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03:19 garywhite hello
03:19 garywhite ?
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03:29 benrob0329 hi garywhite
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09:03 tenplus1 hi folks
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09:06 tenplus1 hi paramat
09:14 tenplus1 Note: PlayerPlus has been updated, back to using previous knockback method which works
09:40 shivajiva Hiya folks :)
09:40 tenplus1 hi shiva
09:41 shivajiva looked like you missed a return out to me
09:41 tenplus1 huh ??
09:42 shivajiva in the prev commit
09:42 tenplus1 -.o *bearly eyed*...  still waking up... gotta explain what you mean ?!/!
09:43 shivajiva I had a quick look when I saw the msg and it seemed like singleplayer still tried to use the move method
09:44 tenplus1 ohh...  I removed the new technique altogether and stuck with attach routine.. it's back to normal again
09:45 shivajiva so only visually okay for lan?
09:45 tenplus1 yeah, moveto looked ok on lan but being the actual player it teleported you back and ppl were wondering what was happening too often... it didnt FEEL like knockback at all... so back to attach routine and hoping the 0,0,0 slide-in glitch gets sorted
09:46 shivajiva don't worry I can't seem to wake up today and I've been up for 3 hours :)
09:47 tenplus1 heh
09:47 tenplus1 am happy to see chests back to using default textures again, feels a lot better with mod usage
09:51 shivajiva :)
10:00 tenplus1 I like the pull for the corner stairs :) that would be a happy addition
10:04 * shivajiva goes off to check it out
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10:05 tenplus1 hi behalebabo
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10:23 tenplus1 hi Fixer
10:25 Fixer hi
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10:36 tenplus1 hi Darcidride
10:49 Darcidride Hi everybody
10:49 tenplus1 :P
10:50 shivajiva Hi Darcidride :)
10:51 Darcidride :)
10:55 behalebabo a late hello, tenplus1
10:55 tenplus1 :PP
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10:57 tenplus1 hi lumidify
10:58 lumidify Hi tenplus1
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11:28 tenplus1 hi raven
11:28 Raven262 Greetings, 10+1
11:28 Raven262 xD
11:41 paramat erm, you're all greeting a onety-one bot
11:41 * tenplus1 bot is happy
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11:45 Fixer paramat: hi, please make that branch, i want to check wth is creating so much particles on that server
11:45 tenplus1 does the new patch work fixer ?
11:48 Fixer tenplus1: kinda works, i need to check few places, I had lots of particles and low fps even with both patches
11:48 tenplus1 does the patch limit particles to the active block range ?
11:49 Fixer tenplus1: iirc to other setting that is set to 160
11:50 tenplus1 ahh, wont be able to see anything by a certain limit anyhoo :P
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11:55 tenplus1 hi Jordach
12:08 paramat limit is 'max block send distance' 160 by default
12:08 tenplus1 kewl
12:10 paramat Fixer it's not a good idea to judge my commits based on a server where all sorts of weird stuff may be happening. best to test in a new world with one mod, as you have done
12:10 Fixer still useful to see it working on actual server
12:11 Fixer i'm puzzled on what are those 400-700 particles from time to time
12:11 paramat one thing you could do is reduce max block send distance gradually to home-in on the source of particles
12:11 tenplus1 breaking blocks has particles active all the time, anything to do with those ?
12:11 Fixer no
12:12 paramat but i might make that branch
12:12 Fixer paramat: nah, particles coordinates will help a lot to find the source, i've tried some distancetoo particle, but it was not really usable to find a particle
12:12 Fixer or spawner
12:13 paramat yeah
12:13 paramat ok
12:14 Fixer homedecor modpack having dependancy is just silly... modpack should not have external deps
12:15 tenplus1 dependency on what ?
12:16 Fixer unifieddyes
12:16 tenplus1 whyyyyyy ?
12:16 tenplus1 too many dependencies already in homedecor
12:16 Fixer tenplus1: coloring
12:17 paramat looks like punch and dig particles are triggered clientside in particles.cpp so we can be sure they are not sent to all players
12:17 paramat i hope
12:19 tenplus1 Fixer: when you untick particles do they still get processed in background ?
12:19 Fixer tenplus1: unwhat?
