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IRC log for #minetest-dev, 2017-06-17

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04:07 bigfoot547 G'night!
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06:42 nerzhul hello, can someone take a little moment to review #5999 please (i will fix the lint in a few minutes)
06:42 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5999 -- Cpp11 initializers 2 by nerzhul
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11:42 kilbith so I'm trying to build MT with MSVC 2017 and zlib does not show up in the CMake list
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16:56 kilbith warning on gcc 7: https://hastebin.com/ivezojunow.txt
16:56 nerzhul merging #5999 in ~10 mins
16:56 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5999 -- Cpp11 initializers 2 by nerzhul
16:57 nerzhul strange warning
16:57 nerzhul i don't have it on my GCC 7.1
16:58 kilbith another ones: https://hastebin.com/cesaxaxize.txt
16:59 kilbith last one: https://hastebin.com/ixawajenec.txt
17:03 nerzhul it seems your gcc added new checks no ?
17:03 nerzhul did you added -Wall or something similar ?
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17:06 VanessaE hey hey, the prodigal son returns!
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17:06 VanessaE or not :-/
17:06 red-001 and leaves
17:06 VanessaE I scared him away? :(
17:06 red-001 maybe the symbolism was too strong
17:10 nerzhul i think it's just a bad configured client like est31 :p
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18:01 ShadowNinja Alright, meeting starts now.  I'm a bit busy today so I don't know how available I can be.
18:02 VanessaE ShadowNinja: wait a minute.
18:02 ShadowNinja VanessaE: ?
18:03 VanessaE trying to drag someone in here against his will, to at least watch the chat
18:03 VanessaE :P
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18:03 VanessaE no, not him ^
18:04 paramat :( was hoping hmmmm was back
18:04 ShadowNinja OK, well... there's logs.  First: #5797  I think it needs a bit of work, the API is pretty clunky.
18:04 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5797 -- [CSM] Add function to set the FOV of the local player by bigfoot547
18:04 VanessaE paramat: I've been chatting with him.  The prospect looks bad.
18:04 VanessaE ok I guess meeting commences.
18:05 paramat ok
18:05 kilbith so does he comes or not?
18:05 VanessaE no.
18:05 VanessaE (or he's afk)
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18:05 ShadowNinja Thoughts on that PR?
18:06 paramat how is it being decided what gets looked at in meetings? doesn't seem like oldest first
18:06 VanessaE +1 for concept.  I can forsee a few uses for it.
18:06 sfan5 sounds useful to me, probably not too hard to rebase or even rewrite it
18:07 paramat we need a neutral unbiased approach to what is looked at
18:08 lisac kilbith, Can you please clarify what is wrong with #5978?
18:08 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5978 -- WoW-like item description position by lisacvuk
18:08 paramat otherwise it is, no offence, what ShadowNinja wants us to look at
18:10 ShadowNinja paramat: It's basically just what I choose, since only nerzhul ever seems to have anything to suggest.
18:10 kilbith lisac: it just feels wrong, I agree with paramat's comment
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18:10 paramat hehe
18:11 lisac :( I just think that mobile tooltip looks strange
18:11 kilbith close it, it has zero chance to be merged
18:11 kilbith with such an impoplarity
18:11 ShadowNinja paramat: See the meeting notes, and add something if you think it's worth discussing.
18:11 kilbith +u
18:11 paramat well shall we do oldest first then? least recently updated is unreliable because Github messes with that sometimes
18:12 lisac kilbith, I don't think I'll close it. If the devs close it, it's alright. But I'm not giving up just yet. :P
18:13 paramat yeah i realise that some issues will be decided by TODOs in the notes, that's fine
18:14 ShadowNinja paramat: Sure, I just put "ready to merge" first today.  Do you have any opinion on the one PR I posted?
18:15 ShadowNinja IMO it should be moved out of "ready to merge" until it's been cleaned up.
18:16 paramat yes added a comment
18:19 paramat seems overcomplex to me
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18:20 paramat so i agree not ready for merge
18:21 ShadowNinja paramat: Yeah, might be better to avoid temporaries completely.  Next, how about #5819?
18:21 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5819 -- Fix default item callbacks to work with nil users by raymoo
18:21 ShadowNinja Looks like it's pretty ready for merge.
18:29 paramat (ugh my head always seems to be at it's least clear at meeting time :])
18:38 paramat #4703 possible close
18:38 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4703 -- Rename “Use” key to “Turbo” by Wuzzy2
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18:39 paramat many want 'aux1'
18:40 paramat i'll ask the author if they are happy to change it to 'aux1'
18:41 red-001 misc1
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18:41 paramat i'll wait for wuzzy's reply then possibly close
18:42 DS-minetest Wuzzy won't be happy with "aux1" afaik
18:42 paramat yeah but i'll wait for a reply
18:42 paramat #5654 possible close
18:42 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5654 -- Add the ability to toggle camera mode backwards by bigfoot547
18:45 paramat #2398 author not active for 1.5 years, is it valuable enough to adopt by someone else?
18:45 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/2398 -- Add minetest.colorstring by Gael-de-Sailly
18:45 paramat oh i've labelled it 'adoption needed' already
18:46 paramat seems useful
18:47 red-001 +1 would be useful for generating rainbow text
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18:50 VanessaE well, THAT meeting fizzled out fast.
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18:51 red-001 yeah
18:52 * VanessaE pokes ShadowNinja
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18:59 paramat yeah meetings have been quiet recently, despite the intentions many just are not available at the time
19:02 VanessaE then surely a better time needs to be agreed upon
19:02 VanessaE ?
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19:06 nerzhul VanessaE, meeting with only 2 dev is fast :p
19:07 VanessaE just seems like a lot less was covered than perhaps ought to be.
19:08 nerzhul yeah it's difficult to make PR list being shorter than previous week
19:08 nerzhul we should be more incisive on some PR and just close some abandonned PR at a point
19:08 VanessaE well meetings need to cover more than just PRs.  bugs need addressed too.
19:09 VanessaE (you're not wrong though, close old abandoned PRs)
19:09 nerzhul priorize bugs can be nice yes
19:11 paramat well any time will have the same issue, it's not possible for many people to be available at any planned time
19:12 nerzhul yeah i eat with wife and child when meeting occurs generally
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19:15 paramat also i get a feeling an organised meeting makes people less happy to because it's a little 'corporate', it's what volunteers want to avoid in their spare time :] i get this anyway, natural rebel
19:16 paramat *less happy to participate
19:16 VanessaE yeah we know you paramat  ;)
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19:36 VanessaE paramat: can you weigh in on the homedecor beds issue?
19:37 paramat ok
19:37 paramat so i hope hmmmm is not ill or in a bad way, but i'm not surprised he doesn't want to return
19:37 VanessaE https://github.com/minetest-mod​s/homedecor_modpack/issues/367  this one btw
19:37 VanessaE oh, hmmmm is okay
19:37 paramat good
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19:53 paramat commented
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22:21 ThomasMonroe well, this is goodbye guys, im headed to camp i might be on later tonight, but that is a maybe, cya in a week if not then
22:21 bigfoot547 Bye!
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