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| 16:00 |
Krock |
there goes my afternoon #8641 |
| 16:01 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/8641 -- Clean up and fix freetype=false crashes by SmallJoker |
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| 16:24 |
rubenwardy |
Is there any reason that freetype isn't a hard requirement? |
| 16:27 |
nerzhul |
i think it should be yes |
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| 17:41 |
Krock |
whatever. the code needed a cleanup anyway |
| 17:41 |
Krock |
it's already a hard dependency for client builds, or guiFormSpecMenu wouldn't compile |
| 17:45 |
Krock |
How about a meeting today? paramat, rubenwardy, nerzhul ? |
| 17:47 |
rubenwardy |
Sure |
| 17:51 |
Krock |
one more? |
| 17:53 |
Krock |
nore, sofar perhaps? |
| 18:00 |
paramat |
i'm here from now on |
| 18:04 |
nerzhul |
if yo uwant ask questions i'm not so far |
| 18:11 |
paramat |
he's not sofar =) |
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| 18:39 |
Krock |
Well great. Missed the activity entirely. |
| 18:40 |
Krock |
> Is 5.0.2 needed for the newlines in setting name bug? |
| 18:40 |
Krock |
Source: https://dev.minetest.net/Meetings |
| 18:40 |
Krock |
I don't think so. Not broken enough to release a new version for that |
| 18:41 |
rubenwardy |
Asked because it could be a security issue |
| 18:42 |
Krock |
yes it is, but the only news is now that people might see it as fixed in the logs |
| 18:42 |
Krock |
I believe this bug existed for a very long time already, without anyone noticing it |
| 18:42 |
Krock |
better roll out 5.1.0 after the formspec changes are done |
| 18:48 |
Krock |
> What is needed to have good mobs in Minetest / Minetest Game? |
| 18:48 |
Krock |
This was already discussed earlier, with VE. They must offer at least as much functionalities so players would use it |
| 18:49 |
paramat |
i can't judge the newlines setting thing |
| 18:49 |
Krock |
Did anyone already ask Tenplus1 whether we could integrate his mod into MTG? |
| 18:50 |
Krock |
last time it was a fight about code style and when to fix it. Please not this topic again this time |
| 18:50 |
paramat |
see my comments in the thread for this topic |
| 18:50 |
Krock |
sorry, thread? missing link on the wiki |
| 18:50 |
Krock |
nvm. private Minetest organisation post |
| 18:51 |
paramat |
yes |
| 18:52 |
rubenwardy |
One big issue is the shitty built-in pathfinder |
| 18:52 |
Krock |
yep. that really need to improve first |
| 18:52 |
Krock |
seen the issue recently about the lag spikes. eww |
| 18:52 |
paramat |
so i'm ok with using mobs redo as long as it's checked first and altered if necessary. we'll need to maintain our own version for sure |
| 18:53 |
paramat |
oh and remove blood =) |
| 18:54 |
Krock |
better make it optional |
| 18:55 |
Krock |
kids and adults have different opinions on that for more intense gameplay |
| 18:55 |
paramat |
i can't see why, it's unnecessary |
| 18:55 |
paramat |
just extra code to maintain |
| 18:55 |
Krock |
it's eyecandy |
| 18:55 |
Krock |
> 2 lines of particlespawner |
| 18:55 |
Krock |
like, really? |
| 18:55 |
paramat |
it's also unpleasant and violent, not suitable for MTG |
| 18:55 |
rubenwardy |
I don't think the blood is needed |
| 18:56 |
rubenwardy |
It can be done in a mod to make it more realistic |
| 18:59 |
paramat |
i'm a mature adult and even i find blood particles repulsive =) |
| 18:59 |
Krock |
okay |
| 19:00 |
Krock |
> How best to manage Unarelith's refactors |
| 19:00 |
paramat |
no-one's asked tenplus1 yet no |
| 19:00 |
Krock |
noted the comments. will update the wiki page at the end |
| 19:01 |
Krock |
who added this point? If it's about the formspec, it has to wait |
| 19:02 |
rubenwardy |
It was me |
| 19:02 |
rubenwardy |
Obviously that has to wait |
| 19:02 |
Krock |
moving into the PR priority list |
| 19:02 |
rubenwardy |
But do we allocate a time and block areas completely whilst it's being refactored? |
| 19:03 |
rubenwardy |
Also applies to the game pr |
| 19:03 |
Krock |
how would you want to block it? |
| 19:03 |
Krock |
as in: not reviewing? |
| 19:04 |
rubenwardy |
In the same way we're blocking the formspec refractors: not review PRs when others have greater priority |
| 19:05 |
Krock |
okay. sounds good, but the contributors should easily see such planned area blocking |
| 19:05 |
Krock |
not sure though, how and where to show that |
| 19:06 |
Krock |
Using "Projects" might work. Sorting PRs is possible there too |
| 19:08 |
paramat |
which refactor are you talkng about? |
| 19:08 |
paramat |
but yes, blocking is ok for me as long as work goes ahead soon |
| 19:09 |
paramat |
"who added this point? If it's about the formspec, it has to wait" what are you referring to? |
| 19:11 |
Krock |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/projects/6 |
| 19:12 |
Krock |
paramat: the list point "Unarelith's refactors" |
| 19:12 |
paramat |
all i see on the wiki is 'How best to manage Unarelith's refactors' |
| 19:13 |
Krock |
> Combine pathfinder issues into a single issue |
| 19:13 |
Krock |
paramat: yes, that's why I asked |
| 19:13 |
