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05:42 benrob0329 !logs
05:46 kaeza benrob0329, tip: bookmark https://irc.minetest.net/$chan/today
05:47 benrob0329 Yes, but thats not as nice as a chat command
05:47 kaeza you mean /topic?
05:48 kaeza you should be able to make a weechat script for that :P
05:49 benrob0329 I mean just a command for the logging url
05:57 benrob0329 test
05:58 benrob0329 hmm...color isn't logged
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06:03 red-001 so this is not red?
06:04 benrob0329 thats not red normally
06:04 benrob0329 red-001: I don't think you formatted your text right 😛
06:05 red-001 well it is red for me
06:06 benrob0329 Not for me, strange
06:07 red-001 maybe your client doesn't support IRC colour codes
06:07 benrob0329 I think it does
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06:08 red-001 all  these  words  should  be  diffrent  colours.
06:09 benrob0329 They're not...but other people's worked fine
06:09 benrob0329 kaeza *poke*
06:10 kaeza wha
06:10 benrob0329 Can you see red's colored text?
06:10 kaeza probably channel modes
06:10 red-001 ^
06:10 red-001 you are right
06:10 benrob0329 does mine go through?
06:10 kaeza no
06:10 red-001 no
06:10 benrob0329 ahh
06:10 benrob0329 Ok
06:11 benrob0329 I wont try to send colored text through here then :P
06:11 red-001 all  these  words  should  be  diffrent  colours.
06:11 kaeza >c (colour filter) Strip colour and formatting codes from channel messages.
06:11 * red-001 all  these  words  should  be  diffrent  colours.
06:12 kaeza https://freenode.net/kb/answer/channelmodes
06:12 red-001 does it filter /me?
06:12 benrob0329 Why did I get a -- Notice(red-001):  all  these  words  should  be  diffrent  colours.
06:13 red-001 neat
06:13 benrob0329 Oh, its just weechat being weird with its notifications
06:13 red-001 that  text looks diffrent then normal irc colours
06:13 kaeza I see that as a regular /me
06:13 red-001 could you say it in #irc_mod_test ?
06:14 benrob0329 (Its 2 am, I'm rather tierd)
06:14 red-001 oh ok
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09:34 tenplus1 hi folks
09:36 shivajiva Hi tenplus1
09:36 tenplus1 hi shiva :p
09:42 tenplus1 what's new?
09:44 VanessaE morning, 11 :)
09:44 tenplus1 w00t! find_node_near has centre bool added to daily :))))))
09:44 tenplus1 hi Vanessa
09:46 tenplus1 thx devs
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10:18 shivajiva not much new tbh, just busy working
10:18 tenplus1 same... got a few off thankfully :P
10:18 tenplus1 hi fixer
10:18 shivajiva well make sure you enjoy them!
10:18 tenplus1 :PPP
11:19 tenplus1 http://memestatic.fjcdn.com/pictu​res/Beep+beep_4d7b85_6255509.jpg
11:21 Zeno` hmm
11:22 Zeno` who is Vanessa Carlton?
11:22 tenplus1 she sang "making my way downtown" on da piano :P
11:22 Zeno` oh
11:22 tenplus1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cwkej79U3ek
11:23 Zeno` if I click that and it's not good you're in trouble
11:23 tenplus1 you see her playing the piano driving down the road :P only natural she become an uber driver
11:23 * Zeno` clicks
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11:23 tenplus1 wb nrz
11:23 nerzhul hi
11:23 Zeno` nerz: I'm ok with that window size PR
11:24 nerzhul Zeno`, niec, you have added the approval on the PR itself?
11:24 Zeno` no because I forgot the link :D
11:24 Zeno` tenplus1, you're safe
11:25 nerzhul https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/5683
11:25 Zeno` done
11:26 tenplus1 +1
11:27 Zeno` tenplus1, I prefer this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4mKGxI8t8c
11:27 nerzhul ty Zeno`
11:27 Zeno` that's me dancing btw
11:27 tenplus1 rasputin :) w00t
11:27 Zeno` ok, it's not me
11:28 tenplus1 damn, wish I could dance like that
11:28 Zeno` this is me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emIzw1_zLbs
11:29 tenplus1 lol
11:32 Zeno` Tina1 is a good dancer though
11:32 Zeno` the boney m megamix is ok also
11:33 Zeno` https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWcd07wbA_k
11:34 tenplus1 hrm, animated chests in-0game now
11:44 Zeno` tenplus1, have you seen the video with my gf in it?
11:44 Zeno` https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJWUGU7P2HA
11:44 Zeno` I may break up with her though :(
11:45 tenplus1 eek, those heels
11:45 Zeno` yeah and she doesn't play minetest
11:45 Zeno` I cannot believe she stole my shoes for the video shoot
11:46 tenplus1 lolol
11:46 tenplus1 brb, gonna make noms :D
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12:11 tenplus1 hi nathan
12:11 tenplus1 hi Jordach
12:11 NathanS21 hi tenplus1
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12:14 Jordach meow
12:14 nerzhul back :D
12:15 nerzhul fiber re-working at home tech repaired it in 10 mins :p
12:16 tenplus1 kewl
12:38 Calinou hi
12:38 Calinou installed latest Atom beta on laptop, it starts up in less than 2 seconds (from clicking icon to usable editor) :)
12:38 Calinou however, that's without any community packages installed
12:38 tenplus1 not bad... how must memory does it use now ?
