IRC log for #minetest-hub, 2017-04-03

Time	Nick	Message
00:13	rubenwardy	Jordach: I can't see anything on your server
00:13	Jordach	rubenwardy, /intro_warp
00:16	rubenwardy	Jordach: http://pasteboard.co/R1AcLBUmo.png
00:16	Jordach	rubenwardy, it's a silly bug i left in
00:16	Jordach	leaving beds stays like that until you move
00:16	Jordach	(highly likely)
00:22	paramat	i keep typing 'map_meat.txt' =/
00:22	Jordach	he
00:22	Jordach	he
00:23	* Jordach	is doing botanical research
00:28	TommyTreasure	it certainly is the correct time of year for that (northern hemisphere)
00:29	Jordach	https://github.com/Jordach/Solar_Plains/issues/6 ^
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08:44	Shara	Good morning
08:47	shivajiva	Morning
08:47	Amaz	Hello :)
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10:51	Shara	Hi Megaf
10:52	* Megaf	roars
10:52	Shara	Welcome to the hub, roary tiger :)
10:52	shivajiva	Hi Megaf :)
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10:55	Shara	Hi Zeno` :)
10:56	Zeno`	hi
10:58	shivajiva	welcome :)
11:13	Jordach	meow
11:13	Jordach	hehe
11:14	Jordach	server hasn't crashed all night
11:14	Shara	Jordach: Meow!
11:16	Shara	I need to spy again soon.
11:16	Shara	I need more spare time! :(
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11:34	* Jordach	loves the handy calendar date system
11:34	Jordach	http://i.imgur.com/P4IFbd2.png
11:34	* Shara	wants the trees
11:35	Shara	Or well, kind of always wanted cherry trees
11:42	* CWz	transforms Shara into a tree
11:44	* Shara	shakes leaves at CWz
11:58	* Jordach	panic()
11:59	Jordach	>kills updated comment on issue #6
11:59	Jordach	>reloads chrome
11:59	Jordach	>hopes on ctrl + shift + t
11:59	Jordach	>it's there
12:17	Fixer	https://i.imgur.com/3BWHgpo.png omg
12:19	Fixer	https://i.imgur.com/wNzsEuS.png wtf is that... that russian is very strange
12:19	Fixer	like neural networks + ads
12:23	nerzhul	hi Zeno`
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12:46	Shara	Fixer: If I try to read that my head will explode.
12:46	Shara	Hi RobbieF :)
12:47	Fixer	Shara: it is random latters and a ad spam at the end of the message
12:48	RobbieF	Hey there Shara
12:48	RobbieF	Hope you had a nice weekend!
12:48	Shara	Reading any russian, even when I can understand it, makes my head explode
12:50	Fixer	slavic languages are like that
12:51	Fixer	Shara: try hungarian
12:52	Shara	Fixer: Yes, I recall that the word for a swan sounds like a sneeze, and that you need to be completely sober if you hope to say 'cheers' correctly (and not sober to dare to attempt it)
12:54	Fixer	https://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magyar_nyelv
12:57	* Shara	suffers instant death by hungarian
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13:00	Shara	Fixer: I have relatives there and used to visit there most summers. So I heard a lot of hungarian.
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13:50	benrob0329	Hello
13:57	benrob0329	(Offtopic, but cool) https://youtu.be/VKCFDBPvJ74
13:58	Megaf	!title
13:58	* Megaf	looks at
13:58	Megaf	nobody
13:58	* Shara	feels lack of bot
14:00	benrob0329	Its on why the power symbol (and consequently, almost all electronic symbols) came to be
14:01	benrob0329	Come to find out, the mac command key symbol is actually part of a standard
14:05	benrob0329	Does this fully replace -project?
14:05	benrob0329	Like, can I remove -project from my autojoin list?
14:06	sfan5	in theory yes
14:06	Jordach	lmao
14:06	shivajiva	xD
14:06	* Jordach	's Technics BTFO a Logitech woofer
14:17	RobbieF	benrob0329 way back in the day you were looking to do equirectangular view in Minetest, right? Any success ever establishing that?
14:18	RobbieF	(I think that was you?)
14:20	* benrob0329	grabs a dictionary
14:20	RobbieF	360 video benrob0329
14:20	benrob0329	Ah, yes
14:20	benrob0329	No
14:20	RobbieF	That's what the lay people call it
14:20	RobbieF	lol
14:20	RobbieF	hmm, I thought that was you. Oh well.
14:21	benrob0329	it was me
14:21	RobbieF	oh
14:21	RobbieF	lol
14:21	RobbieF	okay then
14:21	RobbieF	so no luck then.
14:21	RobbieF	It is well needed...
14:21	benrob0329	unfortunately, no
14:21	RobbieF	Really would be a standout feature for sure.
14:21	RobbieF	if spherical video output would be amazing.
14:22	RobbieF	or full equirectangular.
14:22	RobbieF	Then, I'd make The Pixel Shadow a 360 experience.
14:22	RobbieF	but alas...
14:22	RobbieF	So I'm thinking maybe I'll just do 180 degree (since it's supported) and then make it so you can look left and right while viewing.
14:23	benrob0329	If there was a way to link players together in a smooth way, you could use a 90 degree fov and stitch it together
14:23	RobbieF	neah, it's not possible.
14:23	RobbieF	the slightest lag on one or the other and you're doomed
14:23	RobbieF	the two players would have to be SO exactly synced.
14:24	RobbieF	The only "real" option here would be if Minetest itself could be run in equirectangular view.
14:25	benrob0329	I think that's difficult with irrlicht
14:25	RobbieF	:(
14:25	RobbieF	hehe
14:25	RobbieF	well, we can dream.
14:25	RobbieF	for now, Minetest doesn't work on my goggles.
