Time  Nick       Message
02:42 octacian   Anyone have thoughts on some sort of on_wield callback for items? I find myself implementing this functionality through globalsteps wayyy too often.
02:43 bigfoot547 I think it would help
02:43 bigfoot547 But I think on_point for nodes would help
02:44 bigfoot547 Like when a node is pointed at, that callback would be run
02:47 octacian   I think that would be more appropriate for CSM honestly
02:50 octacian   hmm, Do set/getFov methods already exist on the PlayerSAO?
02:50 benrob0329 octacian: I think the server has circumstances where it would be usefull
02:51 benrob0329 Say, a block glows when you look at it
02:51 octacian   it's possible, however, I see it very unlikely considering that there would be a large delay
02:51 octacian   hmm, Maybe you're right
02:51 benrob0329 Or a weeping angel
02:51 octacian   Should exist in both then IMO
02:52 benrob0329 on_point and on_unpoint perhaps?
02:52 benrob0329 Or on_look
02:52 bigfoot547 That could be good
02:52 octacian   Yes
02:53 bigfoot547 I do way too much of that in globalstep
02:53 bigfoot547 And I have to write my own ray-tracing stuff
02:53 bigfoot547 in lua
02:54 octacian   I'd really like to see #6017 addressed soon.
02:54 ShadowBot  https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6017 -- LuaEntitySAO: Add set/get_pitch
03:10 Hijiri     I'd like mine to be addressed too
07:38 nerzhul    hello, pushing a minor travis.yml fix
07:38 nerzhul    see https://travis-ci.org/minetest/minetest/jobs/244813718 warning
07:41 Zeno`      nerzhul, how does #6020 behave on your computer?
07:41 ShadowBot  https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6020 -- Fix console not being properly resized after window size changed by Zeno-
07:41 nerzhul    didn't tested it yet
07:41 nerzhul    i'm on archlinux with gnome and you ?
07:42 Zeno`      The problem is fixed for resizing window using mouse on window borders, but minimising doesn't work (and doesn't work before patch either). KDE/Plasma
07:42 Zeno`      Minetest (well irrlicht) doesn't get a notification in the latter case so I think it must be an upstream issue
07:44 Zeno`      can't do much if the event is not even triggered
07:45 Zeno`      for clarification (before the PR) f10 then type /help and then widen window. That's what it's fixing
07:47 VanessaE   can someone please re-check #5640 ?
07:47 ShadowBot  https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5640 -- Automatic item and node colorization by juhdanad
07:48 VanessaE   I'm trying to adapt unified dyes to use colored itemstacks and I need ^^^ that or it's a no-go.
07:48 Zeno`      I'm ok with it
07:52 nerzhul    i hope code is C++11 compliant :p
07:52 Zeno`      nerzhul, before the patch the chat window is not the correct size because the clipping rectangle is not updated when the window is resized
07:53 nerzhul    yeah i see the problem
07:53 nerzhul    problem is on mouse resizing, right ?
07:53 Zeno`      before patch, yes
07:53 nerzhul    let me some minuts to test that
07:53 nerzhul    i'm on my work pc CPU is low
07:54 nerzhul    Zeno`, can you check #6016 please ? :)
07:54 ShadowBot  https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6016 -- Merge cguittfont lib in irrlicht change folder. by nerzhul
07:58 Zeno`      it's just moving stuff?
07:59 VanessaE   *sigh*  #5640 doesn't apply on top of 0.4.16
07:59 ShadowBot  https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5640 -- Automatic item and node colorization by juhdanad
07:59 Zeno`      rebase it then :P
08:00 VanessaE   ...
08:00 Zeno`      nerzhul, I'm generally ok with 6016. Will check more after I eat
08:02 nerzhul    VanessaE, poke the maintainer
08:04 nerzhul    Zeno`, i don't have the console problem on my pc
08:04 nerzhul    console is correctly resized :(
08:05 VanessaE   nerzhul: I don't actually know what to do here.  I planned to stay on 0.4.x until some time long after 0.5.x has settled...
08:05 nerzhul    Zeno`, yeah it's just removing the xCGUITTFont crap hack + remove the static lib for one file xD
08:06 VanessaE   but I've zero idea what you guys are going to do, to that end.
