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01:04 benrob0329 o/ rubenwardy, bwarden
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01:11 benrob0329 Hi octacian
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01:13 octacian hey benrob0329
01:14 * benrob0329 is thinking about installing freebsd
01:14 Calinou benrob0329: I tried TrueOS in VirtualBox like 1 month ago, it was not quite a pleasant experience
01:15 Calinou (but you can compile and run Godot in it! which is pretty surprising)
01:15 Calinou it's ugly, the install procedure is not hard, but not pretty at all :P
01:15 Calinou it kind of feels like where Linux was 10 years ago
01:16 benrob0329 Heh, a quick gtk theme swap will fix that
01:16 benrob0329 (Granted, i think the terminal can be beutiful..so yeah)
01:38 rubenwardy Set up multitouch swipes on my laptop today :D
01:39 rubenwardy Although something seems to be swallowing two finger swipes :(       (which I want to use for forward/backwards in a browser)
01:42 Calinou rubenwardy: multitouch works on Linux here
01:42 Calinou and on Windows
01:43 Calinou I can pinch-zoom in Chromium, for example
01:43 rubenwardy What driver/program are you using?
01:44 Calinou whatever came with Manjaro, on kernel 4.9.22
01:44 Calinou I did notthing special, it worked out of the box :)
01:45 Calinou it's almost usable in tablet mode… almost, because automatic rotation does not work (though it could be done manually via a key binding, for example), and I need to research virtual keyboard options too
01:45 Calinou fingerprint reader also doesn't work on Linux, it's encrypted all the way, so there will probably never be support
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01:45 rubenwardy Calinou: can you try typing  libinput-gestures-setup --version  ?
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01:46 rubenwardy actually, libinput-gesture
01:46 rubenwardy * libinput-gestures  grr
01:46 benrob0329_ aaand we're back in buisness
01:46 benrob0329_ antergos boot rebuilt
01:47 Calinou no such command on my system, rubenwardy
01:47 rubenwardy nothing like libinput- ?
01:48 rubenwardy I'm using https://github.com/iberianpig/fusuma/ , a quick google for Manjaro gave libinput-gestures :/
01:48 Calinou I have `libinput-debug-events  libinput-list-devices`
01:48 rubenwardy yeah, doesn't use that then :/
01:49 benrob0329_ Calinou: there;s an aur package for libinput-gestures
01:49 rubenwardy benrob0329_: I'll pm you the context
01:50 Calinou heh, `sudo libinput-debug-events` causes all input to be displayed
01:50 Calinou it hides the exact keys pressed, for obvious reasons, though
01:50 rubenwardy yeah, I was using that to debug
01:51 * benrob0329_ waits for old instance to time out
01:52 rubenwardy hopefully the author will come up with a fix, https://github.com/iberianpig/fusuma/issues/37
01:52 rubenwardy or I'll find a better version
02:02 Calinou https://lichess.org/@/c1k4v0k1
02:02 Calinou this guy played a whole -8 minutes of chess
02:02 Calinou (see top of profile, to the right of the rating graph)
02:04 rubenwardy oh, lol
02:04 * rubenwardy adds chess to his summer todo list
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02:46 * benrob0329_ installs FreeBSD to a vm
02:47 sofar I'm sorry to hear that
02:47 sofar try clearlinux instead
02:48 sofar :)
03:28 benrob0329_ heh
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04:37 sofar https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYWQcZovMaY maybe soon?
04:43 octacian Night all!
04:43 benrob0329 Gnight
04:43 benrob0329 sofar: thats pretty cool!
04:45 benrob0329 It would be cool if the clouds rolled in rather than blocked in though
04:45 benrob0329 Like, all new clouds were the given density
04:45 benrob0329 So that the transition os smoother
04:45 benrob0329 sofar ^^
04:46 sofar it don't work like that
04:47 sofar I mean, it could
04:47 sofar would be a change in the noise usage and result probably in a 3d noise I think
04:49 nore I think you would have to compute the transition, then move faces accordingly
04:50 nore a 3d noise wouldn't be able to keep the blocky cloud feel
04:51 nore then again, what about clouds coming from nowhere?
04:51 nore however, another idea
04:51 nore what if we could ask for the new density to only apply to new clouds
04:51 nore so that we set the new density
04:51 nore and the sky slowly gets overcast by the arriving clouds?
04:53 benrob0329 nore: thus was my suggestion
04:53 benrob0329 I just did a bad job at explaining it
04:54 nore oh, I though it was like the faces from the clouds moving to cover the new squares
04:54 benrob0329 No no no, just new clouds have the new density
04:55 benrob0329 (Offtopic) https://youtu.be/oimVNT1kMMA
05:02 paramat clouds do appear from nowhere, so current behaviour with rising density is actually realistic
05:10 paramat or rather, 'realistic'. invisible water vapour becomes visible cloud
05:13 benrob0329 Having fading effects would be nice, but more complex.