14:28	benrob0329	I have realised that Minecraft has a lot of little things that make it feel more alive
14:28	benrob0329	For eg, smoke from a torch
14:29	benrob0329	or a 3d lock on a chest
14:29	Jordach	benrob0329, Solar Plains CSM is already working on that
14:30	RobbieF	yeah for sure benrob0329
14:30	Shara	fake_fire already does smoke, as does my fire mod, but it could certainly be better
14:30	RobbieF	For me it's the lens flares from the sun that make me nerdgasm over minecraft vs. minetest :D
14:30	Shara	Personally I'd kill for a really good weather mod
14:30	RobbieF	I like shaders... what can I say?
14:30	RobbieF	and YES re. weather
14:31	Shara	weather + good water shaders and I'd just.... I don't know. But I'd just something
14:31	benrob0329	A world-wide particle effect would be handy
14:31	Shara	I tried to mess about with water shaders once already but really got nowhere
14:33	Shara	Moving skyboxes is the other thing
14:33	benrob0329	I think a lot of us have tbh
14:33	Shara	It's great that we can switch out the sun/moon, but I'd like to be able to change the sky and still have a moving sun/moon
14:34	benrob0329	yeah, that'd be handy too
14:34	benrob0329	Perhaps if particle spawners could be scaled?
14:35	benrob0329	Then you'd have a single spawner per mapblock
14:35	* Shara	quietly inserts some moans about coloured lighting and then find sa hole to crawl into
14:35	benrob0329	Colored lighting would be hard
14:36	Shara	That's why my moan about it is quiet :)
14:36	benrob0329	entity shadows
14:37	benrob0329	Could just be a shader
14:38	benrob0329	A 32x32 default texture pack might help
14:39	Fixer	reproduced the bug on one more build
14:40	benrob0329	Grass occasionally growing taller
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14:46	benrob0329	Having dropped items do something other than just spin might help
14:47	* benrob0329	is just throwing things out that he sees
14:47	benrob0329	I'm watching a freinds mc lp
14:48	benrob0329	Custom fonts
14:48	benrob0329	And a pixely one for mtg
14:49	Shara	Please no ughy hard to read fonts
14:49	benrob0329	Not ugly
14:49	benrob0329	Jusy enough to hint at it
14:49	Shara	ughy and ugly are different :P
14:49	Shara	Some people find the slightest change from a 'normal font' difficult to read
14:50	benrob0329	Jordach: when night skip happens, speed up time
14:50	benrob0329	that'd make it look a lok better
14:50	benrob0329	*lot
14:50	* Shara	goes back to thinking about things to do with skyboxes
14:53	benrob0329	If we can polish a lot of the small things, minetest would look a lot better
14:55	benrob0329	If only selection boxes could animate..
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14:55	shivajiva	benrob you're correct lots of small things add up to a polished look and feel, probably not as prioritised as fixing bugs at this stage though
14:55	benrob0329	Then we could have it move with the dropped item
14:56	benrob0329	I'm willing to help, ofc
14:56	shivajiva	:)
14:56	benrob0329	I can help with things on luu side, unfortunately I can't when it comes to c++
14:56	benrob0329	*lua
14:57	benrob0329	As well as meshes
14:57	benrob0329	And animations
14:57	shivajiva	good to know
14:58	benrob0329	(Animations are not my strong suit, but I can do them)
14:58	benrob0329	Is there a way to make boads client side?
14:59	benrob0329	*boats
15:00	shivajiva	Idk, I need to start looking at csm
15:02	benrob0329	Perhaps if there was a way to have a 3d hud element (which would double as a way to make nice looking maps)
15:03	benrob0329	What if boats were attached to the player?
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15:03	benrob0329	And the player had mobified physics?
15:03	benrob0329	*modified
15:04	benrob0329	If there a float physics override?
15:05	shivajiva	hi ruben, again I don't know benrob but someone here will
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15:05	* benrob0329	thinks about adding a paddleing animation
15:06	WhoAreYou	Hello all. How's everyone? :)
15:06	benrob0329	Good
15:07	shivajiva	WAY!
15:07	shivajiva	Good to see you :D
15:08	WhoAreYou	Thanks shiva. :)
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15:24	benrob0329	An ambiance api for the csm would be awesome
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15:38	benrob0329	How dificult would is be to add an ambiance table to nodedef?
15:39	shivajiva	tenplus was discussing sounds with c55 with regard to adding them like textures
15:39	rubenwardy	benrob0329: trivial
15:39	rubenwardy	what's difficult is playing those ambient sounds
15:40	benrob0329	The client could play them
15:40	benrob0329	probably per mapchunk
15:41	benrob0329	take the node that there is the most of, and see if it has and ambiance in common with the next one down
15:42	benrob0329	if it does, play it
15:42	benrob0329	Is there are multiple in common, go down on the list
15:43	benrob0329	And if all else fails choose one from the slimmed down list at random
15:43	benrob0329	Or it could be a radius
15:44	benrob0329	It would be cool if it could change when you enter a building, but that may be difficult
15:45	nerzhul	benrob0329: you don't need meta if you use CSM because you already know which node is around
15:45	benrob0329	Not meta, nodedef
15:45	benrob0329	It would be defined per node
15:45	nerzhul	and you can have a client side property map
15:46	benrob0329	Yes, but then the mod has to have knowledge of all nodes
15:46	benrob0329	Rather than all nodes giving knowledge to the mod
15:48	benrob0329	rubenwardy: could an ambiance table be added, and get_ambiance with it?
15:48	benrob0329	Id love to try my hand at an ambiance mode client side
15:49	nerzhul	yes, it can be nice, and lightweight because mods can populate it server side and client if he has mod can read it and do something with it, but it's a wrong way i think, i think you don't need server side informations for this
15:50	benrob0329	If its in nodedef you don't have to add any funky apis
15:50	sofar	I'd code ambiance as node sounds, just code local node -> sound tables
15:50	Fixer	why can't you play sounds via engine?
