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paramat |
ok |
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paramat |
will merge #5560 #5581 #5606 in a moment |
| 00:50 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5560 -- Fix tool digging speed limit by HybridDog |
| 00:50 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5581 -- Fix Lua crash if opening door with slab or stair by MarkuBu |
| 00:50 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5606 -- Conf.example: Move some lines to minetest.conf.example.extra by paramat |
| 01:04 |
paramat |
merging |
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paramat |
complete |
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VanessaE |
paramat: I can haz soft overlays? :) |
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VanessaE |
excuse me, s/:)/:3/ |
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paramat |
erm looking |
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paramat |
i assume sfan5 is +1 now |
| 01:32 |
paramat |
seems popular so i'm sure it will get another +1 |
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paramat |
WIP game#1704 |
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ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/1704 -- Ores: Add tin ore, lump, ingot and block by paramat |
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nore |
can someone else review #5373 please? I already tested it and it works fine |
| 03:22 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5373 -- Add the possibility to skip light update and fix light later by juhdanad |
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rdococ |
is water level stored in the lower 4 bits or the upper 4 bits of param2? assuming it's 4 bits of course, could be more |
| 03:49 |
VanessaE |
lower 4 bits |
| 03:50 |
rdococ |
ty |
| 03:50 |
rdococ |
hm |
| 03:50 |
rdococ |
so % 16? |
| 03:50 |
VanessaE |
it's more or less analogous to the flow rate of the water, though I doubt that's what it was intended for. |
| 03:50 |
VanessaE |
just read it directly, the upper bits are always 0 as far as I've seen. |
| 03:51 |
rdococ |
I'm gonna % 16 just to be sure |
| 03:51 |
rdococ |
so the higher it is, the more water there is, or the higher there is, the faster the water is? |
| 03:51 |
VanessaE |
yes. :) |
| 03:51 |
VanessaE |
think of it as volume of flow |
| 03:51 |
rdococ |
wait, both? |
| 03:51 |
VanessaE |
a horizontal stretch of water won't exceed more than 7 or 8 |
| 03:51 |
VanessaE |
while a vertical flow will quickly hit 15 |
| 03:52 |
VanessaE |
(that's why it's useful for technic's water turbines) |
| 03:52 |
rdococ |
so the lower 4 bits is how fast the water is? |
| 03:53 |
VanessaE |
more or less. it's not an exact science |
| 03:53 |
VanessaE |
(also, offtopic for -dev) |
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nerzhul |
nice clang 4.0 in arch heh |
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sofar |
https://github.com/sofar/mtmediasrv |
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nrzkt |
what do you think about #5612 ? |
| 09:05 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5612 -- toolcap meta overriding by raymoo |
| 09:05 |
nrzkt |
i'm not very aware about this feature, but i helped raymoo to fix the performance issues |
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kilbith |
that could be very useful for enchanting stuff if I understand it right |
| 09:09 |
nrzkt |
kilbith: i think it's the idea, but i don't know if it's sent to client or not |
| 09:10 |
nrzkt |
i don't think ti's sent to client, and i will increase memory usage of itemstacks, but it's not the most used object |
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nrzkt |
are dig timers meta ? |
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sfan5 |
https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/665ax5/ubuntu_is_switching_to_wayland_by_default/ |
| 09:49 |
sfan5 |
do we support wayland? |
| 09:50 |
sfan5 |
or rather does mt work with xwayland or whatever that thing is called? |
| 09:51 |
kilbith |
answer: yes, it does support xwayland fine |
| 09:51 |
kilbith |
irrlicht does not support wayland natively tough |
| 09:51 |
sfan5 |
well as long as it runs it's fine |
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nrzkt |
sfan5: no we don't support wayland, irrlicht doesn't support it |
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est31 |
sfan5: last time I've checked, wayland was supported through xwayland |
| 11:08 |
est31 |
although only newer versions of it work reasonably, as older ones suffer from this bug |
| 11:08 |
est31 |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1763 |
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kilbith |
why does he leaves |
| 11:19 |
kilbith |
still connected even |
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nrzkt |
yeah, strange he left project but answered questions sometimes, yes xwayland old versions has a problem with mouse, but it's fixed now, |
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Hijiri |
can someone review #5612? |
| 17:45 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5612 -- Allow overriding tool capabilities through itemstack metadata by raymoo |
| 17:48 |
nerzhul |
already done |
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Fixer |
nerzhul: minetestserver starts |
| 18:21 |
Fixer |
nerzhul: running minetest gives https://i.imgur.com/QrHr5gg.png (is not it should bitch about that on install?) |
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sofar |
something moved/removed it |
| 18:25 |
sofar |
distro problem |
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sofar |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=17411&p=264611#p264611 |
| 18:33 |
sofar |
