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IRC log for #minetest-dev, 2016-08-20

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01:52 est31 paramat, you know lua, can you review  #4366
01:52 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4366 -- Move generation from settingtypes and make it a bit simpler to read. by t4im
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03:25 paramat merging game#1227 game#1255 in a moment
03:25 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest​/minetest_game/issues/1227 -- fence inventory_image touchup by pithydon
03:25 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest​/minetest_game/issues/1255 -- Fire: Use 'enable fire' setting instead of 'disable fire' by paramat
03:31 paramat merging
03:36 paramat complete!
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17:48 paramat nore sfan5 sofar any comments on game#361 ? has 3 -1s so could possibly be closed
17:48 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetes​t/minetest_game/issues/361 -- Allow defining burntime via the fuel group by PilzAdam
17:55 paramat looks like we're going with MIT license, unless there are objections
17:56 Krock a strawpoll wouldn't be bad in that case. I have no plans which license is more popular for players
17:56 Krock (or what they prefer)
17:58 paramat well i think it's enough for devs to agree, it's not really down to players
18:00 * paramat doesn't believe in Minetest community democracy =}
18:00 Krock for modders it could be handier to not include a license and copyright (like what's required in MIT)
18:00 Krock so there can't be any issues with the author
18:01 Calinou GitHub and others can add the license for you… it's very easy to do
18:01 paramat #4457 ? simple and obvious PR
18:02 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4457 -- Camera: Allow up to double speed view/hand bobbing by paramat
18:02 Krock ^ you're stealing Calinou's commit but the change is ok
18:03 Krock Calinou, now I see. I haven't noticed that button there before
18:03 Krock thank for pointing out :)
18:03 Krock +s
18:03 Calinou looks good to me, paramat
18:04 Krock there's not much you can do wrong with a one-liner. Looks good here too
18:09 paramat yes sorry the original wasn't going anywhere and i consider it a good idea
18:11 paramat and it needed rebasing, i'll mention you in the commit message
18:11 Krock when merging a patch and using amend it will keep the original author
18:11 Krock even in a new pull request in your repo
18:12 Krock rebasing other's pulls and keeping their changes and author data. Just like what I did with obneq's fix for the row tiling issue
18:13 paramat the rebasing is tricky though
18:15 Krock if there aren't many lines just redo the changes manually and set the author ;P
18:15 Krock but that's trivial
18:16 paramat i'll try that
18:17 Krock it won't require an email when the person already commited to the project before
18:28 paramat ok
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20:16 OldCoder Update: Exploration player has explained that that fork does not allow players to select a nick
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20:17 OldCoder It remains name plus 4 digits. A mod will be released to ban them. Announcing here to invite discussion in -project.
20:18 OldCoder For those who do not know, there are two MT-like Exploration apps. One is a fork of MultiCraft. It was responsible for the Sadies.
20:18 OldCoder
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20:34 est31 OldCoder, we might not be able to ban the usage of minetest code, but the minetest server list is a service ran by us
20:35 est31 and this service can get TOS set
20:35 est31 and in the TOS we can list things like
20:35 est31 * must give the player the ability to chose a nick name
20:35 est31 * use your own unique user agent for your app
20:35 est31 etc
20:36 Krock * follow the TOS and don't be an ass or you will be banned from the server list
20:37 est31 I just dont know how to enforce the TOS
20:38 est31 e.g. can you take down an app from google play store because it violates a network service
20:38 est31 no idea...
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20:41 OldCoder est31, sfan5 is on top of it. And yes actually we may be able to use your idea.
20:41 OldCoder Discussion is more for #minetest-project
20:41 OldCoder Interesting; does Google have rules about abusive apps
20:41 OldCoder as well as copyright issues?
20:42 OldCoder I will announce, briefly, here a mod that will ban those players with exemptions if you wish
20:42 OldCoder I have it already; see #minetest and -project for periodic announcements
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20:52 sfan5 <OldCoder> [...] A mod will be released to ban them.
20:52 sfan5 to be exact
20:52 sfan5 as a test-run server-side changed of the server list were already done
20:52 sfan5 changes*
20:53 est31 as long as it doesn't become a story like https://adblockplus.org/bl​og/ping-pong-with-facebook
20:53 est31 :)
20:57 OldCoder sfan5, est31's idea is interesting... ask Google to ban based on misuse of services
20:57 sfan5 i doubt google will do that
20:57 OldCoder Well, we still have one go-round to ban based on... what, again?
20:57 OldCoder You feel attribution is an issue for LGPL?
20:58 OldCoder Talk in -project
20:58 OldCoder Also fix MinetestBot
20:58 OldCoder PM est31 fordetails
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21:00 sfan5 OldCoder: the thing is that "misusing" the server list isn't part of LGPL
21:02 OldCoder sfan5, what is the basis you used before?
21:02 sfan5 copying minetests code without mentioning LGPL or where to get the source code
21:03 OldCoder Right
21:03 OldCoder LGPL requires that?
21:03 OldCoder So, let's ban Exploration (the MultiCraft variation one)
21:04 sfan5 it does require that
21:05 OldCoder So, let's ban Exploration (the MultiCraft variation one)
21:05 sfan5 you can send a DMCA yes
21:06 OldCoder Started this 2 weeks ago but picked wrong Exploration :-)
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21:06 OldCoder Author of 2nd one wants to ban 1st one for using name
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