15:51	sofar	the problem is that not all the bits are in place yet to do this
15:51	benrob0329	that's even worse, then every node will want to play a sound!
15:51	sofar	Fixer: you can, but it's slow
15:51	red-001	you should be able to get most of the nodedef data
15:51	benrob0329	And ambiance shouldn't be connected to the world
15:51	sofar	benrob0329: that's if you do it dumb
15:51	red-001	since thats sent to the client by the server
15:51	red-001	but you can't get custom nodedef data
15:51	sofar	ambiance shouldn't be playing on servers where sounds are part of the game experience
15:52	sofar	so ambiance needs to know about the world
15:52	sofar	what if you have a steampunk server, and now your ambiance is playing "Enya"
15:52	sofar	but your steampunk server is playing "Rammstein"
15:53	nerzhul	benrob0329: if server sent information about sounds to client, CSM is not needed in fact... the objective to CSM is that you should have this information purely client side :)
15:53	sofar	(at the same time)
15:53	benrob0329	then the ambiance would choose from a sound in the nodedef
15:53	sofar	there needs to be some collusion
15:53	benrob0329	Which would be moddified
15:54	sofar	the best thing would be for the server to communicate, not to randomly set nodedefs
15:54	benrob0329	Why make it so that the ambiance mod has to have everything pre defined in the mod itself?
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15:54	sofar	even better if the client doesn't have random mods, but we get some from the server
15:54	benrob0329	Right
15:55	benrob0329	or ambiance is eventually put into the enginr
15:55	benrob0329	Thus why you'd want it to be in nodedef
15:57	sofar	putting stuff in the nodedef would make more complex things harder
15:59	benrob0329	Such as?
16:00	sofar	well for starters, you'd have to scan every nodedef for every node just to figure out which ones need special sounds
16:01	sofar	but more importantly, it's the wrong angle
16:01	sofar	CSM sounds are about the local player
16:01	sofar	so whatever you do, it should be focussing on the position of the local player in the world
16:02	sofar	so a logical approach isn't to look at all the blocks in the world
16:02	sofar	it's just to look at the nodes around the local player position
16:02	sofar	and right now:
16:02	sofar	1) CSM doesn't have local player object handle, and no getpos()
16:02	sofar	2) sounds can't be played positional in CSM
16:03	sofar	both are known bugs
16:03	benrob0329	ambiance shouldn't be positional
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16:03	sofar	dripping water? torch sounds?
16:03	sofar	yes, it should be
16:03	benrob0329	Those yes
16:03	sofar	better fire sounds?
16:03	benrob0329	I'm talking ambiant music
16:04	sofar	just do music server side
16:04	sofar	there's no benefit to doing it client side, almost
16:04	benrob0329	when I say ambiant sounds, I mean water etc, when I say ambiance in general, i probably mean music
16:05	benrob0329	The server then has to scan every node around the client for every client
16:05	benrob0329	Thus why I didn't want to do it server side
16:05	sofar	but your music plays for how long? minutes at end?
16:05	benrob0329	not always
16:05	benrob0329	It woukd change as the player moves
16:06	sofar	imho music in MT is kind of silly
16:06	sofar	it's going to be wrong pretty often
16:06	benrob0329	maybe, maybe not
16:06	benrob0329	thus the logic I purposed
16:06	sofar	plus CSM music is going to be terrible
16:06	sofar	imagine you're playing CTF
16:06	sofar	and now enya plays again
16:07	sofar	just because there's a cute flower on the ctf map :)
16:07	sofar	your team is getting murdered, blood everywhere
16:07	sofar	and that damn flute harmony
16:07	sofar	music should be a subgame specified thing
16:08	sofar	all sounds, for that matter
16:09	sofar	anyway, I just coded up a nice algorithm for torch, fire, water etc. sounds earlier this week
16:09	sofar	I'll port it to CSM when the two bugs mentioned above get fixed
16:11	benrob0329	Thus why I said to have it in nodedef
16:11	benrob0329	And one flower wouldn't change the music
16:12	benrob0329	It would take all nodes into account
16:13	red-001	benrob0329, that would be really expensive to compute all the time
16:14	sofar	I'm not so sure
16:14	sofar	I can do it server side pretty cheaply
16:14	sofar	and there I'm doing it for all players
16:15	red-001	I might be wrong then
16:16	benrob0329	If its in nodedef, it could be moved to c++ eventually as well
16:16	benrob0329	As then its already an api
16:17	red-001	the issue with a nodedefs is that you would need to add a new field to nodedefs on the c++ side of things
16:17	red-001	which will only be used by lua code
16:18	red-001	iirc, I could be wrong about the way nodedefs work
16:18	benrob0329	but then it could be written in lua, and moved to c++
16:18	benrob0329	Once the logic was right
16:19	red-001	it just feels like bad design
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16:33	benrob0329	I suppose the api could be faked in lua
16:37	Fixer	silver sandstone is excellent for walls: https://i.imgur.com/UbKSOBG.png
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16:43	TommyTreasure	+1 on silver sandstone
16:47	Fixer	plasmalamp is not animated in krocks debug build....
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16:48	VanessaE	Fixer: plasmalamp needs a new drawtype/model anyway. using framedglass drawtype sucks
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16:57	Fixer	oh, catching fps drop bug in debug build is gonna be tough
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17:12	Krock	hello everyone
17:13	benrob0329-phone	Hi krock
17:14	Krock	new video! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMyqQWcAuKM
17:15	benrob0329-phone	I'm not even maf
17:15	benrob0329-phone	*mad
17:16	Krock	it's a good video. He's almost smoothmcgroove with kazoo
17:20	benrob0329-phone	https://youtu.be/CZlfbep2LdU
17:23	Shara	Hi Krock
17:25	Krock	hello Shara :)
17:27	benrob0329-phone	When kazoo kid grows up: https://youtu.be/-Sb1GtrajwQ
17:37	TommyTreasure	Krock, just have to post the first on facebook!