05:13 benrob0329 Current behavior is fine imo
05:13 sofar I just don't like the exclusivity of clouds to one type of skybox
05:14 sofar it makes skyboxes ... boring/uneventful
05:14 VanessaE RBA had the idea once of replacing skyboxes with a sky "dome", that would rotate to simulate cloud movement and/or sun/moon movement
05:14 paramat i see, you mean the default skybox
05:15 VanessaE I think the idea was to have multiple "layers" of such domes, one for clouds, one for sun/moon, etc.
05:15 paramat by 'skybox' i mean the custom ones
05:15 sofar well what we need is 2 skyboxes
05:15 sofar skyboxes can be rotated anyway
05:15 sofar one for day, one for night
05:15 sofar and a good alpha function
05:15 sofar and then paint in stellar objects
05:15 paramat a dome would not be suitable for a cubic world
05:16 VanessaE paramat: sure it would
05:16 sofar it doesn't matter
05:16 VanessaE it's so far away that the skybox looks the same anyway
05:16 sofar there's no reason to make a dome
05:16 VanessaE the only reason to make it a dome was because the math to rotate it was easier I guess
05:16 sofar it's silly frmo a 3d rendering perspective
05:16 VanessaE I don't remember too well now
05:16 sofar that's nonsense too
05:16 sofar rotating a 3d box is trivial
05:16 sofar and it has a simple mesh that way
05:16 sofar and it's easy to UV map
05:16 sofar etc
05:17 paramat nope it wouldn't look the same, the 'cloudy fog thing' at the horizon shows the skybox is a cube
05:17 VanessaE hm, I never noticed.
05:18 sofar good gradual rotation would make that largely invisible
05:18 sofar I don't think that's a reason to do weird stuff
05:18 sofar kiss, imho
05:18 VanessaE yeah I guess I can agree with that
05:18 paramat and the darker blue square at -Y did too before it was removed
05:18 VanessaE paramat: oh, I do remember seeing that
05:18 sofar ?
05:18 sofar screenshot?
05:20 paramat erm ..
05:21 paramat the -Y tile was dark blue like +Y, it had no foggy lower half like +_XZ
05:21 sofar oh
05:22 paramat http://i.imgur.com/yzAoYaH.png
05:22 VanessaE Bizarro World?  ;)
05:23 paramat from flexrealm mod
05:24 paramat also you can see how the +_XZ tiles meet in a corner (top of image)
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05:37 benrob0329 Gnight
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06:14 nerzhul https://ftp.openbsd.org/pu​b/OpenBSD/songs/song61.mp3 oh yeah :D
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06:17 sofar that's just terrible
06:18 nerzhul openbsd devs make a song on each relase, this one was very good
06:18 nerzhul https://www.openbsd.org/lyrics.html#61
06:20 sofar nothing like taking a bunch of excellent programmers who like hacking on outdated OS code and write a musical song every year
06:20 sofar it's like us minetest devs making textures
06:20 nerzhul openbsd is not outdated, it miss some modern feature but it's an excellent and robust OS for routers used by some constructors
06:21 sofar if it isn't moving forward, it's probably moving backwards
06:21 nerzhul (i have an OpenBSD which is connected directly to my ISP (Orange) in fiber it works great :)
06:21 sofar I'm sure it does an excellent work of routing IP packets
06:21 nerzhul yeah, at work 3 years ago we have 4 OpenBSD routers to manage our research lab it was excellent to manage :)
06:23 nerzhul sofar, do you know wiki.minetest.net and forum.minetest.net are hosted by celeron55 on OpenBSD ? :p
06:25 sofar well the wiki isn't exactly something to be proud of
06:28 nerzhul it's just a mediawiki, if you are not proud it's because of content, and you can contribute
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07:24 celeron55 openbsd is very janky for sure, it's like they've changed nothing user-visible since the 80s 8)
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08:06 tenplus1 hi folks
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08:06 tenplus1 hi nrz
08:12 shivajiva Hi tenplus1
08:12 shivajiva 1 approval for #5622 :)
08:12 tenplus1 hi shiva...  ooh, link me plz
08:13 tenplus1 found it
08:14 tenplus1 w00t!  we need 'dis :D
08:14 shivajiva hmm I think krock may be persuaded to approve ;)
08:15 * tenplus1 glares at krock... who incidentaly isnt online... pah!