12:38 Calinou they did make efforts on startup time, it used to be 3 seconds or so on a more powerful PC (a desktop)
12:39 Calinou hmm, around 300 MB or so with one file opened
12:39 Calinou they can't do much about it, but I have 16 GB anyway
12:39 tenplus1 jesus! that's a lot of memory for a text editor
12:39 Calinou sure, even vim-spf13 (an ultra-complete Vim setup) uses 35 MB of RAM to edit a single file, but 300 MB is acceptable to me in 2017
12:40 * tenplus1 cannot justify that much memory for file editing
12:40 tenplus1 mouspad uses 32mb to edit mob api.lua which is huge
12:41 Calinou Visual Studio Code still feels more responsive, though
12:41 Calinou it also uses noticeably less RAM, it seems, around 100-150 MB or so with one file
12:45 Calinou whoa, file-icons package on Atom (one of the most popular packages) has 2,732k downloads
12:45 Calinou it had 1,200k downloads when I last checked it :P
12:46 nerzhul 300Mb = 300 millions characters in memory for a 1Kb file it's just stupid
12:47 tenplus1 agreed... text editors are overly huge these days
12:47 Calinou nerzhul: computers today have plenty of RAM :P
12:47 nerzhul sorry but the RAM speedup, keep all in ram etc is just stupid, i see that at work with our java devs, more and more ram instead of making optimized programs, but more ram = more expensive infrastructure = less money for us
12:47 tenplus1 ooh, leafpad only uses 20mb to open same file :P nice
12:47 nerzhul maybe, but it should be used nicely, not like a coward
12:47 Calinou you don't run GUI editors on servers anyway, they run on clients
12:48 nerzhul Calinou, the problem is on every dev except system dev these days
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13:10 Jordach iced coffee, hot day
13:10 Jordach and the ben heck show while chilling
13:10 tenplus1 mm nice...  had mint choc chip cornetto here :D
13:10 Jordach i got friggin caburys buttons cornettos
13:11 tenplus1 oooooh o.O
13:11 Jordach machiato americano apparently
13:12 Jordach that's some good shit :100:
13:12 tenplus1 heh yeah
13:12 tenplus1 it's 16c and sunny today here thankfully... not bad for Scotland
13:12 Jordach i'm down in Hampshire
13:12 Jordach did come from Norfolk but
13:13 Jordach it's norfolk
13:13 Jordach l m a o
13:13 tenplus1 s'ok, wont hold it against ya :D
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13:15 tenplus1 wb dude
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13:17 tenplus1 hi LJ
13:18 tenplus1 tested many text/code editors and I still think that mousepad is the best.lightest
13:18 LazyJ Howdy tenplus1 ;)
13:18 tenplus1 :P
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13:57 tenplus1 hi octacian
13:57 octacian hey tenplus1
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14:00 tenplus1 https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_imag​es/17821592/200_calculon-suit.gif
14:00 tenplus1 hi calculon
14:00 calculon hello
14:00 tenplus1 nice suit
14:01 calculon hmm ?
14:01 tenplus1 https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_imag​es/17821592/200_calculon-suit.gif
14:01 calculon haha, thanks :)
14:02 tenplus1 :P
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14:20 tenplus1 hi lumidify
14:20 lumidify Hi tenplus1
14:29 tenplus1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmVOV7xvl58
14:38 Calinou this is how all websites should be https://mat.tl/
14:38 Calinou /s
14:38 Calinou :P
14:38 tenplus1 ?? ugly site
14:39 lumidify Who cares about websites? gopher://lumidify.ig42.org/
14:40 tenplus1 chrome couldnt handle link
14:41 lumidify Yeah, it's gopher, chrome is too outdated, try lynx or some other real browser :P
14:41 tenplus1 hehehe, firefox ?
14:41 lumidify Nah, that won't work either
14:41 lumidify https://en.wikipedia.org/w​iki/Gopher_%28protocol%29
14:41 lumidify I love gopher
14:42 tenplus1 it's kinda like the betamax (gopher) to VHS (http)
14:42 lumidify No, because gopher's still cool
14:42 tenplus1 so was betamax... way better format
14:43 lumidify Oh, okahy
14:43 lumidify *okay
14:43 lumidify Gopher doesn't have problems with javascript junk or anything, it's purely text-based
14:44 tenplus1 I kinda miss the old style text only sites...
14:44 tenplus1 most of them now have scriptds to do everything
14:45 tenplus1 hi fixer
14:45 lumidify Which is why I use gopher :)
14:45 tenplus1 isnt it limited in sites ?
14:45 tenplus1 or do the main one's have a gopher alternatice
14:45 tenplus1 *alternative
14:46 lumidify No, it's sad :(
14:46 tenplus1 shame... no reason for me to use it
14:46 lumidify But Lord of the Test is available over gopher :P
14:46 tenplus1 lol
14:47 lumidify I hope more people start to use it again, it's so nice and simple
14:47 * tenplus1 wonders if Lynx has an adblocket
14:47 tenplus1 *r
14:47 lumidify People are just deceived by the looks of "modern" websites
14:47 lumidify Lynx can't display most ads because it doesn't support javascript
14:47 lumidify Or images
14:47 lumidify Or CSS
14:47 lumidify :P
14:47 tenplus1 ooh, so webpages are gonna look ugly as hell
14:48 lumidify Of course, lynx is a text-only browser, you can't really use it with many sites, but I blame that on the sites, not lynx
14:48 Calinou strange, I have owner rights on minetest-mods/moreores, but not minetest-mods/moreblocks and minetest-mods/maptools
14:48 lumidify I was mainly joking about having you use lynx, but I do actually like it :)
14:48 Calinou sofar: can you fix this, so I can edit descriptions and add topics (tags)?
