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00:23 octacian joined #minetest-hub
00:32 benrob0329 Hi octacian
00:33 octacian hey benrob0329
00:39 octacian 4th mod of the week :D https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=9&t=17640
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01:53 kaeza hm?
01:54 kaeza oh
01:54 kaeza rm -fr signs_lib
01:54 kaeza problem solved
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02:28 benrob0329 kaeza: -fr? i always use -rf
05:57 benrob0329 (offtopic) http://i.imgur.com/godEpi8.jpg
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06:38 benrob0329 With Filmic Blender: http://i.imgur.com/vw6eAek.jpg
06:43 Raven262 Is that supposed to be the inside of a Tardis, benrob0329?
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07:26 tenplus1 hi folks
07:26 CWz ello
07:26 tenplus1 hi CWz
07:26 Raven262 Hello tenplus1
07:26 tenplus1 hi raven
07:28 tenplus1 Question:  Can client mods only be run from server when connected or can a client run their own mod locally ??
07:29 nerzhul client mods runs for every server and are not linked to a particular server
07:29 nerzhul you install it on client, and then let's go bagy
07:29 tenplus1 so I can connect to a server and run my own mod locally while I'm playing on it ???
07:31 tenplus1 also hi nrz :P
07:32 nerzhul like in world of warcraft, CSM mods are intended to improve client experience not regarding server (ATM)
07:33 tenplus1 am just thinking of ways it can exploit protected nodes and such
07:33 tenplus1 trying to figure what to add another layer of protection into
07:35 tenplus1 is override item available to csm ?
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07:52 tenplus1 hi DS-minetest
07:54 DS-minetest hi :)
07:56 benrob0329 Raven262: yes
07:56 benrob0329 tenplus1: oh hi, I guess I'm up way too late again :P
07:56 tenplus1 lol, hi benrob
07:56 benrob0329 http://i.imgur.com/vw6eAek.jpg
07:57 tenplus1 le tardis
07:57 benrob0329 (Not a new project, just a fixed one)
07:57 nerzhul item overriding has no sense in CSM as it cannot modify server sent content, because it's... content :) and manage by server
07:58 tenplus1 *phew* just checking nrz
07:58 nerzhul but you can predict protected nodes if you read node meta client side and react on on_dig
07:58 nerzhul but it's a server side code to ensure it's right and not bypassed :p
07:58 tenplus1 yeah, am inserting added protection to protection mod so players cant mess with chests using csm
07:58 tenplus1 had someone insert formspec using csm and open a protected chest from someone else
08:02 tenplus1 Protector Redo updated (2.0) - has better chest protection from csm interference :P
08:03 nerzhul private meta support ?
08:03 tenplus1 nope, it still has to be compatible with 0.4.14
08:03 tenplus1 just some more player checks
08:03 tenplus1 am trying to keep my mods working with 0.4.14+
08:05 nerzhul private meta is compatible with 0.4.14 if i remember the sfan5 implementation
08:05 nerzhul just it will have no effect until 0.4.16 is released and used by servers
08:08 tenplus1 if it was possible for minetest to update itself to newer versions then I would quite happily add all the new features and functions into mods, but until then I need to keep compatibility...  still cant believe some servers are using 0.4.12
08:08 nerzhul not simple to handle :p
08:09 benrob0329 Not without a launcher anyways :P
08:09 tenplus1 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/5762
08:10 tenplus1 yeah, would be nice... even a message stating a new version is available would be handy
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08:12 tenplus1 hi Krock
08:12 Krock hi tenplus1
08:26 Raven262 benrob0329, nice work on the tardis, though i think the real one has some a bit more detailed console? I'm not sure :P
08:27 tenplus1 the real one has had the tardis interior change so many times :))) would be hard to model them all
08:27 Raven262 The last one i liked the most actually :D
08:27 benrob0329 Raven262: yeah, still got most of the panels to fill in :P
08:51 Krock wat. http://i.imgur.com/1D0Ljel.png
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08:52 tenplus1 hi lumidify
08:52 lumidify Hi tenplus1
08:55 Shara Good morning
08:55 Raven262 Hello Shara
08:57 tenplus1 hi shara
08:57 Shara Hi Raven, hi Ten :)
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09:06 tenplus1 o.O updated xanadu to latest dev and it all broke...
09:19 sfan5 nerzhul: correct
09:20 tenplus1 hi sfan
09:26 Shara tenplus1: All broke?
