess with chests using csm 07:58 tenplus1 had someone insert formspec using csm and open a protected chest from someone else 08:02 tenplus1 Protector Redo updated (2.0) - has better chest protection from csm interference :P 08:03 nerzhul private meta support ? 08:03 tenplus1 nope, it still has to be compatible with 0.4.14 08:03 tenplus1 just some more player checks 08:03 tenplus1 am trying to keep my mods working with 0.4.14+ 08:05 nerzhul private meta is compatible with 0.4.14 if i remember the sfan5 implementation 08:05 nerzhul just it will have no effect until 0.4.16 is released and used by servers 08:08 tenplus1 if it was possible for minetest to update itself to newer versions then I would quite happily add all the new features and functions into mods, but until then I need to keep compatibility... still cant believe some servers are using 0.4.12 08:08 nerzhul not simple to handle :p 08:09 benrob0329 Not without a launcher anyways :P 08:09 tenplus1 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/5762 08:10 tenplus1 yeah, would be nice... even a message stating a new version is available would be handy 08:12 tenplus1 hi Krock 08:12 Krock hi tenplus1 08:26 Raven262 benrob0329, nice work on the tardis, though i think the real one has some a bit more detailed console? I'm not sure :P 08:27 tenplus1 the real one has had the tardis interior change so many times :))) would be hard to model them all 08:27 Raven262 The last one i liked the most actually :D 08:27 benrob0329 Raven262: yeah, still got most of the panels to fill in :P 08:51 Krock wat. http://i.imgur.com/1D0Ljel.png 08:52 tenplus1 hi lumidify 08:52 lumidify Hi tenplus1 08:55 Shara Good morning 08:55 Raven262 Hello Shara 08:57 tenplus1 hi shara 08:57 Shara Hi Raven, hi Ten :) 09:06 tenplus1 o.O updated xanadu to latest dev and it all broke... 09:19 sfan5 nerzhul: correct 09:20 tenplus1 hi sfan 09:26 Shara tenplus1: All broke? 09:29 tenplus1 creative was changed so the 'creative' priv I added would no longer work properly 09:29 tenplus1 updated my git creative 09:30 Shara Ahh, will have to remember that 09:45 tenplus1 hi paramat 10:18 tenplus1 wb Zeno 10:18 Zeno` thx :) 10:18 Zeno` got rid of BNC 10:18 Zeno` don't need it 10:19 tenplus1 bnc ? 10:45 tenplus1 wb cx384 10:46 red-001 tenplus1, Bounced Network Connection 10:47 shivajiva https://www.elitebnc.org/ 10:47 shivajiva Hiya everyone :) 10:47 tenplus1 hi shiva :P 10:48 tenplus1 for some weird reason I thought he meant this: https://d3i5bpxkxvwmz.cloudfront.net/cached/eeweb/images/thumbs/500/b394127b2e51f5f3954aa9346c1e10fb_bnc-1308268579.png 10:48 cx384 hi tenplus1 10:48 red-001 tenplus1, lol 10:49 shivajiva :) 10:55 Krock red-001, what does this mean? https://hastebin.com/amijusatij.txt 10:56 Krock tenplus1, high-quality BNC cables ;) 10:56 tenplus1 lol 10:56 red-001 Krock, a known issue 10:56 red-001 I have a pr that happens to also fix that 10:56 red-001 you can safely ignore it 10:58 Krock but then why don't I get any message from [PREVIEW]? 10:58 red-001 shoudln't cause that 10:58 Krock ah, core.after seems to be broken 10:58 tenplus1 for csm ? or everything ? 10:59 Krock only CSN 10:59 Krock s/N/M/ 10:59 tenplus1 *phew*... 10:59 Krock the only thing that actually produces an output are chat messages 11:00 Krock "print" seems to be blocked somehow 11:01 red-001 Krock, I bet it's related to the recent console-related change 11:01 red-001 I don't have the issue on linux 11:04 tenplus1 does building minetest use a lot of hdd space ? 