Time Nick Message 11:23 Zeno` #3985 11:23 ShadowBot Zeno`: Error: Delimiter not found in "HTTP Error 404: Not Found" 11:23 Zeno` oops, #3958 11:23 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/3958 -- Fix warnings from 01ae43c48009f816f4649fae2f7f6997452aa6cf by ssieb 11:23 Zeno` was discussed on IRC the other night and it's the same solution as I would have written 11:24 Zeno` if someone else can review also and commit that'd be great 11:59 sfan5 Zeno`: blit_with_interpolate_overlay removed because unused? 12:00 sfan5 in any case: looks good to me 12:03 nrzkt sfan5 clang report unused static function outside of classes 12:09 Zeno` actually, I'd probably prefer the blit_with_interpolate_overlay function to be simply ifdef'd away, but it's kind of debatable what the best course would be (I mean the code is still in the repo) 12:33 nore I found how to fix the die on login bug 12:33 nore I'm on my phone right now, so I can't test it 12:34 nore but it should be enough to set speed_f to zero when we return early from collisionMoveSimple 12:35 nore in the test that was added in the commit that broke it 12:36 nore if someone wants to test that, feel free, else I will do that tonight 12:50 est31 !tell hmmmm who gave the second approval for #3899 ? 12:50 ShadowBot est31: O.K. 12:50 est31 i hope its the right number of m's 12:52 rubenwardy https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/3949#issuecomment-205658992 12:52 rubenwardy #3899 12:52 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/3899 -- Add an option to colorize to respect the destination alpha by ssieb 12:54 est31 ~tell hmmmm who gave the second approval for #3899 ? (sorry if this message reaches you twice but !tell may be broken) 12:54 ShadowBot est31: O.K. 12:55 est31 I've asked him via github before, but he didn't seem to react 12:55 est31 i guess he doesn't read github notifications 13:06 nrzkt est31 nobody as it seems 13:07 nrzkt he commits because he wants to commit 13:22 foghrye4 In enviroment.cpp vertical collision damage is applied based on speed difference extracted from CollisionInfo. 13:22 rubenwardy shieettt 13:22 foghrye4 What? 13:22 rubenwardy net split 13:25 foghrye4 Anyway, in collision.cpp collisioninfo is updated only if all function is not return value early, therefore instant death on player joining to server cannot be caused by speed-related damage. Am i correct? 13:26 foghrye4 *whole 13:34 Zeno` Actually, if there was already one approval than hmmmm himself obviously made the second approval 13:35 Zeno` which is how it's always been 13:37 Zeno` Oh, I see 13:56 Zeno` #3940 ... I am on Windows at the moment but does the fix suggested by kahrl affect non-c++11 builds? If not I think it should be fixed since it's so simple 13:56 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/3940 -- testAtomicSemaphoreThread failures (C++11) 13:57 Zeno` It seems pretty reasonable to actually initialise it 14:09 Zeno` it may have been a gcc bug actually, but I don't think it should have been initialised to 0 even prior to c++11 14:09 Zeno` (I mean the compiler shouldn't have) 14:47 nore foghrye4: what happens is that speed increases, and player dies when the map finally loads 14:59 foghrye4 @nore a, ye, i can see that now. Enviroment.cpp at 2431. 15:08 rubenwardy #1075 15:08 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1075 -- Allow changing per-player FOV from Lua. by kaeza 16:12 sofar oh, I had never seen a github comment from Krock until now, or did he change his github name? 16:12 Krock sofar, my email changed 16:13 sofar ahh 16:13 Krock 6 commits in total.. they were all +/- trivial 16:14 Krock (Those with the old email) 16:14 sofar I'm like, who's this nice chap making sensible and positive comments in a decent tone? :) 16:14 Krock Heh yes.. my active period was short 16:35 sfan5 i feel like we need a "what people say" section on minetest.net 16:35 sfan5 we should put this there: https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/4dg0ca/why_the_free_and_open_minetest_not_microsofts/d1qreo1 16:39 Krock Nice idea! That's well known from the new movies, where they add quotes from newspapers 16:40 Krock So new players can see