12:19 Fixer paramat: yes, they are not send to other players
12:20 Fixer paramat: i think I know the suspects
12:21 Fixer paramat: hometown has homedecor, and homedecor has this: https://i.imgur.com/4hOeKGT.png
12:22 Fixer amazing how one faucet can literally drain your fps
12:22 tenplus1 weird, I dont have a particle count when I go into F5 stats
12:22 paramat just realised i have not distance-limited infinite-life particle spawners =/ will do
12:22 paramat maybe those are infinite-life?
12:22 Fixer one sec
12:23 paramat 'time = 0' is infinite
12:24 Fixer yes time = 0
12:24 Fixer here is "water api" https://pastebin.com/raw/XkEjBUTs
12:25 paramat hehe
12:25 Fixer paramat: you can literally lag out everyone if you enable 20 faucets
12:25 Fixer "reduce fps to minimum"
12:26 paramat man what a waste of particles, 60 per second
12:27 Fixer 158 fps - 0 faucets, 107 fps - 1 faucet, 78 fps - 2 faucet, 62 fps - 3 faucet
12:27 tenplus1 ouch!!!
12:27 tenplus1 so glad I'm using an old homedecor before all the meshes and particles
12:28 paramat good, these will be a good test of my finished PR
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12:28 Fixer https://i.imgur.com/bWhlaz1.png
12:28 paramat will be done in 2-3 hrs
12:28 tenplus1 hi RobbieF
12:28 Fixer 47 fps...
12:28 tenplus1 playerplus updated and working a-ok now dude
12:28 Fixer with graph enabled
12:29 paramat and every particle a separate irrlicht scene-node
12:30 Fixer https://i.imgur.com/5SapEkT.png
12:31 Fixer this is nice "exploit"
12:31 tenplus1 would be handy to have particle setting "none", "low", "normal"
12:32 Fixer you can literally punish all players with just 10 faucets
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12:32 tenplus1 wb lumidify
12:32 Fixer to grind their fps down to 20 or lower
12:32 tenplus1 very evil and highly inefficient
12:32 lumidify Hi tenplus1
12:33 Fixer paramat: yes, it does look those faucet particles are still rendered beyond 160
12:34 Fixer https://i.imgur.com/6cIvxk8.png
12:35 Fixer it checks out, probably some kid(s) enable(s) some faucets/showers at spawn and it trashes the fps for everyone
12:37 paramat wow
12:40 Fixer it should be at least partially responsible for that big fps drop, i see big corellation of low fps and particle count on hometown server too, but not in all cases
12:41 Fixer it does look cpu intensive too
12:41 tenplus1 am starting to think mods should check if particles enabled before adding these effects
12:41 Fixer tenplus1: they are enabled, you can disable only dig particles
12:45 paramat ok updated https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/5766 but have not tested yet
12:45 paramat i'll test with some faucets in an hour
12:46 paramat the settings menu perhaps needs clarification, i thought 'particles' switched all particles until recently
12:47 paramat its only dig particles
12:48 tenplus1 like I said, having an option of "none", "low", "normal"  will allow mods to control particles a little better
12:53 paramat 'low' would alter particle rate in ways not wanted, often reducing particles in a particular situation is worse than disabling them. on or off is enough and reduction is complex to do. back later
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12:54 tenplus1 hi DS-minetest
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12:56 DS-minetest hi
12:59 * Jordach has anders enger jensen's new album
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12:59 tenplus1 :P
13:00 tenplus1 hi octacian
13:00 octacian hey tenplus1 :D
13:03 Fixer it does limit infinite particles too after PR update
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13:05 tenplus1 how so?
13:06 Jordach https://github.com/junyanz/i​nteractive-deep-colorization
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13:13 tenplus1 hi NathanS21
13:13 NathanS21 hi tenplus1
13:16 Jordach >Software
13:16 Jordach >Operating System: FreeDOS
13:16 Jordach HP
13:16 Jordach WAT
13:16 tenplus1 lol
13:16 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/wmQA0X8.png
13:17 tenplus1 ahh, in other words you save £80 not having Winblows installed...  freedor is just there to check it all works :D
13:19 Jordach then you run KMS activator
13:19 Jordach Kappa
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13:57 paramat good thanks Fixer
13:57 tenplus1 wb paramat
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14:29 tenplus1 hi WhoAreYou
14:29 WhoAreYou Hello 10+1. :)
14:34 tenplus1 Bonemeal mod updated with intllib support and french language
14:36 benrob0329 Hello
14:36 tenplus1 hi benrob
14:36 benrob0329 what's up?
