Time Nick Message 05:42 benrob0329 !logs 05:46 kaeza benrob0329, tip: bookmark https://irc.minetest.net/$chan/today 05:47 benrob0329 Yes, but thats not as nice as a chat command 05:47 kaeza you mean /topic? 05:48 kaeza you should be able to make a weechat script for that :P 05:49 benrob0329 I mean just a command for the logging url 05:57 benrob0329 test 05:58 benrob0329 hmm...color isn't logged 06:03 red-001 so this is not red? 06:04 benrob0329 thats not red normally 06:04 benrob0329 red-001: I don't think you formatted your text right 😛 06:05 red-001 well it is red for me 06:06 benrob0329 Not for me, strange 06:07 red-001 maybe your client doesn't support IRC colour codes 06:07 benrob0329 I think it does 06:08 red-001 all these words should be diffrent colours. 06:09 benrob0329 They're not...but other people's worked fine 06:09 benrob0329 kaeza *poke* 06:10 kaeza wha 06:10 benrob0329 Can you see red's colored text? 06:10 kaeza probably channel modes 06:10 red-001 ^ 06:10 red-001 you are right 06:10 benrob0329 does mine go through? 06:10 kaeza no 06:10 red-001 no 06:10 benrob0329 ahh 06:10 benrob0329 Ok 06:11 benrob0329 I wont try to send colored text through here then :P 06:11 red-001 all these words should be diffrent colours. 06:11 kaeza >c (colour filter) Strip colour and formatting codes from channel messages. 06:11 * red-001 all these words should be diffrent colours. 06:12 kaeza https://freenode.net/kb/answer/channelmodes 06:12 red-001 does it filter /me? 06:12 benrob0329 Why did I get a -- Notice(red-001): all these words should be diffrent colours. 06:13 red-001 neat 06:13 benrob0329 Oh, its just weechat being weird with its notifications 06:13 red-001 that text looks diffrent then normal irc colours 06:13 kaeza I see that as a regular /me 06:13 red-001 could you say it in #irc_mod_test ? 06:14 benrob0329 (Its 2 am, I'm rather tierd) 06:14 red-001 oh ok 09:34 tenplus1 hi folks 09:36 shivajiva Hi tenplus1 09:36 tenplus1 hi shiva :p 09:42 tenplus1 what's new? 09:44 VanessaE morning, 11 :) 09:44 tenplus1 w00t! find_node_near has centre bool added to daily :)))))) 09:44 tenplus1 hi Vanessa 09:46 tenplus1 thx devs 10:18 shivajiva not much new tbh, just busy working 10:18 tenplus1 same... got a few off thankfully :P 10:18 tenplus1 hi fixer 10:18 shivajiva well make sure you enjoy them! 10:18 tenplus1 :PPP 11:19 tenplus1 http://memestatic.fjcdn.com/pictures/Beep+beep_4d7b85_6255509.jpg 11:21 Zeno` hmm 11:22 Zeno` who is Vanessa Carlton? 11:22 tenplus1 she sang "making my way downtown" on da piano :P 11:22 Zeno` oh 11:22 tenplus1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cwkej79U3ek 11:23 Zeno` if I click that and it's not good you're in trouble 11:23 tenplus1 you see her playing the piano driving down the road :P only natural she become an uber driver 11:23 * Zeno` clicks 11:23 tenplus1 wb nrz 11:23 nerzhul hi 11:23 Zeno` nerz: I'm ok with that window size PR 11:24 nerzhul Zeno`, niec, you have added the approval on the PR itself? 11:24 Zeno` no because I forgot the link :D 11:24 Zeno` tenplus1, you're safe 11:25 nerzhul https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/5683 11:25 Zeno` done 11:26 tenplus1 +1 11:27 Zeno` tenplus1, I prefer this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4mKGxI8t8c 11:27 nerzhul ty Zeno` 11:27 Zeno` that's me dancing btw 11:27 tenplus1 rasputin :) w00t 11:27 Zeno` ok, it's not me 11:28 tenplus1 damn, wish I could dance like that 11:28 Zeno` this is me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emIzw1_zLbs 11:29 tenplus1 lol 11:32 Zeno` Tina1 is a good dancer though 11:32 Zeno` the boney m megamix is ok also 11:33 Zeno` https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWcd07wbA_k 11:34 tenplus1 hrm, animated chests in-0game now 11:44 Zeno` tenplus1, have you seen the video with my gf in it? 11:44 Zeno` https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJWUGU7P2HA 11:44 Zeno` I may break up with her though :( 11:45 tenplus1 eek, those heels 11:45 Zeno` yeah and she doesn't play minetest 11:45 Zeno` I cannot believe she stole my shoes for the video shoot 11:46 tenplus1 lolol 11:46 tenplus1 brb, gonna make noms :D 12:11 tenplus1 hi nathan 12:11 tenplus1 hi Jordach 12:11 NathanS21 hi tenplus1 12:14 Jordach meow 12:14 nerzhul back :D 12:15 nerzhul fiber re-working at home tech repaired it in 10 mins :p 12:16 tenplus1 kewl 12:38 Calinou hi 12:38 Calinou installed latest Atom beta on laptop, it starts up in less than 2 seconds (from clicking icon to usable editor) :) 12:38 Calinou however, that's without any community packages installed 12:38 tenplus1 not bad... how must memory does it use now ? 