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| 06:03 |
Zeno` |
nerzhul, I just noticed. What's the go with using #pragma once? |
| 06:03 |
Zeno` |
I thought we didn't use non-standard stuff without a fallback |
| 06:04 |
nerzhul |
it's standard |
| 06:04 |
Zeno` |
in what standard? |
| 06:04 |
nerzhul |
pragma once in C++11 |
| 06:04 |
Zeno` |
I don't think it is... |
| 06:04 |
nerzhul |
it is |
| 06:05 |
Zeno` |
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/23696115/is-pragma-once-part-of-the-c11-standard |
| 06:05 |
Zeno` |
"https://stackoverflow.com/questions/23696115/is-pragma-once-part-of-the-c11-standard [...]" |
| 06:05 |
Zeno` |
oops |
| 06:05 |
nerzhul |
you are right it seems commonly used by all compiler but not in standard |
| 06:05 |
nerzhul |
it's supported by clang, gcc and visual studio |
| 06:06 |
red-NaN |
to qoute wikipedia "In the C and C++ programming languages, #pragma once is a non-standard but widely supported preprocessor directive" |
| 06:06 |
nerzhul |
maybe we can use it ? :) |
| 06:07 |
nerzhul |
i didn't remember it's just used by compiler and not in the C++11 standard, maybe we can discuss this on meeting, i stop adding it to my next commits and we will choose if use it or no ? |
| 06:08 |
nerzhul |
if all major compiler uses it it's not standard but who compiles with other thing than GCC/Clang/VisualStudio/XCode :p |
| 06:08 |
nerzhul |
https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/4141z1cx.aspx |
| 06:08 |
nerzhul |
supported on VS 2008 |
| 06:08 |
nerzhul |
https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/4141z1cx(v=vs.90).aspx |
| 06:09 |
Zeno` |
I don't know if we should use it or not. I know everything supports it but it just /feels/ wrong hehe |
| 06:09 |
Calinou |
pragma once never was standard, but every non-embedded compiler on Earth supports it |
| 06:09 |
Calinou |
GCC, MSVC, Clang, ICC |
| 06:10 |
Calinou |
and has been so for years |
| 06:10 |
nerzhul |
the pragma once has one advantage: no name collision on #ifndef #define #endif and only one tag :) |
| 06:10 |
Zeno` |
that's true but the way they implement it is implementation defined behaviour (by definition) |
| 06:10 |
Zeno` |
nerzhul, that's the big advantage yes |
| 06:11 |
nerzhul |
yeah, but as it seems used since a decade i hope it's stable : |
| 06:12 |
nerzhul |
and generally compilation is a little bit more faster on header because compiler stop reading header file on pragma once whereas #ifndef #endif requires to find the ending tag |
| 06:12 |
Zeno` |
I guess we just come to a decision and document that decision somewhere |
| 06:13 |
Zeno` |
yeah I think on gcc at least compile times are not improved (or only very slightly if they do) because of optimisations in the compiler for header guards |
| 06:13 |
nerzhul |
yeah, i think it's interesting to update our rules if we can use some commons things like a pragma once :) it's not a fixed document, if majority agreed let's g |
| 06:13 |
Zeno` |
but the name collision thing is a compelling argument /to/ use #pragma once |
| 06:13 |
nerzhul |
Zeno`, maybe it's why gcc is so slow to compile against clang :p |
| 06:14 |
Zeno` |
(just in case I wasn't clear; I'm not against using it, I'm against using non-standard extensions unless they're discussed and agreed upon) |
| 06:14 |
Zeno` |
nerzhul, I think that's more because gcc is the titanic and clang is a super cruiser heh |
| 06:17 |
Zeno` |
well I'm ok using it I guess |
| 06:18 |
nerzhul |
it's good to report the point :) |
| 06:18 |
Zeno` |
the benefits do outweigh anything unbeneficial anyway |
| 06:18 |
nerzhul |
yeah |
| 06:22 |
nerzhul |
:) |
| 06:23 |
nerzhul |
Zeno`, can you look at #5924 & #5933 please ? |
| 06:23 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5924 -- Have the server send the player list to the client by red-001 |
| 06:23 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5933 -- [CSM] Add function to get player privileges by red-001 |
| 06:23 |
Zeno` |
I can only have a quick look atm, not a full review |
| 06:23 |
nerzhul |
no problem, 5933 is relatively small, 5924 is a little bit more big but it's useful :) |
| 06:26 |
Zeno` |
5933 is pretty straightforward |
| 06:26 |
Zeno` |
no surprises in that one |
| 06:27 |
Zeno` |
I'm not on my main computer atm, so cannot easily browse source code |
| 06:27 |
Zeno` |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/5933/files#diff-7b00a65f007af40388e565e5c34d8461R334 |
| 06:27 |
Zeno` |
that can't be const? |
| 06:27 |
Zeno` |
anyway, that's my only comment on 5333 |
| 06:28 |
nerzhul |
the client pointer ? no |
| 06:28 |
Zeno` |
how come? |
| 06:29 |
nerzhul |
because we can write some things on this object if needed |
| 06:29 |
nerzhul |
Client *client = getClient(L); |
| 06:29 |
nerzhul |
client->makeScreenshot(client->getDevice()); |
| 06:29 |
nerzhul |
for example :) |
| 06:29 |
Zeno` |
it's in a function though |
| 06:30 |
nerzhul |
do you talk about getClient or the stored pointed itself ? |
| 06:30 |
Zeno` |
only ->getPrivilegeList() is used |
| 06:30 |
Zeno` |
the pointer |
| 06:30 |
nerzhul |
then const Client *client = getClient(L); |
| 06:30 |
nerzhul |
@Zeno- |
| 06:30 |
nerzhul |
? |
| 06:30 |
nerzhul |
oops ty gh :p |
| 06:30 |
Zeno` |
Client *client = getClient(L); <--- why not const Client *client = getClient(L); |
| 06:31 |
Zeno` |
unless getPrivilegeList() is not getPrivilegeList() const of course |
| 06:31 |
nerzhul |
it's sont :p |
| 06:31 |
nerzhul |
const |
| 06:31 |
nerzhul |
const std::unordered_set<std::string> &getPrivilegeList() const |
| 06:31 |
nerzhul |
i though we don't care about constness except on references and functions ? :o :) |
| 06:32 |
nerzhul |