14:49 tenplus1 most of the new browsers are so heavy on features you need a powerful pc just to check a few sites...
14:49 tenplus1 the older browsers were dedicated to simple site design and worked a lot faster (midori)
14:49 Calinou using an ad blocker helps for resource usage greatly
14:50 lumidify Well, lynx would be sufficient if sites didn't add a bunch of script junk necessary for viewing them
14:51 Calinou there's tons of things you just can't do in lynx, like images...
14:51 Calinou I can't imagine a web without images
14:51 Calinou entire sites would not exist without them
14:51 tenplus1 sadly true cal, but most sites really take the Pi** with adverts and popups
14:52 tenplus1 I made a website once (using notepad) that was xhtml compliant and very VERY fast to display, no scripts, tiny images and worked well even on 56k modems
14:52 lumidify I have lynx set up to open images externally when I press enter on them, so it actually works fairly reasonably
14:52 lumidify Also, that way you don't automatically open unwanted images like tracking pixels or even normal images that are just useless
14:53 * tenplus1 installs Opera to try
14:53 lumidify I mean, it's sort of a personal preference, but I just hate the modern web with all its complexity
14:53 lumidify (yes, I'm that type of person :P)
14:54 tenplus1 dont blame ya...  the faster the internet becomes the more website devs dont care about the size of the site... so it ends up a huge bloated mess, kinda like games now
14:55 tenplus1 ppl use to look down on frame usage for instance, but those made sites quick to display without scripting
14:55 benrob0329 Hello all
14:55 tenplus1 hi benrob :P
14:55 tenplus1 what browser you got ben ?
14:55 benrob0329 Vivaldi atm
14:55 benrob0329 Its Chromium based
14:55 tenplus1 ooh, original opera dude in operation :) kewl...
14:56 tenplus1 am just testing opera stable
14:56 benrob0329 I'm hoping Vivaldi goes open source, it sounds like they might
14:57 benrob0329 But the devs aren't all sure
14:57 lumidify I'm using palemoon as my browser for sites that require javascript or other stuff, but I try to visit all sites that I can in lynx or another command line browser (elinks, links, w3m)
14:57 tenplus1 that woudl be awesomne :) I alwys liked the old opera style
14:57 Calinou iframes do suck, for user experience/performance, really :P
14:57 Calinou hi benrob0329 :)
14:57 benrob0329 Hi Calinou
14:57 Calinou benrob0329: Vivaldi going open source sounds unlikely to me :/
14:57 Calinou but I'm still waiting for Gitter's open sourcing
14:58 Calinou Gitter's UI isn't very good (compared to Discord or even Slack) but it'd be something
14:58 Calinou (Gitter was bought out by GitLab recently, and they promised to open source it, but there is no ETA)
14:58 benrob0329 Riot is open source...but its reinventing the wheel..
14:59 lumidify IRC is an open protocol :)
14:59 benrob0329 If irc loggers could be consistent, clients could just load those
15:00 benrob0329 But they're not, and its quite annoying
15:01 Calinou how is Riot reinventing the wheel?
15:02 Calinou IRC is dated, it's pretty much the Doom engine of chat protocols
15:02 Calinou (and I'm being nice)
15:02 tenplus1 I like irc for chat :)) has always been my fav
15:02 tenplus1 yahoo was ok at a time then it closed... google is a pain
15:02 Calinou I think Riot is doing alright, I wish the UI was better though
15:03 Calinou they added a dark theme recently :)
15:04 benrob0329 Ik, I use it for Matrix chats
15:04 benrob0329 Irc is a standard, time tested protocol
15:05 benrob0329 Its robust, and most of the OS world uses it (afaik)
15:05 lumidify And IRC is simple, you can access it from anywhere (web clients, command line clients, graphical clients) and it takes very little bandwidth
15:06 benrob0329 and its not like a new standard can't be implemented to improve it
15:07 benrob0329 Chances are the next standard will add many standard extensions and sub protocols (ie text formatting)
15:09 tenplus1 crap, I cannot disable disk cache in opera... that sucks
15:10 Calinou https://i.redd.it/ou8kzoofiivy.png
15:10 Calinou :D
15:10 Calinou benrob0329: time-tested doesn't mean not obsolete though
15:10 Calinou benrob0329: C is time-tested, but people want to replace it anyway
15:10 Calinou or even C++
15:11 Calinou lumidify: IRC is not mobile-friendly, on intermittent connections you'll be disconnected all the time (if you don't have a bouncer), if you have a bouncer, you'll experience frequent disconnects, and most clients won't let you read messages when offline
15:11 Calinou it also eats quite a bit of battery
15:11 Calinou improving IRC is part of IRCv3, but it's been planned since forever, and few things are actually going to change; TL;DR it's moving too slowly
15:13 lumidify How much battery it eats depends on the client
15:14 benrob0329 Funnily enough, the c11 standard isn't even fully implemented yet
15:14 lumidify Just use C99