08:16 shivajiva hey it's early yet, he'll be around at some point :)
08:16 tenplus1 lol
08:17 tenplus1 been checking meta stuff, mainly comparing hopper and locked chest and the only diff. is that locked chests set owner string... am thinking if I set a string it'll cement the metadata of the block and make it work all the time
08:19 shivajiva okay, makes sense, my experience with manipulating node meta was with a node that had the owner all ready, the quest node in skyblocks
08:20 tenplus1 the only difference I see in hopper/chest is that chests set a string inside...  other than that I dunno why it sometimes fails to write metadata on servers, but chests ALWAYS work on server
08:23 shivajiva makes you wonder what is going on, if you made a diff size chest would that always set the meta
08:24 tenplus1 all the hopper is is a 8 slot chest... the abm handles the rest...
08:25 tenplus1 *16
08:26 shivajiva how are you testing it, locally or externally?
08:26 tenplus1 both... am running on a singleplayer instance and a local network
08:28 tenplus1 will ask Shinji to add to Xanadu when he's around, that way I can have a live test also...  see if the additional set_string helps
08:28 tenplus1 also added meta check when opening hopper... wont try to show formspec if it isnt there, so will stop existing errors
08:31 shivajiva maybe insert a print pos on_place just to keep an eye on the vector when it fails
08:32 tenplus1 good point
08:33 shivajiva soon as we know the failure mech we can trace it
08:34 tenplus1 maybe I shoudl just move all of the meta stuff inside the on_place when it's set down
08:35 tenplus1 could be that pointed_thing.above in on_place has a different coord from pos in the on_construct and metadata is sometimes being lost to the node beside it
08:35 shivajiva oi stop thinking what I'm thinking :P
08:35 tenplus1 eheheh
08:37 tenplus1 that being the case I can remove on_construct and after_place_node entirely
08:44 shivajiva on_construct is normally where the meta is initialised though
08:44 tenplus1 true, but I have a custom on_place that decides if hopper should be normal or side hopper, and what direction it faces...
08:45 tenplus1 so I changed to on_place = hopper_place,
08:45 tenplus1 and had the hopper_place function place node and set meta for simplicity
08:45 tenplus1 the change works fine on singleplayer and local network...
08:45 tenplus1 will up to Xanadu and see how it fairs
08:45 shivajiva okay :)
08:45 tenplus1 thanks for help :P
08:46 shivajiva pleasure ;)
08:47 tenplus1 I like how FaceDeer's hopper mod has come along :) tubes and sorters n stuff... really good :)  I like mines simple tho :P
08:49 shivajiva it's good to have choices, sometimes lightweight is all you can afford
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08:50 tenplus1 hifixer
08:50 tenplus1 shiva: https://github.com/tenplus1/hopper
08:56 Shara Morning all
08:56 tenplus1 hi shara :P
08:58 Shara Hi ten :P
08:58 Shara How goes?
08:58 tenplus1 hopper mod getting some attention, updating git now
08:59 Shara awesome :)
09:00 tenplus1 was thinking of doing a Beds Redo with coloured beds you can actually bounce on
09:04 Shara You know I've been thinking about beds you can bounce on :P
09:04 tenplus1 eheheh
09:05 tenplus1 one for each wool colour that has a slight bounce so it can be used for fall damage etc
09:05 Shara :)
09:06 tenplus1 also use 1 node per bed instead of 2... like doors has
09:15 Shara I prefer doors using two, not one
09:16 Shara you actually can stop people lagging into buildings with two node doors
09:16 Fixer hi
09:16 tenplus1 but with beds it'll save an extra 15 nodes per colour :D
09:17 Shara hi Fixer
09:17 Shara single node locked doors may as well not be locked doors
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09:20 RoaryTiger Good morning tenplus1
09:21 tenplus1 hi Megaf
09:21 shivajiva Hiya Shara :)
09:21 Shara Hi Tiger
09:21 Megaf I was faster today
09:21 Shara Hi shivajiva :)
09:21 tenplus1 ehe...
09:21 shivajiva Hi Megaf, Fixer o/
09:22 Amaz Hi everyone :) (May as well say hi as that seems to be the current trend ;))
09:23 Shara Hi right back to you, Amaz :)
09:23 tenplus1 hi amaz
09:24 Megaf Hi Shara Amaz shivajiva \o
09:24 Amaz #minetest-greetings
09:24 Amaz :P
09:25 shivajiva Hi Amaz :)
09:25 CWz ello Amaz  and tens and shara and megaf and shivajiva
09:26 shivajiva Hi CWz :)
09:26 Amaz Hi CWz :)
09:26 Megaf greetings CWz
09:26 shivajiva CWz how do you pronounce your nick?