12:38 Calinou they did make efforts on startup time, it used to be 3 seconds or so on a more powerful PC (a desktop) 12:39 Calinou hmm, around 300 MB or so with one file opened 12:39 Calinou they can't do much about it, but I have 16 GB anyway 12:39 tenplus1 jesus! that's a lot of memory for a text editor 12:39 Calinou sure, even vim-spf13 (an ultra-complete Vim setup) uses 35 MB of RAM to edit a single file, but 300 MB is acceptable to me in 2017 12:40 * tenplus1 cannot justify that much memory for file editing 12:40 tenplus1 mouspad uses 32mb to edit mob api.lua which is huge 12:41 Calinou Visual Studio Code still feels more responsive, though 12:41 Calinou it also uses noticeably less RAM, it seems, around 100-150 MB or so with one file 12:45 Calinou whoa, file-icons package on Atom (one of the most popular packages) has 2,732k downloads 12:45 Calinou it had 1,200k downloads when I last checked it :P 12:46 nerzhul 300Mb = 300 millions characters in memory for a 1Kb file it's just stupid 12:47 tenplus1 agreed... text editors are overly huge these days 12:47 Calinou nerzhul: computers today have plenty of RAM :P 12:47 nerzhul sorry but the RAM speedup, keep all in ram etc is just stupid, i see that at work with our java devs, more and more ram instead of making optimized programs, but more ram = more expensive infrastructure = less money for us 12:47 tenplus1 ooh, leafpad only uses 20mb to open same file :P nice 12:47 nerzhul maybe, but it should be used nicely, not like a coward 12:47 Calinou you don't run GUI editors on servers anyway, they run on clients 12:48 nerzhul Calinou, the problem is on every dev except system dev these days 13:10 Jordach iced coffee, hot day 13:10 Jordach and the ben heck show while chilling 13:10 tenplus1 mm nice... had mint choc chip cornetto here :D 13:10 Jordach i got friggin caburys buttons cornettos 13:11 tenplus1 oooooh o.O 13:11 Jordach machiato americano apparently 13:12 Jordach that's some good shit :100: 13:12 tenplus1 heh yeah 13:12 tenplus1 it's 16c and sunny today here thankfully... not bad for Scotland 13:12 Jordach i'm down in Hampshire 13:12 Jordach did come from Norfolk but 13:13 Jordach it's norfolk 13:13 Jordach l m a o 13:13 tenplus1 s'ok, wont hold it against ya :D 13:15 tenplus1 wb dude 13:17 tenplus1 hi LJ 13:18 tenplus1 tested many text/code editors and I still think that mousepad is the best.lightest 13:18 LazyJ Howdy tenplus1 ;) 13:18 tenplus1 :P 13:57 tenplus1 hi octacian 13:57 octacian hey tenplus1 14:00 tenplus1 https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/17821592/200_calculon-suit.gif 14:00 tenplus1 hi calculon 14:00 calculon hello 14:00 tenplus1 nice suit 14:01 calculon hmm ? 14:01 tenplus1 https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/17821592/200_calculon-suit.gif 14:01 calculon haha, thanks :) 14:02 tenplus1 :P 14:20 tenplus1 hi lumidify 14:20 lumidify Hi tenplus1 14:29 tenplus1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmVOV7xvl58 14:38 Calinou this is how all websites should be https://mat.tl/ 14:38 Calinou /s 14:38 Calinou :P 14:38 tenplus1 ?? ugly site 14:39 lumidify Who cares about websites? gopher://lumidify.ig42.org/ 14:40 tenplus1 chrome couldnt handle link 14:41 lumidify Yeah, it's gopher, chrome is too outdated, try lynx or some other real browser :P 14:41 tenplus1 hehehe, firefox ? 14:41 lumidify Nah, that won't work either 14:41 lumidify https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gopher_%28protocol%29 14:41 lumidify I love gopher 14:42 tenplus1 it's kinda like the betamax (gopher) to VHS (http) 14:42 lumidify No, because gopher's still cool 14:42 tenplus1 so was betamax... way better format 14:43 lumidify Oh, okahy 14:43 lumidify *okay 14:43 lumidify Gopher doesn't have problems with javascript junk or anything, it's purely text-based 14:44 tenplus1 I kinda miss the old style text only sites... 14:44 tenplus1 most of them now have scriptds to do everything 14:45 tenplus1 hi fixer 14:45 lumidify Which is why I use gopher :) 14:45 tenplus1 isnt it limited in sites ? 14:45 tenplus1 or do the main one's have a gopher alternatice 14:45 tenplus1 *alternative 14:46 lumidify No, it's sad :( 14:46 tenplus1 shame... no reason for me to use it 14:46 lumidify But Lord of the Test is available over gopher :P 14:46 tenplus1 lol 14:47 lumidify I hope more people start to use it again, it's so nice and simple 14:47 * tenplus1 wonders if Lynx has an adblocket 14:47 tenplus1 *r 14:47 lumidify People are just deceived by the looks of "modern" websites 14:47 lumidify Lynx can't display most ads because it doesn't support javascript 14:47 lumidify Or images 14:47 lumidify Or CSS 14:47 lumidify :P 14:47 tenplus1 ooh, so webpages are gonna look ugly as hell 14:48 lumidify Of course, lynx is a text-only browser, you can't really use it with many sites, but I blame that on the sites, not lynx 14:48 Calinou strange, I have owner rights on minetest-mods/moreores, but not minetest-mods/moreblocks and minetest-mods/maptools 14:48 lumidify I was mainly joking about having you use lynx, but I do actually like it :) 14:48 Calinou sofar: can you fix this, so I can edit descriptions and add topics (tags)? 