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03:32 ShadowNinja sfan5: It works fine for me now, but it seems like the script isn't kept running-the server list item doesn't time out.  Your production setup?
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05:16 sfan5 ShadowNinja: uwsgi --logto /var/serverlist/uwsgi.log -s /var/serverlist/uwsgi.log -w server:app --pidfile /var/serverlist/uwsgi.pid started in the dir /var/serverlist
05:17 sfan5 -s /var/serverlist/uwsgi.log -> -s /var/serverlist/uwsgi.sock
05:18 sfan5 Run time of job "purgeOld (trigger: interval[0:01:00], next run at: 2014-06-30 23:32:38.160338)" was missed by 1:49:12.577876
05:18 sfan5 happens when there is no traffic for a specified time
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14:13 Sokomine regarding server quality: there are no objective criteria. perhaps all these kids with questionable tablet clients *want* servers to be the way they change them to. it's just people who want to build who won't be particulary happy
14:14 Sokomine we need better criteria for players to decide what servers they might want to join. the description provided is very short. extending that would be fine
14:16 Sokomine servers could announce weather/to which degree they consider themshelves builderfriendly, how the rules are set (in general), what they aim at
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15:14 ShadowNinja sfan5: Hmmm, that shouldn't happen.  It should run in a seperate thread without being affected by the server usage.  Maybe --enable-threads?  My version of uwsgi doesn't have the -w, --module, or --callable flags, so those are probably deprecated...
15:15 sfan5 uwsgi complains that is is compiled without threads
15:15 sfan5 uwsgi --version -> 2.0.5.1
15:16 ShadowNinja Same version here.
15:17 ShadowNinja uwsgi: invalid option -- 'w'  \n  getopt_long() error
15:17 ShadowNinja After: ~/minetest/master-server $ uwsgi -s /tmp/uwsgi.sock -w server:app
15:20 ShadowNinja Seems I need a python plugin.
15:25 ShadowNinja sfan5: Works here with --plugin python and --enable-threads
15:34 sfan5 ShadowNinja: I restarted uwsgi with --enable-threads, could you try again?
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15:44 ShadowNinja sfan5: Hmmm, if you set port=30000 in minetest.conf and start the server with --port 30001 it sends 30000 to the master server.
15:44 sfan5 that's a bug
15:45 ShadowNinja It isn't deleting itself.  sfan5: Do you have a deletion attempt?
15:46 sfan5 [pid: 11026|app: 0|req: 31/31] 67.241.154.164 () {30 vars in 638 bytes} [Tue Jul  1 11:44:53 2014] GET /announce?json=%7B%22action%22%3A%22delete%​22%2C%22address%22%3A%22shadowninja.minetes​t.net%22%2C%22port%22%3A%2230000%22%7D%0A => generated 17 bytes in 0 msecs (HTTP/1.1 500) 2 headers in 98 bytes (1 switches on core 0)
15:51 sfan5 ShadowNinja: I just watched it work
15:51 sfan5 :)
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16:22 Megaf Hi all
16:22 Megaf I did cd minetest/build/android then make -j 4
16:22 Megaf it begun to compile fine and it stoped with this error
16:22 Megaf http://paste.debian.net/107609/
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16:36 sfan5 Megaf: install the android sdk and files for android api level 10
16:37 Megaf sfan5; how do I define the APIs and Architectures I want to support?
16:38 sfan5 dunno
16:38 sfan5 ask sapier
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16:51 Megaf Now I get other errors
16:54 Megaf Installing more APIs and SDKs
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17:47 sapier megaf what's "emma"?
17:48 sapier hmmm a code coverage tool for java ... that's not supposed to be used
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17:51 sapier but that's not why it fails, MEGAF start sdk/tools/android and installl android-10 for all architectures you want to use
18:03 sapier RealBadAngel: can you have a look at this? https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1436
18:07 sapier RealBadAngel: forget about it that's most likely same issue I fixed yesterday
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18:11 Megaf sapier; it was failing because it used all disk space
18:11 sapier :-)
18:11 sapier that's something I can't really change
18:12 sapier maybe we should add a note about installing correct android version env to readme
18:15 sapier so you've been successfull in between megaf?
