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12:42 loggingbot_ joined #minetest-hub
12:42 celeron55 currently this is open to anyone
12:43 celeron55 not sure if it's necessary; if you think it is, i'm fine with that
12:44 celeron55 i suppose let's start that way; there's quite some moderation overhead in that though
12:44 Shara Moderation is sort of a default requirement of a channel with this goal, I think.
12:47 sfan5 joined #minetest-hub
12:47 celeron55 sfan5: can you talk now without +v?
12:48 sfan5 .
12:49 sfan5 .
12:49 celeron55 should this be +s?
12:49 celeron55 #-project isn't; i guess we're going with that then
12:50 Shara I'd say same set up as project, unless there's a big reason otherwise
12:51 Shara Away for half hour or so.
15:38 Topic for #minetest-hub is now http://hub.minetest.net/info
17:08 Topic for #minetest-hub is now http://hub.minetest.net/info http://hub.minetest.net/regulars
17:08 Topic for #minetest-hub is now http://hub.minetest.net/info | http://hub.minetest.net/regulars
17:13 Topic for #minetest-hub is now http://hub.minetest.net/info
17:35 Topic for #minetest-hub is now http://hub.minetest.net/info | http://hub.minetest.net/regulars
17:36 celeron55 i think i prefer it this way... lol
17:43 tenplus1 joined #minetest-hub
17:44 nerzhul joined #minetest-hub
17:44 shivajiva joined #minetest-hub
17:45 tenplus1 thankies, hi folks
17:45 Shara Hello
17:45 nerzhul hi, nice job celeron this was a necessity :)
17:45 tenplus1 hi Shara :P
17:45 nerzhul and hi shara
17:45 tenplus1 so wait, you guys not using -project anymore ?
17:46 celeron55 you can use it, or this, whatever you feel like
17:47 Topic for #minetest-hub is now http://hub.minetest.net/info | http://hub.minetest.net/regulars | http://irc.minetest.net/minetest-hub/
17:47 tenplus1 if this is where devs will be I'm gonna be here bugging you guys for new things :PPPPPPPP
17:48 Shara I'm hoping this is where they'll be. this was only set up today.
17:48 nerzhul nice :)
17:49 Shara Please check the info page. celeron55 will add those who stick around to the regulars list.
17:49 * tenplus1 *boops* everyone with a choccy donut
17:49 Shara :D
17:50 Shara I'm going to spend the rest of the night craving doughtnuts now
17:51 tenplus1 muhahahaha... my work here is done
17:53 shivajiva I just had a pink iced one with sprinkles xD
17:53 tenplus1 *want*
17:54 tenplus1 any chance of getting baked coloured clay into mtg ?
17:55 Shara tenplus1: I tried asking why it wasn't a few times and never really got an answer from anyone.
17:55 tenplus1 players enjoy pixelart :) this we know... and wool provides bright colours for use where baked coloured clay could have the mid-stone colours
17:55 celeron55 don't ask yet, is there even one mtg developer here yet, lol?
17:56 Shara I don't know. I can never remember which devs are also on MTG.
17:56 tenplus1 that and moreores for sprucing up caves :P  (I typed cakes twice there)
17:57 Shara The dev division always seemed odd to me, since MTG is the only official game.
17:59 shivajiva never considered it coming from a place where data and engine were separated for legal reasons
17:59 shivajiva it seemed normal
17:59 sofar joined #minetest-hub
18:00 Shara More like... the distribution of people, rather than the actual division.
18:00 Shara Hi sofar
18:00 shivajiva Hi sofar
18:03 nerzhul hi sofar
18:03 sofar invite nore
18:03 nerzhul and maybe Krock
18:04 tenplus1 how about notch ?
18:04 sofar dinnerbone
18:04 tenplus1 ehehe
18:04 * tenplus1 flips upside down
18:04 sofar wuzzy
18:04 sofar but he's not on irc
18:04 tenplus1 yeah, I invited him before and he didnt want the hassle
18:04 Shara I thought he was against hese kinds of channels
18:05 Shara these*
18:05 sofar ShadowNinja, zeno (if he hasn't ran away screaming yet), sfan5 etc etc
18:06 Shara Just finding out who had invites yet.
18:08 Shara sofar or nerzhul, feel free to send channel name to any of the devs.