09:26 shivajiva like keerwizz?
09:27 tenplus1 hi CWz
09:27 CWz ChaosWormz; that's what stands for
09:27 tenplus1 turkish translation added to mobs redo
09:27 shivajiva ah xD
09:27 Megaf I read it see double u zee all the time
09:28 Shara Hi CWz :)
09:29 shivajiva tenplus1: the code looks more ordered like that :)
09:29 tenplus1 thanks shiva :P
09:29 tenplus1 saved a few kb doing it that way :D
09:29 Fixer am I stupid or smth, where do you see pages on books? I wrote a book, no pages for me...
09:29 Fixer or it is visible only on someone else book?
09:29 * CWz places a doughnut on cheapies head, and a dough not disturb sign.
09:30 shivajiva yea and fixed the issue hopefully
09:30 shivajiva lol I see 11 looking hungrily at the dognut
09:31 * tenplus1 sips hazelnut coffee
09:31 CWz Pages are automatically added when text gets too long. however, only none book owners can witness this marvellous and awe inspiring sight which has come to be known as pages in a book.
09:32 tenplus1 which has a glitch and erases the book when clicking < and > arrows on latest builds
09:32 shivajiva Fixer: someone else was was complaining a book had no pages to write on
09:33 tenplus1 it would be nice if formspec offered the use of fixed width fonts so we could resize book pages accordingly and offer that feature
09:33 CWz In all honesty stories are best written with a word processor rather than a formspec
09:33 CWz hmm word processor mod; is that possible?
09:34 tenplus1 you would need a getkey feature
09:36 CWz hmmm
09:38 tenplus1 who made the bed mod that only had 1 oversized node as a bed ???
09:38 tenplus1 I remember there being one
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09:58 tenplus1 hi fingle
09:59 Amaz Could you give fingle voice please? :)
09:59 Amaz Thanks ten :)
09:59 lordfingle ooo!
10:00 lordfingle I can speak!
10:00 * Shara will add to list
10:00 Shara hi lordfingle
10:00 tenplus1 :LP
10:00 * lordfingle looks around the modernised new hub building in wonder.
10:00 lordfingle Greetings!
10:00 * lordfingle wonders what the hell is going on.
10:01 * lordfingle looks suspiciously at the newly installed bar and jukebox.
10:01 * lordfingle sits.
10:01 lordfingle So, hows things?
10:01 * tenplus1 offers hazelnut coffee n donut
10:02 * lordfingle nibbles on the donut.
10:02 lordfingle Hmm not too bad I suppose.
10:02 lordfingle Where's all the hard liquor?
10:02 tenplus1 heh
10:02 lordfingle Don't tell me....the place has been bought up to date.
10:02 lordfingle I suppose it's kid friendly too?
10:02 tenplus1 might just be...
10:02 * lordfingle eyes the new ball pen suspiciously.
10:02 Shara We just hide the good stuff well.
10:03 * lordfingle knocks the robot bar tender on the head.  Wonders if it's in there?
10:04 * tenplus1 tests JP's mesh node beds :DDD
10:11 shivajiva Hi lordfingle, welcome to the hub :)
10:11 * lordfingle bows.
10:12 lordfingle So what's there to do in this hub?
10:12 tenplus1 game discussion, mod issues and design, donut feasts
10:13 Amaz And offtopic chat about anything under the sun (or above it, for that matter ;))
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10:14 tenplus1 hi DI3HARD139
10:15 DI3HARD139 Hello tenplus1
10:16 Shara Hi DI3HARD139
10:16 DI3HARD139 hello Shara
10:16 tenplus1 Xanadu server updated...   Shiva, that fixed the issue...  damn pointed_thing.above and pos didnt match
10:19 tenplus1 so on_place and on_construct may have different positions entirely
10:30 tenplus1 JP's BED mod and beds_plus (adds all colours and some fancy designs) is really good :D
10:31 tenplus1 afk
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11:38 tenplus1 wb Megaf
11:39 Megaf thanks
11:39 Megaf I'm in way too many channel, gotta leave some
11:39 Megaf and I want to join others
11:39 tenplus1 ehehe, am only in here now... same ppl in most minetest rooms
11:39 Megaf #centos @#minetest-offtopic #Minetest-Chat @#minetest-project +##ventures #ventures #openvz +#minetest-hub #openindiana #photogeeks ##photography #openmandriva-cooker #OpenMandriva-Br #openmandriva #osgrid @#Haiku-Br #haiku #beos #OpenHardware-Br #Wireless-Br #MegafServer #Megaf #minetest-dev #minetest
11:42 shivajiva tenplus1: That's good news bud, another one bites the dust :)
11:42 tenplus1 eheh...
