| Time |
Nick |
Message |
| 00:09 |
est31 |
Firefox has a "chrome-parity" label for bugs, to show that the bug/feature request is fulfilled by chrome |
| 00:09 |
est31 |
what do you think about a "minecraft-parity" label? |
| 00:10 |
est31 |
meh, not such a good idea |
| 00:11 |
est31 |
bad because becoming minecraft is not our goal |
| 00:11 |
TBC_x |
well... imo minecraft can at least show what parts of minetest needs improvement |
| 00:12 |
TBC_x |
in terms of gameplay |
| 00:12 |
TBC_x |
but I would totally love spatial location in mt |
| 00:13 |
TBC_x |
that would break 31000 world size limit |
| 00:13 |
est31 |
wuts that |
| 00:14 |
TBC_x |
spatial location is a relative position to the objects inside a scene |
| 00:14 |
TBC_x |
IE objects don't know about their global position |
| 00:15 |
TBC_x |
but rather relative to their cell they're bound to |
| 00:16 |
TBC_x |
would allow to run each part of the world in its own thread |
| 00:16 |
est31 |
wtf |
| 00:16 |
est31 |
thats totally unrelated |
| 00:16 |
est31 |
yes, it should be done |
| 00:17 |
TBC_x |
and also multiworld support |
| 00:17 |
TBC_x |
if anyone desires |
| 00:17 |
TBC_x |
when an infinite world is not enough infinite |
| 00:17 |
est31 |
we'll never get it infinite |
| 00:18 |
TBC_x |
idc, the player must have such feel |
| 00:18 |
est31 |
because of the same argument as computers aren't truly turing complete |
| 00:18 |
TBC_x |
alright, the world must feel really infinite |
| 00:21 |
TBC_x |
this would probably break some wireless mods however |
| 00:21 |
est31 |
it would totally break modding |
| 00:22 |
est31 |
and anything you want to do on the border |
| 00:22 |
est31 |
want to grow a tree? |
| 00:22 |
est31 |
want to run cables across? |
| 00:22 |
est31 |
just want to let a mob walk over? |
| 00:23 |
TBC_x |
the spatial location should not be partitioned against world space |
| 00:23 |
est31 |
? |
| 00:24 |
TBC_x |
but rather have a thread claim a block as its origin and simulate everything relative to its position |
| 00:26 |
est31 |
still you need some sort of handover |
| 00:26 |
TBC_x |
mapblock conflicts could be solved by yielding that thread's woldspace into another |
| 00:26 |
est31 |
imagine a player walking |
| 00:26 |
est31 |
in one direction for a long time |
| 00:27 |
est31 |
overlapping, that should work |
| 00:27 |
est31 |
interesting idea, indeed |
| 00:27 |
TBC_x |
yeah |
| 00:28 |
TBC_x |
if we could deploy server-side multiprocess proxies, we could solve protocol incompatibility and in addition have any cool things spatial localion can bring |
| 00:28 |
TBC_x |
such as seamless server transition |
| 00:29 |
est31 |
I've thought about multiprocess myself already too, like this overlapping feature, but spatial indexing is a cool feature |
| 00:29 |
est31 |
multiprocess and multiserver |
| 00:29 |
TBC_x |
yes |
| 00:30 |
TBC_x |
needs dynamic mod loading |
| 00:30 |
est31 |
? |
| 00:30 |
TBC_x |
if the servers will have different mods |
| 00:31 |
est31 |
meh, no |
| 00:31 |
est31 |
it wont just work |
| 00:31 |
est31 |
we declare some blocks to be HANDLED_BY_OTHER_SERVER |
| 00:31 |
est31 |
then the mod just cant modify it |
| 00:31 |
est31 |
players can walk over, |
| 00:31 |
est31 |
and saos can be handled over too |
| 00:31 |
TBC_x |
I made a draft of servers communicating to a process called mod manager that would map node and item IDs to have least conflicts, then sending needed files to clients |
| 00:32 |
TBC_x |
if dynamic mod loading wouldn't work |
| 00:32 |
TBC_x |
you get sum of all mods on connected servers |
| 00:32 |
TBC_x |
at least the media and stuff |
| 00:33 |
est31 |
media and stuff should be loaded dynamically, by the client |
| 00:33 |
TBC_x |
