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IRC log for #minetest-dev, 2016-04-18

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00:47 paramat now merging game#1042 game#1043
00:48 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest​/minetest_game/issues/1042 -- Character: Fix boat leg wobble. by sofar
00:48 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest​/minetest_game/issues/1043 -- Default: Create 'grass', 'dry_grass' groups, use in dirt conversion ABM by paramat
00:55 paramat merged
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03:02 Wayward_One #4005
03:02 Wayward_One O.o
03:02 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4005 -- Minetest.apk build failure
03:03 paramat hi hmmmm please could you review #4002 sometime?
03:03 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4002 -- Mgv7: Combine mountain terrain generation with base terrain generation by paramat
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03:34 sofar paramat: I have one more fun idea for TNT...
03:34 sofar *tests*
03:34 paramat good
03:36 sofar actually, it won't work
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03:36 sofar maybe
03:36 sofar hmmm
03:44 sofar paramat: basically, making tnt_burning a falling node
03:52 paramat sounds difficult
03:53 sofar it's just a group setting
03:53 sofar groups = {falling_node = 1},
04:03 Wayward_One I believe one of the nuke mods does that
04:04 sofar at one point I'll make it an entity instead
04:04 sofar I like slow, incremental improvements :)
04:11 paramat freeze is probably within a week btw
04:11 paramat time to decide on what goes into release
04:12 paramat nothing too fancy should be added now
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14:29 * celeron55 announces possible maintenance downtime tomorrow around 5-9 UTC on all websites
14:29 * Krock reads and nods
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20:22 Topic for #minetest-dev is now Minetest core development and maintenance. No new date for feature freeze decided yet. Last release: 0.4.13, Aug 20 2015. Chit-chat goes to #minetest. Consider this instead of /msg celeron55. http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest-dev/ http://dev.minetest.net/
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20:23 Topic for #minetest-dev is now Minetest core development and maintenance. No new date for feature freeze decided yet. Last release: 0.4.13, Aug 20 2015. Chit-chat goes to #minetest. Consider this instead of /msg celeron55. http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest-dev/ http://dev.minetest.net/
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20:40 sfan5 useful fact:
20:40 sfan5 someone is monitoring my server (most likely because of servers.minetest.net) via nagios:
20:40 sfan5 82.218.221.220 - - [18/Apr/2016:20:37:34 +0000] "GET / HTTP/1.1" 200 1054 "-" "check_http/v1.5 (nagios-plugins 1.5)" "-"
20:42 sfan5 celeron55: ping
20:43 celeron55 pong
20:44 celeron55 no nagios in my logs, if that's what you're asking
20:44 sfan5 new IPs for servers.minetest.net:
20:44 sfan5 31.220.43.79
20:44 sfan5 2a01:6f0:ffff:da::6b49
20:45 celeron55 these replace the old ones, now?
20:45 sfan5 yes
20:45 sfan5 the old one is currently up and will most likely be for the next whatever few days
20:45 celeron55 done
20:45 sfan5 that was fast
20:46 sfan5 first request came in just now
20:46 celeron55 i like the UI of my current domain registrar
20:46 sfan5 which one is it?
20:46 celeron55 name.com
20:47 Calinou you're migrating minetest.net?
20:47 Calinou or just servers.minetest.net
20:47 sfan5 my vps
20:47 sfan5 which means just servers.
20:47 sfan5 got fed up with edis because of their horrible support
20:48 sfan5 oh and irc.minetest.ru
20:49 celeron55 is irc.minetest.ru now hosted by you?
20:49 sfan5 yes
20:49 celeron55 i wasn't even aware of that 8)
20:49 sfan5 xyz didn't (couldn't?) host it anymore
20:50 celeron55 i guess xyz got fed up with me being too lazy to take over that one
20:50 sfan5 i thought you knew already
20:50 sfan5 well now you know ;)
20:50 celeron55 can we start using irc.minetest.net as the primary domain for it?
20:51 celeron55 i'll set a cname from it to servers.minetest.net
20:51 celeron55 the .ru domain is probably not going to be around forever
20:51 sfan5 yes xyz told me that too
20:52 sfan5 it should be around until 2017 though
20:52 celeron55 well, irc.minetest.net points to your server now; you should add that vhost
20:53 sfan5 done
20:54 Topic for #minetest-dev is now Minetest core development and maintenance. No new date for feature freeze decided yet. Last release: 0.4.13, Aug 20 2015. Chit-chat goes to #minetest. Consider this instead of /msg celeron55. http://irc.minetest.net/minetest-dev/ http://dev.minetest.net/
20:54 celeron55 hopefully by 2017 nobody is linking to .ru anymore 8)
20:56 celeron55 tomorrow morning i have the fun task of upgrading my VPS from openbsd 5.7 to 5.9
20:57 Calinou cool, irc.minetest.net :)
20:57 Calinou we should get minete.st too :>
20:57 celeron55 i have finally prepared and tested a procedure for doing it, and it almost worked when i tested it on a local virtual machine onto which i cloned the production server
20:58 celeron55 it took like multiple days to prepare something that wouldn't likely fail catastrophically
20:58 sfan5 i think i'll just reinstall when the new LTS comes out
20:58 sfan5 easier
20:58 celeron55 what i'll do is almost a reinstall but not quite
21:00 celeron55 basically i'll remove all packages, then do the upgrades and then re-run an ansible script that installs and configures everything
21:01 celeron55 with some weird manual fixes for things that for some reason go wrong in that process 8)
21:02 sfan5 hooray letsencrypt still works
21:02 celeron55 it's less hassle than restoring everything that runs on the server from a backup because it runs like 15 distinct things
21:02 sfan5 (not that surprising considering that i moved from ubuntu 14.04 to ubuntu 14.04)
21:05 Calinou it'd be nice if minetest.net offered HTTPS :P
21:06 Calinou it's here, but not signed
21:06 Calinou there probably should be a redirect as well
21:08 sfan5 celeron55: you can delete meow.minetest.net btw
21:09 Fixer mese.flac?