14:36 tenplus1 fixer and paramat working on particles, playerplus and bonemeal mods both updated earlier
14:36 tenplus1 you?
14:37 benrob0329 I made a meme the other day
14:37 tenplus1 ooh, show me :P
14:37 benrob0329 https://youtu.be/UUvGGLOTCSY
14:38 tenplus1 ahahahahahahahahaahha nice one :DD
14:39 tenplus1 +100...
14:39 benrob0329 Ty
14:42 tenplus1 those memes are especially funny to me :P I see so many of them
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14:45 tenplus1 hi CWz
14:46 CWz hey
14:48 tenplus1 benrob0329: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaJbJMy_V2U
15:06 benrob0329 tenplus1: that was the strangest 12 minutes of my life
15:07 benrob0329 (Offtopic) https://youtu.be/dV4yHbese8w
15:08 tenplus1 watching Dank Webm's
15:08 tenplus1 ooh sweet...
15:13 Calinou hi
15:13 tenplus1 hi Cal
15:13 Calinou Jordach: FreeDOS is often put on OS-less computers to be legally safe from saying "your PC is not working"
15:13 Calinou MSI does that often
15:14 tenplus1 my last 2x desktops and laptop was ordered with FreeDOS since I run linux :P
15:14 tenplus1 saved 80 quid on each
15:18 benrob0329 What can one even do with freedos nowadays?
15:19 tenplus1 update bios firmware, memtest, run dos games :)
15:19 benrob0329 but couldn't you do that from a small linux setup too?
15:20 tenplus1 yeah...  freedos is just something you get by default that doesnt cost anything to install/setup...
15:21 red-001 wouldn't it make more sense to install some distro of linux?
15:22 tenplus1 if all hardware in that build was guaranteed to work then yes... definitely :))   I love how Dell, System76 and a few others give ubuntu as base install
15:26 Calinou I'd rather not have them bother at all
15:26 Calinou OEM installs always suck
15:26 Calinou even the Ubuntu ones
15:26 tenplus1 lol
15:26 Calinou they're often LTS, sometimes non-latest LTS, and when you want another distro you just reinstall anyway
15:27 tenplus1 I enjoy doing a fresh install anyway :D
15:27 Calinou yeah, I prefer that by far
15:31 tenplus1 you running manjaro /
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15:53 Calinou yes
15:55 tenplus1 wb Dargod
15:57 Dargod tenplus1: hey
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16:08 Jordach *autistic screaming*
16:09 Jordach Guardians Cassette Vol 2 incoming in June
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16:09 tenplus1 lol... was a great movie :PPPP
16:11 Fixer tenplus1: 80 what? also, why so much? OEM win costs like few backs
16:12 tenplus1 I spec'd up two similar desktops and the one with freedos was 80 pounds cheaper...
16:25 tenplus1 am just glad they give the choice, not everyone wants windows with a new pc so we get to save a little :P
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16:33 Krock hi tenplus1
16:38 tenplus1 hi Krock
16:38 * tenplus1 has coffee (_)P  *le sip*
16:39 red-001 hello Krock
16:39 Krock |_P
16:39 Krock hi red-001
16:40 tenplus1 hi red
16:53 tenplus1 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/5762
17:34 tenplus1 would anyone be interested in benchmarking the above pull ?
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18:02 benrob0329 hi DS-minetest
18:02 tenplus1 wb DS-minetest
18:02 DS-minetest hi and thanks :)
18:02 Shara Hello
18:02 tenplus1 hi Shara
18:02 benrob0329 I think I'm going to restart work on my 100 subscriber special
18:03 tenplus1 ooh, what you got planned ?
18:03 benrob0329 Its an animation, I've got a good chunk of it done
18:03 benrob0329 Just lost intrest for a bit with a creative block
18:03 tenplus1 it happens :P still in mines.. ehehe
18:04 tenplus1 omg, the most scariest mob in minetest: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXbtXM2NwkA
18:04 garywhite ten did you get my message from MinetestBot?
18:05 tenplus1 which one ?
18:05 Krock #195
18:05 garywhite I only sent one using MinetestBot or ShadowBot or whatever bot it is here
18:05 tenplus1 only one I got earlier was from robbie and ben
18:05 Krock that mob shouldn't even exist
18:05 garywhite I sent it yesterday, why didn't it send?
18:05 tenplus1 weird, what did it say gary ?
