Time  Nick      Message
01:52 est31     paramat, you know lua, can you review  #4366
01:52 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4366 -- Move generation from settingtypes and make it a bit simpler to read. by t4im
03:25 paramat   merging game#1227 game#1255 in a moment
03:25 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/1227 -- fence inventory_image touchup by pithydon
03:25 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/1255 -- Fire: Use 'enable fire' setting instead of 'disable fire' by paramat
03:31 paramat   merging
03:36 paramat   complete!
17:48 paramat   nore sfan5 sofar any comments on game#361 ? has 3 -1s so could possibly be closed
17:48 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/361 -- Allow defining burntime via the fuel group by PilzAdam
17:55 paramat   looks like we're going with MIT license, unless there are objections
17:56 Krock     a strawpoll wouldn't be bad in that case. I have no plans which license is more popular for players
17:56 Krock     (or what they prefer)
17:58 paramat   well i think it's enough for devs to agree, it's not really down to players
18:00 * paramat doesn't believe in Minetest community democracy =}
18:00 Krock     for modders it could be handier to not include a license and copyright (like what's required in MIT)
18:00 Krock     so there can't be any issues with the author
18:01 Calinou   GitHub and others can add the license for you… it's very easy to do
18:01 paramat   #4457 ? simple and obvious PR
18:02 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4457 -- Camera: Allow up to double speed view/hand bobbing by paramat
18:02 Krock     ^ you're stealing Calinou's commit but the change is ok
18:03 Krock     Calinou, now I see. I haven't noticed that button there before
18:03 Krock     thank for pointing out :)
18:03 Krock     +s
18:03 Calinou   looks good to me, paramat
18:04 Krock     there's not much you can do wrong with a one-liner. Looks good here too
18:09 paramat   yes sorry the original wasn't going anywhere and i consider it a good idea
18:11 paramat   and it needed rebasing, i'll mention you in the commit message
18:11 Krock     when merging a patch and using amend it will keep the original author
18:11 Krock     even in a new pull request in your repo
18:12 Krock     rebasing other's pulls and keeping their changes and author data. Just like what I did with obneq's fix for the row tiling issue
18:13 paramat   the rebasing is tricky though
18:15 Krock     if there aren't many lines just redo the changes manually and set the author ;P
18:15 Krock     but that's trivial
18:16 paramat   i'll try that
18:17 Krock     it won't require an email when the person already commited to the project before
18:28 paramat   ok
20:16 OldCoder
20:16 OldCoder  Update: Exploration player has explained that that fork does not allow players to select a nick
20:17 OldCoder  It remains name plus 4 digits. A mod will be released to ban them. Announcing here to invite discussion in -project.
20:18 OldCoder  For those who do not know, there are two MT-like Exploration apps. One is a fork of MultiCraft. It was responsible for the Sadies.
20:18 OldCoder
20:34 est31     OldCoder, we might not be able to ban the usage of minetest code, but the minetest server list is a service ran by us
20:35 est31     and this service can get TOS set
20:35 est31     and in the TOS we can list things like
20:35 est31     * must give the player the ability to chose a nick name
20:35 est31     * use your own unique user agent for your app
20:35 est31     etc
20:36 Krock     * follow the TOS and don't be an ass or you will be banned from the server list
20:37 est31     I just dont know how to enforce the TOS
20:38 est31     e.g. can you take down an app from google play store because it violates a network service
20:38 est31     no idea...
20:41 OldCoder  est31, sfan5 is on top of it. And yes actually we may be able to use your idea.
20:41 OldCoder  Discussion is more for #minetest-project
20:41 OldCoder  Interesting; does Google have rules about abusive apps
20:41 OldCoder  as well as copyright issues?
20:42 OldCoder  I will announce, briefly, here a mod that will ban those players with exemptions if you wish
20:42 OldCoder  I have it already; see #minetest and -project for periodic announcements
20:52 sfan5     <OldCoder> [...] A mod will be released to ban them.
20:52 sfan5     to be exact
20:52 sfan5     as a test-run server-side changed of the server list were already done
20:52 sfan5     changes*
20:53 est31     as long as it doesn't become a story like https://adblockplus.org/blog/ping-pong-with-facebook
20:53 est31     :)
20:57 OldCoder  sfan5, est31's idea is interesting... ask Google to ban based on misuse of services
20:57 sfan5     i doubt google will do that
20:57 OldCoder  Well, we still have one go-round to ban based on... what, again?
20:57 OldCoder  You feel attribution is an issue for LGPL?
20:58 OldCoder  Talk in -project
20:58 OldCoder  Also fix MinetestBot
20:58 OldCoder  PM est31 fordetails
21:00 sfan5     OldCoder: the thing is that "misusing" the server list isn't part of LGPL
21:02 OldCoder  sfan5, what is the basis you used before?
21:02 sfan5     copying minetests code without mentioning LGPL or where to get the source code
21:03 OldCoder  Right
21:03 OldCoder  LGPL requires that?
21:03 OldCoder  So, let's ban Exploration (the MultiCraft variation one)
21:04 sfan5     it does require that
21:05 OldCoder  So, let's ban Exploration (the MultiCraft variation one)
21:05 sfan5     you can send a DMCA yes
21:06 OldCoder  Started this 2 weeks ago but picked wrong Exploration :-)
21:06 OldCoder  Author of 2nd one wants to ban 1st one for using name