17:38	Krock	TommyTreasure, facebook? that thing that was a thing some years ago?
17:40	TommyTreasure	i'm a semi-retired musician, and one of the groups i was with had a female vocalist that was pretty darn good on the kazoo. just my way to let her know i'm thinking of her. lol
17:48	* CWz	is trying to figure out what's the difference between seeking justice and seeking revenge
17:50	TommyTreasure	same thing, except justice is legal
17:51	TommyTreasure	kind of like the difference between cops and criminals. cops just haven't been caught.
17:52	benrob0329-phone	Wut
17:53	TommyTreasure	lol
17:53	CWz	yes but whats the difference between a cop, police officer and an officer of the law?
17:54	TommyTreasure	personal taste in donuts?
17:54	CWz	i think so.
17:56	Shara	Annnnd.... someone said the d-word again!
17:56	Shara	I really need to go and buy some :)
17:56	TommyTreasure	sorry :)
17:59	Jordach	Shara, where do you live
17:59	Jordach	lmao
18:00	Shara	Jordach: Clearly not close enough to doughnuts.
18:01	TommyTreasure	good thing i didn't say chocolate strawberry cheesecake
18:05	shivajiva	NY baked vanilla cheesecake anyone, it's on it's last day so help yourselves :)
18:06	shivajiva	pot of cream is in the fridge if reqd.
18:07	benrob0329-phone	I prefer chocolate ice cream cake myself
18:07	TommyTreasure	i'll be right over
18:08	benrob0329-phone	Tbh I might be closest to NYC XD
18:08	benrob0329-phone	Being in Michigan and all
18:08	TommyTreasure	no prob, i walk fast
18:08	benrob0329-phone	XD
18:09	TommyTreasure	and in a few hours, i may be just toasted enough to try!
18:09	benrob0329-phone	Can you swim fast though?
18:09	shivajiva	you may have to cross an ocean for it tommy if ur not in the UK
18:09	TommyTreasure	no prob, i have a rowboa
18:09	TommyTreasure	rowboat, even
18:10	shivajiva	see you in 3 months XD
18:10	benrob0329-phone	just use a tardis
18:10	TommyTreasure	exactly!
18:10	benrob0329-phone	Or a travelnet
18:10	TommyTreasure	needs coords
18:11	benrob0329-phone	Long/Lat should work
18:11	benrob0329-phone	Do you know how to fly one?
18:11	TommyTreasure	fly one? not today. today is dedicated to tie one, as in tie one on
18:12	benrob0329-phone	http://doctorwho.answers.wikia.com/wiki/How_do_you_fly_the_tardis
18:12	benrob0329-phone	There
18:13	benrob0329-phone	Since nobody seems to keep the manual
18:13	TommyTreasure	sure wish they'd find someone with the lost episodes
18:13	benrob0329-phone	that'd be nice
18:13	benrob0329-phone	But keeping new who alive might be more important
18:14	shivajiva	heh someone from the bbc will have them in their attic
18:15	benrob0329-phone	Just like, "oh that's where those went"
18:15	TommyTreasure	from what i read, most of the originals were destroyed :(
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18:16	benrob0329-phone	I just want bbc to restore and rerelease what we have now
18:16	benrob0329-phone	Some of the dvd prices are outrageous
18:17	shivajiva	it's a hard premise to swallow given the amount of engineers around, we love collecting souvenirs, copies etc
18:18	TommyTreasure	but those people would have to admit they stole them
18:19	benrob0329-phone	At this point, who would care?
18:20	benrob0329-phone	They helped DW survive
18:20	shivajiva	kept them for safekeeping would seem an appropriate defence at this point
18:21	benrob0329-phone	Or they could sneak them into the office
18:32	* Fixer	looks at trackers
18:33	Fixer	280 GB download, okay
18:38	benrob0329-phone	You know your a geek when your reading the tardis technical index
18:38	benrob0329-phone	Another danger involves the relativity circuit of the temporal balancing governor. If the default temporal recursion algorithms of this circuit and the back-up circuits are disrupted the TARDIS will accelerate backwards in time at a tremendous rate. The TARDIS must be brought under control using the velocity override before the speed exceeds six and a half googol years per metasecond or the ship will collide with Event One and be destroyed.
18:40	TommyTreasure	of course, that theory has been fully tested
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18:42	benrob0329-phone	Too bad flighty things don't work so well in minetest
18:42	benrob0329-phone	Or actual vortex flight could be done
18:45	benrob0329-phone	Well, I suppose it could be done
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18:49	Shara	Anyone else seeing a sudden increase in names followed by three numbers on servers?
18:49	Shara	I guess it's another 'Sadie' client.
18:49	TommyTreasure	yes, and what looks like random names. most seem to time out though
18:50	TommyTreasure	is there a way to detect client id?
18:50	Shara	My servers are being flooded by them
18:51	Shara	Don't think so
18:52	nore	Shara: is it a good or a bad thing though?
18:52	nore	(I guess the use of "flooded" means bad, but...)
18:54	Shara	Well, they just time out
18:54	Shara	So their presense is kind of pointless.
18:54	nore	however, you could disallow names ending with 3 numbers
18:54	nore	ah, yeah
18:54	nore	those android clients again
18:54	Shara	There is always the danger to catch some real players then
18:55	Shara	Last time this happened, a couple of them did have more powerful devices and ended up as regulars for quite a while
18:56	nore	ah, yeah
18:56	nore	there should be a way to detect whether a client will time out
18:56	nore	hmm
18:57	Shara	My Creative server isn't the lightest. It's not really for mobile players.