then take your time heh it's better to have your right PR |
| 06:32 |
nerzhul |
i add #5928 to the reviews, i fixed the windows build :) |
| 06:32 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5928 -- C++11 patchset 5: use std::threads and remove old compat layer by nerzhul |
| 06:33 |
Zeno` |
I care though :D |
| 06:34 |
nerzhul |
for me no problem to add const on pointers which can be |
| 06:34 |
Zeno` |
:+1: on 5333 aside from my comment anyway |
| 06:34 |
Zeno` |
I'm driving and then will review the others |
| 06:34 |
nerzhul |
168 PR |
| 06:35 |
nerzhul |
:( |
| 06:35 |
Zeno` |
I can write a script to close them all if you want |
| 06:35 |
nerzhul |
lol |
| 06:35 |
Zeno` |
heh anyway bbiab :) |
| 06:40 |
* red-NaN |
just creates another PR anyway |
| 06:50 |
red-NaN |
#5940 |
| 06:50 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5940 -- Use a settings object when generating world.mt and set player_backend to sqlite. by red-001 |
| 07:04 |
nerzhul |
merging #5933 in ~10 mins (ptr fct fixed) |
| 07:04 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5933 -- [CSM] Add function to get player privileges by red-001 |
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tenplus1 |
hi folks |
| 09:15 |
tenplus1 |
can we add this now that 0.4.16 is outta the way: https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/pull/1543 |
| 09:16 |
tenplus1 |
creative.is_enabled_for(name) supplies player name but isnt currently used, so this pull gives it one by adding 'creative' priv to survival mode games |
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| 11:13 |
kilbith |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/pull/1543#issuecomment-306741963 |
| 11:13 |
kilbith |
what the hell |
| 11:13 |
kilbith |
Zeno` is not allowed to approve |
| 11:19 |
Zeno` |
excuse me? |
| 11:19 |
kilbith |
you're not _game maintainer |
| 11:20 |
Zeno` |
bad luck. I approved anyway |
| 11:20 |
kilbith |
I think you didn't see it was MTG's PR |
| 11:20 |
kilbith |
well, yet another time you're breaking the rules |
| 11:20 |
Zeno` |
I didn't see, no. But take it to management |
| 11:20 |
Zeno` |
what rule? |
| 11:20 |
kilbith |
that only the maintainers can officially approve |
| 11:20 |
kilbith |
also, go do something productive instead of fouling around |
| 11:21 |
Zeno` |
stop trolling, please |
| 11:21 |
kilbith |
reminding you the rules is not trolling, sorry |
| 11:22 |
Zeno` |
the mtg maintainers are free to ignore the approval |
| 11:22 |
Zeno` |
they don't need reminding |
| 11:22 |
kilbith |
you're not allowed to add such label |
| 11:23 |
Zeno` |
technically, no. |
| 11:23 |
Zeno` |
But they can fix it |
| 11:23 |
kilbith |
we are not going to clean your shit frequently |
| 11:23 |
Zeno` |
you? |
| 11:24 |
kilbith |
here is all you have done for the engine in 6 months: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commits/master?author=Zeno- |
| 11:24 |
Zeno` |
it's not your responsibility to clean things up. Sorry. |
| 11:24 |
Zeno` |
kilbith, that shows nothing about reviewing stuff etc etc etc |
| 11:24 |
kilbith |
it's my responsability to notify the maintainers |
| 11:25 |
Zeno` |
well, notify them! |
| 11:25 |
kilbith |
they are now |
| 11:25 |
kilbith |
Zeno`, you didn't review much from what I've seen |
| 11:26 |
kilbith |
you spent more time in -hub to shitposting |
| 11:26 |
Zeno` |
why are you attacking me? |
| 11:26 |
kilbith |
I only do a resume of your actions |
| 11:27 |
Zeno` |
If you cannot be in this channel without resorting to being an arsehole towards devs then I will ban you. |
| 11:27 |
Zeno` |
So, stop it. Please. |
| 11:27 |
kilbith |
you are the "devs"? |
| 11:28 |
kilbith |
*you* are being the arsehole breaking rules |
| 11:28 |
Zeno` |
I am "a" dev, yes |
| 11:28 |
kilbith |
err, sorry |
| 11:28 |
red-NaN |
oh give it a rest |
| 11:28 |
kilbith |
*who are the *devs*? |
| 11:28 |
red-NaN |
it's just a lable |
| 11:28 |
red-NaN |
label* |
| 11:29 |
kilbith |
someday I'll just disclose what you wrote about c55 in PM |
| 11:29 |
sfan5 |
give it a rest |
| 11:29 |
Zeno` |
kilbith, and I'm sure you won't fake the logs. Get a grip. |
| 11:30 |
kilbith |
no I won't, I actually take screenshots |
| 11:31 |
red-NaN |
I mean screenshots aren't much harder to fake |
| 11:31 |
Zeno` |
sfan5, please remove my approval to an MTG PR if you feel it necessary. I did not notice that it was part of MTG and not engine |
| 11:31 |
Fixer |
we need more MTG maintainers |
| 11:31 |
Fixer |
MTG is so snail |
| 11:32 |
kilbith |
threatening of banning me when it's actually me who invited you to get back in MT... |
| 11:32 |
Zeno` |
There was a request to review in here with a link |
| 11:32 |
Zeno` |
I did so |
| 11:32 |
Zeno` |
end of story |
| 11:32 |
kilbith |
then why did you officially approve? |
| 11:33 |
Zeno` |
I just clicked the link that was provided in this channel (minetest-dev) |
| 11:33 |
Zeno` |
I reviewed it and approved |
| 11:33 |
Zeno` |
what don't you understand? |
| 11:34 |
kilbith |
I notified you that you weren't allowed to add such label but refused to take it into consideration |
| 11:34 |
red-NaN |
how horrifying a label got added to a PR |
| 11:34 |
kilbith |
that show your intend to actually break the rules, right? |
| 11:34 |
red-NaN |
how could something so horrible happen? |
| 11:34 |
kilbith |
I'm talking to Zeno, not you |
| 11:34 |
red-NaN |
then use PM |
| 11:35 |
red-NaN |
you don't get to have private conversations on a public forum |
| 11:38 |
Zeno` |
This is ridiculous. Being attacked like this for an honest mistake is stupid |
| 11:39 |
nerzhul |
wtf at lunch time, i think i should not have added a whisky with my french fries |
| 11:39 |
kilbith |