needs server-side initialized caching too |
| 00:33 |
est31 |
? |
| 00:34 |
TBC_x |
well... at least priorities |
| 00:34 |
TBC_x |
so the near nodes from mods have higher priority |
| 00:34 |
est31 |
?? |
| 00:34 |
TBC_x |
nvm |
| 00:36 |
TBC_x |
would be good to put a link somewhere to this discussion |
| 00:36 |
TBC_x |
because it is imho the way to go |
| 00:36 |
est31 |
make a wiki page |
| 00:37 |
TBC_x |
forum account enough? |
| 00:39 |
est31 |
no its separate account systems |
| 00:40 |
est31 |
you need to ask an admin for an account |
| 00:40 |
est31 |
dunno if some of them is here |
| 00:41 |
TBC_x |
I have even put those Ideas on a paper |
| 00:41 |
TBC_x |
except mention of the spatial location part |
| 00:45 |
TBC_x |
well... with proxies, we could even plug in a MT 3.x client |
| 00:45 |
TBC_x |
ridicilous |
| 00:46 |
est31 |
proxies make even mt <-> mc communication possible |
| 00:46 |
TBC_x |
yes |
| 00:46 |
TBC_x |
just wanted to mention that |
| 00:47 |
TBC_x |
if we achieve that point, we may even get minetest on wikipedia :) |
| 00:48 |
est31 |
no |
| 00:48 |
est31 |
wikipedia only thinks in sources |
| 00:49 |
est31 |
and controversy |
| 00:49 |
TBC_x |
exactly |
| 00:49 |
est31 |
but for actual notability to exist, they need actual entries, best in new york times class articles |
| 00:49 |
est31 |
and not just a mention, a whole article |
| 00:49 |
est31 |
s/class articles/class newspapers/ |
| 00:50 |
TBC_x |
have you seen c55's buildat? |
| 00:51 |
est31 |
yes |
| 00:51 |
est31 |
but I had no closer look at it |
| 00:52 |
TBC_x |
well... I really like mods in native code |
| 00:53 |
TBC_x |
that enables to use any language the developers please |
| 00:53 |
est31 |
what about webassembly |
| 00:53 |
est31 |
it gives us compilers for free |
| 00:53 |
est31 |
and people developing compilers |
| 00:54 |
est31 |
it features a top sandbox |
| 00:56 |
TBC_x |
I believe that webassembly is just a hack around poor design choice |
| 00:56 |
TBC_x |
just as html5 is |
| 00:58 |
est31 |
its something called "aged technology" |
| 00:59 |
TBC_x |
it is called Hyper -->TEXT<-- Markup Language |
| 01:00 |
est31 |
whats bad about text |
| 01:00 |
TBC_x |
nothing |
| 01:00 |
TBC_x |
binary blobs are bad in text |
| 01:00 |
est31 |
so whats bad about html5 then, there are no binary blobs there? |
| 01:01 |
TBC_x |
it moved closer to binary blobs |
| 01:01 |
est31 |
html5 moved away from binary blobs |
| 01:02 |
est31 |
before you required plugins to do lotsa stuff |
| 01:02 |
TBC_x |
yeah |
| 01:02 |
TBC_x |
that was an ugly hack too |
| 01:03 |
est31 |
so whats the problem |
| 01:03 |
est31 |
its less blobs now. |
| 01:03 |
est31 |
and video and images have to be blobs, there is no way around that |
| 01:04 |
TBC_x |
well... regular video allows you to get played with a player of your choice |
| 01:05 |
TBC_x |
hmm |
| 01:05 |
TBC_x |
Do you know Plan9? |
| 01:06 |
est31 |
its an os no? |
| 01:06 |
TBC_x |
yes |
| 01:06 |
TBC_x |
very, very interesting |
| 01:06 |
TBC_x |
every single resource is a file |
| 01:07 |
TBC_x |
well... it's not that far |
| 01:07 |
TBC_x |
but almost every single resource is a file |
| 01:07 |
TBC_x |
VNC? you just export local display |
| 01:08 |
TBC_x |
VPN? you just export local network interface over file server |
| 01:10 |
TBC_x |
need to run an expensive operation? just connect to a server that has just the CPU power you need |
| 01:12 |
TBC_x |
http://plan9.bell-labs.com/sys/doc/auth.html |
| 01:15 |
est31 |
wtf what encoding is this |
| 01:17 |
TBC_x |
not windows-1252 |
| 01:18 |
TBC_x |
?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"? |
| 01:18 |
est31 |
either the html or the transport protocol has to specify the encoding |
