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IRC log for #minetest-dev, 2015-10-25

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04:46 hmmmm PTAL https://github.com/kwolekr/minetest/commit​/18e0f1f24fb78a228afa837c7358dcb3737b0d03
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04:47 hmmmm (note that this commit doesn't actually add any functionality; it's the piece of the threaded lua feature that's most vulnerable to merge conflicts)
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09:57 PilzAdam https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest/commi​t/6907c3e40a16d491fd0f7b224ba30a58e0777a24
09:58 hmmmm oops
09:59 hmmmm looks good to me I guess
10:00 PilzAdam I'll merge it in a few minutes then
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10:54 BlockMen can i merge #3209 ?
10:54 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/3209 -- Add option to disable backface culling for models by BlockMen
10:54 BlockMen *after adding documentation
11:00 VanessaE BlockMen: HybridDog makes a good point in there:  can something be added to allow backface culling to be selectively en/disabled for mesh nodes also?
11:00 VanessaE (it supposedly works if you use special_materials, but that option doesn't work for mesh nodes)
11:01 BlockMen VanessaE,  its optional and enabled by default, which mean it is only disabled when wanted
11:01 BlockMen thats why it says "add option" ;)
11:02 VanessaE hm, ok.  tried to read through the code but it didn't look like it was operating on mesh nodes.  rather, just CAOs
11:02 BlockMen oh, misread
11:02 BlockMen sry
11:03 VanessaE sorry, I meant "mesh nodes" as modders use the phrase :)
11:03 BlockMen umm...yes, it could i think . but how is that releated to this pull?
11:03 VanessaE i.e. stairs
11:03 VanessaE well I consider it related in that it's backface culling :)
11:04 BlockMen well, but complete different area, so nothing to be added in this pull. but make an issue for it if you think it is needed ;)
11:05 VanessaE meh
11:06 VanessaE well anyway, +1 if that fixes the issue :)
11:15 BlockMen added paramat to Developer group at forums and removed RBA and darkrose since they are not core members anymore
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11:53 VanessaE something really needs to be done about this crash-on-exit shit
11:53 VanessaE particularly crash-on-exit-to-menu -- often either MT just exits, or it hangs and has to be kill -9'd
11:54 nrzkt sfan5: http://servers.minetest.net/
11:54 nrzkt i think there is a problem, no ?
11:54 sfan5 indeed
12:11 BlockMen nrzkt, sfan5: #3209 ?
12:11 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/3209 -- Add option to disable backface culling for models by BlockMen
12:11 BlockMen can i merge it?
12:12 sfan5 yep
12:12 BlockMen thanks
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12:13 sfan5 nrzkt: ipv4 announcing went poof
12:14 VanessaE guess I should be glad my servers can do ipv6 also :P
12:14 nrzkt sfan5, ok
12:15 sfan5 i have no idea how this happend
12:15 sfan5 and restarting nginx & uwsgi does not fix it
12:15 nrzkt an IPv4 routing problem with the server provider ?
12:16 sfan5 GET /list works over IPv4
12:16 sfan5 GET /announce just causes nginx not to respond with anything at all
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15:15 PilzAdam est31, https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commi​t/6907c3e40a16d491fd0f7b224ba30a58e0777a24 run updatepo.sh again
15:16 est31 updatepo.sh is evil, it bloats the repo size
15:17 PilzAdam how much?
15:17 est31 don#t know
15:17 est31 lemme get an upper border for the size
15:17 PilzAdam this are 10 translation lines changed
15:18 est31 the problem aren't those lines
15:18 est31 the problem is that updatepo.sh is non-deterministically ordered
15:18 est31 idk what they've thought when they wrote it
15:19 est31 you run updatepo.sh
15:19 est31 you commit
15:19 est31 you run it again
15:19 est31 and volia, a huge diff is there!
15:19 est31 reordering everything
15:20 est31 okay, the diff is 201k, if you gzip its 31k
15:21 est31 so there is an xgettext command to somehow sort
15:21 PilzAdam what if you use --sort-output instead of --sort-by-file for msgmerge?
15:22 est31 we use msgmerge?
15:22 est31 we dont use that
15:22 est31 but xgettext has a similar command
15:22 est31 it will rip stuff out of context however
15:22 PilzAdam https://github.com/minetest/minetes​t/blob/master/util/updatepo.sh#L70
15:22 est31 why can't they first sort by file, then sort by output?
15:25 est31 look at the top commit here https://github.com/est31/minetest/commits/master
15:25 est31 dont open it in github
15:25 est31 rather wget https://github.com/est31/minetest/commit/e53​af96cc65cc06ea6fbe0e15deb0ce5384a228d.patch
15:25 est31 then git am e53af96cc65cc06ea6fbe0e15deb0ce5384a228d.patch
15:27 PilzAdam it seems to reorder the commented-out old stuff
15:27 PilzAdam we could just remove that?