what others think about it 16:47 VanessaE I never knew there even WAS /r/minetest 16:48 VanessaE (mentioned in the other comments) 16:54 Calinou_ Krock, "An impressive and thrilling open source game" -New York Times 16:54 * Calinou_ runs 16:54 Krock Calinou_, serisously? o.0 16:54 Krock *seriously 16:56 Calinou_ Krock, was a joke :p 16:56 Krock Calinou_, but something like that is what we need 16:57 Krock if there's nothing - just include stuff from erdit 16:57 Krock *redit 16:58 sofar rss feed on the main page in MT? 16:58 sofar could be interesting 17:12 Fixer minetest does not even have a wikipedia page because some MC-nazies are blocking it :/ 17:13 VanessaE "not notable" :-/ 17:14 Fixer ****** 17:14 Krock Fixer, go and find a page about a person with less than 50 words :) 17:14 Fixer even small brogue game has its page but not minetest 17:14 Krock and ask them if that one is notable 17:20 Fixer and page is protected from recreation and needs contact with admins 17:25 sofar that's a #minetest-project topic 17:25 sofar non-core devs should track down reputable articles and rebuild it with the proper support and references. 17:25 VanessaE we tried before. 17:25 sofar it's been a long time 17:26 VanessaE no matter how well-written the article was and how many sources we found (a lot) it wasn't good enough. 17:26 Calinou_ they consider even regular Minetest players as Minetest developers 17:27 Calinou_ we need Selena Gomez to tweet about Minetest, that's all 17:27 sofar good idea 17:27 VanessaE get Bernie Sanders to tweet about it :) 17:28 VanessaE (you know, I think he actually *would*) 17:28 Fixer yeah, bias against minetest on wikipedia is strange 17:28 sofar it's percieved as a clone/ripoff/copy 17:29 sofar the bar is much higher then 17:29 Krock Also get a negative feedback from Kayne West 17:30 Fixer clone? any fps game is clone of every fps game, any rpg game is mostly clone of other rpg game %) 17:30 Fixer wth are they talking 17:30 Fixer it is not like it is a scam project 17:30 VanessaE well one can always try again to re-create the page 17:30 hmmmm if you've read about or seen the politics of wikipedia it'd really turn you off to it 17:30 VanessaE maybe sofar is right 17:30 sfan5 https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minetest ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 17:30 Fixer open source game that can be clone of everything really 17:31 Krock Aww.. I'd know such a good pun in a comic about clones but it doesn't work in english :< 17:31 hmmmm minetest is big enough to be an article, but select wikipedia moderators have decided to be biased against it 17:31 hmmmm i cannot have any respect for wikipedia 17:34 sfan5 VanessaE: "So... exactly what IP was stolen?" why are you feeding the trolls 17:35 VanessaE actually I was just trying to bait the bastard into making a bigger fool of himself :) 17:35 VanessaE no matter what answer he comes up with, it'll be wrong :) 17:36 Krock But... but... there are so many people on earth, it could be that someone has used my IP before!!! 17:39 hmmmm i still don't understand how minetest can be "good for teaching" 17:39 hmmmm what is this meme and why is it so often repeated? 17:39 hmmmm and then we get people on #minetest saying something to the effect of, "hi I'm trying to use minetest to teach my students and blah blah blah" 17:40 VanessaE didn't you know? it's open source, so it's automatically the best thing ever to teach with. 17:41 Fixer students in architecture or mining ops? 17:41 Fixer arts? 17:41 VanessaE I can see it being useful for teaching programming, particularly in practical skills. 17:41 sfan5 hmmmm: this is apparently very useful https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=14365 17:41 VanessaE do this --> this happens on screen, that sort of thing 17:41 sofar you can program a mod in minetest without compiling code and just a text editor 17:41 sfan5 i wrote it more as a PoC because it was talked about in some topic 17:41 sofar that's accessible... 