| 01:18 |
est31 |
have* |
| 01:18 |
est31 |
interesting |
| 01:19 |
est31 |
either a bug with firefox, or a bug with the page |
| 01:19 |
est31 |
where is the w3 validator |
| 01:19 |
TBC_x |
its a page bug |
| 01:19 |
TBC_x |
probably |
| 01:20 |
est31 |
lol |
| 01:21 |
est31 |
even w3's page itself has a bug |
| 01:23 |
est31 |
seems this is firefox fault |
| 01:28 |
TBC_x |
it is in View->Text Encoding->Unicode |
| 01:28 |
TBC_x |
in firefox |
| 01:32 |
est31 |
writing <?xml seems to be invalid by the spec, but isn't recognized by the validator |
| 01:33 |
TBC_x |
well.. you can change document encoding in firefox as you wish |
| 01:33 |
TBC_x |
i had that menu hidden with now outdated pentadactyl |
| 01:54 |
est31 |
? |
| 01:55 |
est31 |
what about five fingers? |
| 01:55 |
est31 |
only know duodenum |
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| 03:55 |
est31 |
RealBadAngel, you can push it then. |
| 03:55 |
est31 |
#2953 |
| 03:55 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/2953 -- Remove drivers dropdown in the settings tab by kilbith |
| 04:18 |
est31 |
hmmmm, what do you think, can we push the logging pr? |
| 04:19 |
hmmmm |
what logging pr |
| 04:19 |
est31 |
#2628 |
| 04:19 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/2628 -- Clean up logging by ShadowNinja |
| 04:19 |
hmmmm |
oh that one.. |
| 04:19 |
hmmmm |
i havent' looked at it in a while |
| 04:19 |
hmmmm |
whatever happened to the threading PR? |
| 04:20 |
hmmmm |
it needs like 2 or 3 more things fixed and another rebase and then it's good |
| 04:21 |
hmmmm |
the logging PR has merge conflicts too anyway |
| 04:23 |
est31 |
btw is it good practice to have #defines depend on something, but not include the dependency where they are defined, requiring the "user" to include them? |
| 04:23 |
hmmmm |
i wouldn't really say it matters that much |
| 04:23 |
est31 |
ok |
| 04:52 |
RealBadAngel |
will 2953 disable dstream? |
| 04:52 |
est31 |
no |
| 04:52 |
est31 |
it will rename it |
| 04:52 |
est31 |
to rawstream |
| 04:54 |
RealBadAngel |
ok |
| 04:54 |
RealBadAngel |
reading the comments i was afraid it was about to remove my fav debugging feature ;) |
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cornernote |
anyone know, whats the largest formspec that will work on all devices ? |
| 05:46 |
est31 |
there is none specified |
| 05:46 |
cornernote |
anyone used trial and error to find out ? |
| 05:47 |
cornernote |
looking at you RBA |
| 05:47 |
cornernote |
you did a fair bit of formspec in technic and inventory mods, and also others |
| 05:49 |
cornernote |
17,13 fits |
| 05:49 |
cornernote |
but was reported on android phone to be offscreen |
| 05:50 |
cornernote |
im going to go with 15,10 |
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RealBadAngel |
cornernote, UI got lately lite mode |
| 07:33 |
RealBadAngel |
to fit android devices |
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nrzkt |
will merge #2953 in ~5min, it was approved by two core devs |
| 07:59 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/2953 -- Remove drivers dropdown in the settings tab by kilbith |
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Krock |
Too bad.. having a list of supported renders was a nice thing |
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est31 |
stupid damn ncurses! |
| 09:47 |
est31 |
src/chat.h:103:7: error: expected identifier before numeric constant |
| 09:47 |
est31 |
void scroll(s32 rows); |
| 09:47 |
est31 |
spot the error |
| 09:47 |
est31 |
src/chat.h:103:7: error: expected ‘,’ or ‘...’ before numeric constant |
| 09:47 |
est31 |
so? found it?? |
| 09:47 |
est31 |
https://www.mkssoftware.com/docs/man3/curs_scroll.3.asp |