15:28 est31 we could
15:29 est31 lets do the following
15:29 est31 I write a bug report for the msgmerge list
15:29 est31 then we hope for an answer
15:30 est31 if its not there within a week, we do the updatepo
15:30 est31 and remove the comments
15:30 est31 if ther is an answer, we wonder when it can be fixed
15:31 est31 and if that is inside a reasonable time frame, we wait till then, and I install a fixed msgmerge
15:31 PilzAdam sounds good, I guess
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15:54 VanessaE what does this mean?  http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/12946053/
15:54 VanessaE (starting at line 94)
15:57 kahrl VanessaE: note the pos = {X = -21474836, ...}
15:57 kahrl there's an object out of bounds
15:57 VanessaE eek
15:58 est31 a player, it is
15:59 est31 player name not known
15:59 VanessaE how the hell is that even possible? O_o
16:01 est31 dunno
16:01 est31 but it should have saved the coords in the player file
16:02 est31 so you can find out the name if you look at the players at the server atm
16:02 est31 perhaps the player had teleport, then its even harder to detect
16:02 VanessaE no one has teleport on that server, except admins
16:03 est31 well, then I guess it has been created by manual flying
16:03 est31 perhaps automated with a hacked client
16:03 est31 idk
16:03 est31 or the less exciting version, some internal error
16:03 est31 you know, which set the player coord to that pos
16:03 kahrl I've heard of users getting randomly teleported to insane coordinates which historically led to error messages by the audio subsystem
16:04 ElectronLibre Sometimes player can get out of bounds, I've seen that multiple times. Usually it's triggered when they join the server.
16:04 VanessaE no player file matches grep "214748" *
16:04 kahrl never experienced it myself, so I assume it's a rogue mod
16:06 ElectronLibre VanessaE: It might be written as a power of 10.
16:07 VanessaE nothing comes up among the server's files when I search 4748 either
16:07 VanessaE (nothing relevant anyway)
16:08 kahrl perhaps a mod passes in a huge number somewhere and the lua_api cpp code converts it to s32
16:08 kahrl which results in (s32)-0x80000000, as I noted in #3237
16:08 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/3237 -- PseudoRandom always generating same sequence with big seed
16:08 kahrl and -0x80000000 is -2147483648
16:09 VanessaE there are only two mods on the server that can teleport -- the "spawn" mod, and Sokomine's travelnet
16:09 VanessaE pretty sure the former isn't using coords even remotely similar :)
16:20 est31 oh, I have an idea
16:24 VanessaE ?
16:25 est31 for the msgmerge problem
16:27 VanessaE bbl
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16:47 PilzAdam est31, yes?
16:48 est31 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8219900/​filtering-a-diff-with-a-regular-expression
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16:49 est31 and made to ignore all lines starting with #~
16:49 est31 and the other question: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/13192594
16:50 PilzAdam what if the #~ lines are actually changed? e.g. if new ones are added, or old ones deleted?
16:50 est31 yup, thats the problem
16:51 PilzAdam you'd have to only ignore the lines, that are in both parts of the patch (old and new)
16:51 PilzAdam maybe cut the #~ lines, run updatepo.sh, and the append them again?
16:52 PilzAdam or would that just eliminate the whole purpose of them?
16:53 est31 sort of yes.
16:53 est31 'll include that in the email
16:55 est31 ok mail sent
17:16 BlockMen PTAL at https://github.com/BlockMen/minetest/commi​t/eb92bfb03038aa2ed42af46ff5ec7d144f0ff9af
17:20 est31 +1
17:20 est31 BlockMen, ^
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17:22 BlockMen ok, pushing
18:14 PilzAdam https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest/commi​t/eba5f7cd6cfb550b28de230bd5013a771d37b196
18:15 est31 ++
18:16 Krock &= 0x00    >:)
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18:46 PilzAdam merging now
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22:05 paramat if no objections will merge game#713 soon
22:05 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetes​t/minetest_game/issues/713 -- Default/functions: ABM for moss growth on cobble near water by paramat
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23:09 paramat now merging game 713
23:14 paramat done
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23:23 paramat hmmmm just so you know, i'll start work on adding rotation support to simple decorations, just the 4 rotations around y-axis and random, as with schematic decorations
23:23 est31 PTAL https://github.com/est31/minetest/commit/​d0a37365f045cdb8d84eacec2790339c5821b2c0
23:26 BlockMen est31 why you want print() be logged?
23:27 est31 often it contains important information, no?
23:27 BlockMen i use it to debug without spamming my log
23:27 BlockMen if i want have it be logged just use minetest.log()
23:27 BlockMen im not happy with that change
23:28 est31 hrmmm
23:28 est31 well, good to know that
23:28 est31 it was needed for the ncurses console patch, and I've thought I commit these two unrelated things so that the commit doesnt bloat
23:29 BlockMen just my opinion. if others think more your way fine aswell, then i will just use my costum builtin
23:29 est31 bc if normal print is used, it translates to printf, which then makes the console.... become inconsistent
23:29 est31 its really not nice ux wise to have something printed
23:29 est31 there is a way however to fulfill your wish, even with the console
23:30 est31 that however is closely tied to how the console works, so better done in my pr itself
23:30 est31 well, I'll remove the print redefine, is the commit then ok?
23:31 BlockMen sure
23:40 BlockMen oh, loglevel null, ... nvm
23:40 BlockMen est31 ^
23:41 est31 null doesnt exist
23:41 est31 there is none
23:41 est31 but none != null xD
23:44 BlockMen haarspalterei
23:45 est31 what about it?
23:45 est31 <BlockMen> oh, loglevel null, ... nvm
23:47 BlockMen i withdraw my objection against print() override. and since you knew what i ment with loglevel null your comment was haarspalterei :P

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