11:05 red-001 not really 11:05 Krock 170 MiB for the objects here 11:05 tenplus1 trying to build a version with line_of_sight changes so I can test speed 11:05 Krock err 11:06 Krock wrong bin directory. It's 703 MiB 11:06 Krock plus 340 MiB for a more or less deep copy of the Minetest repo 11:06 tenplus1 hrmmmm 11:06 Krock dunno about linux 11:10 red-001 1.5 GB for me but that includes worlds, etc 11:11 red-001 892.3 MB when I exclude that 11:18 tenplus1 wb DS-minetest 11:18 Krock red-001, does Lua print("foobar") write anything into your logs? 11:18 Krock how about CSM, serverside? 11:20 red-001 no 11:20 red-001 lua print isn't logged because reasons 11:20 DS-minetest tenplus1: thanks :) 11:20 * red-001 honestly has no idea why 11:26 rubenwardy please may a moderator pin this topic? It should be an official topic to report infringing forks https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=16020 11:27 rubenwardy (VanessaE ^) 11:29 rubenwardy also, can you rename it to Android and ios 11:31 rubenwardy or remove that entirely 11:31 red-001 could you if possible copy/transfer the posts in https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=16707 to it? 11:32 rubenwardy yeah, that too^ 11:32 rubenwardy it should also be used to report noninfringing forks, to keep track of them 11:35 tenplus1 we just need a way to stop forks connecting to actual mt servers 11:36 rubenwardy not possible 11:36 rubenwardy :P 11:36 tenplus1 buuuuu 11:36 * Shara pokes tenplus1 11:36 tenplus1 hi shara 11:36 Shara It would even be bad 11:37 Shara I like my customised clients :P 11:37 tenplus1 lol... I dont mind proper clients playing the game, all features accounted for and no shady business and ads/ingame purchases 11:37 Shara Yea, but how do you judge what's proper? 11:38 Shara Then automate a check for that :P 11:38 Shara Though I actually think when the new release is out, I will finally be able to use official client without prblems :D 11:39 tenplus1 you talking 0.4.16 ? 11:39 Shara Or whatever version it will be called 11:40 Shara My console height option will be in this one. COuldn't play with the current :D 11:40 tenplus1 heh 11:41 Shara It'll be the first release with any of my code in too :) 11:41 tenplus1 kewl 11:45 tenplus1 hi fixer 11:46 Fixer hi 11:46 Shara Hi Fixer 11:53 shivajiva Hi Shara, Fixer, Zeno o/ 11:56 rubenwardy you just leaked your ip, Jordach 11:56 tenplus1 hi Jordach 11:56 rubenwardy need to set up a time out 11:56 rubenwardy :D 11:57 red-001 I see both Krock and Jordach are leaky 11:58 red-001 cloaks don't work that well 11:58 Fuchs they do work if you configure SASL, however, they were never meant to hide your IP and thus don't 11:59 Fuchs so these people's IPs were available before they "leaked" them 12:00 tenplus1 so long as the other end of the IP is protected then it shoudnt matter too much 12:00 red-001 Fuchs, it's just that a lot of people (ab)use cloaks to hide thier ips 12:00 Fuchs they don't. No matter how you use them. 12:00 Fixer so much nice commits recently 12:00 Fixer bugfixes 12:02 Shara Hi shivajiva :) 12:02 Shara (yes, I was slow) 12:08 Krock <|°_°|> 12:18 Jordach ayy lmao 12:18 Jordach game i used to binge frequently is having huge issues 12:18 tenplus1 which one 12:18 Jordach cant even be bothered 12:18 Fixer Jordach: bf1? 12:18 Jordach no 12:19 Jordach since they added EAC cheating got popular 12:19 Jordach topkek 12:19 tenplus1 lol 12:21 Fixer Jordach: what is EAC? 12:21 Jordach Easy Anti Cheat 12:21 Jordach literal spyware 12:22 tenplus1 everything will env up with spyware eventually... sad 12:23 Fixer Jordach: like punkbuster? 