18:06 tenplus1 lol krock
18:06 garywhite Oh, I see I forgot to use later tell
18:06 tenplus1 omg, I hate it when players record minetest games and the lag is soooooo bad you get 4fps
18:07 benrob0329 Sounds like my first few videos :PP
18:08 garywhite OK, I think it sent this time
18:08 tenplus1 lol
18:10 benrob0329 We need more people in the Matrix chat! :P
18:10 Jordach no
18:10 benrob0329 Oh hush
18:10 Jordach that makes IRC pointless
18:10 benrob0329 Exactly
18:10 Jordach IRC is more useful
18:10 * tenplus1 likes irc
18:10 * DS-minetest too
18:10 benrob0329 Jordach: how?
18:11 Jordach benrob0329, no forced server, Matrix still needs to connect to a centralised server
18:11 benrob0329 no
18:11 benrob0329 Matrix is federated
18:11 benrob0329 Or not, if you really want
18:11 benrob0329 Depends on how you set up your homeserver
18:12 tenplus1 who builds their own version of minetest ?
18:12 Krock IRC is likely the only thing that continues working when everything other times out or loses the connection
18:12 benrob0329 Krock: have you seen mobile irc clients?
18:12 Krock tenplus1, me? But benchmarking isn't something I'm good at
18:12 benrob0329 ^^
18:12 Krock benrob0329, yes, seen people that use them. But myself, I don't use any
18:13 tenplus1 would it be possible to build a linux minetest with the change for line_of_sight I made ? I'll do the speed test
18:13 benrob0329 They suck, Riot never has an issue
18:13 tenplus1 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/5762
18:13 Krock Linux -> Windows works,   Windows -> Linux .. I'd rather suicide
18:14 tenplus1 lol
18:14 benrob0329 I could build it, but I'm on Gentoo and probably have newer libraries that it'd build against
18:14 Krock just use the one liner script from Cal
18:14 Krock and build it on your machine. only takes about 30 mins on a weak singlecore CPU
18:14 garywhite Windows -> Linux = BOOOOOOOM
18:14 tenplus1 lol, my pc would literally die... it's 1,.8ghz
18:15 Krock >using literally
18:15 * Jordach can do it in about 2 minutes
18:15 benrob0329 Btw can someone add the gentoo deps command I posted in -dev a while ago to the wiki? (Will retrieve)
18:15 benrob0329 I should time my build times
18:15 Krock tenplus1, a debug build can be compiled faster, perhaps in 15 mins when compiling everything from scratch
18:16 garywhite Why do you think Microsoft has never ported Office to Linux, even though both macOS & Linux are both Unix-based
18:16 Krock beacuse cash
18:16 tenplus1 yeah...  linux is heavy on open source, they know we wouldnt pay for that
18:16 Krock I'm quite sure Apple paid them some money to get the support on macOS
18:16 tenplus1 especially since you can get office 365 on browser anyhow
18:17 garywhite Actually, Office was for Mac originally, then it got ported to Windows in the early 90s
18:17 benrob0329 emerge --ask dev-util/cmake dev-vcs/git dev-games/irrlicht app-arch/bzip2 sys-devel/gettext media-libs/freetype media-libs/libpng media-libs/libjpeg-turbo x11-libs/libXxf86vm media-libs/mesa dev-db/sqlite media-libs/libogg media-libs/libvorbis media-libs/openal dev-db/redis net-misc/curl
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18:18 tenplus1 hi amaz
18:18 Amaz Hi ten :)
18:19 Jordach i wanna go here
18:19 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/BEVkrJK.mp4
18:20 tenplus1 wow, crystal blue waters
18:20 * tenplus1 puts some in kettle for coffee
18:22 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/BABSiUn.jpg
18:23 tenplus1 lolol
18:24 benrob0329 Lol
18:25 Krock xD
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18:27 tenplus1 wb rubenwardy
18:28 rubenwardy hi
18:30 Krock o/ rubenwardy
18:31 Jordach wassup http://i.imgur.com/fBu7KHh.jpg
18:33 benrob0329 Jordach: call an Exorcist
18:33 benrob0329 The place is haunted
18:35 tenplus1 http://cdn.ebaumsworld.com/mediaF​iles/picture/2183782/85359450.jpg
18:36 KaadmY > things  fits
18:36 tenplus1 hi KaadmY
18:36 KaadmY Yo
18:36 benrob0329 Wait, a keyboard fits in your pocket?