it wasn't a mistake since you *refused* to remove the label yourself |
| 11:39 |
Zeno` |
If celeron55 wants so much to separate MTG from minetest then it should be in a different organisation and repo |
| 11:39 |
Zeno` |
Removing the label was not a mistake |
| 11:39 |
nerzhul |
Zeno`, no need it just needs to create two github groups and make them have different power on each repository |
| 11:39 |
Zeno` |
I won't be bullied by non-devs into removing or doing anything |
| 11:40 |
kilbith |
in the past you wanted to allow more people to approve PRs in MTG |
| 11:40 |
Zeno` |
that's an entirely different issue |
| 11:40 |
nerzhul |
red-NaN, can you explain me the purpose of #5940 exactly ? |
| 11:40 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5940 -- Use a settings object when generating world.mt and set player_backend to sqlite. by red-001 |
| 11:40 |
celeron55 |
is kilbith a minetest_game developer? |
| 11:41 |
kilbith |
no |
| 11:41 |
red-NaN |
the idea was to cleanup the code a bit and set the player_backend so new worlds don't use the files backend |
| 11:41 |
celeron55 |
then i don't think it's your problem |
| 11:41 |
kilbith |
celeron55, I'm on the #6 top-contributer on it ;) |
| 11:41 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6 -- Apples on the trees can not be eaten |
| 11:41 |
kilbith |
so talk to me with respect, ok? |
| 11:41 |
celeron55 |
if minetest_game devs consider what Zeno does unwanted, then they can note it to me and i'll ask Zeno to stop (or otherwise solve it) |
| 11:42 |
nerzhul |
kilbith, stop to be rude PLEASE. |
| 11:42 |
kilbith |
what's rude is breaking the rules |
| 11:42 |
red-NaN |
and it would be nice to get some feedback on #5941 |
| 11:42 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5941 -- [CSM] allow the client to access and modify settings in the `client.` namespace. by red-001 |
| 11:43 |
nerzhul |
Zeno` is responsible and other dev too, they will see he isn't allowed and fix it. |
| 11:43 |
celeron55 |
i agree Zeno probably shouldn't touch minetest_game but i've given out minetest_game management for a purpose, and the purpose is that i don't need to care 8) |
| 11:43 |
nerzhul |
celeron55, can you create 2 teams and split the rights ? |
| 11:43 |
celeron55 |
i probably should |
| 11:43 |
celeron55 |
maybe in a few weeks when i'm less busy |
| 11:44 |
nerzhul |
we already have website + core, it miss the mtg + core separation heh |
| 11:44 |
nerzhul |
wow red-NaN i didn't notice we don't use our backend if file doesn't exists, nice shot in the old code heh |
| 11:45 |
Zeno` |
nerzhul, that's right. And sfan5 has removed the label. It's not up to non-devs to come in here and attack me for making a mistake |
| 11:45 |
Zeno` |
I clicked on a link when requested for review. *shrug* |
| 11:45 |
kilbith |
seriously dude |
| 11:45 |
nerzhul |
red-NaN, you also enable player_backend to sqlite, nice, we are in 0.5 it's good |
| 11:45 |
kilbith |
I don't have an official role on MTG but I was a major contributor on it, so yes I care for that project |
| 11:46 |
kilbith |
I'm the n°6 of MTG, so fuck off |
| 11:46 |
Zeno` |
kilbith, then MTG review requests should probably not be allowed in this channel since it can so easily lead to honest mistakes |
| 11:46 |
red-NaN |
^ |
| 11:47 |
red-NaN |
split mt_game off into a new channel |
| 11:47 |
kilbith |
why not |
| 11:48 |
nerzhul |
generally there is no discusison about MTG here, and also it's minetest-dev not minetest-core-dev i'm neutral and don't care about this |
| 11:48 |
nerzhul |
rights are sufficient on GH to prevent bad actions |
| 11:49 |
nerzhul |
Zeno`, can you review #5928 #5940 and #5924 please ? (it's core you are allowed heh) |
| 11:49 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5928 -- C++11 patchset 5: use std::threads and remove old compat layer by nerzhul |
| 11:49 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5940 -- Use a settings object when generating world.mt and set player_backend to sqlite. by red-001 |
| 11:49 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5924 -- Have the server send the player list to the client by red-001 |
| 11:49 |
DS-minetest |
red-NaN: is there yet settingtypes.txt for csm? |
| 11:49 |
red-NaN |
not yet |
| 11:50 |
red-NaN |
well it shouldn't be too hard to add |
| 11:52 |
red-NaN |
DS-minetest, since you are a major CSM modder it would be good to get some feedback on the API |
| 11:52 |
red-NaN |
for 5941 |
| 11:52 |
DS-minetest |
:D |
| 11:53 |
red-NaN |
it forces modders to mannually added "client." to every setting they want to use |
| 11:54 |
red-NaN |
I could make it do that automaticly but then it wouldn't match wants really inside the config file |
| 11:54 |
nerzhul |
red-NaN, it's a strange appoach but i should review it carefully |
| 11:54 |
red-NaN |
and what the server would see in singleplayer |
| 11:55 |
DS-minetest |
some settings might be ok for the server to show imo |
| 11:55 |
red-NaN |
so what I did was basicly implement a reverse version of the "secure." namespace |
| 11:55 |
red-NaN |
DS-minetest, it would be but it would be hard to auto generate that list |
| 11:56 |
nerzhul |
oh there is a secure namespace i didn't know, what do we store inside it ? |
| 11:56 |
red-NaN |
so it would be best if settings that the client should be able to access a slowly moved to the "client." namespace |
| 11:56 |
red-NaN |
nerzhul, mod security set up |
| 11:56 |
red-NaN |
so lists of mods that can access insecure functions |
| 11:56 |
nerzhul |
okay |
| 11:58 |
red-NaN |
I **think** my isClient function should be safe from mod tampering but thats because I based it on the existing isSecure function |
| 12:01 |
DS-minetest |