| 09:47 |
est31 |
"Note that scrl() and scroll() may be macros." |
| 09:47 |
est31 |
thanks, macros |
| 09:49 |
nrzkt |
:p |
| 09:52 |
kilbith |
nrzkt: can you reopen #2411 please ? |
| 09:52 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/2411 -- Colored chat for FreeType builds by nerzhul |
| 09:52 |
kilbith |
has been accidentaly closed when you deleted the 0.5 branch |
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| 09:54 |
nrzkt |
i cannot because branch doesn't exists anymore |
| 09:54 |
kilbith |
ah bad :( |
| 09:54 |
VanessaE |
nrzkt: https://github.com/nerzhul/minetest/commit/6cf922524deeddc0e0343c7015b2e9c5ae6e2a5f.patch |
| 09:55 |
VanessaE |
you can restart it from that point (good luck rebasing it I guess, though :) ) |
| 09:55 |
nrzkt |
i can, but i'm working on another thing. |
| 09:56 |
kilbith |
or maybe est31 since he's involved with the chat |
| 09:57 |
est31 |
kilbith, no, sorry, I'm doing something else too |
| 09:57 |
nrzkt |
est31: when you get time, can you review #2956 please. I merge particle spawner functions because they do same thing but we have two functions for changing only peer_id... |
| 09:57 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/2956 -- Cleanup server addparticle(spawner) by merge two identical functions. by nerzhul |
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Miner_59 |
Hi, Issue #1551 was closed by hmmm but the PR to fix the issue is still open and was never added to source code. I tested and can confirm the bug is still there. You can jump on nodes which have disable_jump as a group when the block is a nodebox which is not a full block high. |
| 10:29 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1551 -- disable_jump group doesn't work on nodeboxes |
| 10:31 |
est31 |
reopened it Miner_59 |
| 10:31 |
nrzkt |
will merge #2956 in ~10 mins |
| 10:31 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/2956 -- Cleanup server addparticle(spawner) by merge two identical functions. by nerzhul |
| 10:34 |
Miner_59 |
ok, thanks. |
| 10:38 |
Miner_59 |
And PR #2241 by gregorycu fixes it for me too. |
| 10:38 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/2241 -- Fix for disable_jump group doesn't work on nodeboxes by gregorycu |
| 10:41 |
kilbith |
est31, nrzkt : https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/2957 |
| 10:46 |
Krock |
#2948 comments? |
| 10:46 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/2948 -- Fix MSVC number conversion warning by SmallJoker |
| 10:47 |
est31 |
Krock, is that the only conversion warning, or is it one of one million? |
| 10:47 |
nrzkt |
pushed |
| 10:48 |
Krock |
est31, an extreme long warning |
| 10:48 |
Krock |
VC suggests to use conversion methods etc. however, this warning is about 15 lines long |
| 10:48 |
est31 |
are there other such extreme long warnings? |
| 10:48 |
Krock |
nope, it's the only one |
| 10:48 |
est31 |
ok |
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TBC_x |
hi, is there any better solution to this? http://sprunge.us/Jjib |
| 14:21 |
TBC_x |
whoops |
| 14:21 |
TBC_x |
w/c |
| 14:26 |
est31 |
looks like rust, doesnt it? |
| 14:26 |
TBC_x |
yes |
| 14:27 |
est31 |
I don't know any rust, but I like its goals. |
| 14:27 |
est31 |
want to learn it at some point |
| 14:29 |
est31 |
teaching hermatite the minetest protocol? |
| 14:30 |
TBC_x |
well... I wanna try to link mt against connection.cpp rewritten to rust |
| 14:30 |
TBC_x |
best way to learn imho |
| 14:32 |
est31 |
I don't think that this will ever be merged, but development in this direction is good IMO. rust gives many guarantees c++ doesn't |
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TBC_x |
yeah, I doubt it get merged |
| 14:41 |