mtmediasrv now does everything, collection, service index.mth, making hashes |
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rubenwardy |
I suggest writing `A go compiler to build the service` |
| 18:40 |
sofar |
no, because I intend to release prebuilt versions |
| 18:40 |
sofar |
since it's neatly configurable |
| 18:42 |
nerzhul |
Fixer, do you have irrlicht 1.8 on debian 8 ? |
| 18:42 |
nerzhul |
i think yes :p i just need to add package deps |
| 18:42 |
nerzhul |
as i said :) |
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nerzhul |
sofar, and coffee ? |
| 18:43 |
sofar |
dishes |
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nerzhul |
nice job sofar |
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Fixer |
nerzhul: it does have it, but it is not installed %) |
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sofar |
ok, posted binaries as well for linux 32/6bit |
| 18:59 |
sofar |
I can do more platforms if people need it, but I doubt it |
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ShadowNinja |
nerzhul: You recently did a copy -> reference change to spawn_ltree. There's another spawn_ltree function with the same issue. There's also large-object-copying in c_content.cpp (read_item_definition), httpfetch.cpp (HTTPFetchOngoing::HTTPFetchOngoing), and container.h (MutexedQueue::push_back). |
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sofar |
2017/04/19 19:51:54 Scaning mediapath: /var/minetest |
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sofar |
2017/04/19 19:51:54 mediascan linked/copied files: 1078 |
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sofar |
2017/04/19 19:51:54 mtmediasrv: Number of media files: 949 |
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sofar |
2017/04/19 19:51:54 mtmediasrv: version 1 (v1) started |
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sofar |
sweet |
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sofar |
fully operational |
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nerzhul |
ShadowNinja, possible, i didn't get time to review all things |
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nerzhul |
read_item_definition is less anoying, i'm fixing it, but it's only called by register_item_raw :) |
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nerzhul |
ShadowNinja, sofar just a notice i'm waiting travis and i will merge #5615 which is basicly fixes for some points reported by cppcheck (somes are also reported in your comment ShadowNinja ) |
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ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5615 -- Fix various copy instead of const ref reported by cppcheck by nerzhul |
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sofar |
peekItem is gone? |
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sofar |
ok with me, I assume peekItem was now unused |
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nerzhul |
it's unused in inventory list, not itemstack if i'm right |
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nerzhul |
inventory list it's sure |
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nerzhul |
travis happy, merging |
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nerzhul |
guys, another pr #5616 which same goal, const ref, constructor init |
| 21:35 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5616 -- Fix various copy instead of const ref reported by cppcheck (part 3) by nerzhul |
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nerzhul |
as it's fairly trivial too, i will merge it when travis will be green |
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nerzhul |
merged |
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paramat |
wow lots of consts, i can't really judge if they're ok |
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OldCoder |
<paramat> OldCoder please could you either rename this channel to 'minebest-..' or shut it down? |
| 22:22 |
OldCoder |
Paramat: No. Rename this channel yourself... or shut it down. I've talked to Freenode and Celeron55. You're advised to speak more politely. Difficult though you and others seem to find the concept. |
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OldCoder |
This channel: #minetest-dev. Earn the right to speak as you have. |
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rubenwardy |
wtf does that even mean |
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rubenwardy |
"rename this channel yourself" - #-project or #-dev ? |
| 22:24 |
VanessaE |
I think he means -project |
| 22:24 |
VanessaE |
take the 'minetest' out of the channel name. |
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paramat |
http://irc.minetest.net/minetest-project/2017-04-18#i_4881276 |
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rubenwardy |
I think the best approach is to just ditch it like #-mods |
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rubenwardy |
or redirect to hub |
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VanessaE |
is that possible? who can do that? |
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rubenwardy |
/cs migrate #oldchannel #newchannel |
| 22:28 |
rubenwardy |
c55 is the only one that can do that |
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rubenwardy |
or OC |
| 22:29 |
garywhite |
I have a theory that I'm rolling out among people that Ik on MT |
| 22:29 |
garywhite |
I'm PMing each individual person and telling them to migrate |
| 22:30 |
garywhite |
Ik that you guys don't have the time to do that, but I can if you prefer |
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OldCoder |
May I add... I asked Perttu this and he didn't respond... Who among you except for perhaps two people... has both been with the project for as many years and put in as many hours as I have? Not Perttu. Not paramat. Who can make the claim? |