but clientmods that don't come from client shall never access insecure functions, right? |
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DS-minetest |
a configurable list of settings that can be accessed by clientmods could be good |
| 12:02 |
red-NaN |
in the current security set up only *bultin has any special privileges |
| 12:03 |
red-NaN |
but if this isClient function is secure we could hopefully remove those extra privileges |
| 12:09 |
DS-minetest |
would it be simply possible to make the functions always access settings starting with `client.` if there's no special prefix (like `global.`)? |
| 12:10 |
DS-minetest |
or `#` since that's normally not allowed |
| 12:11 |
DS-minetest |
so, `#G` or something like that |
| 12:11 |
red-NaN |
and then make CSM settingtype.txt when it's added add "client." to the start of setting names right? |
| 12:12 |
DS-minetest |
yes |
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red-NaN |
well I could do that |
| 12:14 |
red-NaN |
alright I will change that |
| 12:14 |
red-NaN |
thanks for the input |
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| 13:19 |
Zeno` |
For everyone's information, kilbith is being so aggressive towards me because I would not change tab_credits.lua to his liking and refused to make changes after he threatened me. It's one of the reasons I closed the PR |
| 13:20 |
kilbith |
... |
| 13:20 |
kilbith |
I'm not going to add oil to the fire |
| 13:21 |
Zeno` |
well, it's true |
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Sokomine |
latest mt does not compile for me: minetest/src/convert_json.cpp:65: undefined reference to `Json::Value::Value(Json::Value&&)' any ideas of what i did wrong? |
| 13:38 |
Thomas-S |
Sokomine: Are you using C++11? I think Minetest was updated recently to require C++11. |
| 13:43 |
Sokomine |
Thomas-S: seems to be gcc 4.9.2 that i'm using. not sure about C++11 support |
| 13:44 |
Zeno` |
make clean (optional) and then run cmake again and make |
| 13:45 |
Zeno` |
if that doesn't work then remove cmake cached files |
| 13:45 |
Sokomine |
did that already. cmake . -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1 -DENABLE_GETTEXT=1 -DENABLE_FREETYPE=1 -DENABLE_LEVELDB=1 ; make -j2 is my usual compile script. and i even did a make clean once |
| 13:46 |
Sokomine |
hm. gcc 5 does seem to be the first one to have stable support for C++11? and i have 4.9.2? so maybe debian's gcc is too old? |
| 13:46 |
Zeno` |
in source builds... eww |
| 13:47 |
Fixer |
latest mt compiles fine for me |
| 13:47 |
Fixer |
msys2/mingw64/gcc 6.3 |
| 13:52 |
nerzhul |
Sokomine, gcc 5.1 is required |
| 13:52 |
nerzhul |
GCC 4.9.2 has partial C++11 support, it doesn't support move constructor (your jsoncpp linking error) |
| 13:52 |
Sokomine |
ah. so no new mt for debian stable users for a couple of days |
| 13:52 |
nerzhul |
you can install GCC 5.1 or 6 or 7 from ubuntu toolchain |
| 13:53 |
nerzhul |
Sokomine, => deb http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu trusty main universe |
| 13:53 |
nerzhul |
and install gcc 6 |
| 13:53 |
nerzhul |
and g++ 6 |
| 13:54 |
Sokomine |
nerzhul: thanks! will install |
| 13:59 |
Fixer |
Sokomine: or wait before new debian release, it is soon |
| 14:00 |
nerzhul |
41 days |
| 14:00 |
nerzhul |
10 |
| 14:00 |
Sokomine |
but...10 days without latest mt? :) |
| 14:01 |
nerzhul |
heh, it's MT with C++11, actually no breakage except compiler :) |
| 14:02 |
Calinou |
Sokomine: try compiling using Clang, maybe |
| 14:02 |
Calinou |
https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=clang |
| 14:03 |
Calinou |
Jessie has 3.5, which hopefully has full C++11 support |
| 14:03 |
nerzhul |
yeah :D |
| 14:03 |
nerzhul |
in backports No ? |
| 14:03 |
Calinou |
no, in the base repository |
| 14:03 |
Calinou |
Stretch will have 3.8 |
| 14:03 |
Fixer |
Sokomine: or use this? https://gitlab.com/nerzhul/minetest/builds/ |
| 14:03 |
Calinou |
http://clang.llvm.org/cxx_status.html |
| 14:03 |
nerzhul |
Fixer, heh could be a solution |
| 14:04 |
Calinou |
actually, Jessie even has full C++14, it seems |
| 14:04 |
nerzhul |
Fixer, it's not the official repository |
| 14:04 |
nerzhul |
here is official repository https://gitlab.com/minetest/minetest/pipelines |
| 14:05 |
nerzhul |
debian 9 pipeline failed to download files from time to time locking all pipeline :( |
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Fixer |
oops |
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nerzhul |
Calinou, C++14 is marginal in our usage hopefully, C++11 is a huge move C++14 is a must have but not required here heh |
| 14:10 |
Calinou |
yeah, new projects could use C++14 just fine today, MSVC 2017 also has full support for it |
| 14:13 |
srifqi |
Uh, I can't compile Minetest from just fetched repo. ._. |
| 14:14 |
srifqi |
It says an error around mutex. I have no idea what it is. |
| 14:14 |
Calinou |
srifqi: you need a compiler with C++11 support |
| 14:14 |
Calinou |
if you don't have one, just use Minetest 0.4.16 |
| 14:14 |
Calinou |
Clang from Ubuntu 14.04 and Debian 8 supports C++11 |
| 14:14 |
Calinou |
(but not GCC) |
| 14:15 |
srifqi |
Oh, GCC doesn't support it? That's why. |
| 14:15 |
Calinou |
so you could install Clang, and compile Minetest using it: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/7031126/switching-between-gcc-and-clang-llvm-using-cmake#7032021 |
| 14:15 |
Calinou |
recent versions of GCC do, but not the old ones |
| 14:15 |
Calinou |
(Ubuntu 16.04 and Debian 9 are fine) |
| 14:15 |
srifqi |
I use GCC 7.x, iirc. |
| 14:15 |
Calinou |
then it should not be an issue... |
| 14:15 |
Calinou |
try doing a "cmake ." again, "make clean" then "make" again |
| 14:15 |
srifqi |
Maybe I should try to reinstall GCC. |