est31 |
kilbith_, wanna test something? |
| 14:46 |
kilbith_ |
est31: yes ? |
| 14:48 |
est31 |
I've written #2955 without testing it, and the issue reporter disappeared |
| 14:48 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/2955 -- Fix recipes getter regression by est31 |
| 14:48 |
est31 |
it should be easily testable, the reporter gives lua code |
| 14:56 |
kilbith |
ok |
| 14:56 |
kilbith |
meanwhile i have +2 on 2957 |
| 14:56 |
est31 |
ok will push i |
| 14:56 |
est31 |
t |
| 14:57 |
est31 |
later |
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kilbith |
est31: your patch works, will give a proof on the PR |
| 15:29 |
est31 |
nice, thanks |
| 15:29 |
est31 |
hmmmm, can you have a look at #2955 ? |
| 15:29 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/2955 -- Fix recipes getter regression by est31 |
| 15:30 |
hmmmm |
what's with all the static keywords |
| 15:30 |
est31 |
well, its not put into the header |
| 15:30 |
hmmmm |
yeah sure. looks fine. |
| 15:31 |
est31 |
ok, pushing kilbiths pr (has 2 +1) and mine (has 1 +1) then |
| 15:35 |
kilbith |
and what about #2948 |
| 15:35 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/2948 -- Fix MSVC number conversion warning by SmallJoker |
| 15:37 |
est31 |
ok merging that too |
| 15:40 |
kilbith |
you have a date for freezing in mind, est31 ? |
| 15:42 |
est31 |
August 2. |
| 15:42 |
kilbith |
ok sounds good |
| 15:43 |
est31 |
Right now I'm sitting on an ncurses terminal, want to get it ready for 0.4.13 |
| 15:44 |
est31 |
Just hope I get it reviewed faster than areastore |
| 15:44 |
est31 |
which should optimally also get into 0.4.13 |
| 15:45 |
VanessaE |
est31: speaking of, check out the current server stats page |
| 15:45 |
VanessaE |
should be enough data there for you to tell if it's working as expected. |
| 15:45 |
VanessaE |
(I think so, but you're the expert :) ) |
| 15:47 |
est31 |
I think even changes in the >10% range, which this is inside are hard to identify in CPU load stats |
| 15:47 |
est31 |
CPU varies too much for that |
| 15:48 |
est31 |
I have my benchmarks from singleplayer, there I can confirm the speedups |
| 15:48 |
VanessaE |
ok |
| 15:58 |
Miner_59 |
Can you try to add PRs #2886 and #2241 before the freeze? Use this mod to test: https://github.com/Jeija/minetest-mod-jumping , node for testing bouncing "jumping:trampoline5", and node with disable_jump "jumping:cushion" |
| 15:58 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/2886 -- Fix "bouncy" blocks by Miner59 |
| 15:58 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/2241 -- Fix for disable_jump group doesn't work on nodeboxes by gregorycu |
| 15:59 |
est31 |
2886 has the basic problem that it removes functionality, no? |
| 15:59 |
est31 |
2241 seems ok though. |
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Miner_59 |
no, I will write in german channel ok |
| 15:59 |
est31 |
ok |
| 16:28 |
est31 |
Tesseract, https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/2898#discussion_r35372179 |
| 16:28 |
est31 |
so you agree to the name, but only want the comment changed= |
| 16:28 |
est31 |
? |
| 16:29 |
est31 |
I can change it to "areas" |
| 16:29 |
est31 |
"area" is bad, because "lists" is in plural too |
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amadin |
How to set bones walkable, "walkable = true," in "minetest.register_node("bones:bones", {" not help me? |
| 16:42 |
Calinou |
they are already walkable by default. Moreover, walkable = true is the default! |
| 16:42 |
Calinou |
ask such questions in #minetest by the way |
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amadin |
in my mod they are not walkable |
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est31 |