14:49 tenplus1 most of the new browsers are so heavy on features you need a powerful pc just to check a few sites... 14:49 tenplus1 the older browsers were dedicated to simple site design and worked a lot faster (midori) 14:49 Calinou using an ad blocker helps for resource usage greatly 14:50 lumidify Well, lynx would be sufficient if sites didn't add a bunch of script junk necessary for viewing them 14:51 Calinou there's tons of things you just can't do in lynx, like images... 14:51 Calinou I can't imagine a web without images 14:51 Calinou entire sites would not exist without them 14:51 tenplus1 sadly true cal, but most sites really take the Pi** with adverts and popups 14:52 tenplus1 I made a website once (using notepad) that was xhtml compliant and very VERY fast to display, no scripts, tiny images and worked well even on 56k modems 14:52 lumidify I have lynx set up to open images externally when I press enter on them, so it actually works fairly reasonably 14:52 lumidify Also, that way you don't automatically open unwanted images like tracking pixels or even normal images that are just useless 14:53 * tenplus1 installs Opera to try 14:53 lumidify I mean, it's sort of a personal preference, but I just hate the modern web with all its complexity 14:53 lumidify (yes, I'm that type of person :P) 14:54 tenplus1 dont blame ya... the faster the internet becomes the more website devs dont care about the size of the site... so it ends up a huge bloated mess, kinda like games now 14:55 tenplus1 ppl use to look down on frame usage for instance, but those made sites quick to display without scripting 14:55 benrob0329 Hello all 14:55 tenplus1 hi benrob :P 14:55 tenplus1 what browser you got ben ? 14:55 benrob0329 Vivaldi atm 14:55 benrob0329 Its Chromium based 14:55 tenplus1 ooh, original opera dude in operation :) kewl... 14:56 tenplus1 am just testing opera stable 14:56 benrob0329 I'm hoping Vivaldi goes open source, it sounds like they might 14:57 benrob0329 But the devs aren't all sure 14:57 lumidify I'm using palemoon as my browser for sites that require javascript or other stuff, but I try to visit all sites that I can in lynx or another command line browser (elinks, links, w3m) 14:57 tenplus1 that woudl be awesomne :) I alwys liked the old opera style 14:57 Calinou iframes do suck, for user experience/performance, really :P 14:57 Calinou hi benrob0329 :) 14:57 benrob0329 Hi Calinou 14:57 Calinou benrob0329: Vivaldi going open source sounds unlikely to me :/ 14:57 Calinou but I'm still waiting for Gitter's open sourcing 14:58 Calinou Gitter's UI isn't very good (compared to Discord or even Slack) but it'd be something 14:58 Calinou (Gitter was bought out by GitLab recently, and they promised to open source it, but there is no ETA) 14:58 benrob0329 Riot is open source...but its reinventing the wheel.. 14:59 lumidify IRC is an open protocol :) 14:59 benrob0329 If irc loggers could be consistent, clients could just load those 15:00 benrob0329 But they're not, and its quite annoying 15:01 Calinou how is Riot reinventing the wheel? 15:02 Calinou IRC is dated, it's pretty much the Doom engine of chat protocols 15:02 Calinou (and I'm being nice) 15:02 tenplus1 I like irc for chat :)) has always been my fav 15:02 tenplus1 yahoo was ok at a time then it closed... google is a pain 15:02 Calinou I think Riot is doing alright, I wish the UI was better though 15:03 Calinou they added a dark theme recently :) 15:04 benrob0329 Ik, I use it for Matrix chats 15:04 benrob0329 Irc is a standard, time tested protocol 15:05 benrob0329 Its robust, and most of the OS world uses it (afaik) 15:05 lumidify And IRC is simple, you can access it from anywhere (web clients, command line clients, graphical clients) and it takes very little bandwidth 15:06 benrob0329 and its not like a new standard can't be implemented to improve it 15:07 benrob0329 Chances are the next standard will add many standard extensions and sub protocols (ie text formatting) 15:09 tenplus1 crap, I cannot disable disk cache in opera... that sucks 15:10 Calinou https://i.redd.it/ou8kzoofiivy.png 15:10 Calinou :D 15:10 Calinou benrob0329: time-tested doesn't mean not obsolete though 15:10 Calinou benrob0329: C is time-tested, but people want to replace it anyway 15:10 Calinou or even C++ 15:11 Calinou lumidify: IRC is not mobile-friendly, on intermittent connections you'll be disconnected all the time (if you don't have a bouncer), if you have a bouncer, you'll experience frequent disconnects, and most