08:06 nerzhul    VanessaE, me neither
08:06 nerzhul    we have objectives but i don't know which objectives will be reached
08:06 nerzhul    0.5 can be very far if we release bugfix release every 2 months (backport from master)
08:06 nerzhul    and we can prepare nice 0.5 release
08:06 VanessaE   well idc how long 0.5.x will take actually
08:07 VanessaE   I plan to stick to 0.4.x for as long as practical
08:07 nerzhul    the migration process is not easy for server owners
08:07 VanessaE   exactly.
08:07 nerzhul    maybe i should have a daily build server for testing
08:08 VanessaE   I'm a little miffed that that ^^ PR didn't make it in in time for 0.4.16, it's kinda critical to the idea of colored itemstacks
08:08 VanessaE   but whatever
08:09 nerzhul    i hope at a point there should be 0 PR opened, but it's a dream :p
08:10 nerzhul    also there are many issues reported, i think it can be very important to re-check issues at a point and fix/close issues
08:10 nerzhul    especially in feature freeze
08:10 nerzhul    Zeno`, if yo ucan look at #6012 & #6008 too can be nice
08:10 ShadowBot  https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6012 -- C++11 cleanup on constructors dir client by Dumbeldor
08:10 ShadowBot  https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6008 -- Fix render order of overlays by juhdanad
08:11 Zeno`      nerzhul, if you open console, leave it open and then widen the window it works?
08:12 VanessaE   another reason I wanted to stick to 0.4.x is no C++11 on my box, by default
08:12 nerzhul    it's resized yes
08:12 nerzhul    VanessaE, then wait, and upgrade all later
08:13 nerzhul    i really doesn't want to break any data and Lua API (except if real good justification), migration should be smoother we can
08:13 Zeno`      doesn't make sense because the clipping rectangle in not widened currently
08:14 Zeno`      very odd
08:14 Zeno`      so when the background rectangle is drawn (with the new wider dimensions) it's clipped to the old clipping rectangle
08:15 Zeno`      maybe irrlicht version difference. Hmm
08:15 nerzhul    1.8.4 there
08:16 Zeno`      ugh, I need my main computer
08:16 Zeno`      I'll give more info after I eat
08:17 Zeno`      however, the screenshot shows what I see so I'm not imagining it ;)
08:18 Zeno`      gnome is obviously broken :P
08:19 nerzhul    https://youtu.be/3fHrvzbmImI
08:19 nerzhul    look at that
08:20 Zeno`      make the window much smaller at the start maybe?
08:21 Zeno`      but that is not how it behaves for me :(
08:21 Zeno`      is that the f10 chat?
08:24 Zeno`      I'll make a video after dinner I guess
08:27 nerzhul    yeah it's chat and console , i do twice
08:39 * VanessaE pokes juhdanad (because nerzhul said to :P )
08:40 juhdanad   I've read the logs, should I rebase my PR?
08:40 VanessaE   I'm not sure.
08:40 VanessaE   I don't know what the procedure is for making patches that should be compatible with the 0.4.x line
08:40 juhdanad   On which commit do you want to apply it?
08:41 VanessaE   80dc961d
08:41 VanessaE   (i.e. 0.4.16-release)
08:41 VanessaE   but that's probably not what you want to do
08:41 juhdanad   I'll make a copy of my branch, maybe that will help.
08:41 VanessaE   no, don't do that
08:42 VanessaE   my server and client run 0.4.16-release and will not be upgraded past those until 0.4.17 is out
08:43 juhdanad   Then one question is left: why was I poked?
08:43 VanessaE   (unless there's some critical bug)
08:43 VanessaE   because nerzhul said to :)
08:43 VanessaE   but anyway, that patch is needed.  but I don't know against what branch or commit it should be rebased, as far as what's actually "right"
08:44 VanessaE   (if you rebased it against 0.4.16-release, it would probably work for me, but is that actually the correct procedure here in light of 0.4.17 coming out some day?)
08:44 VanessaE   sorry to be so cofusing
08:44 VanessaE   confusing*
08:45 nerzhul    i don't see any conflict, for me rebasing is not needed
08:45 nerzhul    only bugfixes will be ported to 0.4.17
08:46 nerzhul    for server owners, checkout to stable-0.4 branch to prevent mastre break
08:46 VanessaE   but is this a bug or a feature?  automatic handling of colored itemstacks <-> colored in-world nodes is kinda critical for the use of colorized recipes
08:48 juhdanad   VanessaE: you may try to cherry pick the commits.
