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IRC log for #minetest-dev, 2018-10-27

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13:19 Topic for #minetest-dev is now Minetest core development and maintenance. Minetest 0.4.17.1 released! Chit-chat goes to #minetest. http://irc.minetest.net/minetest-dev/ http://dev.minetest.net/
13:19 sfan5 paramat: no, hasn't been said; it's fixed now
13:26 Gael-de-Sailly it still doesn't work
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13:36 sfan5 turns out starting ilbot before mysql does not work out too well
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14:08 paramat thanks
14:09 paramat works
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18:34 paramat so about #7483 , it seems just one issue remains, const stuff, the author is not willing to work on that. is anyone able to attend to this issue to get this merged? nerzhul maybe?
18:34 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/7483 -- Move touchscreen input handling to base GUIModalMenu class by stujones11
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18:35 paramat and #7395 , breaks network compat so needs to be merged before 5.0.0, good feature. i have posted testing code in the thread
18:35 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/7395 -- Add Lua methods 'set_rotation()' and 'get_rotation()' by CoderForTheBetter
18:36 paramat both of those already have 1 approval
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19:18 sofar had a short discussion in #flatpak
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19:18 sofar could we, for 5.0, consider following XDG?
19:18 sofar iow move from ~/.minetest to XDG_DATA_HOME etc
19:26 sfan5 sofar: it's possible to do this in a non-breaking fashion
19:27 sofar moving to a new, empty folder structure can be non-breaking, yes
19:28 VanessaE oh G*d no
19:30 T4im i wouldn't mind if the cache lands in $XDG_CACHE_HOME/minetest/
19:30 T4im backuping reasons
19:30 sfan5 it already does
19:31 sofar yeah, we already put cache there :)
19:31 T4im :D nice
19:31 T4im ah, but only if the env variable is set?
19:31 T4im i don't have a .cache/minetest yet
19:32 T4im ah, probably just messed my local config up here, nvm
19:32 sofar bad WM/user session program
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19:33 paramat best done after 5.0.0. dev is so slow even the few blockers we have will take a long time to clear
19:33 sfan5 we should start merging some more features actually
19:33 sfan5 there's so many finished PRs sitting idle
19:36 sofar the only time to do this is with 5.0
19:36 sofar there is no doing it after
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19:38 paramat why? (sorry if i don't understand)
19:39 sofar it's an invasive step to move everything
19:40 sofar I wouldn't ever do that unless it was a major revision
19:41 paramat ok
19:43 paramat there are some MT issues that discuss XDG
19:45 paramat well, maybe just one, #5217
19:45 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5217 -- Change save folder to ~/.local/share/minetest on *NIX platforms
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23:25 VanessaE what is even the benefit to MT?
23:51 p_gimeno not making users angry by polluting their home directory
23:52 jacky and conforming to XDG standards
23:53 VanessaE lesse,  .minetest, and... dot...um....
23:53 p_gimeno $ ls -1 ~/.[!.]* | wc -l
23:53 p_gimeno 3661
23:54 VanessaE I mean, it's a single dir.
23:54 p_gimeno each of these 3661 is a single dir, too
23:54 T4im that's what each of those ~3500 projects is thinking :D
23:54 p_gimeno ^
23:54 VanessaE whether it's in ~ or ~/.local/share it's still the same thing.
23:57 p_gimeno it would, if I looked there, but I don't. However I look in my home often.
23:57 jacky one is meant for general usage and other for more app-specific stuff
23:57 jacky like yeah plates go in the kitchen
23:57 VanessaE and you ls -la.... why?
23:57 jacky but they don't go on the dining table when you dry them
23:58 jacky [/b qen
23:58 * jacky continues to fail to computer
23:58 VanessaE when I first got into *nix, XDG was not a thing.  ~/.foo *was* how you do it.

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