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OldCoder |
RBA is the backbone. I don't think he has an IRL job. He was here before me and is basically embedded in the project. Vanessa, surely, semi-retired or not now, has been here forever and has made innumerable contributions. Most of the rest of you... You're smug, prideful, Johnny Come Latelies. You should be ashamed at recent events. But you look in the mirror and say, "There stands a hero". |
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OldCoder |
rubenwardy, your behavior, in particular has been a disappointment. |
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sofar |
OldCoder: as long as you're reading the irc logs, you're still in here. |
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rubenwardy |
I've been here longer than OldCoder, just saying |
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celeron55 |
i wish i didn't have to read this book he's writing to me again |
| 22:39 |
celeron55 |
it's been the same book for weeks and i don't even read books |
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VanessaE |
celeron55: care to give us the inside-back-cover summary? ;) |
| 22:40 |
celeron55 |
no i think those two lines were impolite enough |
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Fixer |
celeron55: shame on you :trollface: some books are great, worst part is you have huuuuge list of great books that you can't even start reading :( |
| 22:40 |
Fixer |
like earth history |
| 22:42 |
Fixer |
VanessaE: have you seen my message about OOM? guest what, newest dreambuilder on newest engine = OOM within 10min, technic-worldgen, kek |
| 22:42 |
VanessaE |
:( |
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sfan5 |
Fixer: is that with lua gc64? |
| 22:42 |
Fixer |
sfan5: no, 2.1.0-beta2 that you use |
| 22:43 |
VanessaE |
I still get occasional OOMs, but they always, invariably cite mesecons, even with GC64 (so in this case, i think it's mesecons trying to allocate a fuckton of RAM all at once due to some bug, and failing) |
| 22:43 |
sfan5 |
well then we can probably blame the lack of gc64 |
| 22:43 |
Fixer |
10 ---ing minutes and it is OOM, and I have not even started building anything, just walked like 500 nodes... |
| 22:44 |
paramat |
game#1704 is tested and ready for review |
| 22:44 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/1704 -- Ores: Add tin ore, lump, ingot and block by paramat |
| 22:45 |
sfan5 |
paramat: btw this one game pr that is a fix has two approvals already |
| 22:45 |
sfan5 |
(just fyi) |
| 22:45 |
Fixer |
paramat: you guys need to think about that bronze tools, or remove them... they are useless, i'm not going MINING TWO ORES, smelt it, combine it, to have a slightly better steel pick or whatever, thats ridiculous |
| 22:46 |
VanessaE |
Fixer: well, the bronze/tin stuff is still technically WIP isn't it? |
| 22:46 |
Fixer |
VanessaE: it is not |
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VanessaE |
paramat: ^^^ |
| 22:47 |
Fixer |
bronze tools is different issue |
| 22:47 |
Fixer |
related one |
| 22:47 |
Fixer |
who even use bronze? |
| 22:48 |
paramat |
ok will merge later, just in case you want to check the diff |
| 22:49 |
Fixer |
if you want to keep that useless and pricy bronze tools, they need to have some really special abilities |
| 22:49 |
Fixer |
so that people will actually want to use them |
| 22:50 |
paramat |
yeah bronze has issues, we can address those soon |
| 22:50 |
paramat |
some return for being more difficult to create than steel |
| 22:50 |
Fixer |
first i was thinking about 2x durability, but it turns out IRL it is not durable, so it is bad idea |
| 22:50 |
Fixer |
my next idea is silk touch analogue |
| 22:51 |
VanessaE |
Fixer: heard of it, what does it do? |
| 22:51 |
Fixer |
bug with opening door with a slab is fixed |
| 22:52 |
Fixer |
VanessaE: it can pick up blocks like stone without converting it to cobblestone, in mt you can pick up stone_with_ore without converting it to ore |
| 22:52 |
VanessaE |
oh ok. |
| 22:52 |
VanessaE |
I think maptools has a pick like that. |
| 22:52 |
VanessaE |
a variant of the admin pick |
| 22:54 |
Fixer |
VanessaE: MC wiki says it better "Mined blocks drop themselves instead of the usual items." |
| 22:54 |
VanessaE |
Fixer: well that's trivial to do in MT |
| 22:55 |
VanessaE |
and I'm certain I've seen a tool somewhere that did that |
| 23:11 |
celeron55 |
>[celeron55] told me, weeks ago, that the core devs have demoted him to figurehead |
| 23:11 |
celeron55 |
i'd just like to note that i haven't said that; maybe if you really bend some words over but not really |
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rubenwardy |
that's bollocks, imo |
| 23:12 |
celeron55 |
(or even if i had, it really doesn't matter) |
| 23:14 |
celeron55 |
(also about the trademark and whatnot, but none of that matters for OC if he loses the trust of people like that) |
| 23:26 |
cheapie |
What's with all the [off]? There aren't any MT servers in here, are there? |
| 23:44 |
celeron55 |
there are a bunch of weird members in the launchpad "Minetest Developers" team; i switched one administrator that hasn't done anything in a long time to be just a regular member |
| 23:45 |
cheapie |
By the way, Lintian reports some spelling errors: https://lintian.debian.org/full/pkg-games-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org.html#minetest |
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celeron55 |
"The package has a debian/watch file, but the last attempt to use it for checking for newer upstream versions failed with an error:" |
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celeron55 |
that's not a good thing in the debian package |
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