11:43 Fixer *,....,*
11:43 Megaf This Is A Test
11:44 Megaf Ok, everybody smile for the screenshot
11:44 Megaf :D
11:44 tenplus1 testing... testing... 7... 8... 9 1/2
11:44 * shivajiva adds 262203.73 miles back to the odometer of the dash he's working on
11:44 tenplus1 :P
11:45 shivajiva who said TVR's don't go far from the factory ROFL
11:46 shivajiva might of had 3 engine rebuilds though xD
11:47 tenplus1 lotta rebuilds
11:48 Megaf http://i.imgur.com/2OpZH1r.png [Hexchat screenshot, nothing special to see here]
11:49 shivajiva 100bhp/litre naturally aspirated 3.6 litre engine has a high wear cycle
11:49 shivajiva and motorbike performance
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12:09 tenplus1 hi Jordach
12:11 Jordach meow
12:16 DI3HARD139 @shivajiva Did you make certain to do an LS swap as well?
12:16 DI3HARD139 :P
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12:17 tenplus1 hi RobbieF
12:17 DI3HARD139 Hello RobbieF
12:20 RobbieF hey you two!
12:20 RobbieF how are ya's
12:20 DI3HARD139 I am wonderful!
12:20 tenplus1 not bad thx, fixed hoppers finally :) how's you ?
12:20 RobbieF Doing great!
12:21 RobbieF On my new computer now too.
12:21 tenplus1 ooh, what spec did ya get ?
12:21 RobbieF 2x hexa core w/ 96 GB RAM
12:21 RobbieF 24 cores total
12:21 RobbieF https://twitter.com/RobbieFerg​uson/status/857278332685209600
12:22 tenplus1 o.O sweet jesus!!!!! skynet... it lives!!!
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12:22 tenplus1 hi nathan
12:22 RobbieF lol
12:22 NathanS21 hi tenplus1
12:22 DI3HARD139 Nice!. I'm saving up to get either a ThinkStation D30 (Currently running S30) or just an E5-2697 v2
12:23 tenplus1 I'll stick to my acer aspire net-top pc :P
12:23 DI3HARD139 I'm currently running an E5-2665 0 and 20GB ram
12:23 RobbieF I wish I could have one of these at my studio  :D
12:23 RobbieF but alas
12:23 RobbieF just an i7 there
12:23 tenplus1 btw robbie... I notices in the video that manglefox is using an old version of minetest
12:23 CWz ello RobbieF
12:23 RobbieF \o CWz! how are ya
12:24 RobbieF tenplus1 yes, we need to update that laptop but means the OS needs to be redone.
12:24 CWz 24 cores
12:24 CWz ?
12:24 RobbieF it's older.
12:24 RobbieF CWz 12 true cores + hyperthreading takes it to 24.
12:24 tenplus1 ahh, plop Xubuntu 17.04 onto it... really breathes new life into old lappys
12:24 CWz 12 cores!? those exist?
12:24 DI3HARD139 Pft. Try 22
12:25 DI3HARD139 E5-2699 v4 is a 22c chip :P
12:25 tenplus1 eek!
12:25 CWz is it good for gaming
12:25 CWz ?
12:25 DI3HARD139 IDK is it lol
12:25 DI3HARD139 IDK if the $4.5k USD price tag is good for gaming though :/
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12:26 tenplus1 wb ben
12:26 benrob0329 Hi ten
12:26 DI3HARD139 There's also the 24c Xeon E7-8894v4
12:27 CWz Xeons are for servers if recall
12:27 RobbieF No, this is Xeon
12:28 RobbieF Xeons != gaming - but that's not to say they have to be servers.
12:28 RobbieF Though I'm sure Xeon would game just fine - but very expensive for gaming as an i7 would probably game better.
12:29 tenplus1 ehehe, I has an Atom dual 1.8ghz HT
12:29 benrob0329 Hi DI3HARD139, RobbieF
12:29 RobbieF hi benrob0329
12:29 benrob0329 CWz
12:29 DI3HARD139 Hello benrob0329
12:31 DI3HARD139 My Xeon E5-2665 is between the i7-5820k and the i7-5960x in most games and benchmarks.
12:32 DI3HARD139 Despite being a sandy bridge EP
12:32 DI3HARD139 EX*
12:33 Fixer tenplus1: double "not tamed" message was fixed or not?
12:34 tenplus1 ooh, cant remember if I did that or not during api tweak...
12:36 Fixer tenplus1: also, when mob is protected with rune, it says "protected" and on next line "missed"
12:37 tenplus1 it jsut needs some return functions added when protected = true
12:37 tenplus1 or tamed = true
12:37 tenplus1 these are in mob definitions
12:40 Fixer tenplus1: do i need a rune for born sheep if parents are rune protected?