18:57	Shara	I don't mind those that can manage to play but... in general it's just a mess of constant joins and timeouts, which can put a bit of pressure on the server as well.
18:58	Shara	Or at least it used to, until I started stealing space from RobbieF for remote media :P
19:00	TommyTreasure	i was thinking of adding this. https://github.com/ShadowNinja/name_restrictions/blob/master/init.lua
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19:13	Fixer	this needs checking https://i.imgur.com/6Yf7tkP.png
19:15	Megaf_	Can we talk offtopic here?
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19:15	* Megaf_	roars at Shara
19:15	tenplus1	hi folks
19:15	Megaf_	Hello eleven
19:16	tenplus1	hi Megaf
19:16	Megaf_	tenplus1, can we talk off topic in here?
19:16	tenplus1	yeah, am sure it's kewl :0
19:16	Megaf_	cool
19:16	Megaf_	so I just made one of the online tests
19:17	Megaf_	to see who/what you are
19:17	Megaf_	and this is the result, wait for it
19:17	Megaf_	"Easy on the eyes, you're not just another pretty face. You've got guts, grit, and drive. You're everywhere and anywhere help is needed. Sweet and tenacious, you're a tough but fair leader."
19:17	tenplus1	so not what ice cream flavour you are :P?
19:18	Megaf_	http://brainfall.com/quizzes/whats-your-top-gun-call-sign/
19:18	Megaf_	That's the test
19:19	* tenplus1	clicks
19:19	Megaf_	I'm Baywatch
19:19	tenplus1	it doesnt work
19:19	tenplus1	clicking an answer does nothing
19:20	tenplus1	lemmie try another browser
19:20	Shara	Megaf_: off topic is mostly fine, just use common sense. If something important (like doughnuts!!) if under discussion, you should wait until that's dealt with first :P
19:20	Shara	is*
19:20	tenplus1	hi shara
19:20	Megaf_	hm
19:21	Megaf_	well, I'm a bread baker, I bake bread. I love baking bread.
19:21	TommyTreasure	jelly or creme filled?
19:21	* Megaf_	will not joke about donuts
19:21	tenplus1	bavarian cream :P
19:21	Megaf_	well played
19:21	Shara	TommyTreasure: both :P
19:22	Shara	Hi tenplus1
19:22	TommyTreasure	<< neither will he
19:22	tenplus1	hi tommy
19:22	TommyTreasure	just need to find the correct wine to go with them
19:22	Megaf	+1
19:22	TommyTreasure	^5s tenplus1
19:23	Megaf	wow, it took me like 5 seconds to understand "^5s"
19:23	Megaf	That's actually clever
19:23	TommyTreasure	on the other hand, i will joke about wine, only because i really do enjoy the cheap stuff
19:23	* Shara	spies on the spies who don't ask for voice, and wonders why they spy when there's a log anyway
19:24	Megaf	I wonder how did they get here in the first place
19:24	Shara	It's logged the same place the other official MT channels are
19:25	Megaf	Ok, so I better not say that I'm dating that famous girl and that I got a job that pays me 400k pounds/year and that I live in Hawaii
19:26	Shara	No, you better not :)
19:26	Megaf	And tomorrow I will be going to the main Apple Store in San Francisco, on my private jet. To buy some new MacBook Pros to every single Minetest contributor.
19:27	Megaf	all of them maxed out
19:27	TommyTreasure	that one needs a meme
19:27	Megaf	And will pay in cache, of course
19:27	tenplus1	Your "Top Gun" call sign is Vapor! - You're there, then gone, but you always leave something good behind. You're intellectual, lofty, and an abstract thinker. You float above others' heads, but you're warm, and always welcoming.
19:28	Megaf	That's actually quite ncie
19:28	Megaf	nice*
19:28	tenplus1	:P
19:28	Megaf	tenplus1, let me guess, you chose the Tesla
19:28	tenplus1	nope
19:28	tenplus1	aston martin
19:28	Megaf	it would be my second guess
19:29	Megaf	I went for the Lambo
19:29	tenplus1	ehehe, am too practical for my own good :D
19:30	Megaf	heh
19:31	Megaf	this is my current desktop setup. http://i.imgur.com/CJQd6uz.png
19:31	Megaf	(screenshot)
19:31	Megaf	that is
19:31	tenplus1	Tigerrrrrrrrr
19:31	Megaf	Of course
19:31	Shara	Hmm, not sure what I think of my result to that quiz
19:32	Megaf	Shara, would you share with us please?
19:32	Shara	Your "Top Gun" call sign is Gangsta!
19:32	Shara	>.>
19:32	tenplus1	:PPP
19:32	Megaf	Shara, "You're bad to the bone, in a good way. You don't put up with anything, but you always put out ability and effort when needed. You believe respect is earned and take anyone who doesn't show it down a peg."
19:32	Megaf	^ = Gangsta
19:33	Shara	Maybe it's not too far from the truth.
19:33	tenplus1	ehe
19:33	Megaf	Shara, I actually think this quiz is spot on
19:35	Shara	I will now spend the rest of the night wondering if I am bad or good
19:35	Megaf	you are bad, in a good way, Shara
19:36	* Megaf	listens to Bad To The Bone in his head
19:36	* Megaf	sings
19:36	tenplus1	dangerzone here
19:36	Megaf	I've chosen dangerzone too
19:36	* Megaf	opens youtube to play danerzone
19:36	Megaf	dangerzone*
19:37	Megaf	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siwpn14IE7E
19:37	Megaf	"Kenny Loggins - Danger Zone" ^
19:37	Megaf	Those Tomcats <3
19:38	* Megaf	wonders if Shara'd seen whats his using as wallpaper
19:38	Shara	It's the only suitable thing for you to use :P
19:39	Shara	My own has a cat and a substancial amoutn of red :)
19:39	Shara	amount*
19:39	WhoAreYou	Your "Top Gun" call sign is Syndrome! You're opinionated and emotional - a phenomenon and a true force of nature. Impactful, thorough, and hard-hitting, you make your presence felt long after you're gone.
