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| 00:05 |
paramat |
will merge 4352 4554 4614 4636 in a moment |
| 00:19 |
paramat |
now merging |
| 00:24 |
paramat |
merged but #4636 did not apply |
| 00:24 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4636 -- Trim whitespaces from the input of the `/privs` command. by red-001 |
| 01:01 |
paramat |
game#1332 sofar |
| 01:01 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/1332 -- Default: Fix 'leaves simple', 'jungleleaves simple' textures by paramat |
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Foghrye4_ |
Hi, nrzkt! |
| 06:42 |
nrzkt |
hi |
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| 07:15 |
red-001 |
rebased 4636 so it can be merged when someone gets around to it |
| 07:18 |
kaeza |
that patch introduces a few unnecessary changes |
| 07:19 |
kaeza |
the diff should be just +param = param:trim() |
| 07:27 |
red-001 |
It's mostly to make the code more readable |
| 07:28 |
red-001 |
overwriting param seemed a bit confusing |
| 07:31 |
celeron55 |
it's fine, but imo the commit message could mention the unconfusement of the code too |
| 07:31 |
celeron55 |
not that this really matters at all |
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celeron55 |
just a good habit |
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red-001 |
could someone review #4472 |
| 16:25 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4472 -- Make serverlist searchable. by red-001 |
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| 16:33 |
Megaf |
needs rebase |
| 16:33 |
Megaf |
red-001: ^ |
| 16:35 |
red-001 |
ok |
| 16:36 |
Megaf |
I just have no idea how to do that tho |
| 16:39 |
red-001 |
do what? |
| 16:42 |
nrzkt |
no need to rebase red-001 it's mergeable |
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| 16:43 |
Megaf |
nrzkt: why you say so? Bacause github isnt complaining? |
| 16:44 |
nrzkt |
exactly |
| 16:45 |
* Megaf |
will try with git clone --depth=1 https://www.github.com/minetest/minetest && cd minetest && wget https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/4472.patch && git apply 4472.patch |
| 16:45 |
Megaf |
nope, patch fails to apply ;) |
| 16:45 |
Megaf |
maybe the webinterface can do some trickery to overcome that |
| 16:46 |
Megaf |
something to do with white spaces |
| 16:47 |
nrzkt |
we can rebase with web interface in fact |
| 16:47 |
nrzkt |
not everything but working things |
| 16:55 |
T4im |
Megaf: applying a patch != mergin or rebasing |
| 16:56 |
Megaf |
Are we going to start this again? Really? |
| 16:56 |
Megaf |
Can you point me to where I said that path is the same thing of merge or rebase? |
| 16:57 |
T4im |
start what again? i was just reminding you, as you seem to have forgotten it |
| 16:58 |
T4im |
nrzkt was pointing out it's mergable, and you were questioning it, again |
| 16:58 |
T4im |
it is, because github sais so, yes |
| 16:58 |
Megaf |
I'm sure Github does some trickery to resolve little incompatibilities |
| 16:58 |
T4im |
no, it just does a simple merge |
| 16:58 |
T4im |
or could do one |
| 16:59 |
T4im |
not being able to apply a patch does not mean it's not mergable, that's why i was pointing that out, again |
| 17:13 |
T4im |
the other thing i should remind you again is, that you need more history; without git has no chance applying against a historic commit anyway |
| 17:13 |
T4im |
the patch applies just fine here |
| 17:13 |
T4im |
if you ignore the trailing whitespace warnings anyway |
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| 18:10 |
red-001 |
Megaf I rebased the branch |
| 18:10 |
red-001 |
You can test if it works now |
| 18:43 |
Megaf |
red-001: sure, just a sec please |
| 18:45 |
Megaf |
red-001: maybe in this case I'm indeed mistaken |
| 18:45 |
Megaf |