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18:20 ShadowNinja dedicated_server_loop() should probably be Server::run().  Thoughts?
18:20 Megaf sapier; I'm not sure, I will use another drive now
18:20 sapier is there any reason to change it? imho both names are equally fin
18:20 sapier e
18:21 Megaf Server::run() looks nicier
18:21 Megaf if that word even exists
18:21 sapier but run doesn't tell what it is
18:21 sapier and I've plans to change that anyway in reasonable time
18:23 sapier server most likely has to be split to sync and async thread in order to prepare mod separation
18:28 ShadowNinja run_forever like Python does (or runForever rather).  Or maybe runUntilKill.
18:28 sfan5 ShadowNinja: did the announce & de-announce work?
18:28 ShadowNinja sfan5: Announce did, but apparently not deanounce.  Did you get the delete message?
18:29 sfan5 can you try again, I'll do a tail -f
18:29 sfan5 also: http://servers.minetest.net/ is broken
18:31 sfan5 [pid: 11026|app: 0|req: 414/414] 67.241.154.164 () {30 vars in 638 bytes} [Tue Jul  1 14:31:00 2014] GET /announce?json=%7B%22action%22%3A%22delete%​22%2C%22address%22%3A%22shadowninja.minetes​t.net%22%2C%22port%22%3A%2230000%22%7D%0A => generated 17 bytes in 0 msecs (HTTP/1.1 500) 2 headers in 98 bytes (1 switches on core 0)
18:31 ShadowNinja Hmmm.  It should exist.
18:33 sfan5 ShadowNinja: I think you forgot to port = int(port) again
18:34 celeron55 why are you changing a perfectly good function name
18:34 celeron55 stop that and do something useful instead
18:35 Nerotic I agree.
18:37 ShadowNinja celeron55: I just fixed a serverlist bug, but I had to add dedicated_server_loop as a friend to Server for it to get the port.  (or I could make it public, or add getters)
18:38 Nerotic is there a list of needed fixes for bugs?
18:39 ShadowNinja sfan5: Ah, yes.  checkRequest does that, but it isn't called on delete because delete needs only a few fields.
18:40 celeron55 ShadowNinja: you know how to easily build huge programs? put everything in a single class of course so that it can read every variable that exists!
18:41 Nerotic celeron55; I know that wasn't directed to me, but thats pretty cool.
18:41 celeron55 Server is already too large, moving anything to it is the worst idea ever
18:47 sfan5 ShadowNinja: fixed it yet?
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18:53 Megaf instructions here doesnt work https://github.com/minetest/master-server
18:53 sfan5 Minetest does not work
18:53 sfan5 those two sentences have the same amount of information
18:53 Megaf ImportError: No module named apscheduler.scheduler
18:54 Megaf # ./server.py
18:54 * sfan5 facepalm
18:54 sfan5 please use your eyes to read the README.md
18:54 * Megaf facekeyboards
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19:21 sfan5 http://servers.minetest.net/ is still broken
19:36 Megaf yep
19:37 Megaf compiling android build, hope it works now
19:38 Megaf sapier; I'd like to know how do I define the android APIs and CPU architectures I want to support
19:39 Megaf /home/megaf/Downloads/adt-bundle-linux-x86​_64-20140624/sdk/tools/ant/build.xml:698: Execute failed: java.io.IOException: Cannot run program "/home/megaf/Downloads/adt-bundle-linux-x86_64​-20140624/sdk/build-tools/android-4.4W/aapt": error=2, No such file or directory
19:39 Megaf What I'm missing now?
19:40 celeron55 has xyz stated why he doesn't host the server list anymore?