18:37 tenplus1 yeah, can easily get mini bluetooth keyboards or rollup usb ones :D
18:37 DS-minetest seems like pockets become bigger
18:38 benrob0329 tenplus1: but that's not a real keyboard
18:38 Krock tenplus1, grammar++ in that image
18:38 benrob0329 Sure, you can type on it, but its a pain
18:38 tenplus1 http://www.thinkgeek.com/images/prod​ucts/zoom/edc1_roll_up_keyboard.jpg
18:39 rubenwardy argh, more shtposts in general discussion :(
18:39 rubenwardy oh well, 50 people
18:39 tenplus1 lol
18:39 rubenwardy *wow
18:39 Shara Tis is why I don't look at the forums :)
18:39 Shara This*
18:40 tenplus1 you ever read the "what happened a million years ago" thread ?
18:40 tenplus1 it's sscarey
18:40 Jordach rubenwardy, vote me for forum admin and i'll hand out bans like they're CC0 on a torrent site
18:40 rubenwardy I commented on it a few minutes ago, tenplus1
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18:40 Jordach s/CC0/Game of Thrones/g
18:40 Shara tenplus1: I skimmed it a bit once, closed it and did not go back
18:40 benrob0329 Oh gosh, let that thread die
18:40 tenplus1 lololol
18:40 rubenwardy they're literally been justifying the suppression of women, beating up gay people, and paedophilia
18:40 benrob0329 wtf
18:40 Shara uhhh
18:41 Shara If it's that bad, forum needs more moderators really.
18:41 benrob0329 its an offtopic post gone offtopic..
18:41 rubenwardy apparently it's dangerous for a women to do all the things a man can do
18:41 benrob0329 Wtfh
18:42 Jordach LET ME NUKE THEM LIKE I NUKED THE FREEMINER TOPIC
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18:42 tenplus1 wb lumidify
18:42 benrob0329 what does any of that have to do with creation vs evolution?
18:42 Krock Jordach, what FM topic?
18:42 lumidify Hi tenplus1
18:43 benrob0329 Jordach: nuke their asses
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18:43 benrob0329 Nuke em to the moon
18:43 Shara I'm not going to look, because I'll get too annoyed that I can't do anything about it.
18:44 Shara I don't see replying to such things as an option.
18:44 VanessaE what's the topic link, and should I just nuke the fucking thing?
18:44 benrob0329 VanessaE: yes
18:44 benrob0329 Wipe it clean off the face of the earth
18:44 Raven262 lol
18:44 benrob0329 Its in off topic
18:44 VanessaE link please
18:44 tenplus1 hi Vanessa
18:44 VanessaE hi'
18:45 Shara VanessaE: If it includes what rubenwardy says... please murder it :)
18:45 benrob0329 https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php​?f=17&t=16992&view=unread#unread
18:45 VanessaE *looks*
18:45 Raven262 This thing should have been nuked ling ago.
18:45 Raven262 *long
18:46 Raven262 As should have been this keyboard too.
18:46 * VanessaE wads it up and throws it in the trasjh
18:46 VanessaE trash*
18:46 tenplus1 that thread is almost as bad as this post: http://cdn.ebaumsworld.com/mediaF​iles/picture/730195/85357483.jpg
18:46 Krock benrob0329, uh? was it moved?
18:46 Raven262 lol
18:47 Jordach VanessaE, waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa​aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat
18:47 Raven262 Finally one less cancer topic in the forums.
18:47 Jordach one
18:47 benrob0329 Ahh, feel the radioactive breeze
18:48 VanessaE there's not much I'd like more than to nuke the whole G*d damned "offtopic" section entirely
18:48 Krock offtopic is like nuclear waste that's just lying there, available for kids to play with it
18:48 benrob0329 Lol
18:48 VanessaE hah
18:48 Krock as longer they play with it, the worse it gets
18:48 Shara It seems to spill out elsewhere though
18:49 benrob0329 VanessaE: you can nuke it to give it a fresh start, with more rules..
18:49 benrob0329 Like no politics
18:49 tenplus1 Offtopic (NO policits or religion)
18:49 Krock wat. we don't need a fresh server
18:49 benrob0329 Wat no
18:49 Jordach VanessaE, let me moderate the forums
18:50 VanessaE Jordach: not my call to make
18:50 Jordach it'll look like the night after a hot curry by the time i'm done with it: utterly destroyed
18:50 Krock +1, Jordach will beat the records of topic locks
18:50 VanessaE (I don't have the ability to make you a mod)
18:50 Jordach hoon at c55 then
18:50 VanessaE hoon?