19:39	* WhoAreYou	wasn't expecting that :)
19:39	Shara	:D
19:39	Megaf	WhoAreYou, well, now you know who we are and who you are yourself.
19:40	WhoAreYou	You know nothing, heheheh. :)
19:40	Megaf	WhoAreYou, now you are IKnowUs
19:41	Megaf	eleven, are you into tigers too?
19:41	Megaf	10+1^
19:41	tenplus1	tigers, nah... will show you my desky tho
19:41	Megaf	you should definitely add highlights to eleven and 10+1 and 10p1
19:42	* RoaryTiger	roars and goes to Shara
19:42	Shara	:D
19:42	Shara	RoaryTiger: msotly he needs them for 11
19:43	TommyTreasure	i'd show mine, but my girlfriend would kill me
19:43	Shara	mostly*
19:43	RoaryTiger	TommyTreasure, is she here?
19:43	tenplus1	My Lubuntu 17.04 desktop: http://i68.tinypic.com/xds1hc.jpg
19:43	TommyTreasure	no, but she's in my (almost) direct view. :)
19:44	RoaryTiger	TommyTreasure, well, put it here anyways
19:44	sfan5	tenplus1: now you only need to start using a decent image hosting site
19:44	RoaryTiger	I'm not surprised with your desktop 11
19:45	tenplus1	eheheh, my adblocker works great, tinypic is fast for me... imgurl sucks
19:45	Shara	Or send the link 'just' for the image
19:45	RoaryTiger	I had some hentai desktops when I was younger
19:45	rubenwardy	pasteboard.co
19:45	RoaryTiger	is there ads in that ting?
19:45	TommyTreasure	i've done some stupid computer antics in my past, but this one stays!
19:45	tenplus1	that one is anime :P
19:45	sofar	tinypic is blocked at my work
19:45	sfan5	tenplus1: despite an adblocker tinypic takes 2 seconds to load the image IF it loads at all
19:46	Shara	sfan5: that's weird, because it loads instantly for me
19:46	sofar	if my company blocks it... it's really not OK
19:47	* RoaryTiger	will try to find his desktops with japanese like "cartoon" girls.
19:47	sfan5	nope it doesn't even load after the first time
19:47	Shara	actually, on checkingit a second time, it seems broken
19:47	benrob0329-phone	Hi ten
19:47	Shara	checking it*
19:47	sfan5	now it works again
19:48	sfan5	tenplus1: also this isn't a thing of "i use an adblocks works for me"
19:48	sfan5	if you post links to ad-filled image hosters that don't even work properly nobody will want to look at your images
19:48	RoaryTiger	tenplus1, I'm wait nerdier. https://www.flickr.com/photos/megaf/4689390166/in/dateposted/
19:49	RoaryTiger	"Uploaded on June 10, 2010"
19:49	tenplus1	lol, my meaning what that tinypic works well for me because of the adblock... it's faster than imgurl... only reason I use it
19:49	Fixer	oh
19:49	Fixer	tidyman
19:49	sfan5	just use imgur
19:49	Fixer	tenplus1: here is something to check for you: https://i.imgur.com/6Yf7tkP.png / hometown server, probably farming redo, some crops got corrupted, probably by grass trying to grow over it (there were changes in mtg)
19:50	Fixer	tenplus1: tinypic is ---------------------------------- slow
19:50	sofar	well, not everyone can go to tinypic
19:50	Fixer	tinypic is cancer
19:50	Fixer	slow as cancer
19:50	Fixer	has garbage on screen even with adblock
19:50	Fixer	loads like it is hosted on mars
19:52	tenplus1	farming redo overrides default mod and uses it's own timers/abms...
19:53	benrob0329-phone	Pretty fast for a marsion server
19:53	Fixer	tenplus1: grass now grows on any soil iirc
19:54	Fixer	i will check it in default mtg
19:54	Fixer	tenplus1: for example grass will also spread to farmed land (as weed)
19:54	tenplus1	it spreads on top of any soil :) yeah, I do that in ethereal also
19:54	Fixer	tenplus1: but why it is corrupted by smth?
19:55	Megaf	https://www.flickr.com/photos/megaf/shares/SKgaL7
19:55	Megaf	tenplus1, ^
19:55	Fixer	tenplus1: i literally replanted it few hours ago and some stuff is missing again
19:55	Fixer	some crops
19:55	Fixer	it was growing
19:55	Fixer	now it is empty
19:55	Megaf	back when Arch Linux was something decent (2009)
19:55	tenplus1	lol, nice megaf
19:55	Megaf	That's running on my EeePC 701
19:56	tenplus1	what were the missing crops ?
19:56	tenplus1	which node
19:56	Fixer	tenplus1: empty spaces on that pic
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19:56	tenplus1	hi ben
19:57	tenplus1	yeah but what was in those empty spaces ???? seeds/crop???
19:58	Fixer	tenplus1: full grown crop
19:58	benrob0329	opens back into holo irc
19:59	Fixer	tenplus1: wheat
19:59	benrob0329	everything disconnected
19:59	tenplus1	there's no reason that they should disappear... farming redo overrides default farming and keeps the same nodes...