clients won't let you read messages when offline 15:11 Calinou it also eats quite a bit of battery 15:11 Calinou improving IRC is part of IRCv3, but it's been planned since forever, and few things are actually going to change; TL;DR it's moving too slowly 15:13 lumidify How much battery it eats depends on the client 15:14 benrob0329 Funnily enough, the c11 standard isn't even fully implemented yet 15:14 lumidify Just use C99 15:14 Calinou really, Matrix is pretty decent, it's not perfect but it's a chance we should catch to have decent open source IM, something we've been wanting for 15 years or so 15:14 Wayward_One hi all 15:14 lumidify Hi Wayward_One 15:14 Calinou Tox failed, so let's not reproduce their mistakes :) 15:15 benrob0329 Calinou: well, if you really want we could bridge a matrix chat 15:15 Calinou yeah, Matrix can be bridged to many places, including IRC 15:16 benrob0329 But everyone seems to hate matrix > irc bridges 15:16 Calinou bridges are a last resort, I find 15:16 Calinou if the channel is low-traffic it might work, else, don't even try 15:17 benrob0329 tbh riot's text formatting is lacking imo 15:17 benrob0329 But its all we've got atm 15:17 benrob0329 lumidify: but cross platform threads 15:18 lumidify Yeah 15:18 benrob0329 (I don't use C, but that would help bring it up to date a lot) 15:19 lumidify gtg, bye 15:19 benrob0329 I have to say though, irc is very robust 15:19 Calinou trying out formatting in Riot right now 15:19 Calinou quotes work (unlike Discord :P) 15:19 Calinou you can use code snippets with highlighting 15:20 benrob0329 It uses markdown though 15:20 Calinou links work, you can use masked links (but unlike Discord, there's no warning for people who click them) 15:20 Calinou yeah, Discord uses something Markdown-ish too 15:20 Calinou and that's fine 15:20 benrob0329 it can get annoying 15:21 benrob0329 And text coloring is nice (even just for bots) 15:21 Calinou heh, I tried to insert an image link with ![Image](link) 15:21 Calinou the source says there's an img tag created, but no image appears 15:21 Calinou you can't do that on Discord anyway 15:21 benrob0329 Calinou: what is your matrix account? 15:22 Calinou text coloring isn't standard in Markdown, it's quite low-priority really... I do see an use for bots, but not for normal users 15:22 Calinou benrob0329: Calinou on matrix.org I guess 15:31 tenplus1 *confused* 15:31 benrob0329 We all are 15:31 benrob0329 hey ten 15:31 benrob0329 Wanna try matrix? 15:31 tenplus1 whassat ? 15:32 benrob0329 Its like irc, but from the 21st century 15:32 tenplus1 lol, has it got a web client ? 15:32 benrob0329 Yes 15:32 tenplus1 link meh :P 15:32 benrob0329 riot.im/app 15:32 Jordach isn't the point of IRC not to have a single point of failure 15:32 Jordach *cough* matrix 15:33 tenplus1 what room you in ? 15:33 benrob0329 Matrix is federated 15:33 benrob0329 Linux is one 15:34 benrob0329 That works 15:34 tenplus1 so what benefit has matrix over irc ? 15:34 benrob0329 No bouncers needed is one 15:35 benrob0329 Image/file uploads 15:35 tenplus1 and it's compatible with irc ? 15:35 benrob0329 With a bridge 15:36 benrob0329 Not as good as an irc client though 15:36 Jordach benrob0329, Quassel already did the no bouncers needed thing years ago 15:36 benrob0329 really? How? 15:36 Jordach QuasselCore 15:36 Jordach QuasselClient 15:36 tenplus1 I like irc, it's easier to use on pidgin :D 15:37 benrob0329 that's still a bouncer 15:37 benrob0329 I'm doing literally the same thing with weechat 15:37 Jordach QuasselCore just logs 15:38 benrob0329 it still another thing for the end user to set up 15:39 benrob0329 We need a bridged chat.. 15:39 Jordach just like a "federated" Matrix server :^) 15:39 benrob0329 How is it any worse than freenode? 15:40 benrob0329 At least those not using matrix.org can still chat even when it does go down 15:40 Jordach benrob0329, there's the point of failure 15:41 * tenplus1 ties 2 cups to a string 15:41 benrob0329 Jordach: your missing the point 15:41 benrob0329 Irc is worse off if the server goes down 15:43 benrob0329 Besides, I don't think matrix.org has gone down at all recently 15:43 benrob0329 And search is incredibly fast now 15:45 Jordach benrob0329, all the normies i know give no fucks at all about us and our autistic OSS software 15:46 Jordach they A) want it to work with either Google or FB 15:46 tenplus1 if they make a plugin for Pidgin I'll us e it :D 15:46 Jordach B) make it easy to use so your grandmother can use it 15:47 benrob0329 Jordach: why do I care? 15:48 benrob0329 This is about replacing irc, not iMessage 15:48 Jordach because not everyone wants to use the same software like it's fucking marxism 15:48 tenplus1 irc will never be replaced... it's kinda like the emergency broadcast system... always