09:29 tenplus1 creative was changed so the 'creative' priv I added would no longer work properly
09:29 tenplus1 updated my git creative
09:30 Shara Ahh, will have to remember that
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09:45 tenplus1 hi paramat
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10:18 tenplus1 wb Zeno
10:18 Zeno` thx :)
10:18 Zeno` got rid of BNC
10:18 Zeno` don't need it
10:19 tenplus1 bnc ?
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10:45 tenplus1 wb cx384
10:46 red-001 tenplus1, Bounced Network Connection
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10:47 shivajiva https://www.elitebnc.org/
10:47 shivajiva Hiya everyone :)
10:47 tenplus1 hi shiva :P
10:48 tenplus1 for some weird reason I thought he meant this: https://d3i5bpxkxvwmz.cloudfront.net/cac​hed/eeweb/images/thumbs/500/b394127b2e51​f5f3954aa9346c1e10fb_bnc-1308268579.png
10:48 cx384 hi tenplus1
10:48 red-001 tenplus1, lol
10:49 shivajiva :)
10:55 Krock red-001, what does this mean? https://hastebin.com/amijusatij.txt
10:56 Krock tenplus1, high-quality BNC cables ;)
10:56 tenplus1 lol
10:56 red-001 Krock, a known issue
10:56 red-001 I have a pr that happens to also fix that
10:56 red-001 you can safely ignore it
10:58 Krock but then why don't I get any message from [PREVIEW]?
10:58 red-001 shoudln't cause that
10:58 Krock ah, core.after seems to be broken
10:58 tenplus1 for csm ? or everything ?
10:59 Krock only CSN
10:59 Krock s/N/M/
10:59 tenplus1 *phew*...
10:59 Krock the only thing that actually produces an output are chat messages
11:00 Krock "print" seems to be blocked somehow
11:01 red-001 Krock, I bet it's related to the recent console-related change
11:01 red-001 I don't have the issue on linux
11:04 tenplus1 does building minetest use a lot of hdd space ?
11:05 red-001 not really
11:05 Krock 170 MiB for the objects here
11:05 tenplus1 trying to build a version with line_of_sight changes so I can test speed
11:05 Krock err
11:06 Krock wrong bin directory. It's 703 MiB
11:06 Krock plus 340 MiB for a more or less deep copy of the Minetest repo
11:06 tenplus1 hrmmmm
11:06 Krock dunno about linux
11:10 red-001 1.5 GB for me but that includes worlds, etc
11:11 red-001 892.3 MB when I exclude that
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11:18 tenplus1 wb DS-minetest
11:18 Krock red-001, does Lua print("foobar") write anything into your logs?
11:18 Krock how about CSM, serverside?
11:20 red-001 no
11:20 red-001 lua print isn't logged because reasons
11:20 DS-minetest tenplus1: thanks :)
11:20 * red-001 honestly has no idea why
11:26 rubenwardy please may a moderator pin this topic? It should be an official topic to report infringing forks https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=3&t=16020
11:27 rubenwardy (VanessaE ^)
11:29 rubenwardy also, can you rename it to Android and ios
11:31 rubenwardy or remove that entirely
11:31 red-001 could you if possible copy/transfer the posts in https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=3&t=16707 to it?
11:32 rubenwardy yeah, that too^
11:32 rubenwardy it should also be used to report noninfringing forks, to keep track of them
11:35 tenplus1 we just need a way to stop forks connecting to actual mt servers
11:36 rubenwardy not possible
11:36 rubenwardy :P
11:36 tenplus1 buuuuu
11:36 * Shara pokes tenplus1
11:36 tenplus1 hi shara
11:36 Shara It would even be bad
11:37 Shara I like my customised clients :P
11:37 tenplus1 lol...  I dont mind proper clients playing the game, all features accounted for and no shady business and ads/ingame purchases
11:37 Shara Yea, but how do you judge what's proper?
11:38 Shara Then automate a check for that :P
11:38 Shara Though I actually think when the new release is out, I will finally be able to use official client without prblems :D
11:39 tenplus1 you talking 0.4.16 ?