19:46 sapier megad have a look at top of makefile
19:46 sapier megaf
19:47 sapier there are arm armv7a mips and x86 configs
19:47 sapier armv7a has issues with sound and isn't significantly faster that's why it's not provided
19:48 sapier can you post the content of path.cfg file located in build/android/
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19:50 sfan5 celeron55: my vps should be ready now; you can change the DNS to those you get when you do "dig meow.minetest.net A" & "dig meow.minetest.net AAAA" at anytime, I configure nginx to answer for servers.minetest.net too
19:51 sfan5 configured*
19:51 celeron55 i can't change the dns
19:51 celeron55 i have already said this
19:51 sfan5 I thought it's your domain
19:51 celeron55 i need to either try to mail freedns.afraid.org's admins or i have to remove minetest.net from freedns.afraid.org and re-add it or something
19:51 celeron55 there is no way to remove approved subdomains
19:52 celeron55 except by the requester
19:52 sfan5 can't you just.. overwrite the entry by creating one yourself?
19:52 celeron55 nope
19:52 celeron55 i tried this a while back; couldn't find any way whatsoever
19:52 sfan5 where is xyz anyway?
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19:53 sfan5 http://servers.minetest.net/ is currently broken too
19:53 sfan5 the last server that announced didn't state a gameid or version
19:53 sfan5 this causes the js to break
19:55 sfan5 the mainmenu list isn't affected by that
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19:55 celeron55 i'll try contacting the dns admins
20:02 celeron55 i'm not very comfortable with these freely registerable subdomains though; i might end up switching the dns to something that doesn't have this functionality
20:03 sfan5 do you have some service in mind?
20:03 celeron55 there's too much risk in ending up with some kind of shit under this domain and getting banned in google's or someone else's scam/malware/whatever listings
20:03 celeron55 well obviously the one i have registered the domain from
20:03 celeron55 (can't recall which one that is; i use many)
20:03 sfan5 it would still be nice for minetest devs/forum mods/wiki mods to be able to register domains .minetest.net
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20:04 celeron55 i will add them manually then
20:04 sfan5 but I'm pretty sure there is no service that allows that
20:04 Megaf sapier; I could, but they are ok
20:04 sfan5 (allow = people doing it themselves)
20:06 sapier are you sure?
20:06 sapier file not found sounds like they aren't
20:07 Megaf /home/megaf/Downloads/adt-bundle-l​inux-x86_64-20140624/sdk/build-The file is where it's supposed to be tools/android-4.4W/aapt
20:07 Megaf oops
20:07 Megaf /home/megaf/Downloads/adt-bundle-linux-x86_6​4-20140624/sdk/build-tools/android-4.4W/aapt
20:07 sapier the W seems quite wrong ;-)
20:08 Megaf Cannot run program "/home/megaf/Downloads/adt-bundle-linux-x86_64​-20140624/sdk/build-tools/android-4.4W/aapt": error=2, No such file or directory
20:08 sapier where is it from?
20:08 Megaf What do you mean?
20:08 sapier I'm quite sure its /home/megaf/Downloads/adt-bundle-linux-x86_6​4-20140624/sdk/build-tools/android-4.4/aapt
20:09 sapier do you build on windows or linux?
20:09 Megaf Debian
20:09 sfan5 *facepalm*
20:09 Megaf sfan5; that's not really helpful
20:09 sfan5 ik
20:09 sapier can you verify it's really in android-4.4W folder?
20:10 Megaf $ file /home/megaf/Downloads/adt-bundle-linux-x86_6​4-20140624/sdk/build-tools/android-4.4W/aapt
20:10 Megaf /home/megaf/Downloads/adt-bundle-linux-x86_64​-20140624/sdk/build-tools/android-4.4W/aapt: ELF 32-bit LSB shared object, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.8, not stripped
20:11 Megaf maybe aapt is telling us there is a file it can't find
20:11 sapier what version of sdk is this?