12:40 tenplus1 yes
12:40 tenplus1 onyl works per animal
12:41 tenplus1 am thinking of taking out the catch chance and just keeping lasso to catch mob 1st time
12:41 tenplus1 it's a pain missing
12:46 * CWz overclocks a sheep mob.
12:47 CWz tenplus1, mobs_redo is missing it version of the creeper. perhaps an exploding lizard
12:48 CWz an "explodizard"
12:48 tenplus1 we have a creeper :P retextured tree model that blows up... is a separate mod but link is in redo forum page
12:50 CWz a suicide bomber mod for justtest and pvp server. allow players to craft bombpants and then explode
12:50 CWz or "head bomb" so player could be come head bangers
12:50 * CWz losses his mind
12:54 tenplus1 when running a function with result, would it be better to return true/false or true/nil ?
13:01 tenplus1 Mobs Redo API updated, Mobs_Animals updated to reduct chat messages
13:04 tenplus1 also if I can get better textures for the horse then I'll add that to mobs_animal
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13:08 tenplus1 wb Megaf
13:10 benrob0329 CWz: I converted the tree monster creeper to the model and texture from the creeper mod
13:10 benrob0329 Its on the mobs_redo page somewhere
13:10 tenplus1 we use that model/texture on Xanadu... and really does creep players out when one appears :DDDD
13:11 benrob0329 Its like a suicide ninja
13:11 tenplus1 yup...  and mob api handles protection or water check so explosion doesnt cause too much damage... only hurts surrounding mobs and player
13:12 benrob0329 that's handy
13:12 benrob0329 Means I'm no longer afraid of em blowing up my house :P
13:12 Megaf I cant touch the wireless cable and the internet drops
13:12 tenplus1 might need to add direction vector for explosion punches now that we have knockbck on player
13:13 tenplus1 you must have a high static charge in your body Megaf
13:14 Megaf that's what she said
13:14 Megaf lol
13:14 Megaf tenplus1, the thing that locks the cable in place, the little tab is broken. So it doesnt have a very good contact
13:15 tenplus1 ow...  blu-tac to the rescue
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13:15 tenplus1 wb nrz
13:15 Megaf tenplus1, Shara, are you up for a meeting in Edinburgh?
13:15 Megaf me, a friend of mine, you guys and maybe someone else?
13:16 Megaf tenplus1, there is some blutac, thats how it works most of the time ;)
13:16 tenplus1 strangely am off to edinburgh today with friend to pick someone up from airport :) ahh
13:16 tenplus1 *hah
13:16 Megaf tenplus1, heh, cant be there today
13:17 Megaf unless you find some last moment cheap ticket from Dublin to there
13:17 tenplus1 lol... good point :)
13:17 Megaf if you find anything under 20 EUR I will be on my way
13:17 tenplus1 all comes down to time and work schedule unfortunately
13:20 tenplus1 Q. should picking up mobs only be done with net/lasso ???
13:21 CWz A. mob-e-balls too
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13:34 tenplus1 hi sniper
13:34 * CWz puts on his darwin danger shield
13:34 tenplus1 heh
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13:39 Shara Megaf: Wouldn't be against it if you get a few MTers interested in a meet, All depends on time and cost in the end
13:40 * Amaz would be up for it
13:40 Megaf so you all come to Dublin and lets meet for a pint.
13:40 Megaf "Just for one"
13:40 Shara I have at least four trips lined up for the rest of the year though, so cost is a bit of an issue
13:41 tenplus1 Fixer: animal and npc's wont display double lines now (hopefully) update api also
13:41 Fixer ty
13:42 tenplus1 also note, picking mob up with hand can only be an empty hand... cant be holding anything :PPPPP
13:42 tenplus1 net and lasso work as before
13:43 * Shara thinks meeting should be in Cardiff instead
13:43 tenplus1 so no more trying to catch bee or rat with pick in hand... need an empty hand and swift footing
13:43 * Shara hides
13:43 tenplus1 lol shara :D
13:43 tenplus1 the AOL meetup was typically held in Edinburgh also
13:43 Amaz Cardiff would be easier for me as well :P
13:44 tenplus1 ehehe
13:44 Shara We do seem to have a lot of UK people here, so it would be fun one day
13:44 tenplus1 Amterdam would be kewl :DDDDD  mwhehehe
13:44 * Shara been there too many times :P
13:44 * tenplus1 hasnt been (yet)
13:45 Shara I switch flights there a lot
13:45 tenplus1 lol, that doesnt count :PPPP
13:45 Shara Hoping to go tos ome new places this year though :)
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13:45 tenplus1 wb ben
13:45 Shara It does when you book the flights with a big gap ebwteen and go walkies to meet people :)
13:45 * tenplus1 is saving for Japan
13:45 Shara between*
13:45 Shara I'm probably headed to Malta sometime this summer, then possibly Moldova because why not?