| 14:16 |
Calinou |
then pastebin the error |
| 14:16 |
srifqi |
The error is too long that Command Prompt window is not enough. |
| 14:17 |
Calinou |
you on Linux or Windows? |
| 14:20 |
srifqi |
On Windows 10, but have Ubuntu on Windows feature. .-. |
| 14:21 |
Calinou |
try "make &> build_log.txt", this will write all command output (including errors) to build_log.txt in the folder where you're compiling Minetest |
| 14:21 |
Calinou |
(works at least on Bash) |
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srifqi |
Let me try. |
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srifqi |
Okay, now I get some libraries is missing for cc1.exe to work. |
| 14:30 |
srifqi |
Let me reinstall the compiler. |
| 14:32 |
srifqi |
I was using GCC 7.x from MinGW-W64. Usually I use MinGW from MinGW Installation Manager. Which do you prefer, Calinou? |
| 14:32 |
Calinou |
MinGW-w64 is fine |
| 14:32 |
Calinou |
it doesn't have a package manager like MSYS2 though |
| 14:32 |
Calinou |
(which lets you install commonly-used dependencies easily, thus saving time) |
| 14:33 |
srifqi |
I have MSYS2 installed too. |
| 14:33 |
srifqi |
Shortly, I had 3 compiler: MinGW Installation Manager, MinGW-W64, and from MSYS2. |
| 14:34 |
srifqi |
and now I'm confused. |
| 14:35 |
Calinou |
unfortunately, it's not exactly easy to compile Minetest for Windows... it would be if we provided some sort of "SDK" with all libraries pre-built |
| 14:35 |
srifqi |
But MSYS2 doesn't work with Windows path. |
| 14:35 |
Calinou |
or include the source of dependencies in-tree (but you can already hear the more conservative Linux users yelling at that) |
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srifqi |
Let me try with my first-installed compiler (from MinGW). |
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srifqi |
Also, &> is not correct syntax in cmd, |
| 14:37 |
Calinou |
the Windows command promot knows about > and >> IIRC, but not &> |
| 14:37 |
Calinou |
prompt* |
| 14:37 |
Calinou |
not sure if > redirects both stdout and stderr on Windows |
| 14:37 |
Calinou |
srifqi: another thing you could try is compiling for Windows from the WSL ;) |
| 14:37 |
Calinou |
but I've never tried that |
| 14:38 |
srifqi |
What is WSL> |
| 14:38 |
srifqi |
?* |
| 14:38 |
Calinou |
Windows Subsystem for Linux |
| 14:38 |
Calinou |
"Bash on Ubuntu on Windows" as they call it |
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srifqi |
Oh, I have that. |
| 14:39 |
srifqi |
So, can I cross-compile? |
| 14:39 |
red-NaN |
or lxss |
| 14:39 |
red-NaN |
srifqi, you should be able to |
| 14:43 |
srifqi |
Calinou, the correct command is `make > log.txt 2>&1`. |
| 14:43 |
Calinou |
yes, it's the POSIX command |
| 14:43 |
srifqi |
red-NaN, have you try it? |
| 14:43 |
sfan5 |
make &>log.txt is shorter |
| 14:43 |
Calinou |
but according to https://stackoverflow.com/questions/7526971/how-to-redirect-both-stdout-and-stderr-to-a-file, both work |
| 14:43 |
Calinou |
at least on Linux |
| 14:43 |
Calinou |
(and even on macOS according to some people) |
| 14:44 |
Calinou |
and since the WSL is basically Linux... |
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sfan5 |
Calinou: this "sdk" you want exists, the buildbot |
| 14:44 |
Calinou |
does it include .dll/.lib of all libraries? |
| 14:44 |
sfan5 |
every single library is available prebuilt |
| 14:44 |
Calinou |
ah |
| 14:45 |
sfan5 |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/util/buildbot/buildwin64.sh#L32 |
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red-NaN |
no but the userland of WSL is identical to ubuntu |
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Calinou |
yeah, that's what I meant |
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red-NaN |
as it the binarys are initical |
| 14:46 |
red-NaN |
WSL is implemenet at the kernal level |
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srifqi |
I was using cmd when I said it. |
| 14:49 |
srifqi |
pastebin or mozilla pastebin? |
| 14:50 |
red-NaN |
doesn't matter |
| 14:50 |
red-NaN |
paste.ee is pretty neat througg |
| 14:51 |
red-NaN |
through* |
| 14:52 |
srifqi |
https://pastebin.mozilla.org/9023740 |
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srifqi |
Calinou |
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Calinou |
looks like a compiler that doesn't support C++11 to me |
| 14:56 |
Zeno` |
I hope everyone now looks back to my original comments (1-2 years ago) not supporting C++11 and the abusive answers I got directed towards me |
| 14:56 |
Calinou |
Zeno`: well, it's not hard to use a C++11-compliant compiler |
| 14:57 |
Calinou |
but judging of Minetest and MinGW's nature, you're better off cross-compiling from Linux to Windows if you want GCC, or use MSVC on Windows directly |
| 14:57 |
red-NaN |
it's a six year old standard |
| 14:57 |
srifqi |
https://stackoverflow.com/a/25952133/5338238 |
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Zeno` |
Calinou, it kinda is. But anyway, that was ages ago. I am glad to see that my comments/objections were correct though even if it's now causing problems |
| 14:58 |
red-NaN |
srifqi, what compiler are you using? |
| 14:58 |
Calinou |
yes, you need to install with POSIX threads, not win32 threads |
| 14:59 |
srifqi |
Calinou, that's why. .-. |
| 14:59 |
srifqi |
red-NaN GCC 5.3.0 |
| 14:59 |
Calinou |
pretty sure the default is to use POSIX threads :) |
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Calinou |
(in the installer) |
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red-NaN |
huh you can crosscompile minetestw ith gcc? |
| 15:01 |
Zeno` |