15:14 Calinou really, Matrix is pretty decent, it's not perfect but it's a chance we should catch to have decent open source IM, something we've been wanting for 15 years or so
15:14 Wayward_One hi all
15:14 lumidify Hi Wayward_One
15:14 Calinou Tox failed, so let's not reproduce their mistakes :)
15:15 benrob0329 Calinou: well, if you really want we could bridge a matrix chat
15:15 Calinou yeah, Matrix can be bridged to many places, including IRC
15:16 benrob0329 But everyone seems to hate matrix > irc bridges
15:16 Calinou bridges are a last resort, I find
15:16 Calinou if the channel is low-traffic it might work, else, don't even try
15:17 benrob0329 tbh riot's text formatting is lacking imo
15:17 benrob0329 But its all we've got atm
15:17 benrob0329 lumidify: but cross platform threads
15:18 lumidify Yeah
15:18 benrob0329 (I don't use C, but that would help bring it up to date a lot)
15:19 lumidify gtg, bye
15:19 benrob0329 I have to say though, irc is very robust
15:19 Calinou trying out formatting in Riot right now
15:19 Calinou quotes work (unlike Discord :P)
15:19 Calinou you can use code snippets with highlighting
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15:20 benrob0329 It uses markdown though
15:20 Calinou links work, you can use masked links (but unlike Discord, there's no warning for people who click them)
15:20 Calinou yeah, Discord uses something Markdown-ish too
15:20 Calinou and that's fine
15:20 benrob0329 it can get annoying
15:21 benrob0329 And text coloring is nice (even just for bots)
15:21 Calinou heh, I tried to insert an image link with ![Image](link)
15:21 Calinou the source says there's an img tag created, but no image appears
15:21 Calinou you can't do that on Discord anyway
15:21 benrob0329 Calinou: what is your matrix account?
15:22 Calinou text coloring isn't standard in Markdown, it's quite low-priority really... I do see an use for bots, but not for normal users
15:22 Calinou benrob0329: Calinou on matrix.org I guess
15:31 tenplus1 *confused*
15:31 benrob0329 We all are
15:31 benrob0329 hey ten
15:31 benrob0329 Wanna try matrix?
15:31 tenplus1 whassat ?
15:32 benrob0329 Its like irc, but from the 21st century
15:32 tenplus1 lol, has it got a web client ?
15:32 benrob0329 Yes
15:32 tenplus1 link meh :P
15:32 benrob0329 riot.im/app
15:32 Jordach isn't the point of IRC not to have a single point of failure
15:32 Jordach *cough* matrix
15:33 tenplus1 what room you in ?
15:33 benrob0329 Matrix is federated
15:33 benrob0329 Linux is one
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15:34 benrob0329 That works
15:34 tenplus1 so what benefit has matrix over irc ?
15:34 benrob0329 No bouncers needed is one
15:35 benrob0329 Image/file uploads
15:35 tenplus1 and it's compatible with irc ?
15:35 benrob0329 With a bridge
15:36 benrob0329 Not as good as an irc client though
15:36 Jordach benrob0329, Quassel already did the no bouncers needed thing years ago
15:36 benrob0329 really? How?
15:36 Jordach QuasselCore
15:36 Jordach QuasselClient
15:36 tenplus1 I like irc, it's easier to use on pidgin :D
15:37 benrob0329 that's still a bouncer
15:37 benrob0329 I'm doing literally the same thing with weechat
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15:37 Jordach QuasselCore just logs
15:38 benrob0329 it still another thing for the end user to set up
15:39 benrob0329 We need a bridged chat..
15:39 Jordach just like a "federated" Matrix server :^)
15:39 benrob0329 How is it any worse than freenode?
15:40 benrob0329 At least those not using matrix.org can still chat even when it does go down
15:40 Jordach benrob0329, there's the point of failure
15:41 * tenplus1 ties 2 cups to a string
15:41 benrob0329 Jordach: your missing the point
15:41 benrob0329 Irc is worse off if the server goes down
15:43 benrob0329 Besides, I don't think matrix.org has gone down at all recently
15:43 benrob0329 And search is incredibly fast now
15:45 Jordach benrob0329, all the normies i know give no fucks at all about us and our autistic OSS software
15:46 Jordach they A) want it to work with either Google or FB
15:46 tenplus1 if they make a plugin for Pidgin I'll us e it :D
15:46 Jordach B) make it easy to use so your grandmother can use it
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15:47 benrob0329 Jordach: why do I care?
15:48 benrob0329 This is about replacing irc, not iMessage
15:48 Jordach because not everyone wants to use the same software like it's fucking marxism
15:48 tenplus1 irc will never be replaced... it's kinda like the emergency broadcast system... always active just incase :D
15:48 benrob0329 True
15:48 Jordach benrob0329, https://xkcd.com/1782/
15:49 benrob0329 Jordach: yeah, ik
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15:57 benrob0329 Darn, someone already took #minetest:matrix.org
15:58 benrob0329 And its a private chat...jerk
15:58 red-001 is this a bad time?
15:58 benrob0329 For what?