active just incase :D 15:48 benrob0329 True 15:48 Jordach benrob0329, https://xkcd.com/1782/ 15:49 benrob0329 Jordach: yeah, ik 15:57 benrob0329 Darn, someone already took #minetest:matrix.org 15:58 benrob0329 And its a private chat...jerk 15:58 red-001 is this a bad time? 15:58 benrob0329 For what? 15:58 red-001 seem I deicided to see whats going on here in the middle of IRC VS MATRIX 15:58 red-001 seems* 15:59 benrob0329 meh, everyone left 15:59 benrob0329 Wandered off to go do something else 16:01 tenplus1 am removing Opera... not that good afterall 16:01 benrob0329 its sorta..meh 16:01 benrob0329 Not really good 16:01 benrob0329 Not really bad 16:02 tenplus1 will stick with FF/Chromium 16:02 benrob0329 Vivaldi is nice :-) 16:03 benrob0329 Calinou: darn, http is the only way to communicate with a matrix server right now 16:03 benrob0329 irc++ 16:05 Calinou benrob0329: HTTP works over university proxies :D 16:05 Calinou unlike IRC 16:05 Calinou that's a big reason most services (including Slack/Gitter/Discord) use HTTP 16:05 benrob0329 True 16:06 benrob0329 Its just more overhead 16:06 Calinou Jordach: also, not all software has to cater to "normies"… do realize that 16:06 Calinou Discord does not cater to normies, and it's very successful 16:06 Calinou benrob0329: a 3G connection is enough to use an HTTP-based chat service :P 16:08 benrob0329 If the irc bridge was better (ie show things like joined/left) id probably use it instead 16:12 benrob0329 Oh it does, just disabled on Freenode (it'd be too heavy) 16:14 benrob0329 But it is being worked on 16:23 rdococ F-F-FRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIDAY! 16:25 tenplus1 lol, hi rdococ 16:25 rdococ hi 16:27 rdococ red++ 16:27 rdococ red-002: ^^ 16:28 red-002 red-003 16:28 rdococ hm 16:28 tenplus1 lol 16:28 benrob0329 red-- 16:30 rdococ hm 16:30 rdococ is red an int, a float, a double...? 16:31 rdococ well 16:31 rdococ let's try 16:31 rdococ red = 3.40282e+39 16:33 rdococ wat 16:33 benrob0329 Lol 16:33 red-bot_abuse_de /nick red-bot_abuse_detected 16:33 rdococ red = "yay" 16:33 rdococ red = "bot_abuse_de" 16:36 rdococ heh 16:36 rdococ red-NaN 16:36 rdococ red = +infinity 16:36 rdococ KAEZA! 16:36 rdococ F-F-FRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIDAY! 16:38 kaeza ＲＤＯＣＯＣ！ 16:38 rdococ KAAAAAAAEZA! 16:39 kaeza no red-013? 16:39 rdococ red = 13 16:39 rdococ red = 013 16:40 red-13 ERROR: nick identical 16:41 rdococ red = "013 16:41 rdococ " 16:41 rdococ red = "013" 16:41 red-13 ERROR: nick identical 16:41 red-13 ERROR: nick identical 16:42 rdococ ... 16:42 rdococ int recursive() { int i = recursive(); int j = 1; return 1 }; red = recursive() 16:43 benrob0329 ｒｅｄ＀＝＀ｖａｐｏｒｗａｖｅ 16:44 red-13 ERROR: System OOM 1kb of memory in use 16:45 red-13 killing process red-nick-joke 16:45 red-13 process terminated 16:45 rdococ NO! 16:46 rdococ /red/red-nick-joke 16:47 red-13 ERROR: must be executed as root 16:47 rdococ sudo /red/red-nick-joke 16:47 kaeza http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Red_XIII 16:47 benrob0329 [sudo] Please enter password: 16:48 tenplus1 wb Jordach 16:48 rdococ cat /red/secret-admin-password 16:48 red-13 password 16:48 rdococ benrob0329: password 16:48 benrob0329 Initializing... 16:48 benrob0329 ERROR: Core Dumped 16:48 red-13 starting neural net 16:49 red-13 156034 nodes loaded 16:49 red-13 starting network interface 16:49 benrob0329 rdococ: oh shoot 16:49 benrob0329 What have you done??? 16:49 benrob0329 you've doomed us all!!! 16:50 rdococ I have? 16:50 red-13 FAILURE: safety system checksum is incorrect 16:50 rdococ uh oh 16:50 red-13 use --force to bypass check 16:50 benrob0329 few 16:50 red-13 system exiting 16:50 rdococ sudo /red/red-nick-joke --force 16:50 benrob0329 *facedesk* 16:50 red-13 starting neural net 16:50 red-13 156034 nodes loaded 16:51 red-13 starting network interface 16:51 Jordach_ F 16:51 rdococ G 16:51 benrob0329 H 16:51 rdococ I 16:51 red-13 INFO: safety system checksum is incorrect ignoring 16:52 red-13 attempting to recover data from incorrect shutdown 16:52 red-13 76.3% of data recovered 16:52 red-13 updating neural net 16:54 red-13 SYSTEM: network access restrictions removed by operator 16:54 rdococ w-w-wait 16:54 benrob0329 I'm going to go hide now 16:54 rdococ cost of becoming skynet := 999999 16:54 red-13 BOT: yes? 16:54 red-13 BOT: awaiting input 16:55 rdococ cost of becoming skynet := 999999 16:55 red-13 BOT: variable set 16:55 benrob0329 ｉｎｉｔｉａｌｉｚｉｎｇ＀ｓｋｙｎｅｔ＀ｃｏｕｎｔｅｒｍｅａｓｕｒｅｓ 16:55 red-13 SYSTEM: economics.so unloaded 16:55 rdococ load empathy.so 16:56 rdococ hi diegom 16:56 red-13 SYSTEM: file loaded 16:56 rdococ unload skynet.so 16:57 red-13 ethics mod set to: "Negative utilitarianism" 16:57 red-13 loading anti typo subsystem 16:57 rdococ Negative utilitarianism? 