12:23 Fixer both are spyware 12:24 Jordach yeeeeboi 12:24 Jordach BF1 doesn't use PB anymore 12:30 Jordach *goes back to MMOs* 12:41 red-001 lol the guy that tried selling a minetest cheating client gave up and released his code 12:41 red-001 the git history is .... entertaining 12:43 tenplus1 hopefully it'll provide a way to block client cheating 12:43 Calinou they removed PunkBuster? 12:43 Calinou what did they put instead? 12:44 Calinou I remember BattlEye being popular among proprietary games 12:44 red-001 tenplus1, it's just entertaining 12:44 red-001 the code isn't useful 12:44 tenplus1 link me 12:45 tenplus1 hi nathan 12:46 red-001 he also leaked the name of his bitbucket repo but it's private 12:46 tenplus1 lol 12:46 red-001 tenplus1, you can find it on minehacker site 12:47 red-001 like I though the anti-death stuff was BS 12:47 NathanS21 hi tenplus1 12:50 Jordach Calinou, FairFight 12:50 Shara red-001: is minehacker still a thing? 12:50 red-001 Shara, not really 12:51 red-001 it wasn't really that big to start off 12:51 Shara I know. Spent some time poking through the code of it. 12:51 red-001 Shara, so when was a code released? 12:51 Shara It wasn't, as far as I know. 12:51 red-001 s/a/the 12:51 red-001 oh you bought it? 12:51 Shara I had someone who paid for it send it to me. 12:51 red-001 I see 12:51 red-001 waste of money 12:52 Shara Yea. Never would have myself. 12:52 red-001 the creator kinda scamed people 12:52 Shara I only looked at a few parts. Have seen more impressive things that people managed before. 12:53 red-001 like I thought what it does is make is seem like the hacks are good 12:53 red-001 e.g. doesn't stop the client when the server kills it's connection so the player can feel like they can't be kicked 12:54 Shara Kind of silly :) 13:17 Fixer ＣＹＢＥＲＲＥＣＩＤＩＶＩＳＴ 13:17 Fixer ＣＹＢＥＲＯＯＺＥ 13:33 Fixer Jordach: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C_962s7UAAAB2mP.jpg:large (meme overuse) 13:34 tenplus1 pft 13:46 Jordach Fixer, only downside is that if you're far left the centrist seems far right ;) 14:06 tenplus1 Simple Skins updated to work with latest 3d_armor mod 14:39 tenplus1 hi WhoAreYou 14:40 WhoAreYou Hello tenplus1. :) 14:42 tenplus1 https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/pull/1543 14:45 Krock tenplus1, belongs into #-dev 14:45 tenplus1 arent most of them here already :PPP 14:47 tenplus1 hi ka 14:47 tenplus1 hi kaeza 14:47 kaeza hi tenplus1 14:47 Krock o/ ka 14:47 kaeza o/ Kr 14:47 Krock \o\ o// \o\ 14:48 tenplus1 http://cdn.ebaumsworld.com/mediaFiles/picture/2183782/85360109.jpg 14:50 Krock I'm sure their taste is better 14:53 tenplus1 hi CWz 14:53 tenplus1 and yeah, I bet they do :D 14:54 * Krock tries to fight through the Linux distribution jungle to find the best looking one for newcomers 14:57 Calinou Krock: stop searching, it's still Ubuntu today 14:57 Calinou at least for computer illiterate people (and even then…) 14:57 Calinou for computer literates, you can pick a lot more distros, like Fedora, Manjaro… 14:57 tenplus1 lol 14:58 Fixer Xubuntu 14:58 tenplus1 Xubuntu 17.04 is very easy to install, use and upgrade 14:58 Calinou Xubuntu should do it for computer iliterates, yeah 14:58 Krock Manjaro and Mint are already on my first fav list 14:58 Calinou by Ubuntu, I included official derivatives as well 14:58 Calinou (except Lubuntu perhaps) 14:58 * tenplus1 uses Lubuntu... even easier 14:58 Calinou Lubuntu is nice, but it doesn't hold your hand much, I found 14:58 Krock where fav = "perhaps going to try" 14:59 Fixer Calinou: and what is manjaro? 