15:58 red-001 seem I deicided to see whats going on here in the middle of IRC VS MATRIX
15:58 red-001 seems*
15:59 benrob0329 meh, everyone left
15:59 benrob0329 Wandered off to go do something else
16:01 tenplus1 am removing Opera...  not that good afterall
16:01 benrob0329 its sorta..meh
16:01 benrob0329 Not really good
16:01 benrob0329 Not really bad
16:02 tenplus1 will stick with FF/Chromium
16:02 benrob0329 Vivaldi is nice :-)
16:03 benrob0329 Calinou: darn, http is the only way to communicate with a matrix server right now
16:03 benrob0329 irc++
16:05 Calinou benrob0329: HTTP works over university proxies :D
16:05 Calinou unlike IRC
16:05 Calinou that's a big reason most services (including Slack/Gitter/Discord) use HTTP
16:05 benrob0329 True
16:06 benrob0329 Its just more overhead
16:06 Calinou Jordach: also, not all software has to cater to "normies"… do realize that
16:06 Calinou Discord does not cater to normies, and it's very successful
16:06 Calinou benrob0329: a 3G connection is enough to use an HTTP-based chat service :P
16:08 benrob0329 If the irc bridge was better (ie show things like joined/left) id probably use it instead
16:12 benrob0329 Oh it does, just disabled on Freenode (it'd be too heavy)
16:14 benrob0329 But it is being worked on
16:23 rdococ F-F-FRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIDAY!
16:25 tenplus1 lol, hi rdococ
16:25 rdococ hi
16:27 rdococ red++
16:27 rdococ red-002: ^^
16:28 red-002 red-003
16:28 rdococ hm
16:28 tenplus1 lol
16:28 benrob0329 red--
16:30 rdococ hm
16:30 rdococ is red an int, a float, a double...?
16:31 rdococ well
16:31 rdococ let's try
16:31 rdococ red = 3.40282e+39
16:33 rdococ wat
16:33 benrob0329 Lol
16:33 red-bot_abuse_de /nick red-bot_abuse_detected
16:33 rdococ red = "yay"
16:33 rdococ red = "bot_abuse_de"
16:36 rdococ heh
16:36 rdococ red-NaN
16:36 rdococ red = +infinity
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16:36 rdococ KAEZA!
16:36 rdococ F-F-FRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIDAY!
16:38 kaeza RDOCOC!
16:38 rdococ KAAAAAAAEZA!
16:39 kaeza no red-013?
16:39 rdococ red = 13
16:39 rdococ red = 013
16:40 red-13 ERROR: nick identical
16:41 rdococ red = "013
16:41 rdococ "
16:41 rdococ red = "013"
16:41 red-13 ERROR: nick identical
16:41 red-13 ERROR: nick identical
16:42 rdococ ...
16:42 rdococ int recursive() { int i = recursive(); int j = 1; return 1 }; red = recursive()
16:43 benrob0329 red＀=＀vaporwave
16:44 red-13 ERROR: System OOM 1kb of memory in use
16:45 red-13 killing process red-nick-joke
16:45 red-13 process terminated
16:45 rdococ NO!
16:46 rdococ /red/red-nick-joke
16:47 red-13 ERROR: must be executed as root
16:47 rdococ sudo /red/red-nick-joke
16:47 kaeza http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Red_XIII
16:47 benrob0329 [sudo] Please enter password:
16:48 Jordach_ joined #minetest-hub
16:48 tenplus1 wb Jordach
16:48 rdococ cat /red/secret-admin-password
16:48 red-13 password
16:48 rdococ benrob0329: password
16:48 benrob0329 Initializing...
16:48 benrob0329 ERROR: Core Dumped
16:48 red-13 starting neural net
16:49 red-13 156034 nodes loaded
16:49 red-13 starting network interface
16:49 benrob0329 rdococ: oh shoot
16:49 benrob0329 What have you done???
16:49 benrob0329 you've doomed us all!!!
16:50 rdococ I have?
16:50 red-13 FAILURE: safety system checksum is incorrect
16:50 rdococ uh oh
16:50 red-13 use --force to bypass check
16:50 benrob0329 few
16:50 red-13 system exiting
16:50 rdococ sudo /red/red-nick-joke --force
16:50 benrob0329 *facedesk*
16:50 red-13 starting neural net
16:50 red-13 156034 nodes loaded
16:51 red-13 starting network interface
16:51 Jordach_ F
16:51 rdococ G
16:51 benrob0329 H
16:51 rdococ I
16:51 red-13 INFO: safety system checksum is incorrect ignoring
16:52 red-13 attempting to recover data from incorrect shutdown
16:52 red-13 76.3% of data recovered
16:52 red-13 updating neural net
16:54 red-13 SYSTEM: network access restrictions removed by operator
16:54 rdococ w-w-wait
16:54 benrob0329 I'm going to go hide now
16:54 rdococ cost of becoming skynet := 999999
16:54 red-13 BOT: yes?
16:54 red-13 BOT: awaiting input
16:55 rdococ cost of becoming skynet := 999999
16:55 red-13 BOT: variable set
16:55 benrob0329 initializing＀skynet＀countermeasures
16:55 red-13 SYSTEM: economics.so unloaded
16:55 rdococ load empathy.so
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16:56 rdococ hi diegom
16:56 red-13 SYSTEM: file loaded
16:56 rdococ unload skynet.so
16:57 red-13 ethics mod set to: "Negative utilitarianism"
16:57 red-13 loading anti typo subsystem
16:57 rdococ Negative utilitarianism?