18:10 sofar I can't /invite, that would help
18:10 sofar is voiceb required in this channel?
18:11 Shara voice is needed to speak, but people can join.
18:11 * tenplus1 has voice + soprano
18:12 celeron55 it's your doughnut, don't eat it
18:12 tenplus1 nooooooo
18:12 tenplus1 ooh, is fine pointed being added to stairs ?
18:13 tenplus1 the new changes look really good btw
18:13 VanessaE joined #minetest-hub
18:14 Shara Hi VanessaE
18:14 VanessaE hi
18:17 tenplus1 +1 for #5490 weirdmesh depending on pitch
18:18 VanessaE +1  but I would suggest the effect be much stronger
18:21 shivajiva when I look at the contributors for game and core I see the same people
18:22 tenplus1 that's good :P so long as they contribute
18:26 RobbieF joined #minetest-hub
18:26 tenplus1 hi RobbieF
18:26 Shara I thought game had far fewer contributors over all
18:26 Shara Hi RobbieF
18:26 RobbieF Ye gads, I have a lot of IRC channels dedicated to Minetest now.
18:26 VanessaE 5 here, plus two reprap-related, two c64-related, and one misc. :)
18:26 RobbieF Minetest-hub? More like, Minetest-HUG! What a warm welcome  :D
18:27 RobbieF because that wasn't misc. enough for you?  :D
18:27 tenplus1 ehehe
18:27 Shara :D
18:27 VanessaE the one misc is a channel I have almost no interest in, as far as its actual purpose is concerned, but I have a couple friends in there :)
18:28 Shara I'll probably start leaving some of the other MT channels I'm in, if this one works out.
18:29 VanessaE so, regarding CSM..  how far along does it have to get before Unified Inventory can be ported over? :)
18:29 * RobbieF checks to see if VanessaE is lurking in any of his channels. Nope, great! Still a chance she'd be interested.
18:29 * RobbieF changes #ThePixelShadow to #minetest-tps - just for shits and giggles.
18:29 celeron55 #minetest-minetest
18:29 tenplus1 #mintestception
18:30 VanessaE heh
18:33 * tenplus1 looks for karaoke songs
18:34 Topic for #minetest-hub is now http://hub.minetest.net/info | http://hub.minetest.net/regulars | Logs: http://irc.minetest.net/minetest-hub/
18:36 VanessaE celeron55: no description for yourself on the "regulars" page? :)
18:37 * tenplus1 hides the laxatives
18:37 celeron55 "celeron55 - celeron55"
18:37 sofar VanessaE: you'd have to check that player inventory manipulations are allowed in CSM
18:38 sofar VanessaE: I'm not sure they are
18:38 sofar plus, without the server sending CSM code, it wouldn't be that good for players yet
18:38 celeron55 VanessaE: i'm the one who is allowed to now have a description!
18:38 celeron55 not have*
18:38 Shara "celeron55 - the only one on the list who's name doesn't start with S yet"
18:39 celeron55 lol how is that even possible
18:39 VanessaE sofar: well, considering I found a different opinion of CSM, maybe UI could be something a user installs on their own, like cheapie's chat6 mod.
18:39 Shara I once had my server channel with 10+ people who had names starting with S
18:39 VanessaE heh
18:39 sofar VanessaE: IC, interesting thought
18:39 Shara No other letter at all.. lasted for abotu a week
18:39 Shara about*
18:40 Shara Everyone okay with my inviting TommyTreasure? He runs a server and is looking to make youtube videos for MT.
18:40 tenplus1 ok here :P
18:41 VanessaE invited Sokomine.
