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IRC log for #minetest-dev, 2017-11-29

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00:47 paramat thanks for 6708
00:47 rubenwardy :D
00:47 rubenwardy have you seen the bug in the comment?
00:47 rubenwardy it's a bug in master too
00:48 rubenwardy we only have 47 PRs older than this year
00:48 rubenwardy *only*
00:51 rubenwardy closed another one, duplicate of #6708
00:51 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6708 -- Add file and line to NodeDef field deprecation warning by rubenwardy
00:53 rubenwardy is Rogier-5 active anywhere?
00:56 paramat erm i don't understand the comment in 6708
00:57 paramat line 5 where?
00:57 rubenwardy in the code snippet
00:57 rubenwardy the comments indicate it
00:57 rubenwardy it gives the caller of the function that calls the deprecated function
00:57 rubenwardy not the line of the deprecated function
00:58 rubenwardy note that the NodeDef field warning points to the correct line
00:59 paramat oh i see
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01:01 paramat however 'minetest.get_mapgen_params()' is deprecated, if that's relevant
01:02 rubenwardy that's the point lol :D
01:02 rubenwardy the PR is about deprecation messages
01:02 paramat "we only have 47 PRs older than this year" rising contributions and/or falling dev time
01:03 rubenwardy well, it means we've been fairly successful at closing old PR
01:04 paramat oh i was looking at 3957 which is about 'warn if field exists'
01:04 rubenwardy lol
01:05 paramat so i can't see how 6708 replaces it
01:05 paramat never mind, i don't understand
01:06 rubenwardy it's the suggestion given in the PR
01:06 rubenwardy 3957 adds a backtrace to warn fields
01:06 rubenwardy 6708 adds a file and line number to warn fields
01:06 rubenwardy warn fields is a function called when something in register_node is deprecated
01:06 paramat ahh
01:09 rubenwardy #6153 would be a shame to miss
01:09 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6153 -- Windows: Cpack wix installer by adrido
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02:14 rubenwardy paramat, https://github.com/minetest/minetes​t/pull/6670#issuecomment-347729315
02:14 rubenwardy you'll like that
02:14 rubenwardy I voted against the first chat send PR, and it was rejected #5452
02:14 rubenwardy The PR was then remade when I was not around and merged: #5747
02:14 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5452 -- [CSM] Add send_chat_message() function by ronsoros
02:14 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5747 -- [CSM] Add send_chat_message and run_server_chatcommand API functions by paly2
02:17 paramat looking
02:19 paramat hmm
02:20 paramat 5452 didn't really have any support
02:21 rubenwardy none of them did
02:21 paramat considering the strength of feeling i think we have to take that into account and merge 6670
02:21 rubenwardy paramat, what do you think about merging  #6709 with "flavor"
02:21 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6709 -- Spelling fixes for the client Lua API document. by BluebirdGreycoat
02:21 rubenwardy given the API is still flavor
02:21 rubenwardy *flavour
02:23 rubenwardy if this was a PR to add chat messages, and the thumbs was the other way around (3 up, 9 down) then it wouldn't be merged
02:23 paramat it's ok to merge, spelling mismatch between docs and code is not critical, and flavor will very likely be used in csm code soon
02:23 rubenwardy kk, merging now
02:24 rubenwardy done
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02:26 rubenwardy lol paramat, approving after merge :D
02:28 paramat i'll add a comment to 6670
02:29 rubenwardy I wish http://dev.minetest.net/Client_scripting_plans was stuck to
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07:00 nore IMHO, concerning #6662, we should give the choice to the user between downloading and installing mods manually (with a hash check to ensure the same mod runs on the server), or automatically from the server while the mod is signed by its author, giving the possibility to the user to trust some mod authors (and needing to individually accept mods that are not by these authors or are not signed)
07:00 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6662 -- CSM causes security issues
07:01 nore The rationale behind all that is that whatever sandbox we do, there will be a way, at some point, to escape it -- sandboxes *are* buggy
07:03 nore On the other hand, downloading mods separately by the client already implies trust in the given code - and malicious code can be far more easily detected and removed
07:03 nore (As with server-side mods)
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07:06 ashtrayoz Might be OT, but:  how do I get a voice on #minetest-hub?
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07:16 jas_ ashtrayoz: ask Shara
07:17 jas_ (any op can give it to you, but shara can put you on the list.)
07:18 ashtrayoz jas_:  thanks
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07:22 ashtrayoz jas_:  BTW (and mostly on topic), if your terminal needs engine support to preserve metadata, #6604 has been update with suggestions from sfan5 and paramat.  It even has one thumbs-up :-)
07:22 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6604 -- Preserve node metadata as item metadata. by ashtrayoz
07:33 jas_ i keep meaning to test this, i will do so now (well, after my coffee is done making)
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14:17 jas_ https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6714
14:17 jas_ oops.  #6714
14:17 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6714 -- minetest.sound_play Offset
14:17 jas_ (that's a feature request, hope it's ok.)
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14:19 jas_ #6715 *steps away from github*
14:19 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6715 -- OpenAL device gets recreated each time the main menu is loaded.
14:20 kilbith https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meWr1G7aO7E
14:21 kilbith !title
14:21 ShadowBot kilbith: Error: That URL appears to have no HTML title within the first 4KB.
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14:26 jas_ n1 kilbith, now if only one could literally scroll inventory lists! ha
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14:27 kilbith soon (tm)
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14:37 nerzhul is this me or the CSM debate is ridiculous because solution is in tree since months, but we just don't have release MT ?
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22:34 Hijiri anyone know how to fix this build failure https://travis-ci.org/minetest/minete​st/builds/307565206?utm_source=github​_status&utm_medium=notification
22:35 Hijiri also is there a current planned API for remote CSM? By that, I mean specific functions, architecture etc.
22:35 Hijiri I was under the impression that it would be file-based like current server and local CSM, but BBGC suggested a simpler API where the server just sends code strings to execute on the client
22:36 Hijiri Or maybe it was the server registers code strings to be sent to the client
22:37 Hijiri That would make more sense, since you could isolate script environments by mod (though you would want to provide some other way of interoperation)
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22:41 Hijiri From what I can tell particles.cpp isn't built before it's needed by the linker
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