11:39 Shara Or whatever version it will be called
11:40 Shara My console height option will be in this one. COuldn't play with the current :D
11:40 tenplus1 heh
11:41 Shara It'll be the first release with any of my code in too :)
11:41 tenplus1 kewl
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11:45 tenplus1 hi fixer
11:46 Fixer hi
11:46 Shara Hi Fixer
11:53 shivajiva Hi Shara, Fixer, Zeno o/
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11:56 rubenwardy you just leaked your ip, Jordach
11:56 tenplus1 hi Jordach
11:56 rubenwardy need to set up a time out
11:56 rubenwardy :D
11:57 red-001 I see both Krock and Jordach are leaky
11:58 red-001 cloaks don't work that well
11:58 Fuchs they do work if you configure SASL, however, they were never meant to hide your IP and thus don't
11:59 Fuchs so these people's IPs were available before they "leaked" them
12:00 tenplus1 so long as the other end of the IP is protected then it shoudnt matter too much
12:00 red-001 Fuchs, it's just that a lot of people (ab)use cloaks to hide thier ips
12:00 Fuchs they don't. No matter how you use them.
12:00 Fixer so much nice commits recently
12:00 Fixer bugfixes
12:02 Shara Hi shivajiva :)
12:02 Shara (yes, I was slow)
12:08 Krock <|°_°|>
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12:18 Jordach ayy lmao
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12:18 Jordach game i used to binge frequently is having huge issues
12:18 tenplus1 which one
12:18 Jordach cant even be bothered
12:18 Fixer Jordach: bf1?
12:18 Jordach no
12:19 Jordach since they added EAC cheating got popular
12:19 Jordach topkek
12:19 tenplus1 lol
12:21 Fixer Jordach: what is EAC?
12:21 Jordach Easy Anti Cheat
12:21 Jordach literal spyware
12:22 tenplus1 everything will env up with spyware eventually... sad
12:23 Fixer Jordach: like punkbuster?
12:23 Fixer both are spyware
12:24 Jordach yeeeeboi
12:24 Jordach BF1 doesn't use PB anymore
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12:30 Jordach *goes back to MMOs*
12:41 red-001 lol the guy that tried selling a minetest cheating client gave up and released his code
12:41 red-001 the git history is .... entertaining
12:43 tenplus1 hopefully it'll provide a way to block client cheating
12:43 Calinou they removed PunkBuster?
12:43 Calinou what did they put instead?
12:44 Calinou I remember BattlEye being popular among proprietary games
12:44 red-001 tenplus1, it's just entertaining
12:44 red-001 the code isn't useful
12:44 tenplus1 link me
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12:45 tenplus1 hi nathan
12:46 red-001 he also leaked the name of his bitbucket repo but it's private
12:46 tenplus1 lol
12:46 red-001 tenplus1, you can find it on minehacker site
12:47 red-001 like I though the anti-death stuff was BS
12:47 NathanS21 hi tenplus1
12:50 Jordach Calinou, FairFight
12:50 Shara red-001: is minehacker still a thing?
12:50 red-001 Shara, not really
12:51 red-001 it wasn't really that big to start off
12:51 Shara I know. Spent some time poking through the code of it.
12:51 red-001 Shara, so when was a code released?
12:51 Shara It wasn't, as far as I know.
12:51 red-001 s/a/the
12:51 red-001 oh you bought it?
12:51 Shara I had someone who paid for it send it to me.
12:51 red-001 I see
12:51 red-001 waste of money
12:52 Shara Yea. Never would have myself.
12:52 red-001 the creator kinda scamed people
12:52 Shara I only looked at a few parts. Have seen more impressive things that people managed before.