17:41 hmmmm that's such silly stuff 17:42 Fixer ::)) 17:42 sfan5 modding is most likely what you want to teach though 17:42 hmmmm maybe.. probably not 17:42 hmmmm the modding api is NOT simple 17:42 hmmmm it might've been at some point in history but certainly not anymore 17:42 sfan5 do you want to teach elementary maths instead? :P 17:42 hmmmm i don't want to teach anything 17:42 Fixer hehe 17:43 Fixer kids are messed up anyway 17:44 Fixer Azad has letters mod, so you can put words and numbers with that mod 17:55 hmmmm i fail to see how any of those are any more fun or educational than a set of flash cards 18:01 Krock or the cheat game with a 36-cards deck :) 18:01 Fixer oh well, you can't even teach with a stick and one hand 18:02 Fixer can* 18:07 paramat hmmmm or anyone #3959 18:07 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/3959 -- Mapgen: Optimise cave noises and tunnel excavation by paramat 18:10 hmmmm paramat, what about your other PR you have open? 18:10 hmmmm the one marked WIP 18:11 hmmmm are you finished working on that one? 18:11 paramat not yet 18:17 Obani https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/3958 18:17 Obani two approvals ? 18:18 paramat yes 18:20 hmmmm i think the issue is more or less that people are too lazy to fetch the branch and merge it 18:22 celeron55 that's not an issue actually anymore 18:22 celeron55 press the "merge pull request" button and see 18:26 hmmmm ? 18:26 rubenwardy github can automatically squash and merge commits no 18:26 rubenwardy *now 18:27 rubenwardy no more "merge branch..." 18:27 rubenwardy commits 18:27 rubenwardy although it must be enabled by the owner of the repo 18:27 hmmmm doesn't it have to be set to do that? 18:27 rubenwardy there's a setting in the github setttings 18:31 rubenwardy on my server, items are taking ages to move, yet players seem to move ok 18:32 rubenwardy I took an item from a chest and put it into my inventory. It disappears from the chest, and doesn't reappear. I keep taking items, none appear in my inventory. When the chest is empty it disapears which shows that the server knows that you've taken items (chests disappear when empty) 18:33 rubenwardy about a minute later the items appear in the inventory 18:33 rubenwardy I recently pushed a commit which, every 10 seconds, sends 6*3 hud updates to each player 18:34 rubenwardy the packet counter records an average of about 10 per second 18:34 rubenwardy Every so often it goes to 25 18:35 rubenwardy Both the server and I have 100 Mbps connections. 18:36 rubenwardy !c 6*3*18 18:36 ShadowBot rubenwardy: math calc 18:36 rubenwardy !math calc 6*3*18 18:37 ShadowBot rubenwardy: 324 18:37 rubenwardy that's my answer, I guess. It must be filling up the buffers 18:49 celeron55 rubenwardy: there may have been some node metadata sending changes lately 18:49 celeron55 (i'm not sure if they have been merged yet) 18:50 celeron55 if they have been, they could be the reason 18:50 Fixer not yet merged i believe 18:50 rubenwardy my server is running b9068 18:50 rubenwardy Revert "Translated using Weblate (German)" 18:55 rubenwardy I wish there were more tools to see where the network is getting clogged up at 18:55 rubenwardy heh 19:02 paramat game#1014 is ready for review 19:02 ShadowBot paramat: Error: Delimiter not found in "Page is too big or the server took too much time to answer the request." 19:02 paramat yep github is slow 19:09 rubenwardy That's not funny 19:09 Obani Ban this ip 19:09 Obani wait 19:09 Obani it was voiced ? 19:09 Taoki It might be someone who's opening one of his computers 19:09 rubenwardy Sorry that Me Mati`1 19:51 sofar it's a good time to revoke his github privs, or check that it has 19:52 sofar nore: VanessaE: ShadowNinja: what about minetest-technic? 19:54 rubenwardy He's not a core dev in minetest 19:54 sofar it was a more general comment. he may have push privs to other peoples repos. 21:47 est31 hmmmm, seen my message? 21:47 est31 http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest-dev/2016-04-05#i_4575599 22:01 est31 about the wikipedia discussion: I'm afraid we must play with their terms 22:01 est31 we have to get newspapers / news websites that are large enough to feature minetest 22:01 est31 the best thing to get that happen is to write to them 22:02 est31 press releases when we do a new release 22:02 est31 etc 22:02 nrzkt est31, in fact a new release should be done before doing that. then release this 0.4.14 and stop waiting for god 22:04 jin_xi huh 22:05 est31 is there somebody who can do that 22:05 est31 write press releases? 