Time  Nick       Message
00:02 paramat    merged 6134
00:08 paramat    merging game 1828
00:11 paramat    done
04:15 Hijiri     is player object origin finally being changed to 0?
04:20 elinor     If you run a public server, you probably want to fix this before the next release: https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/1839. A temporary fix is modifying allow_take in games/minetest_game/mods/creative/inventory.lua to https://clbin.com/ZBIBD.
05:51 Hijiri     elinor: you know both 0 and -1 are truthy values in Lua?
05:51 elinor     Yes?
05:51 Hijiri     what is the point of returning -1 and 0 in different branches then?
05:51 Hijiri     oh
05:52 Hijiri     nevermind, I though allow_take returned a boolean
05:52 Hijiri     why is it a temporary solution though (and not a permanent one)
05:52 Hijiri     oh, you mean as not in the upstream code
05:52 Hijiri     okay, nevermind
11:14 karamel    Hello, I'm thinking about a mod lib to add onmove listeners. I see that some mods like trail uses a look to check pos and if changed trigger something. Is there a way to observe item (and players) positions more elegantly yet?
11:48 Fixer      https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/1839 niiiiice
12:44 karamel    Answered myself with issue 247 and walkover mod
13:49 Krock      merging game#1838 in 10 mins
13:49 ShadowBot  https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/1838 -- Correct farming/stairs dependency by Ezhh
15:27 Krock      game#1840 needs review
15:27 ShadowBot  https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/1840 -- Creative: Prevent unauthorized item access by SmallJoker
17:03 paramat    Krock rubenwardy sfan5 please could you consider game#1834 ?
17:03 ShadowBot  https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/1834 -- Improve descriptions by Ezhh
17:07 Krock      This makes the node handling much more complicated. "Sandstone Block" (as example) is descriptive enough
17:24 paramat    what type of node handling?
17:33 Krock      speaking of ingame: everybody will call it a sandstone block, because they already know what it is
17:43 paramat    yeah, but that doesn't stop us making the desciption more descriptive and non-ambiguous
17:49 Krock      IMO, this makes names unnecessary long for no real profit. But seeing more opinions about this topic would be great
17:49 bigfoot547 Please, fill me in on the conversation :)
17:50 paramat    Krock nerzhul nore rubenwardy sfan5 ShadowBot sofar 'meeting' in 10 mins if anyone's around
17:50 Krock      oh right. it's saturday again.
17:50 paramat    descriptions are harmless, and the advantage is being descriptive and non-generic
17:54 paramat    but yeah, the non-stone changes are the more useful
17:54 bigfoot547 You're gonna make me look at the logs, aren't yeh paramat :P
17:55 rubenwardy heh, I'm not so keen on grey as a prefix
17:55 bigfoot547 yah it's sorta "bleck"
17:56 rubenwardy sandstone is fine already
17:56 rubenwardy what stone is default:stone closest to?
17:56 rubenwardy it looks like black granite
18:03 paramat    could you add your opinions to game#1235 ? there's discussion but no coding, shall we close it?
18:03 ShadowBot  https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/1235 -- Character model: use latest Minecraft skin format
18:04 paramat    i think game#1782 could be closed
18:04 ShadowBot  https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/1782 -- Experience factor
18:06 paramat    seems a specialist thing for optional mods
18:08 Krock      the model we have right now is good enough IMO
18:08 Krock      closing 1782
18:11 paramat    yeah body layers can be done by changing textures, really not sure it's worth coding full body overlays into MTGame
18:11 Krock      rubenwardy, what exactly do you suggest here? https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/pull/1840#discussion_r128900593
18:11 juhdanad   Hi everybody!
18:11 Krock      o/ juhdanad
18:12 rubenwardy lool, Krock
18:12 rubenwardy this is why you check what you type on your phone
18:12 rubenwardy updated
18:12 Krock      xD already expected such kind of explanation
18:14 bigfoot547 As far as what happened in game#1834 I like what happened in vessels/init.lua
18:14 ShadowBot  https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/1834 -- Improve descriptions by Ezhh
18:14 Krock      corrected the style. merge now?
18:15 rubenwardy yeah, go ahead
18:15 Krock      (for the case anyone's preparing a push)
18:43 Raven262   Guys, can you tell me if allfaces drawtype *really* must not support different textures on each face?
18:46 paramat    i suspect different textures per face are fine
18:46 paramat    can't think why not
18:47 Raven262   I thought there is some kind of limitation in the engine.
18:47 paramat    not that i know of (might be wrong)
18:49 juhdanad   There is a limitation, only the first texture is used.
18:50 paramat    any idea why?
18:50 juhdanad   There is no reasin, it is just that way.
18:50 juhdanad   *reason
18:50 paramat    yeah thought so
18:51 juhdanad   same for glasslike and fencelike nodes.
18:51 paramat    it was made for leaves i guess which usuaaly have just 1 texture
18:51 paramat    *usually
18:52 Raven262   Well, it was kind of limiting me more than a few times when making "stainglass" like nodes.
18:52 Raven262   I don't think that was thought of when creating the drawtype :P
19:53 paramat    Krock rubenwardy so for game#1834 you prefer no changes to stone and sandstone? same opinion for 'sand' -> 'golden sand'? but all else is good (appletree woods flowers vessels)?
19:53 ShadowBot  https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/1834 -- Improve descriptions by Ezhh
19:54 Krock      yes
20:01 paramat    ok
20:01 paramat    that seems reasonable to me too