12:53 red-001 like I thought what it does is make is seem like the hacks are good
12:53 red-001 e.g. doesn't stop the client when the server kills it's connection so the player can feel like they can't be kicked
12:54 Shara Kind of silly :)
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13:17 Fixer CYBERRECIDIVIST
13:17 Fixer CYBEROOZE
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13:33 Fixer Jordach: https://pbs.twimg.com/media​/C_962s7UAAAB2mP.jpg:large (meme overuse)
13:34 tenplus1 pft
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13:46 Jordach Fixer, only downside is that if you're far left the centrist seems far right ;)
14:06 tenplus1 Simple Skins updated to work with latest 3d_armor mod
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14:39 tenplus1 hi WhoAreYou
14:40 WhoAreYou Hello tenplus1. :)
14:42 tenplus1 https://github.com/minetes​t/minetest_game/pull/1543
14:45 Krock tenplus1, belongs into #-dev
14:45 tenplus1 arent most of them here already :PPP
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14:47 tenplus1 hi ka
14:47 tenplus1 hi kaeza
14:47 kaeza hi tenplus1
14:47 Krock o/ ka
14:47 kaeza o/ Kr
14:47 Krock \o\  o// \o\
14:48 tenplus1 http://cdn.ebaumsworld.com/mediaF​iles/picture/2183782/85360109.jpg
14:50 Krock I'm sure their taste is better
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14:53 tenplus1 hi CWz
14:53 tenplus1 and yeah, I bet they do :D
14:54 * Krock tries to fight through the Linux distribution jungle to find the best looking one for newcomers
14:57 Calinou Krock: stop searching, it's still Ubuntu today
14:57 Calinou at least for computer illiterate people (and even then…)
14:57 Calinou for computer literates, you can pick a lot more distros, like Fedora, Manjaro…
14:57 tenplus1 lol
14:58 Fixer Xubuntu
14:58 tenplus1 Xubuntu 17.04 is very easy to install, use and upgrade
14:58 Calinou Xubuntu should do it for computer iliterates, yeah
14:58 Krock Manjaro and Mint are already on my first fav list
14:58 Calinou by Ubuntu, I included official derivatives as well
14:58 Calinou (except Lubuntu perhaps)
14:58 * tenplus1 uses Lubuntu... even easier
14:58 Calinou Lubuntu is nice, but it doesn't hold your hand much, I found
14:58 Krock where fav = "perhaps going to try"
14:59 Fixer Calinou: and what is manjaro?
14:59 Calinou https://manjaro.org/
14:59 Calinou a fancy term for "easy-to-install and more stable Arch Linux"
14:59 Fixer Calinou: got it /// more stable? o_0
15:00 red-001 Calinou, so dry water?
15:02 Calinou Fixer: Manjaro is more "half-rolling" than a true rolling release
15:02 Calinou it has updates every 2 to 3 weeks on average
15:02 Calinou the packages are slightly more tested than in Arch
15:02 Calinou you can also pin your kernel to a LTS version
15:02 Fixer Calinou: nice
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15:07 tenplus1 wb stormchaser3000
15:10 stormchaser3000 hi
15:20 Fixer https://i.imgur.com/KsVQyVq.png
15:20 Fixer if it is not trolling than what?
15:20 Fixer tha(e)n
15:21 tenplus1 o.O what did I just read
15:21 red-001 Fixer, you will never know
15:29 lisac hey cheapie, chat6 is awesome! :)
15:33 cheapie Heh, thanks.
15:34 Fixer more progress on my base https://i.imgur.com/3iySt76.jpg
15:35 lisac base, Fixer?
15:35 Fixer base, home, whatever
15:36 lisac I built something nice not so long ago
15:36 lisac I'll grab some screenshots :D
15:37 Fixer house itself was test of new vanilla blocks
15:38 lisac Oh :( So we aren't sharing nice buildings?
15:39 Fixer ?
15:39 VanessaE rubenwardy: stickied, and renamed
15:40 lisac http://imgur.com/a/Lj6C6
15:41 lisac :D
15:41 red-001 VanessaE, is transfering the other posts posible?
15:41 VanessaE depends what you mean
15:42 red-001 move posts in https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=3&amp;t=16707 to the new topic
15:43 red-001 s/new/stickied
15:43 VanessaE I could perhaps do that
15:43 VanessaE gimme a few
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15:51 Fixer lisac: very nice
15:51 lisac thanks :)
15:51 lisac it's on Craig's server.
15:52 VanessaE red-001: posts moved.  actually I did it backward, but it still resulted in one topic, so it's all good.
15:59 red-001 ty
16:03 VanessaE np.
16:13 Fixer pokerface http://www.dedoimedo.com/images/computers-y​ears/2016-2/manjaro-updates-downloading.jpg
16:14 VanessaE nore: there seems to be a problem with node breakers wielding dye.
16:14 VanessaE [05-20 12:12] <VanessaE> 2017-05-20 13:48:26: ERROR[Main]: ServerError: AsyncErr: environment_Step: Runtime error from mod '' in callback environment_Step(): ...orld/worldmods/dreambuilder_m​odpack/unifieddyes/init.lua:212: attempt to call method 'get_look_vertical'
16:23 nore VanessaE: not surprising
16:23 nore wielders need to provide functions for the new APIs
16:23 nore Including that one
16:24 nore Are you able to do this? I'm in a plane right now, coding is a bot difficult :)
16:24 nore *bit
16:25 VanessaE I'm trying to take a coding break for a while
16:25 VanessaE (that recent mt_game pull request notwithstanding)
16:25 paramat wow impressed you can contact us from a plane
16:25 nore Hmmmm will try to do that then
16:26 nore paramat: we didn't take off yet :p
16:26 nore (haven't?)