18:50 Jordach honk
18:50 benrob0329 celeron55: *poke*
18:50 VanessaE well you honk at him :)
18:50 Jordach this is the forums http://i.imgur.com/xVSudXc.png
18:50 Krock common typo
18:51 Krock Jordach, no. It's not. It must be a full garbage can
18:51 Raven262 Dats the offtopic part.
18:51 * Jordach has a better idea
18:51 Jordach for every shit thread
18:51 Jordach it becomes a spidey thread
18:51 benrob0329 ?
18:51 Krock ...means?
18:51 Jordach http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/​this-is-now-a-spiderman-thread
18:52 Jordach and followed by deletion
18:52 Krock again the origin: 4chan, oh my gosh, who expected that? /s
18:52 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/nzcWewH.png
18:53 tenplus1 lol
18:53 Krock clippy!
18:53 benrob0329 Just nuke offtopic
18:53 Krock "May I help you?" "Do you have a question?" "Hello, do you have a problem?" "May I help you?"
18:54 Krock No. Just no, clippy.
18:54 tenplus1 "Ah! I see you would like to fly a plane into this building, may I make a suggestion?".
18:54 Shara There's nothing wrong with the idea of an off topic section... but when it gets treated like a no rules freefall, it's just a waste of space
18:54 Shara free for all*
18:54 benrob0329 No no
18:54 VanessaE omg
18:54 VanessaE please tell me that's a joke
18:54 benrob0329 Free fall is perfect
18:54 Krock ^
18:54 VanessaE (the loop shape, not the eyes)
18:55 Krock VanessaE, also seen this visualisation a while ago in the local newspapers
18:55 Krock so yeah.. I think it's legit
18:55 Shara It might be perfect if it meant things self-destructed themselves by going splat
18:55 VanessaE oh good lord
18:55 benrob0329 Shara: XD
18:55 VanessaE new yorkers have gotta be shitting their pants
18:56 Jordach https://cdn0.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/cOa45Fy1RSJpV2l​xvKvfXd16CO4=/3x0:1017x676/1200x800/filters:foca​l(3x0:1017x676)/cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_​image/image/31657383/cortanaclippy1_1020.0.jpg
18:56 Jordach webdevs you suck ass
18:56 Krock but maybe it was an fools day joke. dunno. They should build regular buildings that are more stable than that clippy building
18:57 benrob0329 Yes, a giant dome!
18:58 benrob0329 Anyways, yes please nuke OfT
19:00 * Jordach inserts Van Halen 1984 into the tape deck
19:00 tenplus1 schweet
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19:18 tenplus1 lol, most of this new age crap is getting out of hand: http://lolsnaps.com/funny/190727/man-uses-e​nergy-shield-to-block-mma-fighter-s-punches
19:19 benrob0329 tenplus1: the link doesn't work
19:20 Krock it works but nothing moves... is it supposed to be an animation?
19:20 tenplus1 yeh
19:21 tenplus1 https://gfycat.com/gifs/deta​il/ThirdMeagerHookersealion try this one
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19:22 benrob0329 tenplus1: OH MY GOSH ITS TRUR
19:22 tenplus1 :P
19:23 benrob0329 Hold on, I need to go get my shockra tuned to 444
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19:41 rubenwardy VanessaE, this one too: https://forum.minetest.net/vi​ewtopic.php?p=270710#p270710
19:42 tenplus1 o.O
19:42 Krock yet more garbage
19:42 Raven262 lol
19:42 Raven262 This one is real garbage.
19:42 rubenwardy both are/were
19:42 Raven262 Well, offtopic has lots of these stuff.
19:43 Raven262 I browse the forums almost every day.
19:43 tenplus1 same
19:43 tenplus1 a lot of fluff that can be removed from forums
19:44 red-001 just reset the offtopic section once a month
19:44 red-001 wipe it clean
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19:46 tenplus1 hi cx384
19:47 cx384 hi tenplus1
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20:02 Jordach just ban the shit posters for n^2 days
20:02 Jordach n being the previous bans
20:04 benrob0329 0 ** 2? how'd thay work?