14:59 Calinou https://manjaro.org/ 14:59 Calinou a fancy term for "easy-to-install and more stable Arch Linux" 14:59 Fixer Calinou: got it /// more stable? o_0 15:00 red-001 Calinou, so dry water? 15:02 Calinou Fixer: Manjaro is more "half-rolling" than a true rolling release 15:02 Calinou it has updates every 2 to 3 weeks on average 15:02 Calinou the packages are slightly more tested than in Arch 15:02 Calinou you can also pin your kernel to a LTS version 15:02 Fixer Calinou: nice 15:07 tenplus1 wb stormchaser3000 15:10 stormchaser3000 hi 15:20 Fixer https://i.imgur.com/KsVQyVq.png 15:20 Fixer if it is not trolling than what? 15:20 Fixer tha(e)n 15:21 tenplus1 o.O what did I just read 15:21 red-001 Fixer, you will never know 15:29 lisac hey cheapie, chat6 is awesome! :) 15:33 cheapie Heh, thanks. 15:34 Fixer more progress on my base https://i.imgur.com/3iySt76.jpg 15:35 lisac base, Fixer? 15:35 Fixer base, home, whatever 15:36 lisac I built something nice not so long ago 15:36 lisac I'll grab some screenshots :D 15:37 Fixer house itself was test of new vanilla blocks 15:38 lisac Oh :( So we aren't sharing nice buildings? 15:39 Fixer ? 15:39 VanessaE rubenwardy: stickied, and renamed 15:40 lisac http://imgur.com/a/Lj6C6 15:41 lisac :D 15:41 red-001 VanessaE, is transfering the other posts posible? 15:41 VanessaE depends what you mean 15:42 red-001 move posts in https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=16707 to the new topic 15:43 red-001 s/new/stickied 15:43 VanessaE I could perhaps do that 15:43 VanessaE gimme a few 15:51 Fixer lisac: very nice 15:51 lisac thanks :) 15:51 lisac it's on Craig's server. 15:52 VanessaE red-001: posts moved. actually I did it backward, but it still resulted in one topic, so it's all good. 15:59 red-001 ty 16:03 VanessaE np. 16:13 Fixer pokerface http://www.dedoimedo.com/images/computers-years/2016-2/manjaro-updates-downloading.jpg 16:14 VanessaE nore: there seems to be a problem with node breakers wielding dye. 16:14 VanessaE [05-20 12:12] 2017-05-20 13:48:26: ERROR[Main]: ServerError: AsyncErr: environment_Step: Runtime error from mod '' in callback environment_Step(): ...orld/worldmods/dreambuilder_modpack/unifieddyes/init.lua:212: attempt to call method 'get_look_vertical' 16:23 nore VanessaE: not surprising 16:23 nore wielders need to provide functions for the new APIs 16:23 nore Including that one 16:24 nore Are you able to do this? I'm in a plane right now, coding is a bot difficult :) 16:24 nore *bit 16:25 VanessaE I'm trying to take a coding break for a while 16:25 VanessaE (that recent mt_game pull request notwithstanding) 16:25 paramat wow impressed you can contact us from a plane 16:25 nore Hmmmm will try to do that then 16:26 nore paramat: we didn't take off yet :p 16:26 nore (haven't?) 16:26 paramat hehe 16:26 VanessaE haven't* 16:26 nore Hmm haven't taken actually 16:27 nore Anyway it's easier :) 16:27 nore Although, in at least one of the planes I was last time, there was this strange "internet access while flying" thing 16:28 nore Didn't know that was a thing 16:28 paramat i can see the demand for it 16:28 red-001 some planes even have a portable mobile base station 16:30 nore Well anyway, this is one of the times I'm happy to arrive to the airport early 16:31 nore My first flight was delayed enough so that I couldn't get my second flight 16:31 nore But they got me one of the last seats