16:26 paramat hehe
16:26 VanessaE haven't*
16:26 nore Hmm haven't taken actually
16:27 nore Anyway it's easier :)
16:27 nore Although, in at least one of the planes I was last time, there was this strange "internet access while flying" thing
16:28 nore Didn't know that was a thing
16:28 paramat i can see the demand for it
16:28 red-001 some planes even have a portable mobile base station
16:30 nore Well anyway, this is one of the times I'm happy to arrive to the airport early
16:31 nore My first flight was delayed enough so that I couldn't get my second flight
16:31 nore But they got me one of the last seats on the previous flight :)
16:33 nore Anyway, taking off soon, see you later
16:34 tenplus1 enjoy da flight :P
16:34 Fixer manjaro forum is so hip
16:36 tenplus1 easy to read... I like that :P
16:37 VanessaE nore: headed back to Frenchyland? :)
16:37 VanessaE (yeah, I'm not that imaginative :P )
16:38 nore VanessaE: nope, taking part in the ACM-ICPC world finals :)
16:38 VanessaE cool
16:38 nore Anyway, they are asking to put devices in flight mode now
16:38 nore Bbl
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17:13 tenplus1 hi LazyJ
17:13 LazyJ Howdy tenplus1 ;)
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17:13 tenplus1 wb paramat
17:20 tenplus1 bbl
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18:17 Wayward_One hi all
18:17 Krock hi Wayward_One
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18:39 tenplus1 hi peeps
18:40 tenplus1 for those who like to play with mobs, here is every Minecraft mob as a pack for MObs Redo, curtesy of 22i: https://github.com/22i/amc/
18:41 Fixer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfUWbgLdSgE
18:42 tenplus1 *click*
18:45 tenplus1 nice song fixer, thx :P
18:45 NathanS21 Is there a partial changelog anyplace for the 0.4.16 release yet? I looked around, but couldn't find anything.
18:45 NathanS21 I did find that I could compare the old release verse master on Git
18:46 NathanS21 and that gave me a pretty good listing of changes.
18:46 Krock NathanS21, .14 -> .15 isn't done either
18:46 NathanS21 okay then. :P
18:46 NathanS21 maybe I should eliminate the part in my video where I tell people to check out the changelog
18:46 NathanS21 :D
18:47 Krock https://forum.minetest.net/vi​ewtopic.php?p=262214#p262214
18:47 Krock I hope this helps
18:47 NathanS21 ah, very nice.
18:47 NathanS21 will check through that.
18:48 NathanS21 I've been starting work on my release video
19:13 paramat best changelog is the list of commits on github, and is little different :]
19:14 * paramat dislikes 'meetings'
19:14 tenplus1 lol
19:17 NathanS21 I looked at the commits
19:17 NathanS21 planning on this being my best release video yet.
19:17 Calinou a commit log is not a changelog
19:17 * tenplus1 looks forward to seeing it :D
19:17 NathanS21 though I've only done two others, so I don't have to aim very high. :)
19:17 Calinou http://keepachangelog.com/en/0.3.0/
19:17 Calinou read this, and come back
19:17 Calinou I wanted to make a changelog for 0.4.14 -> 0.4.15 but haven't done it to due to lack of time, and it's very late now
19:20 NathanS21 tenplus1, I recorded most of it today, but will be watching changes closely to see if anything I mentioned changes.
19:20 NathanS21 still need to record the bit on CSM
19:21 tenplus1 still havent tried csm
19:21 paramat yeah, but our changelogs have been almost identical to a list of commit messages, only a little clearer
19:21 NathanS21 I tried it on a server, didn't work, but it worked fine on a local game.