At the time when C++11 was first raised (when there were still many many LTS linux distros that did not support it) I was accused of objecting to C++11 because I was too old ROFLOL |
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red-NaN |
now it's just debain (tm) |
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Zeno` |
red-NaN, yeah. But I am vindicated finally |
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Calinou |
you could use Clang on Debian 8 and Ubuntu 14.04, and it'd work as usual |
| 15:03 |
Calinou |
Clang is not an obscure compiler anymore, it works well for lots of things now :P |
| 15:03 |
red-NaN |
Calinou, would appimages solve this? |
| 15:03 |
Calinou |
red-NaN: AppImages would allow you to *run* Minetest on these systems, without compiling |
| 15:03 |
Calinou |
but not to build yourself... |
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nerzhul |
Zeno`, i want to abuse you by asking you to help me to merge some PR :p |
| 15:04 |
Calinou |
(unless you're willing to use Clang, or find a custom repository with up-to-date GCC) |
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red-NaN |
well if we added daily appimage builds... |
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Zeno` |
nerzhul, but I am watching Star Trek |
| 15:04 |
nerzhul |
i's not incompatible with C++11 :p |
| 15:04 |
red-NaN |
that would solve a lot of the reasons for which people want to build minetest |
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glut32 |
hi all |
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Calinou |
maybe they have GCC 8 and Clang 5 in Star Trek ;) |
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nerzhul |
oh C++11 is obsoleted in star trek and doesnt' compile, understood |
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glut32 |
My job mate has this error : 2017-06-07 16:30:37: WARNING[Main]: MapBlock::deSerialize(): Ignoring an error while deserializing node metadata at ((0,2,19): deSerializeLongString: size not read |
| 15:08 |
glut32 |
and after a bad_alloc |
| 15:08 |
glut32 |
2017-06-07 16:30:37: ERROR[MeshUpdate]: An unhandled exception occurred: std::bad_alloc |
| 15:10 |
Calinou |
glut32: what Minetest version is the client/server on? and operating system? |
| 15:11 |
glut32 |
this is where the execption : https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/src/util/serialize.cpp#L218 |
| 15:11 |
glut32 |
He used win7 |
| 15:11 |
glut32 |
on a custom map |
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red-NaN |
does it happen every time the map is loaded? |
| 15:12 |
glut32 |
Do you think that the map is corrupted |
| 15:12 |
glut32 |
only after 5 or 10 minutes |
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red-NaN |
looks like a damaged mapblock |
| 15:13 |
red-NaN |
but it shouldn't crash minetest |
| 15:13 |
glut32 |
I think that size is not setted and cuz a bad_alloc (no memory available) |
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glut32 |
*cause |
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nerzhul |
bad_alloc no memory means your PC has no more memory for the problam |
| 15:14 |
nerzhul |
program |
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sfan5 |
because it throws an exception it should never come to allocate any memory |
| 15:15 |
glut32 |
but there memory available like 1go |
| 15:15 |
glut32 |
we see the memory usage |
| 15:16 |
glut32 |
the game consumes 1.7 go |
| 15:16 |
glut32 |
and we are on a 6go ram pc |
| 15:19 |
Fixer |
use 64 bit minetest |
| 15:21 |
Fixer |
32 bit one has tendency to run out of memory if you explore big areas |
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Zeno` |
There is no memory allocation on that line :/ |
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kilbith |
Zeno`, just curious, what are those "abusive answers"? |
| 15:28 |
Zeno` |
kilbith, you know exactly what they were |
| 15:28 |
kilbith |
no? I don't sorry |
| 15:28 |
Zeno` |
The comments made by gcu when I objected at the time to moving to C++11 |
| 15:29 |
kilbith |
where they are? |
| 15:29 |
kilbith |
oh on the forum |
| 15:29 |
Zeno` |
IRC logs. Probably on the forum as well. |
| 15:29 |
nerzhul |
2 years ago why not, all compilers were not ready heh |
| 15:29 |
nerzhul |
now all projects are moving because they were waiting for redhat and debian |
| 15:30 |
kilbith |
Zeno`, dug it out: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=169046#p169046 |
| 15:30 |
kilbith |
indeed, abusive... |
| 15:30 |
Zeno` |
lol, that is not what was said on IRC :P |
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nerzhul |
jsoncpp, yamlcpp, minetest, SDL2PP, libreoffice etc :D |
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kilbith |
Zeno`, what was said on IRC? |
| 15:32 |
Zeno` |
Search the logs previous to that date. You can use gregorycu, zeno and sfan5 as keywords |
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kilbith |
I'll probably ask gcu himself |
| 15:34 |
Zeno` |
I'm sure you'll be honest enough to post the link (that you know exists) once you find it |
| 15:34 |
kilbith |
it's fair to get both parties versions of the history |
| 15:34 |
Zeno` |
it's all in the logs |
| 15:34 |
kilbith |
of course |
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* srifqi |
is trying to remake Minetest after reconfiguring it. |
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srifqi |
Look! Different error. |
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kilbith |
Zeno`, http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest-dev/2015-01-29#i_4135010 |
| 15:40 |
sfan5 |
??? |
| 15:40 |
sfan5 |
how does personal drama keep leaking here |
| 15:40 |
sfan5 |
this is the dev channel |
| 15:40 |
kilbith |
adressing Zeno' request |
| 15:41 |