22:07 nore https://github.com/minetest/minetest/compare/master...Ekdohibs:die_fix 22:07 nore github won't let me create a pull request :/ 22:10 nore #3965 22:10 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/3965 -- Fix #3955 by Ekdohibs 22:11 est31 Perhaps a nicer commit msg 22:11 est31 with the results of the discussion in 3955 22:11 nore est31: will do 22:11 nore Fixer: could you check it works please? 22:12 est31 you know, first line concise, second line empty, third line and following with text 22:14 nore est31: done :) 22:14 est31 did you push? 22:14 est31 ah 22:14 nore yep 22:14 est31 yeah got it 22:14 est31 +1 22:15 nore github is a bit slow though :/ 22:15 est31 nore, https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/3955#issuecomment-206006506 22:16 nore est31: replied to your comment 22:17 est31 not that its a bug and we are missing it :) 22:18 nore would be good if someone could check it works before merging though 22:18 * nore goes to bed 22:19 est31 bye 22:19 est31 and thanks for the fix 22:19 celeron55 what would the press release after 0.4.14's release even say? 22:22 celeron55 "we've been making this minetest thing for quite some years now and released a new version; it doesn't really do anything spectacular but here are one hundred tiny changes; don't ask for a mission statement or anything because that didn't really happen even while one person got a bit mad about it missing" 22:23 celeron55 i'm the best marketer, hands down 22:23 est31 :) 22:24 celeron55 the website traffic pretty much doubled today 22:25 rubenwardy from Linux reddit, you think? 22:25 est31 it was all the minetest subreddit 22:25 est31 what else 22:28 Fixer nore, i'm back 22:28 Hijiri what happened with wikipedia, minetest not notable enough? 22:28 Fixer i actually proud of 0.4.14 22:28 Fixer 'm 22:29 Fixer nore, check #3955? i will do it, need 30 min 22:29 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/3955 -- Death on login [commit with regression identified] 22:30 est31 http://pasteboard.co/2Odh3F2M.png 22:30 est31 nothing much has changed on github 22:31 Fixer i want to go back to HEAD, do i need git checkout HEAD? 22:31 est31 no 22:31 est31 that makes no sense 22:32 est31 except your working directory isn't clean 22:32 Fixer i'm at sep 26 2015 now, i need to go back to newest 22:32 est31 do git log 22:32 est31 ah to newest 22:32 est31 git checkout origin/master 22:32 est31 that's the newest 22:33 est31 (or upstream/master) 22:34 est31 ookay celeron55 you say when I press the "merge PR" button ,it won't create a merge commit? 22:34 est31 lets try it 22:34 celeron55 rubenwardy: i don't collect proper statistics to really say, but there are a lot of referer entries from that article and reddit 22:35 est31 somehow this UI is weird 22:35 Fixer ok, compile time 22:36 est31 ah nice 22:36 est31 it works https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/24b32ab09d1967866ddc092cadc6f6d678dac0c6 22:37 Fixer thanks for info 22:38 Fixer ugh 22:40 Fixer missed new commit by 1 minute 22:41 celeron55 rubenwardy: or, well, i mean, there are a lot of statistics from www.minetest.net; that one tells me that practically nobody came from reddit and everyone from ocsmag.com 22:41 celeron55 but in there it was only like a 50% increase 22:41 rubenwardy makes sense, as there were no links to minetest.net but there was in ocsmag.con 23:07 Fixer nore, fixes issue for me 23:09 est31 great 23:09 est31 then I'm merging the PR 23:09 est31 (nore's in bed) 23:10 Fixer i will play it locally to see if smth breaks 23:11 Fixer i doubt it breaks anything, nice that nore fixed it, this is horrible bug 23:12 Fixer O_O paramats v7 is sooo strange at times /O_O 23:14 Fixer never seen anything like this before: https://i.imgur.com/9WkNgWp.jpg 23:18 sofar yeah, it can get neat 23:54 Fixer oh damn 23:54 Fixer another possible light in caves bug :/ 23:54 Fixer https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/3964 23:55 Fixer can't reproduce yet