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hmmmm |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/61dfa912f5f37f435e41b3c7d8cdb6244562e597 |
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hmmmm |
paramat: when you get back, I think this is my solution to caves in v7 |
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hmmmm |
OreVein doubles as a cave generator: set ore = "air" and wherein = {"default:stone", "default:stone_with_coal", ...etc...} and set mg_flags = "nocaves" |
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paramat |
cool, air veins for caves? |
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hmmmm |
yea |
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paramat |
how about non-eased for speed |
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hmmmm |
eased doesn't really affect the speed as much as you'd think |
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paramat |
ah i see |
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hmmmm |
now, back when easeCurve() used pow(), it was horrible :) |
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hmmmm |
that was my first minetest contribution heh, optimizing that made noise like 2x as fast |
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Zeno` |
I'm not sure I understand why if (!noise_generated) { ... } is inside the loop |
| 02:24 |
hmmmm |
read the comment in OreBlob |
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hmmmm |
this way, noise is only generated if at least one node in the chunk is "wherein" |
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hmmmm |
e.g. ore could potentially be placed |
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Zeno` |
oh, I see |
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paramat |
good idea |
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hmmmm |
it speeds things up like 6x for the OreBlob case and 15x for the OreVein case |
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paramat |
wow a randomised threshold for bumpy cave walls |
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hmmmm |
yeah you'd have to set random_factor to be quite small (like maybe 0.01) for that to work |
| 02:34 |
hmmmm |
you want the randomness to be *right* at the edge |
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paramat |
please merge ths before conflicts arise =) https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/2019 there are some comments and details there now |
| 02:35 |
hmmmm |
right right |
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hmmmm |
this is the finalized version? |
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paramat |
yes if it seems reasonable to you, it's tested |
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paramat |
thanks |
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Zeno` |
hmmmm, did you see #2020? |
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ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/2020 -- copy & paste error in cavegen.cpp, line 125 |
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hmmmm |
yes i saw it, thanks |
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hmmmm |
Zeno`, were you waiting for a reason to commit the "fix comparison always true/false warning" thing? |
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Zeno` |
I'm not sure I made a PR... too much Christmas got in the way |
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hmmmm |
you did not |
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Zeno` |
Well, I'm only waiting because there are people here visiting and I'm not really programming again until tomorrow I guess :) |
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hmmmm |
https://github.com/kwolekr/minetest/commit/3c023aa65864e0778689e82b01d5455e436302f9 |
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hmmmm |
looking for feedback on this one ^ |
| 05:00 |
hmmmm |
(yes, I fixed the extra blank line I accidentally added) |
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Zeno` |
Without testing it looks good, and the set_wear() behaviour make sense now |
| 05:05 |
Zeno` |
does l_set_metadata set a (Lua) return value for any particular reason? |
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Zeno` |
forward compatibility? |
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hmmmm |
i have no clue |
| 05:07 |
Zeno` |
or maybe consistency? (I'm not debating it, I was just wondering). |
| 05:07 |
Zeno` |
Ah ok |
| 05:07 |
hmmmm |
the return value is 1, so presumably it needs to return something |
| 05:08 |
hmmmm |
maybe it was supposed to fail if ptr == NULL, but that's not possible since luaL_checklstring() would throw a LuaError in the case where it would return NULL |
| 05:09 |
hmmmm |
in any case, I'm willing to remove the error disable bit if I see none of those warnings from now on |
| 05:09 |
hmmmm |
and to prevent anything like that from happening in the future, maybe -Wextra should be added |
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Zeno` |
I get a trillion warnings with -Wextra. Would be nice to fix them all (one day) I suppose |
| 05:11 |
Zeno` |
most of them are unused vars though (from memory) |
| 05:12 |
Zeno` |
Anyway, I'll check what I wrote and make a PR (or you can merge without a PR); right now I'm going to have to socialise again though :( |
| 05:12 |
hmmmm |
actually nevermind about -Wextra |
| 05:12 |
hmmmm |
aside from -Wtype-limist and -Wsign-compare I'm not sure if it's too useful |
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hmmmm |
a lot of things there are subjective |
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hmmmm |
we'll see what the kind of warnings crop up with that |
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Zeno` |
Kind of like splint... it gives so many warnings (usually subjective or false alarms) that it's essentially useless (IMO) |
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hmmmm |
ugh |
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hmmmm |
HP fortify is that way |
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hmmmm |
crap |
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hmmmm |
i don't think it's possible to use a MapVoxelManipulator without loading map from the disk |
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hmmmm |
i think i'll preserve the interface introduced in 8334100... but completely remove the blank loading part |
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hmmmm |
what do you guys think about breaking mod compatibility for the next version which will be called either 1.0.0 or 5.0.0? |
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hmmmm |
the even version number is an excuse to make a move like this and we can have an opportunity to fix some interfaces to be more sane |
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Zeno` |
kaeza is commenting before my page refreshes heh |
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Zeno` |
wrong button? :) |
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Zeno` |
will merge https://github.com/Zeno-/minetest/commit/2c07b30c6b7de65091467213890f72bf52553326 |
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Zeno` |
will merge #2013 |
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ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/2013 -- Add util/bump_version.sh by kahrl |
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Zeno` |
Merging #2018 (Rui914 is the only person in viewable history to maintain it) |
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ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/2018 -- Update Japanese Translation by Rui914 |
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Zeno` |
Comments on #1946? |
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ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1946 -- Android gui by KodexKy |
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Zeno` |
kahrl_, are you here? If so, 1936 looks good |
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Zeno` |
I'm going to merge 1946 in about 30 minutes because KodexKy is the only one seemingly interested in Android builds at the moment and he's not made a mistake yet |
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Zeno` |
ok, all done |
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kilbith |