08:49 nerzhul    it's a feature
08:49 VanessaE   *hangs head*
08:50 nerzhul    if you want custom stable 0.4 just cherry pick yourself
08:50 Zeno`      VanessaE, please return to the naughty corner
08:50 VanessaE   it's not about custom stable anything
08:50 VanessaE   it's about pointing my mod users to a stable release that has everything needed to run the mod.
08:50 nerzhul    merging #5640 in ~ 10 mins
08:50 ShadowBot  https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5640 -- Automatic item and node colorization by juhdanad
08:50 * Zeno`    points to the naughty corner
08:51 VanessaE   I *was* going to adapt unified dyes to use colored itemstacks.  now I can't without also telling them "be ready to switch to 0.5.x"
08:52 juhdanad   VanessaE: that PR works if only the server is updated.
08:52 VanessaE   juhdanad: "only if the server is updated"..... to what?
08:52 VanessaE   you mean if both client and server have the PR.
08:53 VanessaE   therein lies the rub.  I wanted that PR to make it into the 0.4.x line.  now nerzhul basically just said it won't.
08:53 juhdanad   I mean, the clients can stay on 0.4.15, only the server is changed by the PR.
08:53 VanessaE   that doesn't help singleplayer users.
08:53 juhdanad   If your 'mod users' are the players on your server.
08:53 VanessaE   I'm trying to prevent telling *anyone* "get the latest git"
08:54 VanessaE   my mod users are singleplayer users also, not just folks who play on my servers.
08:54 juhdanad   Then I should also fight for my PR in 0.4.17.
08:54 nerzhul    it's a pure maintainer workflow, we have core workflow maintenance and somes have mod maintenance too
08:54 juhdanad   (And go to the naughty corner)
08:56 nerzhul    what is naughtly corner ?
08:56 nerzhul    it seems it's an english expression :p
08:56 VanessaE   nerzhul: it refers to telling a child to go stand in the corner, facing away from others.
08:57 Zeno`      when they're naughty
08:57 nerzhul    i see
08:57 Zeno`      When I was in grade 1 at school I got put in a box at the front of the class so I could not distract other students
08:57 Zeno`      they could not see me and I could not see them
08:58 Zeno`      I guess that's worse than the naughty corner
08:58 Zeno`      the only person I could see was the teacher
08:59 Zeno`      I'm not sure if they'd be allowed to place students in a box, like they did to me, these days
08:59 Zeno`      It kind of backfired though because I enjoyed being in the box
09:00 Zeno`      VanessaE, you may leave the naughty corner now
09:00 Zeno`      bbiab ;)
09:03 juhdanad   Zeno` and you are developing a world full of boxes now.
09:18 Zeno`      What I want to know is why nobody else apparently sees what I see r.e. #6020
09:18 ShadowBot  https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6020 -- Fix console not being properly resized after window size changed by Zeno-
09:19 Zeno`      I *think* Windows users see the unusual behaviour as well but I'm not sure
09:20 Zeno`      so either it's a KDE (or plasma) issue or I dunno what
09:20 Zeno`      either way I think the fix should be applied. I don't want to merge without someone else testing the "fix" though
09:21 Zeno`      I'm not sure why the window manager should make a difference though. The clipping rectangle without the patch is not being recalculated. It's weird
09:23 Zeno`      Nevertheless I believe it *is* a bug because I, for one, see the behaviour without the patch
09:23 Zeno`      nerzhul, can you test *with* the patch?
09:23 nerzhul    not am i have production blockins at work
09:23 Zeno`      ok
09:24 nerzhul    if you can review the two PR i mentionned before :p
09:24 Zeno`      blackmailer :P\
09:24 nerzhul    fucking java applications
09:26 Zeno`      nerzhul, leave that workplace
09:26 Zeno`      it's messing with your head
09:29 Zeno`      and getting in the way of important minetest stuff!
09:30 VanessaE   there's one thing missing from #5640
09:30 ShadowBot  https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5640 -- Automatic item and node colorization by juhdanad
09:30 VanessaE   it does not pass the itemstack colors over to its drops
09:32 VanessaE   (for reasons that pass my understanding, I was able to compile and run current HEAD just fine on my box, with current dreambuilder.  that shouldn't have worked.)
09:32 VanessaE   anyways suppose you have modified stone and cobble to be colorable, with the former modified to drop the colorable version of the latter.  placing a colored stone and then digging it gives you white cobble.
09:42 Zeno`      VanessaE, can you please go back to the naughty corner?
09:42 VanessaE   no.