19:59	Fixer	tenplus1: i've replanted second time and it got emptied again in the process, i suspect nearby grass, pattern looks like grass sspread
19:59	tenplus1	checking
19:59	Fixer	tenplus1: check newest mtg, it had changes
20:01	tenplus1	k, placed a field full of wheat... quick grey it to full then swapped to farming redo... it's all there and ok
20:06	Fixer	tenplus1: you need to have some grass nearby and also wait before grass spreads
20:06	Fixer	but not too much grass
20:06	Fixer	clear all grass around the field and plant fresh grass that will spread
20:06	Fixer	near field
20:07	tenplus1	but wait, grass shoudl only spread when an empty node is available on soil ? no ?
20:08	Fixer	tenplus1: thats what we need to check :}
20:09	tenplus1	ethereal overrides grass spreading also... I never really use default tbh
20:09	tenplus1	always found my routine better
20:11	Megaf	[20:49:13] <Fixer> tidyman
20:11	Megaf	Did you say that to me? :)
20:11	Fixer	no
20:12	Megaf	oh
20:12	Megaf	=(
20:12	* Megaf	fails to get the context
20:12	* Megaf	will write in bold.
20:13	Megaf	Bold and red.
20:13	Megaf	Does Minetest has a default colour?
20:14	Shara	Well, I doubt it would be red :P
20:14	Megaf	O l d s c h o o l t e x t.
20:15	* Megaf	hides and gets quiet.
20:20	benrob0329	http://imgur.com/a/909KD
20:20	* benrob0329	goes back to badbsignal area
20:25	Shara	Hi Darcidride
20:27	Darcidride	Hi everyone
20:27	Darcidride	Thanks for the invitation to the channel
20:27	tenplus1	hi Darcidride
20:27	Shara	Would have voiced you sooner, but didn't know who you were :)
20:27	WhoAreYou	Hello Darcidride.
20:27	shivajiva	Hi Darcidride and welcome :)
20:27	WhoAreYou	:)
20:28	Darcidride	(yes sorry about that, my nickname is only MinetestForFun on inchranet :))
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20:29	tenplus1	wb ben
20:29	shivajiva	the logs are linked in the title if you want to catch up
20:29	Shara	No need for sorry - nice to have you with us.
20:30	Darcidride	Thank you Shara
20:30	Sokomine	shivajiva: quite tricky to catch up on the channel :-) there's a lot of talk
20:31	shivajiva	hehe I suddenly got used it recently xD
20:31	Shara	Yes, none of us know when to shut up around here :)
20:33	* benrob0329	readslogs
20:33	tenplus1	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhWx7WneKNA
20:33	benrob0329	tenplus1: https://youtu.be/TgWHcnzQeVs
20:35	shivajiva	that's a good thing Sokomine it shows people are comfortable imo :)
20:35	tenplus1	115 likes so far...
20:36	Shara	I just added #117
20:36	shivajiva	118
20:36	tenplus1	ehehe, might make 150 yet :D
20:36	tenplus1	thing is we got xanadu players thumbing his videos up and still never made it to 150... pah!!!
20:37	tenplus1	netted him 71 likes tho
20:37	Amaz	That would be 119 now :)
20:37	WhoAreYou	120
20:37	tenplus1	w00t!
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20:39	shivajiva	mine was for the veggie option being included xD
20:40	tenplus1	the shroom steak :D
20:40	tenplus1	sounds tasty
20:40	benrob0329-phone	XD
20:41	tenplus1	wednesday is my next day off Fixer, will look into grass spreading and farming issues then...
20:41	tenplus1	for now... nite all :)
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20:41	Fixer	gn
20:42	shivajiva	I've never managed to catch 11 on the way out, he's way too fast
20:43	shivajiva	lucky if you get 4 seconds lol
20:43	Shara	He is way too quick
20:44	nore	lol, that's why I always say good night 5 minutes before I actually turn off my computer :D
20:44	shivajiva	we need a script to spam him gn from all of us
20:45	Shara	I say good night, but then I guesss no one knows when I've actually left :D
20:45	shivajiva	lurker
20:45	Shara	So sometimes I sign in the next day to good nights.
20:45	nore	Shara: well, I never leave the channel as well
20:46	Shara	We shall both be lurkers then!
20:46	nore	but you never know, things might get interesting suddenly (for instance someone may have a question they forgot to ask you)
20:47	Shara	The problem when that happens, is I say good night but then might still be here two hours later
20:47	nore	though, it's getting quite hard to read all the backlog, even worse than in #-project
20:47	nore	ah yeah this happens to me too
20:47	Shara	we're not too far behind -project in numbers now either
20:47	nore	(and #-project I had already given up reading the whole backlog every day)
20:48	Shara	I skim usually, but depends how bad it is
20:48	Shara	And usually check for my name
20:48	nore	yeah, I do that as well
20:49	benrob0329-phone	I should have a bot that's always in the channel
20:49	benrob0329-phone	And just notifies my if my name has been called
20:49	Shara	skimming for me is just scrolling the length and picking up whatever I can in the speed it moves
20:49	Shara	which is usually enough to tell me what's going on
20:51	Shara	benrob0329-phone: bouncers are your friend.
20:51	benrob0329-phone	Probably
20:55	Jordach	Shara, well then
20:55	Jordach	>sees about offtopic remark
20:55	Jordach	i was having a cat nap
20:56	Shara	Jordach: That's because you are a meow.
20:57	Shara	Cat nap is only good nap of course.
21:00	WhoAreYou	Ok, bye guys. :)
21:00	benrob0329-phone	https://youtu.be/LQCeztRxwAo
21:00	benrob0329-phone	Interesting
21:01	benrob0329-phone	So the dalek mod travels through Minecraft history
21:01	benrob0329-phone	Not server history
21:01	TommyTreasure	can't help it, but when i see the words cat and course in the same sentence, all i can think about is a.l.f.