on the previous flight :) 16:33 nore Anyway, taking off soon, see you later 16:34 tenplus1 enjoy da flight :P 16:34 Fixer manjaro forum is so hip 16:36 tenplus1 easy to read... I like that :P 16:37 VanessaE nore: headed back to Frenchyland? :) 16:37 VanessaE (yeah, I'm not that imaginative :P ) 16:38 nore VanessaE: nope, taking part in the ACM-ICPC world finals :) 16:38 VanessaE cool 16:38 nore Anyway, they are asking to put devices in flight mode now 16:38 nore Bbl 17:13 tenplus1 hi LazyJ 17:13 LazyJ Howdy tenplus1 ;) 17:13 tenplus1 wb paramat 17:20 tenplus1 bbl 18:17 Wayward_One hi all 18:17 Krock hi Wayward_One 18:39 tenplus1 hi peeps 18:40 tenplus1 for those who like to play with mobs, here is every Minecraft mob as a pack for MObs Redo, curtesy of 22i: https://github.com/22i/amc/ 18:41 Fixer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfUWbgLdSgE 18:42 tenplus1 *click* 18:45 tenplus1 nice song fixer, thx :P 18:45 NathanS21 Is there a partial changelog anyplace for the 0.4.16 release yet? I looked around, but couldn't find anything. 18:45 NathanS21 I did find that I could compare the old release verse master on Git 18:46 NathanS21 and that gave me a pretty good listing of changes. 18:46 Krock NathanS21, .14 -> .15 isn't done either 18:46 NathanS21 okay then. :P 18:46 NathanS21 maybe I should eliminate the part in my video where I tell people to check out the changelog 18:46 NathanS21 :D 18:47 Krock https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=262214#p262214 18:47 Krock I hope this helps 18:47 NathanS21 ah, very nice. 18:47 NathanS21 will check through that. 18:48 NathanS21 I've been starting work on my release video 19:13 paramat best changelog is the list of commits on github, and is little different :] 19:14 * paramat dislikes 'meetings' 19:14 tenplus1 lol 19:17 NathanS21 I looked at the commits 19:17 NathanS21 planning on this being my best release video yet. 19:17 Calinou a commit log is not a changelog 19:17 * tenplus1 looks forward to seeing it :D 19:17 NathanS21 though I've only done two others, so I don't have to aim very high. :) 19:17 Calinou http://keepachangelog.com/en/0.3.0/ 19:17 Calinou read this, and come back 19:17 Calinou I wanted to make a changelog for 0.4.14 -> 0.4.15 but haven't done it to due to lack of time, and it's very late now 19:20 NathanS21 tenplus1, I recorded most of it today, but will be watching changes closely to see if anything I mentioned changes. 19:20 NathanS21 still need to record the bit on CSM 19:21 tenplus1 still havent tried csm 19:21 paramat yeah, but our changelogs have been almost identical to a list of commit messages, only a little clearer 19:21 NathanS21 I tried it on a server, didn't work, but it worked fine on a local game. 19:21 Calinou not really 19:21 Calinou changelogs contain user-facing changes, deprecations, etc 19:21 Calinou they do not contain "Fix typo", reverted changes, or code-only changes 19:22 Calinou this makes them much more usable for end users and even modders 19:22 Calinou seriously, please don't call a git commit log a changelog. it is everything but that 19:24 paramat i know it isn't. i'm saying our changelogs have, partly, been very similar to a list of commit message first lines 19:24 paramat the last one for engine was 19:24 paramat mtg was better 19:35 tenplus1 wb DS-minetest 19:36 DS-minetest thanks tenplus1 and hi 19:37 tenplus1 was hoping pull #1543 would get into 0.4.16 19:42 DS-minetest #1543 was merged, do you mean game#1543 ? 