18:41 Shara Yes, she's good to get here :)
18:41 Sokomine joined #minetest-hub
18:41 VanessaE speak of the devil :)
18:41 tenplus1 lol
18:41 Sokomine hey. i was invited :-)
18:42 VanessaE invited Fixer, too
18:42 Shara Hi Sokomine
18:43 celeron55 the regulars list is currently in the order of addition, so if someone wants to get on top, PM me with something in the format of that list
18:43 Krock joined #minetest-hub
18:43 celeron55 (no promises it won't be alphabetically sorted some day)
18:43 tenplus1 hi Krock
18:43 Krock hello
18:44 Shara Hi Krock
18:44 celeron55 the purpose of that list is to make it easier to see what people are involved with
18:44 Krock \o/ 50% higher chance to hit the correct tab to greet tenplus1 on init
18:45 Shara Haha
18:45 VanessaE heh
18:45 tenplus1 eheh
18:45 shivajiva Hi Krock :)
18:45 Krock oh, you're here aswell. Nice to see you shivajiva
18:46 tenplus1 wow, channel filling up quick :D
18:47 nore joined #minetest-hub
18:47 TommyTreasure joined #minetest-hub
18:47 nore hi all :)
18:47 tenplus1 hi nore
18:47 tenplus1 hi tommr
18:47 Shara Hi nore and welcome
18:47 Shara Hi TommyTreasure
18:47 nerzhul i will invite a new contributor working on CSM for player object
18:47 TommyTreasure g'morning
18:47 Amaz joined #minetest-hub
18:48 Shara nerzhul: Sure, anyone who is a contributor and meets what the info page says can be part of this. :)
18:48 shivajiva Hi TommyTreasure
18:48 TommyTreasure hello
18:48 nerzhul okay, we should invite red-001, can you ? and may i become an operator ?
18:48 shivajiva Hi nore
18:48 nerzhul ty :)
18:48 Amaz Thanks Shara :)
18:48 * TommyTreasure promises to be nice here
18:49 shivajiva Hi Amaz
18:49 Amaz Hello shiva :)
18:49 Shara Who actually ends up keeping  op will be decided with celeron55, but we need to make sure people can get voice easy until it's all sorted out
18:49 Shara Idea is a split between devs and the other contributors
18:50 Shara Though it also depends who has the time and wants it :P
18:50 Shara nerzhul: red is definitely welcome from what I've seen him doing
18:50 nore yeah, I think both devs & contributors having op is good
18:50 TommyTreasure all i know is that i had thoroughly confused myself over the whole deal over the past few weeks
18:51 Shara TommyTreasure: Were you able to test your server works okay after we spoke?
18:51 Sokomine Shara: good idea. it's always good to keep in touch
18:51 Fixer joined #minetest-hub
18:51 nore hey Fixer
18:51 shivajiva welcome Fixer :)
18:51 Fixer hi
18:51 Shara Hi Fixer
18:51 TommyTreasure yes, updated to latest m/d -dev, and had to update technic and unified dyes, and runs like a charm
18:51 Amaz Hello Fixer :D
18:51 Fixer long time no see
18:52 TommyTreasure j/d - m/t
18:52 Shara TommyTreasure: Great to hear. :)
18:52 TommyTreasure no connection probs, all mods run
18:52 Shara We're all silly for not solving that one sooner
18:52 Shara Just happy it worked :)
18:52 Thomas-S joined #minetest-hub
18:52 TommyTreasure i was silly for not sticking with a trusted source for good and solid information
18:53 Shara Hi Thomas-S
18:53 Thomas-S Hello!
18:54 TommyTreasure let it be known here that i am not a coder, just a server owner/admin/player
18:54 nerzhul nice Shara thanks
18:54 Shara TommyTreasure: And one seriously good moderator when it comes to handling the annoying kiddies as well ;)
18:55 * TommyTreasure hates kids!  <only kidding>
18:56 Krock let it known here that i am not a owner/admin/player, just a coder ;)
18:56 TommyTreasure ty Shara
18:56 Sokomine server owners/admins are also needed. apart from the obvious (=running the game for others to enjoy), they also get in contact with a lot of other players and are better aware of which problems occour "in the wild"
18:57 shivajiva there is a massive amount of knowledge represented here between the people so it's a good place to feedback
18:57 Sokomine hm, krock, you used to have a server, so that might not count :-)
18:57 Shara Sokomine: Yes, we're hoping both the server owners (and the modders and so on) AND the devs, will be able to feel comfortable enough to discuss things here.
18:57 TommyTreasure and i also play on a few other servers, so i do know what my personal preferences are
18:57 Krock Sokomine, well yeah. Long time gone and Minetest has changes in some parts since then
18:59 TommyTreasure i'd just like to find out why my isp seems to be getting blocked the routing to some eu servers.
18:59 TommyTreasure the routing - in routing
19:01 tenplus1 nite all :P
19:01 tenplus1 left #minetest-hub
19:01 TommyTreasure g'nite
19:01 Shara He's too quick to say good night too
19:01 Shara to*
19:02 Shara Who is happy to have op for the time being to voice people?