20:11 Megaf 20140624
20:11 Megaf the latest, is updated
20:12 sapier maybe you shouldn't try bleeding edge not even tested at all
20:12 sapier get one below
20:15 sapier of course you can try to fix it for current version too ;-) but right now only the versions written in README.android are officially supported ;-)
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20:19 Megaf sapier; what sdk file you install?
20:19 sapier I'm downloading your version megaf but I'd suggest using the tested version ... especially as sdk is quite unimportant for minetest
20:20 sapier x86_64 20131030 is written in readme
20:20 sapier there's not much of code using sdk, most is ndk relevant
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20:32 iqualfragile http://sebsauvage.net/paste/?ec62194ee2453c8d​#yabGwvrmutIwOobDu2HBw2APGvUIjZ8GKLKnH3s4agA= i get this error while using pipeworks, why the fuck? its filling up all of my screen
20:33 sapier seems like some message not deserializable
20:33 sapier can you reproduce this?
20:34 sapier it's been mentioned before but there's never been a way to reliably reproduce it
20:35 Megaf sapier; are you downloading the latest sdk?
20:36 sapier just completed I'm not trying, still I'd suggest taking older version as all tests have been done with it
20:37 Megaf Why are you using such an old sdk anyway?
20:38 sapier because june 24th is about 7 days ago ;-P
20:47 sapier megaf that's been the current version when I started  android port, as sdk is almost irrelevant for minetest I didn't bother to even get latest minor ... and the one you try to use is even another major version ;-)
20:48 sapier actually I'm at version 22.6.4
20:51 Megaf ok
20:52 iqualfragile sapier: yes, i can reproduce this, it always happens near an area where a lot of tubes are and a lot of items run in tubes
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20:52 sapier hmm
20:53 asl there was tube when it happen to me too and so did jmf
20:54 asl but don't you think it's highly unlikely that tube is causing this?
20:55 sapier hmm there's no object type e
20:56 PenguinDad there were masses of item-entities around me when this happened to me
20:57 sapier I wonder if it's possible to decode that lua crap ... maybe it's usefull for something
20:57 asl here the issue about it, someone should change the title though, https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1218
21:02 sapier does anyone know what format this is?
21:03 iqualfragile sapier: unicode?
21:03 iqualfragile \u?
21:03 sapier according to code it's supposed to be JSON ... but it doesn't look like json at all
21:04 sapier seems to be always type e
21:05 sapier this is a good example why using enums helps ... definition of types is spread all over minetest ... and I haven't found a type e by now
21:08 sapier http://code.google.com/p/and​roid/issues/detail?id=72493 megaf seems to be a android sdk bug
21:09 sapier update 23.0.0 to 23.0.1
21:10 sapier I'll try if this is the only bug :-)
21:15 sapier nope 23.0.1 works fine for me
21:21 sapier https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1426 forceloaded?
21:22 sapier you mean the forceload feature which was feared to cause bugs and major issues before it's been even added? ;-)
21:32 iqualfragile sapier: yeah, that part of the pipes is in fact forceloaded, but i am near it, too
21:33 iqualfragile (btw: you got some bugreports on mobf)
21:33 sapier Seems like that error is caused by multiple bugs and even design flaws
21:33 sapier Yes I've read them, I'm gonna handle them as of next weekend
21:34 iqualfragile good
21:34 sapier one of the major issues is noone is really responsible for creating and deleting player and playersao ... while it's used by various locations
21:34 iqualfragile factions seemsto be kinda… buggy
21:35 sapier a ugly but working solution might be a smart pointer for playersao doing reference counting
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22:24 Megaf sapier; I tried with another sdk, not the bundle one, almost same error
22:24 Megaf /home/megaf/Downloads/android-sd​k-linux/tools/ant/build.xml:653: The following error occurred while executing this line:
22:24 Megaf /home/megaf/Downloads/android-sd​k-linux/tools/ant/build.xml:698: Execute failed: java.io.IOException: Cannot run program "/home/megaf/Downloads/android-sd​k-linux/build-tools/20.0.0/aapt": error=2, No such file or directory
22:26 Nerotic reinstall java and reinstall SDK.