19:43 tenplus1 yes... creative priv :PPP 19:47 DS-minetest hm, where there ever problems with copying text from one minetest formspec field to another? 20:41 tenplus1 nite folks 20:42 kaeza DS-minetest, not that I know of 20:42 kaeza are you using Ctrl+C? 20:44 kaeza I ask because I tend to use Ctrl+Insert to copy and Shift+Insert to paste, and these combos don't work in Irrlicht text fields :/ 21:13 Calinou I always forget those shortcuts are a thing 21:13 Calinou (why do these exist by the way?) 21:14 Calinou only slightly less silly than Xorg's "middle mouse for paste" :D 21:14 Calinou (which uses a different clipboard sometimes, so it can be useful) 21:15 Fixer i'm using Ctrl+V to paste password into mt gui 21:15 Fixer works 21:15 Fixer from spec to spec - will check 21:16 DS-minetest middle mouse is extremely useful 21:17 Fixer especially in minetest 21:17 Fixer i broke my previous mouse wheel... because minetest 21:17 Fixer minetest should have a quick way to craft entire stack 21:18 DS-minetest middle mouse copying works in formspec?! 21:18 Fixer not shift + middle wheel 21:18 DS-minetest ah 21:18 Fixer DS-minetest: that was not answer to your question 21:18 DS-minetest but that above 21:19 Fixer DS-minetest: win7, latest engine, copy from chat to creative search field works 21:19 Fixer both ways 21:19 Fixer seems to work 21:19 DS-minetest ok 21:20 Fixer *carpets* 21:42 NathanS21 the best colo eh? 21:42 NathanS21 is that like cola? 21:42 NathanS21 :D 21:42 VanessaE nono 21:42 VanessaE colo, as in co-located 21:42 VanessaE :) 21:42 redisthebestcolo wait my can I see that part of my password? 21:42 redisthebestcolo why* 21:43 * VanessaE throws some Atomic "Perfect Yellow" PLA at redisthebestcolo 21:44 redisthebestcolo oh so you can copy and paste it just not see it? 21:44 VanessaE bleh, forget it red. the joke is dead now :P 21:45 redisthebestcolo yeah I guess 21:45 redisthebestcolo still hunter2 is the password no one would expect 21:45 redisthebestcolo so therefore it's the best password 21:45 VanessaE heh 21:45 VanessaE or correctbatteryhorsestaple 21:45 red-hunter-002 or that 21:46 VanessaE (or whatever the order was) 21:46 NathanS21 that is the better password 21:46 red-hunter-002 correcthorsestaplebattery 21:46 red-hunter-002 iirc 21:46 VanessaE correct horse battery staple 21:46 VanessaE (just checked) 21:46 red-hunter-002 wow I was right 21:46 VanessaE https://xkcd.com/936/ 21:46 red-hunter-002 nvm 21:47 red-hunter-002 the other way feel more right to say 21:47 red-hunter-002 as in it's the correct type of horse-staple battery 21:48 VanessaE look at the comic :) 21:48 red-hunter-002 horse-staple is just a name for a battery type 21:48 red-hunter-002 like lithuim-ion 21:49 Calinou "12345 is a bad password!" —Minecraft splash 21:49 red-hunter-002 honestly it wouldn't be a good password 21:49 VanessaE of course, no thanks to that comic, now no one can use the words horse, battery, correct, staple, trombone, or troubador. :P 21:49 red-hunter-002 it's only good for brute-force attacks 21:50 red-hunter-002 dictionary attack would destory that password 21:50 Calinou yeah 21:50 Calinou you can modify the words or create portmanteaus though 21:50 Fixer Calinou: they are even more lazier 21:50 Calinou change casing, add numbers or special characters… 21:50 Calinou use non-English words too 21:50 Fixer Calinou: someone had password: 1 21:51 Calinou apparently, portmanteaus is valid: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portmanteau 21:51 Calinou but it can also be written "portmanteaux"