19:03 TommyTreasure < not watching screen enough to be responsible enough for the duty
19:03 TommyTreasure i'm still preparing the server box remotely, for tomorrow's os upgrade
19:04 Krock well, PM'ing someone usually speeds up the +v process :3
19:04 Shara Can just start auto-voicing people at least, but there's probably going to be new people showing up when c55 and I aren't about :P
19:05 Krock that's not what voice is supposed to be.. yeah
19:05 VanessaE I'd be happier with it not requiring +v here.
19:06 VanessaE better to mute or kick a disruptive user than require all the legit ones to have +v
19:07 Shara I both agree and don't at the same time. Which probably doesn't make sense, I know :P
19:07 Sokomine Shara: guess it's just the hope that there will be more people that behave than there will be trolls. i feel similar if it helps any
19:08 Shara Well, it's also that this channel is meant to be for people who have contributed, so there's the worry that it could end up not holding to that
19:08 Shara I suppose it might change depending on how it works out.
19:09 VanessaE btw, where is the existence of #-project advertised?
19:10 Shara I'm not sure if it ever was
19:10 VanessaE ok.
19:10 red-001 joined #minetest-hub
19:10 Shara It wasn't even logged with the others until a few days back
19:11 red-001 lol we got yet anther channel
19:11 red-001 another*
19:11 Shara Yup, wecome.
19:11 Shara welcome*
19:11 Krock celeron55, found two trivial hub.minetest.net improvements: 1) close the link tag in the header 2) page '/regulars', class "main_footer" should be outside main_text to correct the style
19:11 VanessaE "#-project is deprecated"  :)
19:12 sfan5 oh god did github change the font
19:12 VanessaE yep, they did.
19:12 red-001 Just ignore those deprecation warnings
19:12 VanessaE not sure if I like it
19:12 Krock oh? did they?
19:12 red-001 I'm sure there is no reason for them
19:12 VanessaE yeah, it's wider now
19:12 Shara Now I'm scared to look
19:12 sfan5 seems unintentional though
19:13 sfan5 they have "system-ui" in their css which matches to...
19:13 sfan5 % fc-match 'system-ui'
19:13 sfan5 DejaVuSans.ttf: "DejaVu Sans" "Book"
19:14 VanessaE probably just a brain-o
19:14 VanessaE but then again, they've changed the font half a dozen times in the past year
19:14 red-001 -ChanServ- Registered : Mar 31 12:24:19 2017 (6h 49m 44s ago)
19:14 red-001 so I guess this is a new channel?
19:14 Shara Yes.
19:14 VanessaE yes.
19:14 sfan5 this is especially ugly though
19:14 sfan5 looks like Arial Black
19:14 VanessaE this seeks to replace #-project, with a more relaxed atmosphere
19:14 Krock Why won't they finally use Comic Sans MS?  /s
19:14 VanessaE heh
19:14 Shara :D
19:15 VanessaE poor, misunderstood COmic Sans
19:15 VanessaE so maligned
19:15 Krock yeah, it's such a great font. Used on birthday cards all the time
19:16 VanessaE Krock: in fact, I use it for my window titlebar font, and the playlist font in Audacious.
19:16 Krock hehe :)
19:16 sfan5 ಠ_ಠ
19:16 VanessaE [0CA0]_[0CA0]
19:16 VanessaE :P
19:17 red-001 ^
19:17 Krock []_[]  here
19:17 red-001 looks like hexhchat has bad unicode support
19:18 sfan5 no that is your fonts fault
19:18 Krock depends on the font and fallback functionality
19:18 VanessaE nah, I probably just lack a font that supplies those symbols.
19:19 Sokomine oh? didn't vanessa just say [ 0 C A 0 ] _ [ 0 C A 0 ] ? (without the blanks)
19:19 Krock inb4 this week a bunch of new unicode emojis were announced
19:20 Krock Sokomine, yes she did
19:20 VanessaE I did.  on my screen, unknown unicode renders as a small box with the hex value in it.
