Time  Nick        Message
00:13 millersman  ah, sorry, thought i closed the tab... nevertheless have i created #4839
00:13 ShadowBot   https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4839 -- Support for recursive refining map generators
00:24 paramat     no problem, and thanks
02:15 paramat     game#1440
02:15 ShadowBot   https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/1440 -- Default/flowers: Improve papyrus and waterlily schematics by paramat
03:13 Hijiri      is there anything holding back #4421 from getting approvals?
03:13 ShadowBot   https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4421 -- Expose getPointedThing() as RaycastState by juhdanad
03:42 paramat     dev busyness, as usual
03:44 paramat     some of our leaf textures are still indexed, will convert these back to RGBA
03:55 paramat     game#1441
03:55 ShadowBot   https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/1441 -- Default: Convert remaining indexed leaves to RGBA by paramat
04:21 Kulgan`     need a database to track the devs and contributors heheh
06:06 paramat     sofar i might merge some game PRs soon, is game#1441 ok for you?
06:06 ShadowBot   https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/1441 -- Default: Convert remaining indexed leaves to RGBA by paramat
06:09 sofar       sure, yes, it's fine
06:16 paramat     good. i'll merge games 1437 1438 1439 1440 1441 heh, i can count
06:27 paramat     will merge in a moment
06:39 paramat     merging ..
06:45 paramat     done
06:46 paramat     i just passed 400 commits total
07:01 paramat     game#1442
07:01 ShadowBot   https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/1442 -- Snappy group: Remove beds and cactus from group by paramat
07:21 paramat     i worked out how to detect when mgv7 floatlands are enabled in flags, and how to get the set floatland level, so i may use these to select a tweaked set of biomes compatible with mgv7 floatlands, to avoid the mess underwater
13:56 zorman2000  Hi paramat, question about the new biomes: will they show on  valleys mapgen or just mgv7?
21:07 paramat     ~tell zorman2000 the new biomes just merged apply to all mapgens except mgv6
21:07 ShadowBot   paramat: O.K.
21:19 paramat     3 days to freeze
21:22 est31       https://youtu.be/9jK-NcRmVcw?t=12s
21:22 paramat     still no comments? :) #4829
21:22 ShadowBot   https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4829 -- Mapgen: Make mgv7 the default mapgen by paramat
21:23 VanessaE    paramat: I would suggest before freeze, you install HDX256 (or as high as your box can deal with), sign onto daconcepts.com:30000, and start running down any heavily-populated street.
21:23 VanessaE    you will...not like what you see your client doing (mesh gen lag has gotten kinda bad)
21:24 paramat     not surprising though if using a ridiculously high texture size
21:25 paramat     has it got worse recently?
21:26 VanessaE    considering there was at least one 1024 px texture pack out there at one time, I can't say I agree that 256 is "ridiculously high"
21:26 VanessaE    I can't really say how the lag has progressed over time, I just know it's pretty bad.
21:27 VanessaE    but when you're using a badass GPU, well...you kinda expect it to perform. :)
21:27 VanessaE    anyway, go see how it behaves
21:28 est31       paramat: added comment
21:28 paramat     sorry, i'm too busy, it's not a priority at the moment
21:29 VanessaE    ...
21:29 VanessaE    just fyi, you could have already done it. :P
21:31 paramat     ok, i also don't want to :)
21:32 VanessaE    ...
21:34 VanessaE    humor me.
21:53 paramat     well (grabs the microphone and walks on stage) if it isn't a recent regression, and since it's not surprising when using stupidly high-res textures in a complex area, it's hardly a priority, and i am working full time until freeze on essential things
21:57 VanessaE    just go try it.  you'll find it doesn't take a particularly complex terrain (complex just makes it more visible), and 256 px is NOT "stupidly high-res".
22:02 PR4061works oh, 180mb download, oh well, i will look
22:03 sfan5       paramat: v7 caves seem boring
22:04 sfan5       also isn't active_block_range = 2 a little small?
22:04 PR4061works they are kinda repetitive :)
22:11 paramat     i find mgv6 caves boring
22:12 paramat     all cylindrical, 3D noise creates a much wider variety of forms
22:13 paramat     mgv6 caves are just as repetitive
22:13 paramat     (as far as pseudorandom and noise can be repetitive)
22:14 sfan5       caves are not an art project
22:14 sfan5       they should be nice places to explore
22:15 paramat     3D noise is a much more interesting structure
22:16 paramat     most mgv6 caves are bent cylinders that stop at mapchunk borders, the 3D noise tunnels actually travel through multiple chunks
22:17 paramat     they're continuous over large scales
22:27 paramat     in my in-dev core mapgen i'm using 3 3D noises for tunnels to create a more complex structure with more intersections. this could be used but 3D noise is intensive, using 2 for tunnels is already fairly extreme
22:51 octacian    So, if I submitted a PR that introduced an option allowing players to lay on beds in daytime but not actually sleep, assuming it was well written, is there any chance that it would be merged? (I'm asking the opinions of core devs on such a feature)
22:53 sfan5       someone will review it eventually
22:53 octacian    specifically, before feature freeze. more specifically, should I bother trying to make time to work on before?
22:56 octacian    hmm nvm. We'll just see how it goes. It honestly doesn't really matter if it got in before freeze anyways.