sfan5: #1832, the background is set statically, this is why i closed it |
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ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1832 -- Main menu background images by kilbith |
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kilbith |
however the mainmenu formspec will be reworked soon |
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hmmmm |
https://github.com/kwolekr/minetest/commit/5e2753c712e8f65fa50f4889fc1422393ba21413 |
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hmmmm |
comments/concerns? |
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Krock |
@commit above: no comments. looks good. |
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Krock |
but I'm not sure if the mapgen params are loaded when the server starts |
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rubenwardy |
You'd assume that hmmmm would know that |
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rubenwardy |
and had tested |
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Krock |
yeah, just making sure |
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neoascetic |
Hi all. Where is source code for minetest.net is located? |
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neoascetic |
I want to add note about homebrew into Downloads/OSX |
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Krock |
That's not on github |
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rubenwardy |
Selected people can edit minetest.net, I am one of those people. |
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rubenwardy |
What is the note? |
| 19:24 |
neoascetic |
Something like "Install it with homebrew (http://brew.sh/): brew install homebrew/games/minetest. Append --HEAD parameter to get latest version" |
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neoascetic |
minetest.net is not static website, isn't it? I think it would be a good idea to keep it static and host on https://pages.github.com/ for free. |
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rubenwardy |
Done |
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rubenwardy |
Jekyll is good |
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rubenwardy |
GitHub allows you to use your domain for free |
| 19:28 |
neoascetic |
Just like terasology.org |
| 19:28 |
rubenwardy |
ie: point minetest.net to minetest.github.io |
| 19:28 |
neoascetic |
btw, I've rewrite their static website, so I have some expirience |
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neoascetic |
:) |
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rubenwardy |
The website uses a markdown / mediawiki type thing for articles. |
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rubenwardy |
It is DokuWiki |
| 19:31 |
hmmmm |
Krock, you can tell when the mapgen params are loaded by looking at Server::Server() |
| 19:31 |
hmmmm |
https://github.com/kwolekr/minetest/commit/5e2753c712e8f65fa50f4889fc1422393ba21413#diff-ad60d65b34e16a3319296bb5d683acd6R300 |
| 19:32 |
hmmmm |
hmmm, however this change *does* break core.set_noiseparams() |
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hmmmm |
I'm working on changing up lots of stuff though |
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Krock |
and it's not possible to add back-compatibility? |
| 19:32 |
hmmmm |
nope |
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hmmmm |
well |
| 19:33 |
hmmmm |
it's not worth it when it's going to be changed in like 5 seconds |
| 19:33 |
hmmmm |
in any case, here's my development roadmap for the next couple of commits: |
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hmmmm |
after this, I'd like to finally add an API accessible from the main menu that retrieves the supported mapgens by reading the table from emerge.cpp |
| 19:35 |
Krock |
not bad. |
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neoascetic |
rubenwardy thx for homebrew note |
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Krock |
still, this change should be announced somewhere to inform the modders |
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hmmmm |
then i'm going to add an option in EnumString to read the "long name" of flags as a boolean field in the current table (not from a "flags" field within that table) |
| 19:36 |
Krock |
I'm fine with it |
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hmmmm |
this way you can do things liket |
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hmmmm |
noise_params = { ... eased = true, absvalue = true} |
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hmmmm |
or schematic = { center_pos_x = true } |
| 19:37 |
hmmmm |
etc |
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Krock |
^ not very helpful when there's no use for "absvalue = 4" or like that |
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hmmmm |
thank you for the commentary |
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Krock |
np |
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hmmmm |
that was sarcastic |
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Krock |
<.< |
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hmmmm |
then i'm going to add the schematic registration/cache mechanism |
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hmmmm |
then i'm going to add unit tests for a whole pile of things like noise, schematics, and light |
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hmmmm |
and in doing so i'm adding a mechanism to read/write temporary files during unit tests |
| 19:39 |
hmmmm |
also adding a directory test_data which will store static files used to compare with during unit tests |
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hmmmm |
then after all the unit tests have been completed, i'm going to change Map::updateLighting to use the quick mapgen lighting algorithm after i work out a couple of lingering bugs |
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hmmmm |
I am going to have to update unspreadLight() as well |
| 19:41 |
hmmmm |
I think we should formalize this discussion process |
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hmmmm |
"what changes we are planning to make with the code, and roughly how we're planning to accomplish it" |
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paramat |
'Expose mapgen parameters on scripting init' looks good and is much needed |
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Small bug: list of online players doesn't go onto a new line if it reaches the edge of the screen on /status |
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hmmmm |
paramat: you remember that "// switch to getBlockSeed2()!" in Mapgen V7? |
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hmmmm |
I'm going to implement that soon, but changing it would mean changing tree/cave/etc. output |
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hmmmm |
do you want me to switch mapgen v5 too while i'm at it? |
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paramat |
hmmmm yes switch v5 also |
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paramat |
i assume getblockseed2 has advantages, sounds like it from that comment in v7 (which i remember) |
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hmmmm |
yes, it has a much better random distribution |
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hmmmm |
instead of some sort of seed + random gobbledygook, i'm using noise3d() |
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hmmmm |
wtf |
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hmmmm |
messages are now in the center of the screen |
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hmmmm |
and the item count seems to be to the right rather than the left |
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hmmmm |
well, I don't think it's that bad |
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paramat |
hmmmm bug report for schematics https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=10863 |
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hmmmm |
can i ever get schematics right the first time |
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hmmmm |
heh |
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hmmmm |
i tested that and it worked for me, so this is pretty useless information without a backtrace |
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