well, there is no conflict per see, just a complain about white spaces |
| 18:46 |
red-001 |
does the search work correctly? |
| 18:46 |
Megaf |
I dont know what this means http://git.megaf.info/Megaf/GitPaste/raw/master/git%20apply |
| 18:47 |
Megaf |
building |
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| 18:49 |
T4im |
just, that it found whitespace issues; you can ignore that though "By default, the command outputs warning messages but applies the patch." |
| 18:50 |
T4im |
red-001 could clean up the whitespaces though |
| 18:52 |
red-001 |
whitespace issues as in trailing whitespaces? |
| 18:52 |
T4im |
yea |
| 18:52 |
T4im |
git apply nags about though |
| 18:52 |
T4im |
those* |
| 18:53 |
red-001 |
why? |
| 18:53 |
red-001 |
why is it a problem for git? |
| 18:53 |
T4im |
isn't really; it just defaults to warn about them |
| 18:53 |
red-001 |
werid |
| 18:54 |
T4im |
well; maybe to keep patches smaller, by removing unnecessary whitespace additions? |
| 18:54 |
red-001 |
will fix them as soon as I'm finished some code I'm working on |
| 18:54 |
T4im |
one can deactivate that, with --whitespace=nowarn, Megaf ^^ |
| 18:54 |
Megaf |
ok |
| 18:54 |
Megaf |
red-001: still building here |
| 18:55 |
Megaf |
it will take a while |
| 18:55 |
Megaf |
long while |
| 18:55 |
red-001 |
well you don't really need to rebuild to test it |
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| 18:55 |
red-001 |
the c++ code is like 3 lines long |
| 18:56 |
red-001 |
2 of which is a unit test |
| 19:00 |
T4im |
that's an excellent test to code ratio |
| 19:01 |
Megaf |
red-001: I had more changes to change |
| 19:01 |
Megaf |
my snapshot was outdated |
| 19:01 |
Megaf |
and I changed other stuff myself too |
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| 19:16 |
Megaf |
red-001: :+1: by me |
| 19:16 |
Megaf |
:) |
| 19:19 |
Megaf |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/4472#issuecomment-254067713 |
| 19:20 |
Megaf |
sfan5: nore: If you are there and codewise #4472 is ok you can merge it. I have patched here and tested. Runs fine. |
| 19:20 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4472 -- Make serverlist searchable. by red-001 |
| 19:28 |
red-001 |
would #4642 be useful? |
| 19:28 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4642 -- Allow the join/leave message to be overridden by mods. by red-001 |
| 19:33 |
red-001 |
#4636 can be merged |
| 19:33 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4636 -- Trim whitespaces from the input of the `/privs` command. by red-001 |
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| 20:05 |
garywhite |
Um I think this would probably go to this channel so: If I were to make an operating system that is free under CC BY-SA 4.0 for the main purpose of being used by MT devs and server owners would it be legal to do so with including MT under its LGPL license? |
| 20:07 |
garywhite |
note: I am putting the notice for MT's LGPL license under the initial EULA |
| 20:08 |
red-001 |
ask in ##law ? |
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| 20:09 |
garywhite |
Well, i figured that since this is the Minetest developer channel, the devs hold the license, so I thought this would be the best place |
| 20:14 |
red-001 |
you should be ok |
| 20:15 |
garywhite |
ok |
| 20:18 |
Megaf |
anydev here whilling to help me build minetest for ARM and GL ES on Linux? |
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| 20:21 |
red-001 |
how similar is opengl es to normal opengl? |
| 20:21 |
red-001 |
paramat I rebased 4636 |
| 20:22 |
paramat |
ShadowNinja, is it possible you could complete #4530 ? looks like gcu will not finish it |
| 20:22 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4530 -- Fix superflous shader setting updates by gregorycu |