Zeno` |
That is not the conversation I am referring to |
| 15:41 |
kilbith |
let's move it to -hub, ok? |
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srifqi |
C:/mingw-w64/mingw32/i686-w64-mingw32/include/crtdefs.h:123:1: error: '__MINGW_EXTENSION' does not name a type; did you mean '__GNUC_EXTENSION'? |
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srifqi |
.-. |
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red-NaN |
#5852 |
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ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5852 -- Improve the path select GUI by red-001 |
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red-NaN |
could anyone review it? |
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red-NaN |
it's a useful improvement and bugfix |
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nerzhul |
merging #5942 in ~10 mins |
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ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5942 -- make ret variable in /builtin/mainmenu/tab_credits.lua local by DS-Minetest |
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itubal |
Hi all |
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red-NaN |
could someone restart https://travis-ci.org/minetest/minetest/jobs/240491344 ? |
| 19:34 |
sfan5 |
done |
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red-NaN |
that build seems to randomly fail fairly often |
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nerzhul |
merging #5940 in ~10 mins |
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ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5940 -- Use a settings object when generating world.mt and set player_backend to sqlite. by red-001 |
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nerzhul |
sfan5, can you take 10 mins to test/approve #5928 please ? :) |
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ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5928 -- C++11 patchset 5: use std::threads and remove old compat layer by nerzhul |
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red-NaN |
!tell Krock are you ok with #5852 now? |
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ShadowBot |
red-NaN: O.K. |
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nerzhul |
red-NaN, please fix file into the clang-format-whistelist please to make lint okay |
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nerzhul |
you renamed it and it's not in the whitelist either :) |
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nerzhul |
i think we should configure clang-format to use 1 line per variable instead of this package mode no ? sfan5 ? => https://travis-ci.org/minetest/minetest/jobs/240492414 |
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sfan5 |
what do you mean? |
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nerzhul |
i mean in the following link i can configure clang-format to cofmrat using the --- lines instead of +++ lines :) |
| 19:48 |
nerzhul |
to format* |
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nerzhul |
1 variable per line in constructor instead of packaged mode based on line length |
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nerzhul |
many discuss about this on meeting and then define a code style rule and apply it with clang-format ? |
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sfan5 |
if that's possible it would be nice to have it |
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nerzhul |
sounds to be ConstructorInitializerAllOnOneLineOrOnePerLine, testing it |
| 19:51 |
nerzhul |
https://clang.llvm.org/docs/ClangFormatStyleOptions.html |
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nerzhul |
yeah it works well |
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nerzhul |
if initializer fit on one line, 1 line else 1 per line |
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nerzhul |
sounds nice |
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nerzhul |
mm the rule is nice except the colon... and i don't see how to control it |
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nerzhul |
here is the result, i'm not very fan: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/5944 |
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rubenwardy |
heh |
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rubenwardy |
I prefer ClassName(params): |
| 20:13 |
rubenwardy |
which is what most of the code consistently uses |
| 20:15 |
kilbith |
that guy should be more listened: https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/1757#issuecomment-306745450 |
| 20:15 |
kilbith |
a real truthful asshole who often cut through all the BS |
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kilbith |
I love that |
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nerzhul |
rubenwardy, i prefer it too but there is no option, then... fuck :p |
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nerzhul |
closing the PR i don't see how to solve it properly except sending upstream patch :p |
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red-NaN |
kilbith, like you said code talks bullshit walks |
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nerzhul |
red-NaN, https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/5852/commits/c41e98a889ba187464d55ea04a87deac6f75000d |
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nerzhul |
seems you paste a link in the whitelist :p |
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red-NaN |
I have no idea how that even happened |
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red-NaN |
copy and paste seems to be working in myterious ways lately |