21:11 celeron55 sfan5: ack
21:21 sofar letsencrypt is fantastic, folks
21:21 sofar use it if you can
21:22 Fixer okay
21:25 sfan5 i do already
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21:25 sfan5 servers.minetest.net ''unofficially'' supports HTTPS using letsencrypt
21:29 sofar excellent
21:30 Calinou sofar, don't remember to set up an auto-renewal script :p
21:30 Calinou don't forget*
21:30 Calinou lol, don't remember
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21:59 paramat nore ShadowNinja please could anyone review game#1040 game#1044 ?
21:59 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest​/minetest_game/issues/1040 -- Doors: Use LBM instead of ABM to convert doors. by sofar
21:59 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest​/minetest_game/issues/1044 -- Flowers: Make flower spread a public function to enable override by paramat
22:00 paramat also game#1029 is easy
22:00 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest​/minetest_game/issues/1029 -- Add: New Heart Texture by KevDoy
22:01 Calinou the new heart texture is quite better
22:02 sofar <3 ?
22:03 paramat the other game devs seem very absent :(
22:04 Calinou
22:06 paramat in fact all dev is quiet recently
22:08 Fixer except paramat
22:09 sofar paramat: you know, the longer you postpone releasing 0.4.14 the longer you postpone me being a core dev
22:09 sofar maybe that's why you're postponing ;)
22:11 Fixer that will be just two devs and lots of zombies
22:11 paramat gr :) i get blamed for the delay
22:11 sofar sounds like my kind of movie :D
22:11 paramat being release manager is tough
22:12 paramat anyway i'll merge game 1044 later as trivial
22:13 paramat perhaps 1040 also
22:13 paramat if other devs are absent i will have to start tking some initiative
22:14 celeron55 well you're doing an insane amount of work
22:14 * Fixer thinks about another zombie
22:15 celeron55 if i did a release, i really couldn't care less what features ended up in it; it would be a freeze for a week and hope for the best
22:16 celeron55 (not that people wouldn't appreciate extra work put in a release)
22:23 celeron55 it's going to literally be known as the "paramat release"
22:29 paramat i'm planning a 2 week freeze
22:32 paramat i actually have no income now so unfortunately i will soon be asking for donations :(
22:32 Fixer lol
22:36 Fixer current mood: zombies, unemployed, dead, celeron55
22:36 paramat heh
22:37 Fixer it is day 3 and I'm still "watching" that 40 min learn python movie
22:41 Fixer even with this much progress 0.4.14 will be a nice release
22:42 celeron55 i can pay paramat a few meals from my minetest donation reserve, but after that he'll have to find real work
22:42 paramat nah it's ok i have some savings
22:44 paramat i'll be asking for donations seperately in the forum, wouldn't want to divert anything from your donations account. thanks
22:46 celeron55 i do recommend people to ask for donations (or "monetary tips" or whatever happens to be legal to ask for in your country) if they're spending time on doing stuff
22:47 celeron55 it's not really fair for me to be the only one when all i'm really doing is hosting some websites or whatever
22:48 paramat i still have so many ideas for core mapgens i would like to contribute
22:48 Fixer more lakes, more variety within?
22:49 paramat the potential of MT is overwhelming, i feel it often
22:49 paramat mainly using vertical height
22:49 paramat stacked realms etc
22:49 paramat all that crazy stuff i do in my mapgen mods
22:49 paramat space mapgens
22:50 paramat space colonies
22:51 Fixer gravity is a problem
22:51 Fixer make planet like thing in space, and center of gravity in center of it
22:51 Fixer asteroid
22:51 paramat would be nice, but my ideas don't require that
22:53 paramat anyway, i'll put watershed in after release in basic form
22:54 paramat i'm starting on mgv8 and plan to experiment with a space mapgen to tackle the issues
22:54 paramat maybe a space subgame to go with it
22:55 paramat mgv8 is meant to be the replacement for mgv6, small scale and suitable for newbies
22:56 paramat but of course using the new biome APIs
23:00 Fixer what about that shadow y=63 curse?
23:00 paramat i'll tackle that during freeze
23:01 paramat not confident though
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