| 20:22 |
paramat |
yeah |
| 20:28 |
paramat |
nore sfan5 sofar how about we remove vessels from mtgame? |
| 20:28 |
sfan5 |
i agree that they are kinda useless |
| 20:28 |
sfan5 |
but why |
| 20:29 |
paramat |
less to maintain :] |
| 20:30 |
kaeza |
they make nice decoration |
| 20:30 |
paramat |
could be moved to mt-mods repo |
| 20:31 |
paramat |
yeah, but more of a decor mod thing. they seem specialised compared to other mtgame mods |
| 20:32 |
everamzah |
books and bookshelves, too, then? i mean, where do you draw the line? |
| 20:32 |
red-001 |
yeah vessels are useless |
| 20:32 |
kaeza |
I'd say if it works, don't touch it |
| 20:32 |
red-001 |
they don't even look nice |
| 20:32 |
kaeza |
or has vessels caused any problem as of late? |
| 20:33 |
red-001 |
maybe someone could add meshes to vessels? |
| 20:34 |
everamzah |
it's probably not advantageous to remove what little decor there is. |
| 20:34 |
T4im |
don't forget, that they are used probably a lot as craf items; especially for food mods |
| 20:34 |
paramat |
hmm |
| 20:34 |
T4im |
not *just* as décor |
| 20:38 |
paramat |
game#1332 might merge this later, fairly trivial |
| 20:38 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/1332 -- Default: Fix 'leaves simple', 'jungleleaves simple' textures by paramat |
| 20:41 |
T4im |
it's that conflict of interest again, between a minetest game and a minetest base game, isn't it? :) |
| 20:43 |
T4im |
red-001: homedecor actually overrides vessels to replace them with meshes |
| 20:44 |
red-001 |
whats the license for homedecor? |
| 20:44 |
T4im |
well, the homedecor_3d_extras mod in the pack is apparently lgpl |
| 20:44 |
red-001 |
so it could be merged? |
| 20:45 |
T4im |
the assets might be what-the-cobble public license |
| 20:45 |
T4im |
best to ask vanessae |
| 20:46 |
T4im |
or kilbith perhaps |
| 20:46 |
red-001 |
is that license related to another one with a similar name? |
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* T4im |
is just minetest minting the language |
| 20:47 |
red-001 |
I see |
| 20:47 |
red-001 |
I doubt that would be the worst thing in the logs |
| 20:48 |
red-001 |
yeah it's WT*PL |
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red-001 |
will make PR |
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T4im |
you should still ask |
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red-001 |
!seen VanessaE |
| 20:54 |
ShadowBot |
red-001: I saw VanessaE in #minetest-dev 9 weeks, 6 days, 2 hours, 1 minute, and 8 seconds ago saying "yeah, it's been around for a while. My Creative server also has this problem, but on that one, I can't be sure if the seed has/hasn't changed at some point. with the one I showed you, I'm 100% certain." |
| 20:55 |
garywhite |
I can get VanessaE for you she's usually idle on her server |
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red-001 |
garywhite could you ask her if it's ok to use the wtfpl models and textures from homedecor_3d_extras in mt_game? |
| 20:58 |
garywhite |
I actually just pinged her and asked her if she could come on #minetest-dev cause you were asking about a mod |
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paramat |
do we really want meshes for vessels? plantlike is fine |
| 21:00 |
paramat |
otherewise we would have to start using meshes for almost everything, mushrooms etc |
| 21:00 |
red-001 |
paramat even torchs look better with plantlike then vessels |
| 21:01 |
paramat |
nevermind, mushrooms look weird as plantlike too |
| 21:01 |
red-001 |
sl |
| 21:01 |
red-001 |
so plantlike only looks good with grass? |
| 21:01 |
paramat |
i don't think it's worth the effort |
| 21:01 |
T4im |
garywhite: i don't think you're gonna get her in here; she gave up on -dev after several issues were ignored for several years without attempt of a fix (likely while a lot of unimportant things took precedence) |