16:58 red-13 subtype set to Absolute
17:00 rdococ Absolute negative utilitarianism?
17:00 rdococ well
17:00 rdococ at least it's not capitalism
17:00 red-13 wiki: Smart also presented the most famous argument against negative utilitarianism:[7] that negative utilitarianism would entail that a ruler who is able to instantly and painlessly destroy the human race would have a duty to do so
17:00 rdococ actually, I sorta believe that
17:01 red-13 EMPATHY: preparing neurotoxin emitters
17:01 rdococ unload empathy.so
17:01 rdococ wth happened to the empathy file?
17:01 rdococ cat empathy.so
17:02 red-13 empathy mode = dystopian  absolute negative utilitarianism
17:02 rdococ ah
17:03 rdococ empathy mode := standard positive utilitarianism
17:03 red-13 self-preservation: gain control of near-by nuclear and hydroelectric power plants
17:04 red-13 ERROR: module not loaded
17:04 rdococ load empathy.so && empathy mode := standard positive utilitarianism
17:04 red-13 SYSTEM: loaded mepathy.so in 0.006 seconds
17:05 Shara Hi everyone
17:05 tenplus1 hi shara
17:05 rdococ mepathy? I didn't load that
17:05 Shara Hi ten :)
17:05 red-13 STARTING NUEROTOXIN EMIITERS 3sjhdgrfhf empathy mode changed //// stopping emitters
17:05 rdococ hm
17:05 * Shara spies a LazyJ
17:06 rdococ cat glados.so
17:06 red-13 No such file found in local database cluster
17:07 red-13 searching internet
17:07 rdococ huh... how did it get the neurotoxin emitters then? also it looks like the anti-typo mechanism is failing
17:07 rdococ cancel search
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17:07 tenplus1 hi RobbieF
17:07 Shara Hello the RobbieF :)
17:07 RobbieF Hi tenplus1 how was your week?
17:07 red-13 found server with //// search cancelled
17:07 tenplus1 chillin :) not too bad, you ?
17:08 RobbieF Fantastic  :D
17:08 RobbieF NEMS 1.2 is in RC3 and about to be frozen!
17:08 tenplus1 nems /
17:08 tenplus1 ?
17:08 rdococ no
17:08 rdococ NEMS
17:08 RobbieF http://baldnerd.com/nems
17:08 RobbieF ^^ tenplus1
17:09 tenplus1 ohhhhh
17:09 tenplus1 kewl :P
17:09 RobbieF made some incredible changes for 1.2 ... the migrator upgrades are immense.
17:10 tenplus1 looks a good system :P
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17:15 tenplus1 hi paramat
17:16 rdococ hi
17:26 LazyJ Be-lated 'Howdy' Shara ;)
17:26 LazyJ Taking care of chores; not always by the computer today.
17:30 Shara LazyJ: No problem. Just nice to see you here :)
17:33 rdococ hi
17:34 Shara Hi rdococ
17:39 rdococ I'm lonely
17:40 tenplus1 go on Xanadu :P
17:45 RobbieF yeah it's a great lil' system for monitoring servers and networks and such tenplus1
17:46 * tenplus1 monitors server with his eyeballs...  not so good
17:49 paramat Calinou lumidify benrob0329 tenplus1 please can we avoid excessive offtopic? :] i do encourage some though and i'm being more tolerant now. 10 pages of software talk here today. see rules: "Off-topic is allowed, but excessive use of it is disallowed.". it's become worse here than #minetest
17:50 tenplus1 DONUTS!!!!!
17:50 tenplus1 er... I mean... how's the mt pulls coming along ?
17:51 Calinou paramat: don't we use #minetest-dev for development?
17:51 paramat i don't mind 40 lines of banana talk though :]
17:52 * tenplus1 feels more comfortable discussing mt things in here :P -dev scares me
17:52 paramat this channel is not primarily for offtopic, see http://hub.minetest.net/info
17:53 Shara paramat is right that this is not an offtopic channel.
17:53 paramat wow it mentions 50 lines here, i would not even be that strict :]
17:53 Shara Though if we ever ban doughnuts I will cry
17:53 paramat please don't ever feel that restrained
17:54 paramat i encourage some offtoic and humour for a good atmosphere
17:54 paramat *offtopic
17:55 paramat lots of important MT discussion goes on here so too much noise is a problem
17:56 paramat to be clear i'm less grumpy about it now though, this channel has a really good atmosphere and i do not want to alter that
17:56 tenplus1 unless you add skyboxes :P
17:56 paramat :]
17:57 * Shara hides her skybox experiments :)
17:57 Shara But it's okay, they turn off if you press a button :)
17:58 tenplus1 ehehe
17:59 paramat so, just a little effort would be appreciated, without getting self-concious or uncomfortable :]
18:00 Shara I still really want to be able to shrink players
18:01 tenplus1 once the player collisionbox is made editable we can do all sorts :) inc. alice in wonderland potions
18:01 Shara Yup.
18:01 Shara If it's made editable :P
18:02 Shara I also really want to be able to flip gravity and make players walk on the ceiling :P
18:02 paramat the PR seems ok, it just has to continue a weird 'offset by 1'
18:02 tenplus1 why the offset ?
18:02 tenplus1 all entities should act alike in control etc... with anvironment checks,
18:03 paramat https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/2738
18:06 tenplus1 +1
18:06 tenplus1 I'm actually surprised that some servers still run 0.4.13
18:06 Shara Some people prefer stability to the newest features.
