Time  Nick        Message
04:29 kaeza       I noticed that due to the freedom you now have with meshnodes, complex wieldmeshes can be (hackily) created, but now I'm running into a problem: the wielditem/camera gets clipped way too close.
04:29 kaeza       could that clipping be removed or the distance extended?
04:30 kaeza       example: https://mediacru.sh/VssOxcHsrGDI
04:31 kaeza       (note: this does not only apply to meshnodes, but nodes in general; 16px extruded images get clipped with a (not too) big wield_scale)
04:31 kaeza       ditto for nodeboxes > 1n in size
04:33 kaeza       here's the relevant model, for comparison: https://mediacru.sh/HLUjXg3HBmh3
04:46 joshlemer   Hey quick question, what would be some general prereqs to start contributing to minetest?
04:47 kaeza       quick answer: none
04:50 kaeza       or, well, just the desire (and patience) to do so :P
04:55 joshlemer   No C++ or Lua knowledge. Guess it would be a great way to learn :)
05:07 ShadowNinja joshlemer: You can contribute to docs and the like with no speial knowledge, but knowing C++ and/or Lua helps.
05:07 ShadowNinja special*
05:08 ShadowNinja kaeza: Make an issue for that if there isn't one already.  Also, that screenshot looks awesome, if it weren't for the bug.  Horray for flexibility!
05:10 ShadowNinja joshlemer: Oh, and testing.  If you can manage to compile Minetest pull requests and test them that would be great.
05:15 Zeno`       unconfirmed bug, hehehe
05:16 Zeno`       Now I know why ShadowNinja has the Ninja postfix
05:22 Zeno`       ShadowNinja, even if it's unconfirmed should that error crash the server?
05:43 kaeza       here: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1770
08:27 Krock       09:27:45: INFO[main]: SourceShaderCache::getOrLoad(): No path found for "nodes_shader\opengl_geometry.glsl"
08:52 Calinou     how do I know a particular map's mapgen? I want to generate snow biomes only on v6
08:52 Calinou     minetest.setting_get() will not work because it doesn't return the value of the current map
08:53 kaeza       Calinou, register_on_mapgen_init, and check if mp.mgname == "v6"
08:55 Calinou     OK
08:55 Calinou     thanks
08:56 Calinou     no idea how to do that though
08:56 Calinou     any example of code being used?
08:56 Calinou     http://dev.minetest.net/minetest.register_on_mapgen_init is very vague
08:57 kaeza       local gen_snow = true ; minetest.register_on_mapgen_init(function(mp) if mp.mgname ~= "v6" then gen_snow=false end end) -- Disclaimer: untested
08:58 Calinou     cool
08:58 kaeza       then in your register_on_generate callback, just bail out if gen_snow is false
09:00 kaeza       but I see no reason to disallow generating snow in other mapgens
09:01 Calinou     to support yappy well
09:02 Calinou     i.e. no snow generation in all singlenode mapgens
09:02 Calinou     which are expected to be Lua mapgens, providing their own biome stuff
09:03 Calinou     meh, I give up
09:03 Calinou     I'll put minetest.conf setting
09:04 Krock       Calinou, how about soft depending on a lua mapgen and then disable the biome blend over a global variable?
09:04 Calinou     ?
09:18 Zeno`       can somebody please tag #1756 as WIP until I resolve an MSVC issue?
09:18 ShadowBot   https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1756 -- Refactor the game by Zeno-
10:09 Calinou     https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/1600
10:09 Calinou     bump
10:09 Zeno`       I agree with that change Calinou
10:10 Zeno`       It's little things like that which add polish
10:10 Zeno`       can the screen aspect be retrieved at run time though and the "default" adjusted to suit
10:10 Zeno`       ?
10:10 sfan5       yes
10:14 Calinou     https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/1771
10:14 Calinou     in before people randomly oppose
10:15 Zeno`       Calinou is the pre-ninja ninja
10:30 Calinou     https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/1772
10:30 Calinou     take or leave
11:23 Krock       Calinou, add a minetest.conf setting!
11:35 Calinou     better idea indeed
11:35 Calinou     I think I know how
11:35 Calinou     but I'll do that later
11:36 Calinou     both should be .conf settings ideally
11:36 Calinou     with the defaults I put
11:36 Calinou     suggest that in a comment
14:03 kaeza       could somebody test changing camera.cpp:710 to s/100/10000/ or so and test if using this mod works? https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/100008207/sniper.zip
14:03 kaeza       ("works" as in, "the model does not get clipped")
14:13 PenguinDad  kaeza: it seems to work
15:20 kaeza       PenguinDad, thank you. could you comment on #1770 ?