19:20 Sokomine ah, ok. this is a text console client
19:21 * Sokomine puts some äöüß on the channel in case anyone has need for them
19:21 sfan5 ಠ_ಠ  even works in my terminal
19:21 VanessaE Sokomine: your umlauts are showing
19:22 Krock here some forced spaces:
19:24 TommyTreasure love 'high desert' living!  2 days ago, t-shirt and shorts weather, yesterday snow, today back to t-shirt and shorts
19:24 Sokomine ah, fine :-)
19:25 TommyTreasure only bad thing is that nobody in the world wants to see me in shorts.  lol
19:25 Krock almost like a rollercoaster
19:26 Krock TommyTreasure, no, you're not fat. now take your two couches and sit to us
19:26 Krock ;)
19:26 Sokomine snow? oh. we got t-shirt weather today. still cold at night but no snow. temperate climate/zone here
19:26 kilbith joined #minetest-hub
19:26 VanessaE heh
19:26 TommyTreasure actually, i've lost 80 pounds in the past few years.  more specifically, been holding at 150 pounds for 4 yers
19:26 benrob0329 joined #minetest-hub
19:27 VanessaE here's it's moved from coat-and-gloves, to shorts, to umbrella-and-galoshes  in the span of just a couple weekjs.
19:27 VanessaE -j
19:27 TommyTreasure this past winter has been the wettest one here in over a decade.  no water shortage this year
19:27 VanessaE ninja'd.
19:27 * Shara won
19:27 Shara Hi benrob0329, hi kilbith
19:27 Krock lol +vv
19:27 Krock Shara won on my client's log
19:27 benrob0329 Hi Shara
19:28 kilbith just here because Vanessa wanted
19:28 kilbith but hi
19:28 Krock hello
19:28 Thomas-S Hello, kilbith!
19:28 benrob0329 so what's the advatage of this over -project?
19:29 Krock it's even more free
19:29 VanessaE benrob0329: more relaxed than -project, no overzealous control
19:30 celeron55 Krock: i fixed the page a bit; it's fine enough now
19:30 kilbith not more relaxed since I'm here now
19:30 Krock lovely :)
19:30 TommyTreasure only a suggestion, but maybe a few more 'serious minded game owners' should be on the invite list?
19:30 Shara TommyTreasure: Feel free to suggest names
19:31 kilbith where is Zeno
19:31 TommyTreasure i wish i knew some.  ducake might be one.  don't know him, only through NathanS's videos
19:31 Fixer steel shovel - 271 sand, bronze - 361 sand (1.33x more durability)
19:31 VanessaE well, this is a place for contributors, and as I said to Shara, to me, a "contributor" would be engine devs, game devs, anyone who has made pull requests against them, any prominent modder or subgame developer, and server operators.
19:31 VanessaE zeno is probably asleep right now
19:32 TommyTreasure that's why i prefaced my suggestion with 'serious minded'
19:32 Shara c55 already invited him, I think.
19:32 celeron55 Krock: wait, fixed a bit still; now it 100% passes w3.org checks
19:32 celeron55 i invited zeno, yes
19:32 celeron55 it's somewhere in my 40 irssi windows
19:33 benrob0329 thts odd
19:33 benrob0329 my laptop doesnt disconnect from irc when i put it to sleep
19:33 benrob0329 left #minetest-hub
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19:33 Dumbeldor joined #minetest-hub
19:34 TommyTreasure is there a way to have 'profiler save' run at specific intervals?
19:36 shivajiva VanessaE: +1
19:36 celeron55 wait who is Dumbeldor?
19:36 VanessaE idk
19:36 kilbith the padawan of nerzhul afaik
19:36 VanessaE heh
19:37 celeron55 oh that one, ok
19:37 celeron55 hello 8)
19:37 Shara Hi Dumbeldor
19:37 benrob0329 thnkas
19:37 VanessaE Shara: Chanserv is needed..
19:37 benrob0329 i always forget to put a space in front of a / at the beginning of a message >.<
19:38 TommyTreasure irc clients should recognize that and put it in for you!  lol
19:38 nerzhul yeah i work with him on some parts and he push PR when an interesting MT feature is almost finished, atm Dumbeldor works on localplayer exposure in CSM
19:39 red-001 talking about csm I'm starting work on local particles
19:40 nerzhul nice, red-001 we need reviewers more than me permitting to merge finished features, sofar sfan5 Krock help we have many pr to finish/merge :)
19:40 nerzhul nore, too
19:40 red-001 the main issue is finding a way to get an id for particle spawners
19:41 nerzhul red-001, the main problem is particles are sent by servers with server ids no ?