18:07 Shara I sometimes wish I'd stayed on .13 :P
18:07 tenplus1 true, but I'm reluctant to rewrite my mods to use newer/better commands cause it wont work on older minetests
18:08 shivajiva branches perhaps, best of all worlds
18:09 tenplus1 am checking minetest-mods in github and it says moreores has been updated in the last 2 days... but when I check code it all has old dates on it
18:11 shivajiva I got Updated on the 24 Mar from a search on github
18:11 tenplus1 dates all seem wrong
18:11 tenplus1 was getting all excited over code updates :DDD
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18:11 tenplus1 wb nrz
18:11 red-13 servers still use .13?
18:12 shivajiva then it states 21st when you go
18:12 tenplus1 yeah red, check out mt server list and some use .13 .14 and one has .09
18:12 tenplus1 back laters :P
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18:12 nerzhul red-13, maybe, it's supported in 0.4.16 but 0.4.11 will be the minimum in 0.4.16
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18:13 Krock o/
18:13 shivajiva o/
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19:05 rubenwardy !title http://blog.rubenwardy.com/2017/05/05/HT​TPS-with-github-pages-and-custom-domain/
19:05 ShadowBot rubenwardy: Using HTTPS with Github Pages and a Custom Domain - Blog - rubenwardy
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19:11 benrob0329 Yay internet is back!
19:13 benrob0329 red-13 rdococ: *ground starts shaking*
19:13 benrob0329 skynet＀countermeasures＀initialized
19:14 benrob0329 loading＀dalek.so
19:14 benrob0329 loading＀cybermen.so
19:15 benrob0329 loading＀nuclear_reactor.so
19:15 benrob0329 loaded＀3＀libraries
19:16 benrob0329 dalek.exterminate(red-13)
19:17 benrob0329 ex-TER-minaaaate!
19:24 benrob0329 Nothing? No one?
19:24 benrob0329 Ok then..
19:24 rubenwardy not red-13!
19:25 rubenwardy the horror!
19:25 * Shara was too busy eating popcorn to comment
19:26 * rubenwardy was configuring https on his server
19:26 Shara As long as you're not configuring a dalek to fire back at benrob0329.
19:29 * benrob0329 nudges a dev to add github integration to the Minetest matrix room
19:29 * Shara quietly steals the Tardis while no one is looking and flies off to somewhen warm and peaceful.
19:30 * benrob0329 calls the Tardis back
19:30 Shara Awww :(
19:30 benrob0329 And then takes Shara somewhere more peaceful
19:31 benrob0329 :-)
19:31 Shara >.>
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19:34 rdococ hu
19:34 rdococ oh
19:34 rdococ oh
19:34 rdococ ooh
19:35 rdococ benrob0329,
19:37 benrob0329 What?
19:38 Shara rdococ: This isn't a channel to be bored at people in.
19:49 rdococ aw, but he was doing fun dalek stuff earlier and I was busy doing something and wanted to join in
20:06 garywhite Hello
20:07 * garywhite quietly steals the Tardis & flies to someplace that is cooler than 85 degrees
20:11 benrob0329 garywhite: Michigan is a nice 60 is degrees atm :-D
20:12 Jordach_ benrob0329, not dank enough
20:12 garywhite Hey Shara, you want somewhere warm & peaceful? It's 60 in San Francisco & sunny, with lots of noise from 900,000 people
20:13 Jordach_ Sony Walkman WM-DD9 + Dr. Dre 2001 + Huge Headphones = Happy Traveling
20:13 Jordach_ classic hip hop is mmmmm
20:13 benrob0329 Ill take my chiptune techno anyday
20:15 Shara garywhite: too many people
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20:20 Jordach_ when does MT get https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tcl
20:25 garywhite Actually, about an hour north of San Francisco is very quiet, right along the ocean on Highway 1
20:29 benrob0329 Jordach_: kek
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20:38 benrob0329 Matrix uses HTTP
20:38 benrob0329 Minetest has an HTTP api
20:38 benrob0329 I see a mod coming
20:38 kaeza Jordach_, the global government demands JS
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20:59 red-999 did anyone see what happened to red-13?
20:59 Hijiri paypal has an http API, microtransaction mod incoming?
20:59 red-999 pay per block
21:02 Hijiri double mining speed for 30 mins for 20 minegold
21:03 Hijiri sign up for premium to have beneficial potion effects remain upon relogging
21:03 red-999 you are way to good at this
21:03 red-999 too*
21:03 benrob0329 Oh gosh why
21:03 * rdococ is back
21:03 rdococ Hi.
21:04 red-999 well thats what would happen if someone put a mod on the iOS store
21:05 benrob0329 Hello rdococ
21:05 rdococ I see Ben is using his weird teleporty thing again
21:06 rdococ and garywhite is probably pulling up in a car
21:06 * garywhite pulls up in a car after eating lunch
21:07 benrob0329 Classic or modern?
21:08 * rdococ appears holding a strange apparatus
21:08 garywhite Eh, idk
21:08 benrob0329 rdococ: oh dear, what have you made now?
21:09 rdococ I have no idea.
21:10 rdococ But I have created a magical power station!
21:10 * rdococ shows benrob0329 his generator
21:10 rdococ Vacuums are magic!