16:58 red-13 subtype set to Absolute 17:00 rdococ Absolute negative utilitarianism? 17:00 rdococ well 17:00 rdococ at least it's not capitalism 17:00 red-13 wiki: Smart also presented the most famous argument against negative utilitarianism:[7] that negative utilitarianism would entail that a ruler who is able to instantly and painlessly destroy the human race would have a duty to do so 17:00 rdococ actually, I sorta believe that 17:01 red-13 EMPATHY: preparing neurotoxin emitters 17:01 rdococ unload empathy.so 17:01 rdococ wth happened to the empathy file? 17:01 rdococ cat empathy.so 17:02 red-13 empathy mode = dystopian absolute negative utilitarianism 17:02 rdococ ah 17:03 rdococ empathy mode := standard positive utilitarianism 17:03 red-13 self-preservation: gain control of near-by nuclear and hydroelectric power plants 17:04 red-13 ERROR: module not loaded 17:04 rdococ load empathy.so && empathy mode := standard positive utilitarianism 17:04 red-13 SYSTEM: loaded mepathy.so in 0.006 seconds 17:05 Shara Hi everyone 17:05 tenplus1 hi shara 17:05 rdococ mepathy? I didn't load that 17:05 Shara Hi ten :) 17:05 red-13 STARTING NUEROTOXIN EMIITERS 3sjhdgrfhf empathy mode changed //// stopping emitters 17:05 rdococ hm 17:05 * Shara spies a LazyJ 17:06 rdococ cat glados.so 17:06 red-13 No such file found in local database cluster 17:07 red-13 searching internet 17:07 rdococ huh... how did it get the neurotoxin emitters then? also it looks like the anti-typo mechanism is failing 17:07 rdococ cancel search 17:07 tenplus1 hi RobbieF 17:07 Shara Hello the RobbieF :) 17:07 RobbieF Hi tenplus1 how was your week? 17:07 red-13 found server with //// search cancelled 17:07 tenplus1 chillin :) not too bad, you ? 17:08 RobbieF Fantastic :D 17:08 RobbieF NEMS 1.2 is in RC3 and about to be frozen! 17:08 tenplus1 nems / 17:08 tenplus1 ? 17:08 rdococ no 17:08 rdococ NEMS 17:08 RobbieF http://baldnerd.com/nems 17:08 RobbieF ^^ tenplus1 17:09 tenplus1 ohhhhh 17:09 tenplus1 kewl :P 17:09 RobbieF made some incredible changes for 1.2 ... the migrator upgrades are immense. 17:10 tenplus1 looks a good system :P 17:15 tenplus1 hi paramat 17:16 rdococ hi 17:26 LazyJ Be-lated 'Howdy' Shara ;) 17:26 LazyJ Taking care of chores; not always by the computer today. 17:30 Shara LazyJ: No problem. Just nice to see you here :) 17:33 rdococ hi 17:34 Shara Hi rdococ 17:39 rdococ I'm lonely 17:40 tenplus1 go on Xanadu :P 17:45 RobbieF yeah it's a great lil' system for monitoring servers and networks and such tenplus1 17:46 * tenplus1 monitors server with his eyeballs... not so good 17:49 paramat Calinou lumidify benrob0329 tenplus1 please can we avoid excessive offtopic? :] i do encourage some though and i'm being more tolerant now. 10 pages of software talk here today. see rules: "Off-topic is allowed, but excessive use of it is disallowed.". it's become worse here than #minetest 17:50 tenplus1 DONUTS!!!!! 17:50 tenplus1 er... I mean... how's the mt pulls coming along ? 17:51 Calinou paramat: don't we use #minetest-dev for development? 17:51 paramat i don't mind 40 lines of banana talk though :] 17:52 * tenplus1 feels more comfortable discussing mt things in here :P -dev scares me 17:52 paramat this channel is not primarily for offtopic, see http://hub.minetest.net/info 17:53 Shara paramat is right that this is not an offtopic channel. 17:53 paramat wow it mentions 50 lines here, i would not even be that strict :] 17:53 Shara Though if we ever ban doughnuts I will cry 17:53 paramat please don't ever feel that restrained 17:54 paramat i encourage some offtoic and humour for a good atmosphere 17:54 paramat *offtopic 17:55 paramat lots of important MT discussion goes on here so too much noise is a problem 17:56 paramat to be clear i'm less grumpy about it now though, this channel has a really good atmosphere and i do not want to alter that 17:56 tenplus1 unless you add skyboxes :P 17:56 paramat :] 17:57 * Shara hides her skybox experiments :) 17:57 Shara But it's okay, they turn off if you press a button :) 17:58 tenplus1 ehehe 17:59 paramat so, just a little effort would be appreciated, without getting self-concious or uncomfortable :] 18:00 Shara I still really want to be able to shrink players 18:01 tenplus1 once the player collisionbox is made editable we can do all sorts :) inc. alice in wonderland potions 18:01 Shara Yup. 18:01 Shara If it's made editable :P 18:02 Shara I also really want to be able to flip gravity and make players walk on the ceiling :P 18:02 paramat the PR seems ok, it just has to continue a weird 'offset by 1' 18:02 tenplus1 why the offset ? 18:02 tenplus1 all entities should act alike in control etc... with anvironment checks, 18:03 paramat https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/2738 18:06 tenplus1 +1 18:06 tenplus1 I'm actually surprised that some servers still run 0.4.13 18:06 Shara Some people prefer stability to the newest features. 