19:21 Calinou not really
19:21 Calinou changelogs contain user-facing changes, deprecations, etc
19:21 Calinou they do not contain "Fix typo", reverted changes, or code-only changes
19:22 Calinou this makes them much more usable for end users and even modders
19:22 Calinou seriously, please don't call a git commit log a changelog. it is everything but that
19:24 paramat i know it isn't. i'm saying our changelogs have, partly, been very similar to a list of commit message first lines
19:24 paramat the last one for engine was
19:24 paramat mtg was better
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19:35 tenplus1 wb DS-minetest
19:36 DS-minetest thanks tenplus1 and hi
19:37 tenplus1 was hoping pull #1543 would get into 0.4.16
19:42 DS-minetest #1543 was merged, do you mean game#1543 ?
19:43 tenplus1 yes... creative priv :PPP
19:47 DS-minetest hm, where there ever problems with copying text from one minetest formspec field to another?
20:41 tenplus1 nite folks
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20:42 kaeza DS-minetest, not that I know of
20:42 kaeza are you using Ctrl+C?
20:44 kaeza I ask because I tend to use Ctrl+Insert to copy and Shift+Insert to paste, and these combos don't work in Irrlicht text fields :/
21:13 Calinou I always forget those shortcuts are a thing
21:13 Calinou (why do these exist by the way?)
21:14 Calinou only slightly less silly than Xorg's "middle mouse for paste" :D
21:14 Calinou (which uses a different clipboard sometimes, so it can be useful)
21:15 Fixer i'm using Ctrl+V to paste password into mt gui
21:15 Fixer works
21:15 Fixer from spec to spec - will check
21:16 DS-minetest middle mouse is extremely useful
21:17 Fixer especially in minetest
21:17 Fixer i broke my previous mouse wheel... because minetest
21:17 Fixer minetest should have a quick way to craft entire stack
21:18 DS-minetest middle mouse copying works in formspec?!
21:18 Fixer not shift + middle wheel
21:18 DS-minetest ah
21:18 Fixer DS-minetest: that was not answer to your question
21:18 DS-minetest but that above
21:19 Fixer DS-minetest: win7, latest engine, copy from chat to creative search field works
21:19 Fixer both ways
21:19 Fixer seems to work
21:19 DS-minetest ok
21:20 Fixer *carpets*
21:42 NathanS21 the best colo eh?
21:42 NathanS21 is that like cola?
21:42 NathanS21 :D
21:42 VanessaE nono
21:42 VanessaE colo, as in co-located
21:42 VanessaE :)
21:42 redisthebestcolo wait my can I see that part of my password?
21:42 redisthebestcolo why*
21:43 * VanessaE throws some Atomic "Perfect Yellow" PLA at redisthebestcolo
21:44 redisthebestcolo oh so you can copy and paste it just not see it?
21:44 VanessaE bleh, forget it red.  the joke is dead now :P
21:45 redisthebestcolo yeah I guess
21:45 redisthebestcolo still hunter2 is the password no one would expect
21:45 redisthebestcolo so therefore it's the best password
21:45 VanessaE heh
21:45 VanessaE or correctbatteryhorsestaple
21:45 red-hunter-002 or that
21:46 VanessaE (or whatever the order was)
21:46 NathanS21 that is the better password
21:46 red-hunter-002 correcthorsestaplebattery
21:46 red-hunter-002 iirc
21:46 VanessaE correct horse battery staple
21:46 VanessaE (just checked)
21:46 red-hunter-002 wow I was right
21:46 VanessaE https://xkcd.com/936/
21:46 red-hunter-002 nvm
21:47 red-hunter-002 the other way feel more right to say
21:47 red-hunter-002 as in it's the correct type of horse-staple battery
21:48 VanessaE look at the comic :)
21:48 red-hunter-002 horse-staple is just a name for a battery type
21:48 red-hunter-002 like lithuim-ion
21:49 Calinou "12345 is a bad password!" —Minecraft splash
21:49 red-hunter-002 honestly it wouldn't be a good password
21:49 VanessaE of course, no thanks to that comic, now no one can use the words horse, battery, correct, staple, trombone, or troubador. :P
21:49 red-hunter-002 it's only good for brute-force attacks
21:50 red-hunter-002 dictionary attack would destory that password
21:50 Calinou yeah
21:50 Calinou you can modify the words or create portmanteaus though
21:50 Fixer Calinou: they are even more lazier
21:50 Calinou change casing, add numbers or special characters…
21:50 Calinou use non-English words too
21:50 Fixer Calinou: someone had password: 1
21:51 Calinou apparently, portmanteaus is valid: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portmanteau
21:51 Calinou but it can also be written "portmanteaux"
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