19:41 red-001 not particles, only particlespawners
19:41 nerzhul oh
19:42 red-001 so whats the general rule for inviting people here?
19:43 shivajiva ask celeron or Shara seems appropriate
19:43 Krock 1) they must believe that #-hub is better than #-project
19:43 Shara red-001: did you check http://hub.minetest.net/info?
19:44 Krock 2) Bring sheep for c55 to sacrifice
19:44 * Shara pokes Krock
19:44 shivajiva lmao
19:44 Krock because.. reasons)
19:44 VanessaE heh
19:44 TommyTreasure <totally inappropriate> those bringing hot pizza an cold beer should be given invites </totally inappropriate>
19:45 kilbith so the viril clashes are allowed here or not
19:45 celeron55 lol, ChanServ wars
19:45 red-001 huh would a goat be ok or does it have to be a sheep?
19:45 * nerzhul spits on ChanServ
19:46 Krock red-001, no idea. I guess both will do its purpose (which is none)
19:46 shivajiva who me? :P
19:46 Dumbeldor Hi celeron55
19:46 VanessaE red-001: has to be a sheep
19:46 Shara If chanserv were my server channel bot, it would now spit back :)
19:46 VanessaE after all, according to the song, sheep go to heaven, but goats go to hell. :)
19:47 shivajiva what songs?
19:47 benrob0329 my neighbor has sheep...
19:47 shivajiva hahahahaha
19:47 VanessaE oh I dunno, some alt-rock thing from the late 90's I think
19:47 * benrob0329 lives in the country
19:47 VanessaE heard it once at cousin's
19:47 shivajiva xD
19:47 nerzhul http://hub.minetest.net/regulars => celeron55, just celeron55, what else, nespresso
19:48 VanessaE celeron55: if appropriate, you might want to consider adding what I said is my idea of "contributors" to the info page.
19:50 celeron55 i think i'll leave it as-is for now
19:51 celeron55 it's a bit of a new take in defining things
19:51 VanessaE ok.
19:51 nerzhul VanessaE, contributors page maintenance could be huge, it's not as simple
19:52 VanessaE no worries.
19:52 nerzhul celeron55 no https with acme-client ? :D
19:53 celeron55 i wish i could be bothered to set that up, but no, not this time either
19:54 celeron55 it seems like the most unexciting ever, and just as prone to breaking as any service
19:55 celeron55 like the most unexciting thing ever*
20:07 nerzhul just a question to all, as it seems it's a good channel for this, i have #5475 around, it's a huge change for minetest players, how can we plan this, i know somes are using master for their servers
20:08 VanessaE hm, need shadowbot in here too
20:09 VanessaE oh that. :)
20:09 Shara Yes, bot needed
20:10 nerzhul if SN is not around i will add my bot :)
20:10 VanessaE damn, I host it and yet, I lack the necessary priv to bring it over.
20:10 Shara nerzhul: player data really needs to be in a db, but haven't been following the PR to comment much
20:11 nerzhul Shara, this is just working, and should not cause problems to server owners, but some may want to use postgresql, and if you want to migrate to pg directly you need some config. Is there any place for world.mt documentation ? i added two fields but didn't found it
20:13 red-002 the code style checker doesn't seem to be very useful
20:14 nerzhul red-002, it's in lazy mode, i need to take some time to look at opened PR and see which files can be passed to clang-format directly
20:14 nerzhul atm it is only in blocking mode for 4 files
20:14 nerzhul because clang-format check a whole file only, then ...
20:14 nerzhul we only have 4 files which are properly code styled :p
20:14 red-002 is there a way to make it print out what the issue with the file is?
20:14 red-002 not just that there is one
20:15 nerzhul it shows a diff of your files after clang-format
20:17 nerzhul in a PR clang-format shows errors on all modified files: https://travis-ci.org/minet​est/minetest/jobs/217068742
20:19 nerzhul red-002, can you for #5487 fix src/script/lua_api/l_client.h as the diff is tiny and remove it from util/travis/clang-format-whilelist ?