hmmmm, miner59 argues you misunderstood #2886 and says that because you've tested with calinou's version. |
| 17:32 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/2886 -- Fix "bouncy" blocks by Miner59 |
| 17:33 |
est31 |
but somehow I doubt that |
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est31 |
because you seldomly test things, you read code :) |
| 17:56 |
est31 |
man this ncurses thingy is fucking fun, I wonder why nobody before did it |
| 17:56 |
est31 |
well you missed a hell of a time |
| 18:16 |
hmmmm |
hrm |
| 18:16 |
hmmmm |
cache_entry_t |
| 18:16 |
hmmmm |
aren't identifiers with _t suffixes reserved? |
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hmmmm |
est31, if we want to be POSIX compliant you can't name your type cache_entry_t |
| 18:17 |
est31 |
no problem |
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hmmmm |
http://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9699919799/functions/V2_chap02.html |
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est31 |
I was just copying some random stuff from the internet, and was happy as it compiled |
| 18:18 |
est31 |
what bout CacheEntryT |
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hmmmm |
is the T really necessary |
| 18:19 |
est31 |
its parameter type vodoo |
| 18:19 |
est31 |
or how the <T> stuff is called |
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hmmmm |
that's a typename you defined on your own |
| 18:20 |
est31 |
Its no real class, just a "helper type" |
| 18:20 |
hmmmm |
oh, actually it looks like a typedef |
| 18:20 |
hmmmm |
and it's defined inside of your own class |
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hmmmm |
so that'd be LRUCache::cache_entry_t fully qualified |
| 18:21 |
est31 |
yes, its private. |
| 18:22 |
est31 |
so, I strip the _t and make cache_entry and cache_type CamelCase, is it ok then? |
| 18:22 |
hmmmm |
you can do whatever you want really |
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hmmmm |
i thought it was globally defined |
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hmmmm |
how is Area different from VoxelArea? |
| 18:29 |
hmmmm |
oh i see, it has an ID as well |
| 18:29 |
est31 |
it has also data |
| 18:32 |
hmmmm |
unit tests are great |
| 18:32 |
hmmmm |
they give a quick summary on how to use whatever interface being tested |
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luizrpgluiz |
at some future it will be possible to link the worlds minetest through portals, worlds I say is the folder words |
| 20:24 |
luizrpgluiz |
would be really cool, even very demanding computer |
| 20:25 |
luizrpgluiz |
-. |
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luizrpgluiz |
-:D |
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hmmmm |
i think tbc_x was interested in working on something similar to that |
| 20:39 |
luizrpgluiz |
it would be great to servers with the worlds made with the default because it would be a problem trying to connect interconnected worlds with different subgames |
| 20:43 |
TBC_x |
if you look up the log from today's morning |
| 20:43 |
TBC_x |
well |
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TBC_x |
19 hours ago |
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luizrpgluiz |
but it is difficult to program? program multi words? |
| 20:55 |
luizrpgluiz |
because interconnect different subgames would much conflict |
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est31 |
ok! the ncurses chat console works now more or less |
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est31 |
has a few bugs though |
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TBC_x |
hmm... I think that sender/receiver is bad place to manage connection |