22:26 sapier come on why to you switch from 23 to 20 instead of using the sdk I suggested 22
22:27 Megaf how do I get an older SDK?
22:27 sapier btw if you really use latest one 23.0.1 it's most likely gonna work
22:27 Megaf nevermind
22:28 sapier try latest
22:28 sapier 23.0.1 works for me
22:28 Nerotic sapier, did you get my message, or are you just busy?
22:28 sapier it's from today ;-)
22:40 Megaf sapier; I'm using 23.0.1
22:41 sapier good ... still not working?
22:41 Megaf That's the one that doesnt
22:41 sapier ok can you post the error again?
22:41 Megaf Maybe I'm just missing something
22:42 sapier I don't think so
22:42 Megaf http://paste.debian.net/107660/
22:43 sapier ok first thin I assume android-sdk-linux does contain folders eclipse and sdk doesn't it?
22:44 Megaf I tried with and without eclipse
22:44 Megaf same error
22:44 sapier next did you make clean prior compiling again because it seems to try to still use 20.0.0
22:45 sapier if you switch sdk's delete paths.cfg
22:45 Megaf Well, I removed the folder and did git clone again
22:45 sapier where does it have that folder from?
22:45 Megaf can it be cleaner than that?
22:46 sapier obviously yes as minetest doesn't have /home/megaf/Downloads/android​-sdk-linux/build-tools/20.0.0 in git for sure ;-)
22:46 sapier ok I'll tall you through
22:46 sapier first do a clean clone of minetest
22:46 sapier next get this one http://dl.google.com/android/adt/ad​t-bundle-linux-x86_64-20140624.zip (guess you already have it)
22:47 Megaf yep, thats the one I have, but I will remove everything and get new again
22:47 sapier and start sdk/tools/android (android sdk manager) and update to 23.0.1
22:48 sapier next go to minetest folder enter build/android
22:48 sapier type make
22:48 sapier answer questions about ndk and sdk ... be carefull question about sdk asks about the subfolder sdk within the package
22:49 sapier you don't have to download the zip again that wont change for sure
22:49 sapier I usually keep the zip files and just delete the extracted copy
22:51 Megaf It doesnt take long to download again
22:51 Megaf not a big deal
22:51 Megaf 15 mbps internet here
22:51 sapier ok
22:52 sapier still keeping those files is usually a good idea as google does best to not give the old versions to you ... if you know the filename you can download them as they're located at same location as latest one
22:52 Megaf bye the way, I'm unemplpyed now, so if anyone wants to contract me in Dublin :P
22:53 Megaf sapier; maybe the zip was somehow corruped
22:53 sapier possible but usually you get an error message on extracting
22:54 sapier and that zip is old version only so you have to update it prior build
22:57 sapier does it work?
22:57 Megaf sapier; so, should I get the adt or just the sdk will be fine?
22:58 Megaf What?
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22:59 sapier I usually get full adt as that eclipse version is quite usefull for debugging
23:00 sapier but sdk should be fine for building
23:06 Megaf right
23:06 Megaf extrating files now
23:07 Megaf android-ndk-r9d-linux-x86_64 and adt-bundle-linux-x86_64-20140624
23:12 sapier guess you did update to 23.0.1 by now?
23:19 Megaf yep
23:19 Megaf should I download SDKs for another APIs?
23:19 sapier api level 10
23:19 sapier everything else is optional
23:20 Megaf Downloading SDP Platform and Google APIs API 10
23:21 Megaf s/SDP/SDK
23:23 Megaf I might have a bug there
23:23 Megaf Stopping ADB server failed (code -1).
23:23 Megaf Unable to run 'adb': Cannot run program "/home/megaf/AndroidADKandSDK/adt-bundle-lin​ux-x86_64-20140624/sdk/platform-tools/adb": error=2, No such file or directory.
23:23 Megaf Starting ADB server failed (code -1).
23:24 sapier adb is not required for make
23:24 sapier what did you call?