20:19 nerzhul after merging this will make it strongly checked :)
20:19 Fixer tooo much channels
20:21 nerzhul Fixer, just remove -project :)
20:21 VanessaE yeah, -project is deprecated :)
20:23 RobbieF Fixer if you think this is too many channels just start one called #Minetest-Fixer and set out to fix it?
20:23 RobbieF Seems that's what everyone else is doing  :p
20:23 VanessaE https://xkcd.com/927/
20:23 RobbieF hahaa, great one VanessaE, and oh so true
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20:34 Sokomine VanessaE: oh yes. but 15 is perhaps too few. we can certainly create more :)
20:34 Sokomine (or, rather :/)
20:34 kilbith hey Sokomine, long time no see
20:35 Sokomine ah :-) nice to see you kilbith :-)
20:36 kilbith I dropped some PMs to you, got no success
20:37 Sokomine oh? where did you drop them?
20:37 kilbith long time ago
20:37 kilbith not important now ;)
20:51 TommyTreasure << loves fortune - The first rule of intelligent tinkering is to save all the parts. -- Paul Erlich
20:51 Sokomine btw, i think adventuretest ought to get more regard. it's a very nice game for those wishing to play a more survival-orientated game with some story elements. it'd be great for singleplayer
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21:04 rubenwardy Hi all o/
21:05 Shara Hi rubenwardy
21:05 shivajiva Hi rubenwardy
21:07 Amaz Hello rubenwardy :)
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21:45 TommyTreasure bbiab, have to restart w/wan service.  d/l speeds at 1.47 Mbps.  oh, i just love my isp!
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21:58 Shara welcome back TommyTreasure
21:59 TommyTreasure ty, d/l speed back to 6mbps
22:00 TommyTreasure and on totally different network.  can't figure these guys out
22:01 TommyTreasure except their service goes up and down more often than the toilet seat in a co-ed dorm
22:02 Shara Are you still switching sometime?
22:02 shivajiva sounds a bit like the bandwidth throttling BT used to do in the UK
22:03 Shara I'm biased. I just want Tommy back on DL keeping the kiddies in check for me again :P
22:03 TommyTreasure landlord is out of state until the middle of next month.  since he's a contractor, and wants to be here for the underground wiring, looks like the end of the month.  but, should be 100mbps service by then
22:04 TommyTreasure i'm wondering if espteam may have the network blocked for some reason
22:06 TommyTreasure although, i've had similar issues getting to xanadu also
22:07 Shara And you couldn't join RC I think?
22:07 TommyTreasure correct
22:07 Shara So three seperate servers at least
22:08 TommyTreasure are dl and rc on different networks?
22:08 Shara Yes
22:08 Shara Unless I totally lost track of the moves
22:08 Shara I leave where DL is hosted down to sniper
22:09 TommyTreasure hmmm, i've checked all the blacklists, and it seems as if my isp has at least done his part.  no longer listed
22:09 Shara I wish I had any ideas
22:09 Shara When did you last try RC?
22:10 TommyTreasure just now.  same issue
22:10 TommyTreasure let me run a ping and traceroute
22:11 TommyTreasure ping dies on both
22:14 TommyTreasure tracepath gets 'no reply' after 'smartsender.com' for dl
22:14 TommyTreasure stops and what looks like being bounced at 51.0.10.5 for rc
22:16 TommyTreasure according to senderbase.com, 51.0.10.5 is owned by 'Department for Work and Pensions' in London
22:24 TommyTreasure and...
22:25 TommyTreasure according to whatismyipaddress.com, my current ip is blocked by b.barracudacentral.org and spam.dnsbl.sorbs.net
22:27 Shara Weird
22:27 Shara I wish I had answers for you TommyTreasure
22:29 TommyTreasure shara, could you ping my addy from your vps shell?
22:29 Shara Sure, but PM me please
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22:52 shivajiva Hi Calinou o/
22:52 Calinou hi
22:53 Calinou https://lut.im/9yhEjWaUzB/rZEkRzM1ZUP5SYE6.png
22:53 Calinou how to choose your open source license :P
22:53 Shara :D
22:54 shivajiva perfect xD
23:06 Calinou oh, happy April Fools day btw
23:07 Shara We did joke about waiting until today to open this channel :)
23:08 Calinou we'll surely have Half-Life 3 today
23:09 Shara Obviously.
23:10 Shara Probably Portal 3 as well while we're at it
23:12 Calinou and Minecraft 2
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