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TBC_x |
sender/receiver threads |
| 22:22 |
TBC_x |
too much shared state |
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luizrpgluiz |
ncurses? chat command to minetest? I thought I would not have it in the game |
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est31 |
luizrpgluiz, wanna try it? |
| 22:25 |
est31 |
its alpha state |
| 22:27 |
luizrpgluiz |
it would be very useful :D |
| 22:28 |
luizrpgluiz |
so I could give commands out of the game without logging into the game and make the commands :D |
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luizrpgluiz |
despite being in alpha, but I wanted to try, but I hope it works on windows and linux |
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luizrpgluiz |
:) |
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est31 |
dont think it works on windows |
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est31 |
I'm not sure |
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luizrpgluiz |
est31:but what is the system that you programmed it? |
| 22:31 |
est31 |
ncurses |
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est31 |
its mostly a linux library |
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est31 |
it will probably work if you have mingw on windows |
| 22:32 |
est31 |
dunno however if windows builds are with mingw, or bare, or whatever. |
| 22:35 |
est31 |
https://github.com/est31/minetest/commits/ncurses-console |
| 22:36 |
est31 |
luizrpgluiz, ^ thats the code, try it, say what you find good, what you miss etc |
| 22:40 |
kahrl |
for windows there's also pdcurses |
| 22:42 |
luizrpgluiz |
est31: hehehe, I do not even know where I start, because I'm still learning the minetest mods language, however I never mechi with high programming languages |
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luizrpgluiz |
:D |
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kahrl |
I think you have to include curses.h instead of ncurses.h though |
| 22:42 |
est31 |
dunno whether I use special curses features |
| 22:42 |
luizrpgluiz |
ops mechi = using |
| 22:43 |
est31 |
lemme see what happens if I strip the n |
| 22:44 |
est31 |
wow, it built |
| 22:44 |
est31 |
so porting to pdcurses shouldnt be a big deal |
| 22:44 |
est31 |
I however cant do it due to lack of a windows box |
| 22:44 |
est31 |
perhaps I should adjust the cmake variable USE_NCURSES and ENABLE_NCURSES |
| 22:50 |
luizrpgluiz |
? |
| 22:51 |
TBC_x |
does the console connect to the server or is its integral part? |
| 22:55 |
est31 |
TBC_x, its in its own thread, but within the server's process |
| 22:56 |
est31 |
if you start in terminal mode, closing the terminal also ends the server |
| 22:57 |
TBC_x |
would be cool if you could connect on demand |
| 22:57 |
TBC_x |
but probably blacklist the network |
| 23:09 |
est31 |
TBC_x, well, you can route it through screen |
| 23:10 |
est31 |
you are the plan9 guy :) |
| 23:10 |
TBC_x |
in plan9 you feed a file with commands |
| 23:10 |
TBC_x |
or directly write to minetest/chat |
| 23:11 |
est31 |
here you can run it on screen, and connect to it if you want |
| 23:11 |
TBC_x |
so cat /dev/disk > minetest/chat may be interesting |
| 23:11 |
TBC_x |
:) |
| 23:11 |
est31 |
you can even connect multiple instances of screen |
| 23:14 |
TBC_x |
I should stop mocking your efforts, do your best |
| 23:33 |
est31 |
hmmmm, why does UASSERTEQ need an extra type? |
| 23:42 |
est31 |
I mean thats horrible |
| 23:43 |
est31 |
imagine if somebody changes the return type of a function, but forgets to change it for the uasserteq |
| 23:44 |
est31 |
ofc its "just" unit tests, but rotting unittests are bad |