21:02	benrob0329-phone	Traveling across minetest history couldn't be too hard
21:02	nore	benrob0329-phone: I use weechat on a headless server to which I ssh, and I also have weechat-android in my phone which can connect to this instance
21:02	nore	it works quite well, and you have a persistent session across several devices :)
21:02	benrob0329-phone	id have to define a lot of extra nodes though
21:03	benrob0329-phone	Interesting
21:03	benrob0329-phone	I need to get a headless server myself
21:03	benrob0329-phone	Probably one of my rpis
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21:05	TommyTreasure	<< runs his game on headless server
21:05	Megaf	Good night everybody
21:06	TommyTreasure	g'nite Megaf
21:06	benrob0329-phone	Gnight
21:07	benrob0329-phone	Are there any early dev videos of minetest?
21:13	Shara	Study more, or poke secret MT project?
21:13	Shara	Someone help me decide?
21:13	benrob0329-phone	https://youtu.be/nqttAvwnwBc
21:13	benrob0329-phone	7 fps!
21:13	nore	Shara: secret MT project? :)
21:13	benrob0329-phone	Also, we're still using that same stone texture..
21:13	* nore	would like to learn more about it
21:14	Shara	Hehe.
21:14	Shara	It's partly your fault, actually.
21:14	Shara	Just to make it more mysterious :)
21:14	benrob0329-phone	https://youtu.be/R7VE9akctEo
21:14	nore	haha, I might have an idea what it is about
21:15	benrob0329-phone	0.1.14!
21:18	RobbieF	FYI - we hit 120 likes - so BaldNerd is going to Xanadu! Help us promote them by giving a thumbs up on the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhWx7WneKNA
21:18	sofar	mesecons will be moving to minetest-mods!!!
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21:19	sofar	now I just have to convince the technic folks :)
21:19	sofar	gna
21:20	kaeza	convince of what? :P
21:20	* kaeza	read logs
21:21	sofar	to move git repos to minetest-mods
21:21	kaeza	ah
21:21	benrob0329-phone	sofar: yes!!
21:21	sofar	kaeza: jeija is moving mesecons to minetest-mods
21:21	benrob0329-phone	Yay! Faster mesecons development!
21:21	benrob0329-phone	Maybe
21:21	sofar	not necessarily
21:22	sofar	but, at least there will be an incentive for people to help
21:22	sofar	since I work hard to keep minetest-mods PRs merging quickly
21:22	benrob0329-phone	Single node pistons?
21:22	sofar	I think I spend about an hour a week making sure PRs are not lingering in minetest-mods
21:23	sofar	single node pistons? not sure that is a good thing
21:23	benrob0329-phone	it'd preven glitched pistons like we have now
21:23	benrob0329-phone	*prevent
21:23	kaeza	sofar, that is great. I don't have objections to moving technic to mt-mods, but will let more active contributors decide
21:24	kaeza	(that is great, re: mesecons)
21:24	benrob0329-phone	Right now a piston can have its exdended bit pushed out of the way
21:24	benrob0329-phone	Which is a problem
21:24	benrob0329-phone	As they can't be mined
21:26	sofar	I wonder if they can be attached somehow
21:26	RobbieF	Night all. Hope you enjoy!
21:26	benrob0329-phone	Gnight
21:27	benrob0329-phone	I'm hoping to have the redstone single tick behavior in sticky pistons
21:27	benrob0329-phone	(I did take a look at the piston code, it was...scary)
21:27	nore	sofar: \o/
21:28	nore	and about moving technic: I'm for that as well, I don't know what's ShadowNinja's view on it though
21:29	sofar	afk
21:29	kaeza	SN ins't here? O.o
21:29	kaeza	n>>1
21:29	Shara	If people are missing, please send them invites.
21:30	benrob0329-phone	Quick, spam SN with PMs!
21:31	kaeza	Shara, sent a PM. can you +V ?
21:31	Shara	Sure
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21:31	Shara	Done
21:33	kaeza	calculon and epoch probably need +V too; they are regulars on other channels
21:35	kaeza	sofar, we also have #minetest-technic if you are interested
21:35	red-001	I wonder what I should work on next for csm
21:35	benrob0329-phone	Player objects
21:36	benrob0329-phone	(Please)
21:36	red-001	somone is trying to get thier pr for that merged, so it would be rude of me
21:36	rubenwardy	here is a list of people in #-project and not in #-hub: https://gist.github.com/rubenwardy/4fccee27e57f21376aebbe00c93bda5d
21:36	benrob0329-phone	Potional audio?
21:36	rubenwardy	atm
21:37	red-001	maybe
21:37	red-001	if I can add it without the local player object
21:38	benrob0329-phone	If multiple nodes all play the same audio, is the audio in sync?
21:39	red-001	rubenwardy, btw I made a new pr that should address the code duplication in the node metadata referance in the previous pr
21:39	red-001	benrob0329-phone, not sure
21:45	nerzhul	red-001, nice, it's not simple to prevent code dup, sometimes no choice
21:46	nerzhul	for the localplayer PR it seems it's polishing
21:50	Shara	kaeza: regulars of other channels doesn't mean they are contributors.
21:51	kaeza	Shara, fair enough
21:55	Shara	They can just give one of us a poke if they do want voice
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22:29	benrob0329	Dang ssl errors
22:29	benrob0329	(Offtopic) https://youtu.be/ZSLnkyPSlEM
22:58	red-001	https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc8140
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23:11	rubenwardy	red-001, lol
23:13	rubenwardy	!tell nerzhul https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/.travis.yml#L16-L18
23:30	rubenwardy	paramat: sorting PRs by oldest gives a lot of old ones that could use bumping. Although probably shouldn't close them if they're useful for future implementations
23:32	paramat	yes i do that sometimes, i just closed #2712 btw
23:32	rubenwardy	would be nice to get below 140

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