13:46 tenplus1 nice
13:46 Jordach cardiff is like ~120mi from here
13:46 Jordach if not less
13:46 Amaz Very nice :)
13:46 Shara I'm not actually in Cardiff, but it's easy for me
13:47 * tenplus1 brings the donuts
13:49 Shara nomnom
13:49 tenplus1 back laters :PP
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13:49 Shara I think he's scared I'll steal all the doughnuts :)
13:50 Amaz :P
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14:14 benrob0329 Aww man, I wish I live in Europe..
14:14 benrob0329 Ill just have to visit sometime
15:05 red-002 lol oldcoder seems to think I care if people know I live in Ireland
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15:13 Amaz What does he mean that his MT would like to welcome you as a reader, red? I was puzzled when I saw that.
15:14 red-002 I regularly save a snapshot of his site so there is a record of all this
15:14 Amaz Ahh, okay :)
15:15 Amaz I thought that he meant that you read for them, or something like, rather than you read/visited the site :P *headdesk*
15:15 red-002 and I unbanned my ip address on -dev after I used it to test something that ended up getting it banned
15:16 red-002 I guess he managed to put two and two together
15:16 Amaz Heh
15:17 red-002 I would suggest routing top-fwz1.mail.ru to 127.0.0.1
15:17 red-002 seems to be OC's third-party tracker of choice
15:23 red-002 seems to be trying to do it
15:23 red-002 poorly
15:28 red-002 releasing information on people without permission is the definition of doxxing
15:41 red-002 it's not the first time he did something like this anyway https://web.archive.org/web/201​70427154057/http://75.98.169.36
15:42 red-002 archived incase he tries to take it down
15:42 red-002 in case*
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16:47 red-002 neat the ext4 driver for windows doesn't need a reboot to work
16:47 benrob0329 >windows
16:47 benrob0329 **TRIGGERED**
16:52 Jordach windows 10 already can run ubuntu apps
16:52 Jordach :^))))))
16:53 Fixer ubuntu apps?
16:53 Fixer what are those?
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16:53 Jordach ones compiled for Ubuntu distros
16:57 red-002 windows 10 has a subsystem that simulates the linux kernel
16:57 benrob0329 heh, that's cute
16:58 benrob0329 You know that FreeBSD has had linux compat for years, right?
16:58 rubenwardy you don't run Ubuntu to run Ubuntu apps
16:58 sofar you know that linux has a native PE32 execution stack right? no emulation?
16:58 red-002 yeah but its FreeBSD
16:59 benrob0329 so? Its still a Unix (not UNIX)
17:00 red-002 sofar, ?
17:02 benrob0329 red-002: http://wiki.osdev.org/PE
17:02 red-002 I know what PE is
17:02 red-002 since when can linux load them?
17:03 benrob0329 Well, Wine perhaps.
17:03 red-002 so emulation?
17:03 benrob0329 Not quite
17:03 benrob0329 Wine is a compat layer
17:03 red-002 same thing
17:04 benrob0329 The binary runs nativly
17:04 red-002 it emulates the api
17:04 red-002 instead of the whole system
17:04 benrob0329 Just the libraries are masked
17:04 benrob0329 "Emulated" infers hardware emulation
17:04 rubenwardy wrapper, not an emulator
17:05 red-002 well I guess you could describe the system windows is using as wine
17:05 benrob0329 Similarly FreeBSD (and NetBSD) both do something similar for Linux binaries
17:06 red-002 if wine just emulated the kernel
17:06 red-002 the userland is the same as ubuntu
17:06 benrob0329 No, wine wraps linux libs in a way windows programs will understand
17:06 benrob0329 Sometimes using actual dlls
17:07 red-002 so I guess it's similar but more low level?