Krock |
it's about https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/7970 |
| 19:13 |
Krock |
rubenwardy added the point because it's also a PR which causes major conflicts in the formspec code |
| 19:14 |
paramat |
ok |
| 19:14 |
paramat |
ah ok |
| 19:14 |
paramat |
misunderstood |
| 19:15 |
Krock |
regarding the Pathfinder. So it would become similar to the sneak issues report |
| 19:15 |
Krock |
it's all related to one function, so think it's fine to combine them. |
| 19:16 |
Krock |
would anyone like to collect & close the relevant issues to create a new, general issue about it? |
| 19:16 |
rubenwardy |
I don't have internet access currently |
| 19:16 |
rubenwardy |
But don't mind doing that |
| 19:16 |
rubenwardy |
There's 7 issues |
| 19:17 |
rubenwardy |
My flatmate took the router, so no WiFi. Moving into new place tomorrow |
| 19:17 |
paramat |
combining issues seems ok to me |
| 19:17 |
paramat |
oh well i'm not sure |
| 19:18 |
paramat |
if they're seperate issues, they should be seperate |
| 19:18 |
paramat |
? |
| 19:19 |
paramat |
combined issues are known to a pain |
| 19:19 |
paramat |
*to be a pain |
| 19:20 |
Krock |
slap that flatmate. how mean from them |
| 19:20 |
paramat |
some are near-duplicates though that can be combined |
| 19:21 |
Krock |
paramat: it could also be an overview list. In case the pathfinder is written from scratch, all of them could be closed anyway |
| 19:21 |
paramat |
use your good judgement =) |
| 19:21 |
paramat |
my experience is overview issues are also a pain to maintain |
| 19:21 |
paramat |
but neutral |
| 19:23 |
paramat |
i think close #4933 no response and was closed by author earlier |
| 19:23 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4933 -- Improve occlusion culling accuracy. by lhofhansl |
| 19:25 |
paramat |
#4888 doesn't seem essential but is a bugfix, no conflicts, just needs reviews, i think keep open |
| 19:25 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4888 -- Handle multiple deserialization of a block's entities by Rogier-5 |
| 19:26 |
paramat |
don't know why #5680 is 'possible close', see my comment, just needs reviews or disapproval |
| 19:26 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5680 -- Add minetest.get_artificial_light and minetest.get_natural_light by HybridDog |
| 19:29 |
Krock |
WTF Github |
| 19:29 |
Krock |
how dare you refreshing the page after I click "No thanks" |
| 19:30 |
paramat |
if #5653 needs altering it will need adopting. 'possible close' seems unsuitable, it just needs review =) |
| 19:30 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5653 -- Add 'once_per_session' to the LBM definition. Default is 'false'. by BluebirdGreycoat |
| 19:33 |
Krock |
needs review plus rebase |
| 19:34 |
Krock |
not important enough for me |
| 19:34 |
paramat |
closing #7233 no response from author |
| 19:34 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/7233 -- [WIP] Support 6 textures for more drawtypes by numberZero |
| 19:34 |
Krock |
too bad, but okay |
| 19:36 |
paramat |
i don't think numberzero likes to work on MT anymore =) |
| 19:36 |
paramat |
they sound rather fed up |
| 19:38 |
Krock |
his experimental rendering changes had a hard life |
| 19:38 |
Krock |
one of the oldest Possible Close PRs: #4888 |
| 19:38 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4888 -- Handle multiple deserialization of a block's entities by Rogier-5 |
| 19:39 |
paramat |
yes the frustration is very understandable |
| 19:39 |
Krock |
apparently still open. it makes sense to clear the array before populating it with the saved contents again |
| 19:39 |
Krock |
no idea how I forgot about this PR |
| 19:40 |
paramat |
removed 'possible close' |
| 19:41 |
paramat |
closed #4933 |
| 19:41 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4933 -- Improve occlusion culling accuracy. by lhofhansl |
| 19:44 |
Krock |
okay. Updated the wiki page. Let's see when the next meeting will be.. |
| 19:45 |
paramat |
anyway, 'Does 1 disapproval block a PR? ' |
| 19:45 |
paramat |
i think it should not |
| 19:46 |
paramat |
unless of course it is a valid and unarguable technical point thta means something can't be merged |
| 19:46 |
Krock |
indeed |
| 19:47 |
paramat |
*that |
| 19:54 |
rubenwardy |
I think that 1 disapproval should delay a pr |
| 19:54 |
rubenwardy |
But not block forever |
| 19:55 |
paramat |
i somewhat agree, a disapproval will tend to require more discussion |
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| 19:58 |
DS-minetest |
Could #8530 please be added to the formspec pr priority list? |
| 19:58 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/8530 -- Add scrollbaroptions FormSpec element by v-rob |
| 20:24 |
Krock |
thanks. added |
| 20:30 |
DS-minetest |
Krock: could it be moved one or two priorities up? it's not so big and scroll_container without settable min and max is a bit weird |
| 20:31 |
Krock |
thing is, maybe it could be integrated into style[] |
| 20:32 |
DS-minetest |
nah, the integrated scrollbars for example should not be "styled" this way |
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