20:04 Jordach it starts at 1
20:05 celeron55 first you ban for 0 days, of course
20:05 red-001 so a warning?
20:05 celeron55 it makes perfect sense as-is
20:06 benrob0329 does forum banning allow you to read still?
20:06 benrob0329 Aside from private windowing it
20:08 red-001 Jordach, I prefer 2^n
20:09 tenplus1 lol, builtin_item redo has some interesting effects...  items bounce along horz+vert on bouncy blocks, but in water it only bounces up :DDD
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20:37 tenplus1 wb Cal
20:44 Calinou back, VPS provider was having issues
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21:18 Fixer Clippy can be disabled
21:19 Fixer a lot of office workers remember him
21:21 Calinou I remember the dog in Windows XP search
21:21 Calinou and the magician, etc
21:21 Calinou do you? :D
21:21 Calinou these were my childhood
21:21 Calinou I always raged at them when they didn't find my files :(
21:23 benrob0329 I remember them
21:24 benrob0329 I also remember making a bouncing ball in Anim8or
21:29 Fixer Calinou: i remember dog too
21:30 VanessaE well, my survival server hit the top of the master server list again. yay!
21:32 Shara Congrats :)
21:32 VanessaE :D
21:32 Shara Looks like you have one of my regulars on there
21:32 VanessaE I do?
21:32 Shara Flitz (assuming it's the same Flitz)
21:32 Shara He's a good one.
21:32 VanessaE oh
21:32 VanessaE don't know him but cool
21:33 Shara He moderates on DL and builds some beautiful things.
21:33 Calinou DL?
21:33 VanessaE cool
21:34 Shara Dark lands
21:35 Shara My first attempt at a survival server :)
21:35 Fixer newest mt has textarea bug, i hope you enjoy it
21:35 VanessaE so file an issue?
21:35 Fixer filed
21:36 VanessaE ok.
21:37 Fixer VanessaE: 3.7 sec freeze on spawn :3
21:37 VanessaE yep.
21:37 VanessaE welcome to mesh gen lag spikes
21:37 VanessaE it's from entities being loaded I think
21:38 VanessaE signs, item frames, tubes objects
21:38 VanessaE tubed*
21:38 LazyJ Is MT still generating invisible entities due to a counting bug?
21:38 VanessaE LazyJ: yes
21:38 Fixer VanessaE: not mesh gen, Kaeza-sign-entity-gen
21:38 VanessaE no
21:38 LazyJ Heh. So constantly run "/clearobjects quick".
21:39 VanessaE LazyJ: actually that's what we do to keep the ghosts under control, yes
21:39 LazyJ Fun.
21:39 VanessaE Fixer: whatever the cause, it's the client being stupid.
21:39 Fixer VanessaE: it loads fuckton of entities
21:39 VanessaE Fixer: a hundred or so, maybe.
21:39 Fixer i pinpointed it to kaeza signs
21:40 LazyJ Ok, thanks for the confirmation, VanessaE.
21:40 VanessaE there are more item frames and tubed objects than there are signs
21:40 Fixer it was right before my eyes
21:40 Fixer huge freeze - appearing of signs
21:40 VanessaE Fixer: oh.  well maybe someone can find a fix.
21:41 VanessaE all the mod ever does is send a string to the client to render the sign text
21:41 VanessaE it's up to the client not to be stupid about it
21:41 VanessaE (i.e. the rendering ought to be done in a separate thread and fed to the display when available
21:41 VanessaE )
21:42 Fixer so much better with mesh gen interv 15 ms
21:42 Fixer amen
21:43 VanessaE of course, there should have been, years ago, a way to display text on a sign without the hacky entity method.
21:45 Fixer VanessaE: agree
21:45 Fixer VanessaE: should be in 0.4.17 :trollface:
21:46 VanessaE hah
21:46 Fixer VanessaE: no OOMs recently?
21:46 VanessaE no
21:46 VanessaE not that I've been made aware of anyway
21:47 Fixer VanessaE: btw https://i.imgur.com/hYemYgS.png
21:48 VanessaE punch it.
21:50 VanessaE (-4000, noted)
21:51 Fixer does not help
21:51 VanessaE usually that'll trigger a sign update.
21:51 * VanessaE shrugs
21:51 VanessaE kaeza: ^^ ^^
21:55 Fixer ._.
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23:06 red-001 hi foobar123
23:07 rubenwardy lol, that's me
23:08 red-001 lol
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