Time Nick Message 03:04 MTDiscord Sorry to interrupt but as a parent, I got very concerned about the recently discovered 18+ server on the server list... I'm not sure if the largest target audience for Minetest is adults, but having that server listed by default in the server list immediately makes the whole MT ecosystem not safe for my kids to play. Just wanted to add two cents since here since the shared issue is closed as not planned. 03:36 MTDiscord That specific fix to the problem is closed as not planned, other fixes have been proposed and I think it has been decided to add an 18+ tag that server can declare, which can then be hidden in the serverlist 03:39 MTDiscord Apparently the server owner has expressed willingness to abide by such a system 03:41 MTDiscord I understand. The software is not the issue. The way it was handled. If I was hosting the server list, that server was not going to be there anymore: it is explicitly inviting for player to have sexual roleplay. I really appreciate the whole team effort but unless I'm missing something, the fact a server explicitly inviting for virtual intercourse is still up is what concerns me. 03:42 MTDiscord Yeah 03:42 MTDiscord I don't know who the server owner is but also feels not very responsible either, advertising that server in the first place 😦 03:44 MTDiscord nimbyism at its finest 03:44 MTDiscord I will probably need to revert a recommendation I made for a school about using MT on a project, or at least warn teachers about it. 03:44 MTDiscord Heh, it sounds pretty distasteful to me, but I'm more uncomfortable with the idea of banning them from a server list when there's currently only one central very dominant one, and not a ton of choice or flexibility for players or servers. 03:44 MTDiscord Nimbyism is warranted 03:45 MTDiscord A tagging system will help give people flexibility without forcing us to heavily decentralize, at least. 03:45 MTDiscord I'm sorry, I failed to understand that... 03:46 MTDiscord If you want a solution in the meantime, you can change the URL for the server list in settings, as long as you don't think your kids will bypass that. You can point it at a black hole and just use only remembered favorites, even, or if you're ambitious, set up your own filtering proxy. 03:46 MTDiscord That is helpful, I'll add that to their machines. 03:48 MTDiscord For a mid level solution, if hosting a filtering proxy in realtime is too complex but you don't want to lose the entire rest of the server list, you could try pointing it at a static file snapshot of the list. Most of the major servers don't change their vital stats that often, and you just lose access to availability and player count kinds of data doing it that way. 03:48 MTDiscord There aren't currentlygood solutions for the immediate need, but there's quite a pick of meh-to-not-so-great ones at least 😄 03:50 MTDiscord Thank you. As a parent of three, I an genuinely concerned, that is why I opted to voice my concern here. 03:54 MTDiscord I'd love to see a warning flags system a lot like what contentdb does. Actually, the server list may be about as much of a risk as CDB packages in terms of the Play Store content policy already, so there are a number of reasons to get some traction on this soon... 04:26 MTDiscord Yeah, its worth reiterating that as long as that server is on the list, its not appropriate to recommend minetest to schools or really even children in general 04:58 MTDiscord I suspect allowing access by default to certain content, unintentional or not, third-party or not, violates some Google Play clauses or at least hikes the PEGI rating 04:59 MTDiscord er, looks like PEGI was already mentioned, so I guess that one is moot 05:00 MTDiscord this also isnt the first 18+ server, pretty sure gundul's jungle server was also 18+ (not for any actual adult content or anything, I believe it was simply to cultivate a more mature environment) 05:07 MTDiscord ... which was also briefly discussed earlier 05:07 MTDiscord thats what I get for skimming backlog too fast 08:26 nrz it's interesting, but too low level for us 12:18 sfan5 ~tell Desour would you like to be named in credits with your mail address? 12:18 ShadowBot sfan5: OK. 13:48 sfan5 merging #13299, #13323, #13319 soon 13:48 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/13299 -- Fix occasional black screen on startup by x2048 13:48 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/13323 -- Fix empty port assertion error in 'Join Game' menu. by GoodClover 13:48 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/13319 -- Remove default keybind for pitchmove by grorp 15:01 Desour ~tell sfan5 I'd prefer to be listed without mail :) 15:01 ShadowBot Desour: OK. 15:01 Desour ShadowBot: do you have something to tell me? 15:01 ShadowBot Desour: Error: The command "do" is available in the Anonymous and ChanTracker plugins. Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "do". 15:39 sfan5 .