23:25 Megaf I'm uploading a screenshot
23:26 Megaf http://www.zimagez.com/zimage​/screenshot-010714-202503.php
23:27 Megaf sapier; for the NDK I'm using /home/megaf/AndroidADKandSDK/android-ndk-r9d/
23:27 sapier maybe you should restart your machine, seems like some old version of adb still running
23:28 sapier sdk and ndk are almost independent
23:29 sapier fuess you could just ignore that error for build too
23:29 Megaf and /home/megaf/AndroidADKandSDK/adt-​bundle-linux-x86_64-20140624/sdk in Please specify path of ANDROID SDK
23:30 sapier I usually append a / but for what I remember that's not necessary
23:30 sapier so your config should be fine now
23:33 sapier what's the new error message?
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23:35 VanessaE sapier: force-loaded by a vmanip I think.
23:35 VanessaE (you can do that if all you do is read the map but never write it, afaik)
23:36 Megaf sapier; same as ever
23:36 sapier by now you had 3 different error messages ;-) can you post the current one?
23:37 Megaf http://paste.debian.net/107668/
23:37 Megaf always complaining about aapt
23:39 Megaf line 698 by the way is                     proguardFile="${out.absolute.dir}/proguard.txt">
23:40 sapier what debian version do you have?
23:41 Megaf Jessie, maybe that's the issue?
23:42 sapier is your shell bash or dash?
23:44 Megaf bash I think
23:45 Megaf well, jus tried in dash to make sure, same result
23:45 sapier should be fine ... there's an error about missing recieps for apk and debug too .. maybe a different make version ... still I'd not expect it to break basic things
23:45 sapier bash is usually better
23:46 Megaf bash and dash gavec the same error
23:47 sapier I'm trying on ubuntu right now
23:48 sapier what command did you enter to build? just "make" ?
23:50 Megaf sapier; make -j 4
23:50 Megaf cd buid/android/ and make -j 4
23:50 sapier try without it's gonna autodetect your cpu number
23:51 sapier but I don't think thats the issue
23:51 Megaf did make clean and make, very same thing
23:52 Megaf sapier; look at this
23:52 Megaf $ file /home/megaf/AndroidADKandSDK/adt-bundle-linux-x8​6_64-20140624/sdk/build-tools/android-4.4W/aapt
23:52 Megaf /home/megaf/AndroidADKandSDK/adt-bundle-linux-x8​6_64-20140624/sdk/build-tools/android-4.4W/aapt: ELF 32-bit LSB shared object, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.8, not stripped
23:52 Megaf 80386, 32 bit
23:53 Megaf for linux 2.6.8
23:53 Megaf that's old stuff
23:53 sapier and?
23:53 Megaf $ uname -a
23:53 Megaf Linux BigSam 3.14-1-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.14.7-1 (2014-06-16) x86_64 GNU/Linux
23:54 sapier I'd still expect it to work
23:55 Megaf sapier; take a look
23:55 Megaf megaf@BigSam:~/AndroidADKandSDK/adt-bundle-linux-x​86_64-20140624/sdk/build-tools/android-4.4W$ ./aapt
23:55 Megaf bash: ./aapt: No such file or directory
23:55 sapier hmm those aren't static but dynamic binarys
23:56 sapier can you try ldd aapt? it's gonna tell you about the libraries
23:56 Megaf not a dynamic executable
23:56 sapier what?
23:56 Megaf [20:56:12] <g00s> Megaf you need the ia32 crap
23:57 Megaf I can't believe in that
23:57 sapier you don't wanna tell me latest android sdk is incompatible to debian :-)
23:57 sapier he might be right about it
23:57 sapier for what I see it's using 32bit dynamic libraries
23:58 Megaf unbelievable
23:58 Megaf I'm not install 32 bit crap here
23:58 sapier well guess you wont be able to build for android in this case
23:59 sapier I need to get some sleep now sorry that I wasn't able to help :-/

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