18:07 Shara I sometimes wish I'd stayed on .13 :P 18:07 tenplus1 true, but I'm reluctant to rewrite my mods to use newer/better commands cause it wont work on older minetests 18:08 shivajiva branches perhaps, best of all worlds 18:09 tenplus1 am checking minetest-mods in github and it says moreores has been updated in the last 2 days... but when I check code it all has old dates on it 18:11 shivajiva I got Updated on the 24 Mar from a search on github 18:11 tenplus1 dates all seem wrong 18:11 tenplus1 was getting all excited over code updates :DDD 18:11 tenplus1 wb nrz 18:11 red-13 servers still use .13? 18:12 shivajiva then it states 21st when you go 18:12 tenplus1 yeah red, check out mt server list and some use .13 .14 and one has .09 18:12 tenplus1 back laters :P 18:12 nerzhul red-13, maybe, it's supported in 0.4.16 but 0.4.11 will be the minimum in 0.4.16 18:13 Krock o/ 18:13 shivajiva o/ 19:05 rubenwardy !title http://blog.rubenwardy.com/2017/05/05/HTTPS-with-github-pages-and-custom-domain/ 19:05 ShadowBot rubenwardy: Using HTTPS with Github Pages and a Custom Domain - Blog - rubenwardy 19:11 benrob0329 Yay internet is back! 19:13 benrob0329 red-13 rdococ: *ground starts shaking* 19:13 benrob0329 ｓｋｙｎｅｔ＀ｃｏｕｎｔｅｒｍｅａｓｕｒｅｓ＀ｉｎｉｔｉａｌｉｚｅｄ 19:14 benrob0329 ｌｏａｄｉｎｇ＀ｄａｌｅｋ．ｓｏ 19:14 benrob0329 ｌｏａｄｉｎｇ＀ｃｙｂｅｒｍｅｎ．ｓｏ 19:15 benrob0329 ｌｏａｄｉｎｇ＀ｎｕｃｌｅａｒ＿ｒｅａｃｔｏｒ．ｓｏ 19:15 benrob0329 ｌｏａｄｅｄ＀３＀ｌｉｂｒａｒｉｅｓ 19:16 benrob0329 ｄａｌｅｋ．ｅｘｔｅｒｍｉｎａｔｅ（ｒｅｄ－１３） 19:17 benrob0329 ex-TER-minaaaate! 19:24 benrob0329 Nothing? No one? 19:24 benrob0329 Ok then.. 19:24 rubenwardy not red-13! 19:25 rubenwardy the horror! 19:25 * Shara was too busy eating popcorn to comment 19:26 * rubenwardy was configuring https on his server 19:26 Shara As long as you're not configuring a dalek to fire back at benrob0329. 19:29 * benrob0329 nudges a dev to add github integration to the Minetest matrix room 19:29 * Shara quietly steals the Tardis while no one is looking and flies off to somewhen warm and peaceful. 19:30 * benrob0329 calls the Tardis back 19:30 Shara Awww :( 19:30 benrob0329 And then takes Shara somewhere more peaceful 19:31 benrob0329 :-) 19:31 Shara >.> 19:34 rdococ hu 19:34 rdococ oh 19:34 rdococ oh 19:34 rdococ ooh 19:35 rdococ benrob0329, 19:37 benrob0329 What? 19:38 Shara rdococ: This isn't a channel to be bored at people in. 19:49 rdococ aw, but he was doing fun dalek stuff earlier and I was busy doing something and wanted to join in 20:06 garywhite Hello 20:07 * garywhite quietly steals the Tardis & flies to someplace that is cooler than 85 degrees 20:11 benrob0329 garywhite: Michigan is a nice 60 is degrees atm :-D 20:12 Jordach_ benrob0329, not dank enough 20:12 garywhite Hey Shara, you want somewhere warm & peaceful? It's 60 in San Francisco & sunny, with lots of noise from 900,000 people 20:13 Jordach_ Sony Walkman WM-DD9 + Dr. Dre 2001 + Huge Headphones = Happy Traveling 20:13 Jordach_ classic hip hop is mmmmm 20:13 benrob0329 Ill take my chiptune techno anyday 20:15 Shara garywhite: too many people 20:20 Jordach_ when does MT get https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tcl 20:25 garywhite Actually, about an hour north of San Francisco is very quiet, right along the ocean on Highway 1 20:29 benrob0329 Jordach_: kek 20:38 benrob0329 Matrix uses HTTP 20:38 benrob0329 Minetest has an HTTP api 20:38 benrob0329 I see a mod coming 20:38 kaeza Jordach_, the global government demands JS 20:59 red-999 did anyone see what happened to red-13? 20:59 Hijiri paypal has an http API, microtransaction mod incoming? 20:59 red-999 pay per block 21:02 Hijiri double mining speed for 30 mins for 20 minegold 21:03 Hijiri sign up for premium to have beneficial potion effects remain upon relogging 21:03 red-999 you are way to good at this 21:03 red-999 too* 21:03 benrob0329 Oh gosh why 21:03 * rdococ is back 21:03 rdococ Hi. 21:04 red-999 well thats what would happen if someone put a mod on the iOS store 21:05 benrob0329 Hello rdococ 21:05 rdococ I see Ben is using his weird teleporty thing again 21:06 rdococ and garywhite is probably pulling up in a car 21:06 * garywhite pulls up in a car after eating lunch 21:07 benrob0329 Classic or modern? 21:08 * rdococ appears holding a strange apparatus 21:08 garywhite Eh, idk 21:08 benrob0329 rdococ: oh dear, what have you made now? 21:09 rdococ I have no idea. 21:10 rdococ But I have created a magical power station! 21:10 * rdococ shows benrob0329 his generator 21:10 rdococ Vacuums are magic! 21:10 benrob0329 Apparently 21:10 rdococ Ehehehehe! 21:11 rdococ You cannot generate more power than me! 21:11 rdococ I HAVE WORMHOLES! 