15:20 ShadowBot   https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1770 -- Remove wield item camera clipping.
18:00 OldCoder    Is it correct that MT server has no switch to set _game directory? If so, I will add such a switch now
18:04 Krock       it's possible
18:04 Krock       edit world.mt
18:04 OldCoder    ah, there seems to be an environment variable
18:04 OldCoder    That is convenient!
18:04 OldCoder    MINETEST_SUBGAME_PATH ?
18:04 Krock       ??
18:05 OldCoder    It appears to be just a month old, Krock
18:05 Krock       k
18:05 sfan5       yes
18:05 sfan5       it's new
18:05 OldCoder    https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/1609
18:06 OldCoder    Handy!
18:06 Krock       I don't like it, since it's not in minetest.conf
18:06 Krock       Lel. too late anyway
18:06 OldCoder    I could add a setting that is
18:07 OldCoder    But this will do for now
18:07 kaeza       how is a setting in .conf easier than an env var?
18:08 kaeza       (in cases like these, that is)
18:08 OldCoder    It is not easier; it can be better or worse
18:08 OldCoder    Depends on server framework
18:08 kaeza       well, doesn't matter anyway I guess
18:09 * OldCoder  is separating world directories entirely from server directories
18:10 OldCoder    ShadowNinja seems to do something similar but I will go further
21:05 Sokomine    anyone there? granted, this is more a general mods question, but might also be valid here. so: a variable declared as local in the main body of one mod (*not* inside a function or loop or other statement but rather where it would be a global variable in other languages) - how local is that var? can it be accessed from other mods or not?
21:10 jin_xi      local variables have their scope limited to the block where they are declared. A block is the body of a control structure, the body of a function, or a chunk (the file or string with the code where the variable is declared). from pil
21:22 VanessaE_   in simpler terms, the variable is global and can be accessed from another mod unless you explicitly mark it as local
21:23 VanessaE_   (that's why I hate the PiL.  terrible writing style, for engineers instead of normal people)
21:30 jin_xi      engineers are people
21:34 VanessaE_   indeed they are, but engineers have a habit of using language and writing style that the average person who, while smart on their own, just does not understand.
21:38 Sokomine    jin_xi: say, one mods's init file contains only the line "local bla = true"  - now, will bla be local to *all* init.lua from mt, or only to that particular init.lua file?
21:39 jin_xi      that file only
21:39 Sokomine    ok
21:40 Sokomine    then i wonder why the dye names in the dye mod are made local. that table would be very useful for looping through it inside other mods, and the code even states so. yet it's a local table
21:41 * Sokomine  nods to vanessae - that defining and declaring variables anywhere is just plain annoying when doing something slightly more complex than a basic script
21:41 Sokomine    admittedly we're talking about minetest_game here
21:45 kilbith     in C, does it possible to declare different int variables in the function switch() ?
21:48 ShadowNinja Sokomine: Don't just make it global, namespace it.
21:49 ShadowNinja kilbith: Um, switch is a keyword, not a function.
21:49 kilbith     nope
21:49 kilbith     it's a C function
21:49 Sokomine    ShadowNinja: it is namespaced already. it's a table called "dye" (though what'd help me slightly more in this case is dyelocal)
21:50 ShadowNinja kilbith: No it isn't.  Check some C docs.
21:50 kilbith     ShadowNinja : switch() case x: break;
21:50 kilbith     genuine funtion
21:50 kilbith     function
21:51 ShadowNinja kilbith: No.  If you continue I'll have to assume you're trolling.
21:51 ShadowNinja Sokomine: Make it dye.dye_names or so.
21:52 Sokomine    ShadowNinja: whatever. as long as it's not hidden behind a local statement. whom best to contact for minetest_next/game? pilzadam?
21:54 ShadowNinja Sokomine: Nope, BlockMen or sfan5.
21:55 Sokomine    ah, ok. thanks. i'll best file an issue then
21:56 kilbith     ShadowNinja: I apologize, still a noob in C and I thought that () after switch meant a function.
21:57 ShadowNinja kilbith: NP.  :-)