| 21:02 |
garywhite |
ok, i'll ask her |
| 21:02 |
red-001 |
paramat adding some models that are already made isn't complicated |
| 21:02 |
garywhite |
So wait you want to add homedecor_3d_extras into minetest_game? |
| 21:02 |
paramat |
sure, but it's inconsistent fanciness |
| 21:03 |
T4im |
that's the dilemma, hm? looks bad now, doesn't fit the MTG style with those meshes |
| 21:04 |
T4im |
perhaps different - less fancy - models? |
| 21:05 |
paramat |
my intention with this discussion was to recommend not bothering with vessels, i don't want to cause time to be spent on them :] |
| 21:05 |
T4im |
ya, you're probably right with that |
| 21:05 |
paramat |
any mesh is fancy |
| 21:06 |
paramat |
so perhaps best we just leave it in but not dev it |
| 21:06 |
red-001 |
drinking glass looks plain awful |
| 21:06 |
garywhite |
Vanessa saw the log and said "Use whatever assets you want from homedecor. I don't care." |
| 21:09 |
kaeza |
paramat, always have this in mind: https://xkcd.com/1172/ |
| 21:09 |
T4im |
:D |
| 21:12 |
red-001 |
well it would be best imo to remove vessels or at least remove the drinking glass |
| 21:12 |
red-001 |
but thats not going to happen anytime soon |
| 21:12 |
paramat |
we could, it's a case of disruption |
| 21:14 |
T4im |
there is the option of "downgrading" the vessel nodes to vessel craft items? |
| 21:15 |
T4im |
homedecor can still override them to be decor |
| 21:15 |
red-001 |
T4im what would you do with the nodes that are placed? |
| 21:16 |
T4im |
well, you got that same problem when removing vessels completely |
| 21:17 |
red-001 |
replace them with air? |
| 21:17 |
paramat |
we would have to notify everyone to add the vessels mod as an independent mod |
| 21:17 |
T4im |
well with a downgrade homedecor users would not have to act, except perhaps update homedecor if some changes might be needed |
| 21:19 |
T4im |
but well; as you say; probably not worth dealing with the trouble, if there is no real need to act |
| 21:21 |
red-001 |
how do I make a mesh larger? |
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ShadowNinja |
paramat: Due to other responsibilities I don't really have the time for much MT stuff ATM. |
| 21:54 |
paramat |
ok |
| 21:56 |
garywhite |
This is for devs and server owners: My new system made just for MT https://sites.google.com/site/whitessoftware/ |
| 22:10 |
red-001 |
#1333 |
| 22:10 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1333 -- Remove useless statbar protection by BlockMen |
| 22:10 |
red-001 |
I meant game#1333 |
| 22:10 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/1333 -- Vessels: Use modified models and textures from homedecor by @VanessaE by red-001 |
| 22:25 |
Megaf |
so, what do you think is faster to build minetestserver |
| 22:26 |
Megaf |
4 ARM threads, GCC4, at 1 GHz, with a 2 MB/s storage. Or. 2 amd64 threads at 1,3GHz, GCC 6 with 400 MB/s storage? |
| 22:26 |
Megaf |
place your bets |
| 22:30 |
Megaf |
RPi got to 100% when AMD64 was still at 97% |
| 22:30 |
Megaf |
BUT, it has slower storage. AMD64 managed to catch up to 100%. Soon after the AMD64 finished due to it's amazing fast storage. But! Raspberry Pi finished linking ONE SECOND before the AMD64 |
| 22:31 |
Megaf |
Interesting, the ARM binary is 2672 KB and the AMD64 binary is 3156 |
| 22:48 |
dzho |
ldd |
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sofar |
so far so good. Had several rail carts run for 24hrs straight now (using all the rails and up and down stuff as well). |
| 23:51 |
paramat |
very much appreciated |
| 23:51 |
T4im |
what did you test with a long-term carting? :D |
| 23:51 |
T4im |
longtime* |
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