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nerzhul |
libevent2 is very nice to handle low level socket using event API and portable on all OS i think it's a good choice to rewrite the network stack properly, it's robust and widely used |
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nerzhul |
(i'm starting to poc a new stack which is efficient and lightweight) |
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itubal |
Hi |
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itubal |
good night everybody |
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itubal |
I want to make a question |
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itubal |
I'm doing a craftnode. whow can I put some of this nodes in my world?? |
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itubal |
Sorry |
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itubal |
i put craftnode.... CRAFTITEM is the correct term |
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calcul0n |
itubal, make a recipe so players can craft it ? |
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calcul0n |
or do you mean a node which should be present on the map ? |
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itubal |
I try to put the craftitem with : |
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itubal |
minetest.add_item |
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itubal |
first i need de craftitem |
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itubal |
https://rubenwardy.com/minetest_modding_book/chapters/nodes_items_crafting.html |
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itubal |
The same a "diamonds_fragments" |
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itubal |
No, it isn't a node, a basic node. |
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itubal |
it is a "craftitem" |
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calcul0n |
there is no add_item method |
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calcul0n |
Craftitems cannot be placed in the world. |
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calcul0n |
i don't see what you are trying to do |
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itubal |
I can see the craftitem in my inventory |
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itubal |
i want to see this "node" this crafftitem in my world |
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calcul0n |
so you have to register it with register_node instead of craftitem |
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calcul0n |
add use minetest.set_node() |
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itubal |
no. I dont want a node. I want a craft item |
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itubal |
https://github.com/itubal/ejemplosminetest |
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itubal |
this is the source code |
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calcul0n |
damn, i was wrong, there is an add_item method :) |
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itubal |
i want a craftitem. The player gets this craftitems and with them make a craft |
| 21:45 |
itubal |
yes there is a add_item |
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itubal |
please download the repository |
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itubal |
https://github.com/itubal/ejemplosminetest |
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itubal |
do you speak spanish? |
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calcul0n |
no, sorry |
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calcul0n |
but it looks like add_item takes either an ItemStack or a table like { name="itemname" } |
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itubal |
o don't worry. i'n making some mistakes ... but i'm sure that you can understand me |
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calcul0n |
yes i do |
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calcul0n |
maybe try something like minetest.add_item({x=4, y=1, z=3}, { name="mimod:esparto" }) |
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calcul0n |
ho, a simple string seems to be fine too after all |
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itubal |
I'll try |
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itubal |
{name = "mimod:esparto"} |
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itubal |
I copied this line from a scripts that is working |
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calcul0n |
yes, i also see some mods using a simple string, so it shouldn't be the problem |
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calcul0n |
are you sure the y positions are above the ground ? how did you get them ? |
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itubal |
In the game. |
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itubal |
i can see the position pressing F5 |
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itubal |
i'm trying this ... and ... doesn't appear |
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calcul0n |
maybe you should add 1 to all y positions |
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calcul0n |
not sure, but they are maybe spawning in the ground |
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itubal |
2017-06-07 23:59:13: WARNING[Main]: Irrlicht: PNG warning: iCCP: known incorrect sRGB profile |
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calcul0n |
i always have this warning, i don't think it's related |
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itubal |
ok ... this is usefull to know |
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