Time  Nick          Message
10:38 Zeno`         So, what's going on with the project everyone?
10:38 Zeno`         It's abandoned?
10:39 Zeno`         Because as far as I can tell it basically is. In the last 2 years there has been no real progress except to add more bugs and start migrating towards C++11 (which does not really help the project reach a milestone)
10:39 Zeno`         3 core devs are working on MultiCraft (hey, he pays well)
10:40 Zeno`         nothing else has happened in the last 2 years. In fact since the time I spent months and months optimizing the code the game/engine has, if anything, gone backwards in performance
10:41 Zeno`         now there is a direct attack on the name "minetest" and nobody cares.
10:41 Zeno`         there are direct attacks towards valuable community members. And nobody cares.
10:41 Zeno`         Is Minetest dead?
10:42 Zeno`         There are no skilled core devs contributing any longer
10:42 Zeno`         I mean... where do things go from here?
10:43 sfan5         >nothing else has happened in the last 2 years
10:43 sfan5         lul
10:43 sfan5         are you upset?
10:43 Zeno`         yeah I'm upset
10:50 Zeno`         I guess I'm more upset that the minetest project has been under active attack and nobody has said a single thing
10:50 Zeno`         it's like nobody cares about the project
10:51 Zeno`         nobody has stepped forward to defend respected members of our community when they have been attacked either
10:52 sfan5         or maybe just nobody (except you) takes this "attack" seriously because of who the "attacker" is
10:52 Zeno`         e.g. the recent, sickening and appalling attack towards VanessaE
10:53 Zeno`         just because the attacker is insane doesn't mean we have to be passive and pretend the problem doesn't exist. Does it?
10:53 sfan5         it does
10:54 Zeno`         *shrug*. I don't support a former member "doxing" and making false accusations towards former or current members of the minetest "group".
10:55 Zeno`         I don't support people threatening members of our community
10:56 sfan5         so what do you intend to do?
10:56 Zeno`         Exactly what I have been doing
10:56 sfan5         feeding the troll
10:57 Zeno`         look, when it goes from insulting email and progresses to the person contacting CBS and other media that's well beyond a troll
10:57 Zeno`         (and he did contact CBS, not the other way around like he tried to make it sound like)
10:57 Zeno`         (I have corresponded with CBS and confirmed this)
10:58 Zeno`         that's not trolling... those kind of actions are much much more serious
11:02 Zeno`         it's not trolling, it's criminal
11:02 Zeno`         :/
11:57 Fixer         sfan5: i did some GC64 tests with WE, and had success, it is definitely working
13:04 Wuzzy         Can you name me some development helpers for Minetest, both official and unofficial? Example: NodeBoxEditor
13:12 sfan5         Fixer: was this the windows build i compiled?
13:12 Fixer         sfan5: yes
13:13 sfan5         i see, nice
14:02 Zeno`         will merge #6288 in 10 minutes (trivial)
14:02 ShadowBot     Zeno`: Error: Delimiter not found in "HTTP Error 404: Not Found"
14:02 Zeno`         err
14:03 Zeno`         #6228
14:03 ShadowBot     https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6228 -- Update credits by Zeno-
14:14 Fixer         Zeno`: i disagree with you, minetest (engine) had big progress in two years
14:21 Fixer         sfan5: do you mind me posting topic on forum about GC64 and link to your build? we need more people to actually test it
14:30 ThomasMonroe_ umm why did i get a PM from Zachtest(aka OldCoder)?
14:32 sfan5         Fixer: i don't mind
14:39 Zeno`         sfan5, remove my access please
14:39 sfan5         of what
14:39 Zeno`         #minetest-dev
14:39 sfan5         why
14:39 Zeno`         because I asked? :)
14:39 sfan5         if you wish..
14:39 Zeno`         ty
14:58 Zeno`         I've removed myself from the github organisation
14:58 Zeno`         it's been a pleasure working with you all over the years
14:58 jas_          ty
14:59 sfan5         should've moved your name to previous contributors then
14:59 Zeno`         sfan5, I was still a contributor when I made the commit ;)
14:59 sfan5         true
15:01 Zeno`         actually I may even still be a contributor for the next release; I'd have to check commit logs and PR reviews
15:01 Zeno`         but I don't mind being moved
17:06 VanessaE      :(
21:12 VanessaE      can we get some more movement on #6042 please?
21:12 ShadowBot     https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6042 -- Make dropped items colorable by juhdanad
21:14 sfan5         can't do more than review it :)
21:14 VanessaE      you already did. :)
21:15 VanessaE      I'm just waiting on that one to go in so I can update some stuff