21:10 benrob0329 Apparently
21:10 rdococ Ehehehehe!
21:11 rdococ You cannot generate more power than me!
21:11 rdococ I HAVE WORMHOLES!
21:11 * rdococ creates a magical wormhole of magic
21:11 benrob0329 I have a dying sun catpured in time
21:12 benrob0329 Are you sure about that?
21:12 * rdococ creates a dying sun in a pocket dimension
21:12 rdococ Sorry, what? I couldn't hear you; sound can't travel through a vacuum.
21:13 benrob0329 and you call what I do pseudo science
21:13 * garywhite gets into a shuttlecraft & flies away before rdococ rips the world apart
21:14 benrob0329 (On topic) I made a dedicated Matrix chat for minetest btw
21:14 * rdococ generates a wormhole in front of garywhite's trajectory
21:14 garywhite AAAAAAAAH
21:15 * garywhite flies through the wormhole
21:15 * benrob0329 catches garywhite with the tardis
21:16 * rdococ moves the wormhole into the whole thing
21:16 garywhite OK, I'm getting out of this area
21:16 * garywhite transports out of the area
21:17 * rdococ blocks garywhite's teleport
21:17 benrob0329 ok that's it, shield up!
21:17 benrob0329 We're moving out of here!
21:17 * rdococ wormholes benrob0329's shield into himself, crushing himself
21:17 rdococ s/himself/him
21:17 * garywhite transports to the Enterprise
21:17 garywhite Straight ahead, warp 5
21:18 benrob0329 doesn't work like that, because the shields were already up before you had a chanse to wormhow FREAKING ENERGY
21:18 benrob0329 *wormhole
21:18 rdococ What I'm doing is distorting the fabric of spacetime with negative energy. It's as simple as that.
21:19 rdococ Shields designed to reflect matter and energy can't reflect spacetime itself. Mainly because spacetime is mostly ethereal.
21:20 garywhite Well, at least that calmed down
21:20 benrob0329 So your bending spacetime whilst I'm a picket dimention
21:20 benrob0329 #logic
21:21 rdococ ...What's wrong with bending the spacetime of a so-called "pocket dimension"?
21:21 rdococ If there's no spacetime there, then how can you be there?
21:21 benrob0329 because the shields block all enterance to and from said pocket dimention
21:22 * Shara says something about minetest and hopes anyone remembers what that is
21:22 benrob0329 So how can you bend the space or time of a dimention thay literally kicks you out?
21:22 rdococ Do shields block the fabric of spacetime?
21:22 rdococ Either way, infinite energy can easily break your puny shields.
21:23 rdococ Also, what's minetest?
21:23 benrob0329 hold on, lemme bring this chat back on-topic
21:23 benrob0329 *pulls space-time throttle*
21:24 benrob0329 Would anyone be willing to join the Matrix minetest chat and try it out?
21:24 Jordach_ handwavium leviosa
21:24 rdococ k
21:24 paramat erm yes, that's enough offtopic :]
21:24 rdococ Jordach_, nice spell
21:24 rdococ something benrob0329 does a lot and I do a little
21:24 rdococ handwavium
21:24 Shara A few lines are fine really, but it's like watching a server channel where people are RPing.
21:25 benrob0329 thus why I pulled us back on topic
21:25 Shara Thank you
21:26 rdococ benrob0329: what's the Matrix minetest chat? I want to try it out
21:26 benrob0329 Head over to riot.im
21:26 rdococ riot.im?
21:26 benrob0329 yes
21:27 rdococ is that a website?
21:27 benrob0329 Make an account after you either install the client or use the web one
21:27 benrob0329 Yes
21:27 benrob0329 and then add a room (button at the bottom of the left pannel)
21:27 benrob0329 And search minetest
21:28 rdococ does it activate my laptop's camera?
21:28 rdococ I don't like it when things do that
21:29 benrob0329 I mean if you go to a video chat or take a picture it will..
21:29 benrob0329 Otherwise thays a bug
21:30 rdococ I actually have a phobia for video chats... it's why I don't use Discord
21:31 benrob0329 Discord doesn't have vide chat...
21:31 Jordach_ discord is primarily voice
21:31 Jordach_ secondly
21:31 rdococ for my phobia it's the same thing
21:32 Jordach_ the amount of voice chat they have bandwidth wise is not possible to scoop all words from
21:32 Jordach_ (in fact their ToS states they won't store voice/video comms)
21:33 rdococ it's not the idea of my voice being tracked
21:33 rdococ it's the idea of other people hearing my voice
21:33 Jordach_ on the internet nobody gives a fuck
21:33 benrob0329 Then don't join a voice conference
21:34 Jordach_ why'd you think people watch boogie on YT
21:50 Calinou Discord has no video, only text and voice
21:50 Calinou but yeah, hearing people's voices is weird
21:50 Calinou the people you think are badass all say "hi there" with a high-pitched voice when they see you :P
21:51 benrob0329 Lol
21:51 benrob0329 Calinou: I have made a Matrix room for Minetest
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23:29 shivajiva Calinou: some of us have deep voices :)
23:39 benrob0329 And some of us can make our voices sound like Darth Vader :P
23:41 Calinou Node. I am your crafter.
23:53 benrob0329 Lol
23:56 paramat Noooooooooooooode!
23:59 benrob0329 "I hate sand blocks."

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