17:07 benrob0329 Its not emulating, its wrapping
17:08 benrob0329 Nothing hardware wise is being emulated, and it still uses linux libs
17:08 benrob0329 You woulnt call say, gtkmm an emulater, would you/
17:08 red-002 well that's just semantics
17:09 benrob0329 The whole api is rewritten
17:09 red-002 let's just call both compatibility layers
17:12 benrob0329 (Offtopic, sfw) https://youtu.be/LtPKx4nZhUs
17:12 rubenwardy ofc it's semantics, emulate is a specific computer-related term
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17:26 Krock hi benrob0329
17:26 benrob0329 Hi Krock
17:26 Jordach benrob0329, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INnpnJvDXDg
17:27 benrob0329 Kek
17:27 Jordach he fixed the nintendo playstation prototype entirely
17:27 benrob0329 I just want to have a house filled with retro/style electronics everywhere
17:28 * Jordach looks at retro hi-fi
17:28 benrob0329 Old Unix terminals, 1950s radio, those weird slum tube tv things on stands
17:28 benrob0329 *slim
17:38 red-002 I see you can no longer connect to #minetest if you have an ident of "root"
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17:50 Jordach benrob0329, i love watching Ben Heck
17:55 benrob0329 don't we all?
17:55 Jordach i can tell he as a form of ASD
17:57 Jordach anyone with it does have a form of savantism irregardless, you just have to find it
18:32 * CWz gives Jordach 600 points for using irregardless, instead of regardless
18:33 CWz irregardless ftw!!
18:33 Jordach i've got incredible charisma
18:33 Jordach i'm autistic so i hate being social
18:34 benrob0329 I'm an introvert, so I don't hate being social, but I don't love it either
18:35 CWz Autism > Normal
18:35 CWz Who the hell wants to be 'Normal'
18:35 benrob0329 what's normal?
18:36 CWz being Normal is the act of being generic and not special or unique in anyway shape or form
18:37 CWz It's like if the government killed off all the people and then created a man and a woman our of 2 tamplates
18:37 CWz Steve and Jane
18:38 CWz so is anyone here a "Steve" or a "Jane"?
18:39 CWz No where did Zeno` run off too. he is the face of abnormality
18:40 CWz crap the steves must have got him
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18:40 CWz Welcome back.
18:41 CWz i figure that you managed to escape the Steves
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18:42 benrob0329 Gosh darnit
18:44 CWz Why were you put in time out?
18:44 benrob0329 Idk, must've done something
18:52 benrob0329 This is what us geeks live for: https://youtu.be/PGHZJQ5DNx0
18:54 CWz I wouldn't go that far
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18:56 * CWz throws an irc-e-ball at RobbieF
18:57 CWz dammit it broke. *goes to the irc-mart to stock up on irc-e-balls*
18:57 CWz must have low catch rate
18:58 benrob0329 RobbieF: https://youtu.be/PGHZJQ5DNx0
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19:13 CWz dat link made him left
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19:38 benrob0329 Hi paramat, nerzhul
19:39 nerzhul hi benrob0329
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19:45 Fixer still no crash on gdb :/
19:45 Fixer playing with 8 fps is annoying
19:45 VanessaE it's not often someone could be disappointed at something *not* crashing :P
19:46 Fixer i'm dissapointed since there were 2 crashes in 2 days (segfault on windows), that is unusually often, so I moved to debug
19:53 shivajiva bump https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/5622
19:55 Fixer shivajiva: this bump must go into -dev
20:03 CWz Fixer, is it a server?
20:03 Fixer CWz: pepecraft? yes
20:04 CWz and it's hosted on windows?
20:04 Fixer no idea
20:08 garywhite From my understanding, Windows is not very good at hosting MT servers
20:09 rubenwardy it's not good for hosting any server
20:09 red-001 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5059
20:09 rubenwardy it's not good for anything
20:09 rubenwardy #controversial
20:09 red-001 pretty bad idea
20:10 red-001 someone on windows should check if it's still an issue after the recent changes
20:11 Fixer there is already player data in database available, should not be in issue
20:14 red-001 Fixer, file "database" is still the default
20:14 Fixer red-001: what you say?
20:14 Fixer (tm)
20:14 nerzhul just use database backend and it will be fixed
20:14 Fixer red-001: yes, it is default, but can be switched to database
20:20 red-001 why isn't sqlite the default anyway?
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20:23 nerzhul red-001, backward compat on 0.4.16, with a warning, next release make it default and auto merge
20:23 nerzhul auto migrate*
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20:25 benrob0329 Wb RobbieF
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22:09 Fixer *,.....,*
22:12 red-001 Fixer, ?
22:12 Fixer internet problems
22:13 red-001 oh
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22:38 benrob0329 Hello
22:39 Fixer https://i.imgur.com/bzXBXY0.png uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck
22:39 Fixer wrong channel, but still
22:41 benrob0329 Fixer: ?
22:41 Fixer so damn triggered right now https://i.imgur.com/lfmxyYB.png
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22:59 Jordach Fixer, need a hand ;)
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23:29 Fixer 98286a2
23:47 Fixer ^good
23:48 Fixer 4c03190 - bad
23:50 Fixer 6120251 - good
23:50 Fixer hmmm
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