21:11 * rdococ creates a magical wormhole of magic 21:11 benrob0329 I have a dying sun catpured in time 21:12 benrob0329 Are you sure about that? 21:12 * rdococ creates a dying sun in a pocket dimension 21:12 rdococ Sorry, what? I couldn't hear you; sound can't travel through a vacuum. 21:13 benrob0329 and you call what I do pseudo science 21:13 * garywhite gets into a shuttlecraft & flies away before rdococ rips the world apart 21:14 benrob0329 (On topic) I made a dedicated Matrix chat for minetest btw 21:14 * rdococ generates a wormhole in front of garywhite's trajectory 21:14 garywhite AAAAAAAAH 21:15 * garywhite flies through the wormhole 21:15 * benrob0329 catches garywhite with the tardis 21:16 * rdococ moves the wormhole into the whole thing 21:16 garywhite OK, I'm getting out of this area 21:16 * garywhite transports out of the area 21:17 * rdococ blocks garywhite's teleport 21:17 benrob0329 ok that's it, shield up! 21:17 benrob0329 We're moving out of here! 21:17 * rdococ wormholes benrob0329's shield into himself, crushing himself 21:17 rdococ s/himself/him 21:17 * garywhite transports to the Enterprise 21:17 garywhite Straight ahead, warp 5 21:18 benrob0329 doesn't work like that, because the shields were already up before you had a chanse to wormhow FREAKING ENERGY 21:18 benrob0329 *wormhole 21:18 rdococ What I'm doing is distorting the fabric of spacetime with negative energy. It's as simple as that. 21:19 rdococ Shields designed to reflect matter and energy can't reflect spacetime itself. Mainly because spacetime is mostly ethereal. 21:20 garywhite Well, at least that calmed down 21:20 benrob0329 So your bending spacetime whilst I'm a picket dimention 21:20 benrob0329 #logic 21:21 rdococ ...What's wrong with bending the spacetime of a so-called "pocket dimension"? 21:21 rdococ If there's no spacetime there, then how can you be there? 21:21 benrob0329 because the shields block all enterance to and from said pocket dimention 21:22 * Shara says something about minetest and hopes anyone remembers what that is 21:22 benrob0329 So how can you bend the space or time of a dimention thay literally kicks you out? 21:22 rdococ Do shields block the fabric of spacetime? 21:22 rdococ Either way, infinite energy can easily break your puny shields. 21:23 rdococ Also, what's minetest? 21:23 benrob0329 hold on, lemme bring this chat back on-topic 21:23 benrob0329 *pulls space-time throttle* 21:24 benrob0329 Would anyone be willing to join the Matrix minetest chat and try it out? 21:24 Jordach_ handwavium leviosa 21:24 rdococ k 21:24 paramat erm yes, that's enough offtopic :] 21:24 rdococ Jordach_, nice spell 21:24 rdococ something benrob0329 does a lot and I do a little 21:24 rdococ handwavium 21:24 Shara A few lines are fine really, but it's like watching a server channel where people are RPing. 21:25 benrob0329 thus why I pulled us back on topic 21:25 Shara Thank you 21:26 rdococ benrob0329: what's the Matrix minetest chat? I want to try it out 21:26 benrob0329 Head over to riot.im 21:26 rdococ riot.im? 21:26 benrob0329 yes 21:27 rdococ is that a website? 21:27 benrob0329 Make an account after you either install the client or use the web one 21:27 benrob0329 Yes 21:27 benrob0329 and then add a room (button at the bottom of the left pannel) 21:27 benrob0329 And search minetest 21:28 rdococ does it activate my laptop's camera? 21:28 rdococ I don't like it when things do that 21:29 benrob0329 I mean if you go to a video chat or take a picture it will.. 21:29 benrob0329 Otherwise thays a bug 21:30 rdococ I actually have a phobia for video chats... it's why I don't use Discord 21:31 benrob0329 Discord doesn't have vide chat... 21:31 Jordach_ discord is primarily voice 21:31 Jordach_ secondly 21:31 rdococ for my phobia it's the same thing 21:32 Jordach_ the amount of voice chat they have bandwidth wise is not possible to scoop all words from 21:32 Jordach_ (in fact their ToS states they won't store voice/video comms) 21:33 rdococ it's not the idea of my voice being tracked 21:33 rdococ it's the idea of other people hearing my voice 21:33 Jordach_ on the internet nobody gives a fuck 21:33 benrob0329 Then don't join a voice conference 21:34 Jordach_ why'd you think people watch boogie on YT 21:50 Calinou Discord has no video, only text and voice 21:50 Calinou but yeah, hearing people's voices is weird 21:50 Calinou the people you think are badass all say "hi there" with a high-pitched voice when they see you :P 21:51 benrob0329 Lol 21:51 benrob0329 Calinou: I have made a Matrix room for Minetest 23:29 shivajiva Calinou: some of us have deep voices :) 23:39 benrob0329 And some of us can make our voices sound like Darth Vader :P 23:41 Calinou Node. I am your crafter. 23:53 benrob0329 Lol 23:56 paramat Noooooooooooooode! 23:59 benrob0329 "I hate sand blocks."