09:42 Zeno`      But you said "anyways"
09:43 Zeno`      Ok, you don't have to go to the naughty corner, but this is your last warning :P
09:43 Zeno`      anyways, brb again
09:43 Zeno`      err anyway*
09:44 juhdanad   Do you also think that the `drop` field of nodes is not properly documented?
09:45 VanessaE   juhdanad: that depends.  what form does the drop field need to take to ensure that a node passes its color info to its drop?
09:45 juhdanad   This is not coded yet.
09:45 VanessaE   I see.
09:45 VanessaE   ok.
09:45 juhdanad   I just asked in general.
09:46 VanessaE   otherwise I guess it's fine as-is
09:47 VanessaE   also,
09:47 VanessaE   there's a typo in the API,
09:47 VanessaE   https://github.com/juhdanad/minetest/blob/8d47b45e4030dcc04fc44d013841e283b26bf693/doc/lua_api.txt#L544
09:48 VanessaE   I think you meant to write "dyed =" in this line
09:48 juhdanad   Yes, you are right.
10:02 * VanessaE wanders off to bed.. night.
10:02 VanessaE   (good morning, Shara)
10:02 Shara      Sleep well VanessaE :)
10:29 nerzhul    merging #6020 in ~10 mins
10:29 ShadowBot  https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6020 -- Fix console not being properly resized after window size changed by Zeno-
13:31 juhdanad   Could you tell what is the style error there? https://travis-ci.org/minetest/minetest/jobs/244928941
13:32 red-001    none
13:32 red-001    it's just that lint doesn't work great
13:33 juhdanad   Maybe the double tab.
13:33 nerzhul    red-001, lint is quite good but sometimes not a good friend
13:33 nerzhul    but i agree with him here
13:34 nerzhul    clang-format -i src/environment.h && git commit && git push
13:34 nerzhul    :)
13:38 kilbith    2 warnings remaining: https://hastebin.com/sopetoyoze.txt
13:38 kilbith    for recall
14:26 nerzhul    for the second warning it's not easy to find it doesn't give us the function :(
14:55 nerzhul    merging #6016 in ~10 mins
14:55 ShadowBot  https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6016 -- Merge cguittfont lib in irrlicht change folder. by nerzhul
17:12 juhdanad   You can remove 'rebase needed' labels from #4421 and #4828, if you have time.
17:12 ShadowBot  https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4421 -- Expose getPointedThing() as Raycast by juhdanad
17:12 ShadowBot  https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4828 -- Improved line_of_sight by juhdanad
17:15 Krock      200
17:16 juhdanad   Thank you!
17:44 nerzhul    304
17:45 juhdanad   2*2*2*2*19
18:02 paramat    Krock nore rubenwardy sfan5 please can anyone consider game#1777 ? simple PR
18:02 ShadowBot  https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/1777 -- Crafting: Remove duplicate reversed recipes by paramat
18:38 Krock      paramat, I'm neutral on this FYI
18:38 Krock      these few recipes aren't a problem
18:47 paramat    ok
20:29 paramat    wow i wonder if it's the European heat that has slowed dev?
20:30 * paramat  imagines devs lying flat with tongues hanging out the corners of their mouths
20:30 Raven262   Heh that is for sure.
20:32 paramat    anyway huge thanks to nerz for the amazing amount of work recently
20:33 Raven262   He probably wasn't affected by the heat and all
20:33 Raven262   xD
20:34 Fixer      +30*C is just start
20:35 kilbith_   the community owe a big debt to nerzhul, he basically keep MT alive
20:37 nerzhul    paramat, if you look at commit log i send many commits whereas it's 32°C here: p
20:39 Raven262   You are heat resistant, we get it.
20:39 Raven262   xD
20:39 nerzhul    it's because i'm nude hahahaha
20:40 red-001    hopefully not thanks to the magic of asbestos
20:40 Raven262   lol
20:47 Fixer      lol
20:48 Fixer      typical summer
20:57 Raven262   Yea if you live in hell
21:18 * paramat  tries to unsee
22:13 paramat    octacian, zoom or minimap without server control is what is unreasonable, which is why we already have server control through either zoom priv or the minimap HUD flag. it's not necessary to move minimap to serverside to control it, server already has control over it. also please don't PM when you don't need to, the discussion is best had in this channel
22:14 octacian   Got it.
22:14 octacian   hmm, I must've misunderstood your statement on GitHub then.
22:15 octacian   So, with that in mind, +1 on the HUD flag.
22:15 red-001    in-thoery (tm)