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celeron55 |
~tell spillz if that doesn't cause a lot of maintenance overhead in the future, it seems fine |
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ShadowBot |
celeron55: O.K. |
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sapier |
http://animalsmod.comuf.com/downloads/Minetest-release.apk optimized release build now ... quite a lot faster not perfect but on my pad at least acceptable |
| 13:48 |
celeron55 |
it crashes at early startup on sailfish |
| 13:49 |
sapier |
can you try once again? I experienced random startup crashes ocassionaly on my pad too ... sometimes I had to reboot it ... but I don't know why this happens ... thought it's because of my cheap pad by now |
| 13:49 |
celeron55 |
well, multiple times already |
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sapier |
ok so it's something different |
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celeron55 |
actually, it doesn't even seem to crash |
| 13:50 |
celeron55 |
this is something weird |
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sapier |
exception handler doesn't look like a crash on android |
| 13:50 |
celeron55 |
yes it doesn't throw anything |
| 13:51 |
sapier |
it does but it's cought ... you should still see some (more or less) telling last message from minetest (if this is your problem) |
| 13:51 |
celeron55 |
message in where? |
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sapier |
logcat? doesn't sailfish have something similar? |
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celeron55 |
it has, but i have been unable to get it to print anything else than crash exceptions |
| 13:52 |
celeron55 |
so if it catches the exception, then no luck |
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sapier |
on some devices they're written to debug.txt too ... for some reason this doesn't work on some android versions |
| 13:53 |
sapier |
ok so your device is one of those who don't print to debug.txt |
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celeron55 |
i haven't looked |
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sfan5 |
sapier: you could to to freopen(stdout, "/sdcard/stdout.txt") to catch a bit more debug stuff |
| 13:55 |
celeron55 |
it seems like it doesn't get to writing to debug.txt |
| 13:55 |
sapier |
actually all of it should be written to debug.txt ... as my device does this properly and those I know who don't don't support developer mode too I didn't look for the bug by now |
| 13:55 |
celeron55 |
the previous debug package does |
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celeron55 |
at least it seems like so, i don't have time for making sure now |
| 13:56 |
sapier |
strange ... did you try to delete/move Minetest folder to force a clean copy yet? |
| 13:56 |
sapier |
I wonder why those things always work for me and fail for first other one :-) |
| 13:56 |
celeron55 |
no, maybe later |
| 13:57 |
sapier |
no problem :) I have to wait for my device to recharge right now too |
| 13:58 |
sapier |
usb connection is only enough to slow down discharge for this device ... well it's a 90 eur only device |
| 13:58 |
sapier |
celeron55 the release package is signed with a self signed key maybe sailfish doesn't allow things like that? |
| 14:00 |
celeron55 |
it seemed to install fine; previously when something had a modified key it didn't install at all and i had to manually erase the previous key from the system |
| 14:01 |
celeron55 |
maybe something postpones the check to runtime, dunno |
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sapier |
ok so this isn't the reason |
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celeron55 |
the android VM in this isn't particularly keen on giving out any kind of usable error messages |
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sapier |
sad |
| 14:01 |
celeron55 |
it just does nothing if it thinks something is wrong 8) |
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sfan5 |
We should use this kind of error handling in Minetest too |
| 14:09 |
celeron55 |
yes |
| 14:09 |
celeron55 |
nobody would ever see any error again |
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celeron55 |
so they couldn't complain about errors |
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ShadowNinja |
Hehe, freeminer has a similar strategy. "Fatal" Lua errors aren't ... fatal. |
| 15:13 |
proller |
99.99%of this errors not fatal |
| 15:14 |
proller |
just "lua = shit" and "developer of mod have curved hands" |
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specing |
lol curved hands |
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iqualfragile |
curved hands? wtf? |
| 16:16 |
specing |
... in soviet russia, bad developers have curved hands |
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spillz |
for Ubuntu users -- currently building new minetest packages for minetestdevs ppa: https://code.launchpad.net/~minetestdevs/+archive/daily-builds |
| 16:28 |
spillz |
once ready, sudo add-apt-repository ppa:minetestdevs/daily-builds; sudo apt-get install minetest |
| 16:28 |
spillz |
enables luajit, leveldb, gettext |
| 16:29 |
spillz |
let me know if anything breaks... |
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spillz |
I will update the "stable" packages later |
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iqualfragile |
spillz: yay, luajit |
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sapier |
what do you think about hiding the key select button on android? there's nothing to select anyway and we'd need some features formspec doesn't have right now to replace the button select dialog by a formspec one |
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sfan5 |
key select button? |
| 19:45 |
sfan5 |
what does that one do? |
| 19:46 |
sapier |
the one showing up the key select/change dialog |
| 19:47 |
ShadowNinja |
Comments on adding "One space after 'if', 'for', 'while', etc." to the code style guidelines? |
| 19:48 |
sfan5 |
There shouldn't be any spaces after if/for/while .. IMO |
| 19:49 |
Kray |
if minetest code doesn't have spaces after keywords in general that would be a silly change |
| 19:50 |
ShadowNinja |
I'm not sure which is more common. |
| 19:50 |
sapier |
I don't think this is important enough to bully coders ... especially as I'm quite sure I'll be the only one bullied as usual |
| 19:50 |
ShadowNinja |
I think older code is missing spaces though. |
| 19:50 |
sapier |
because I'm the only coredev silly enough asking prior merge |
| 19:51 |
ShadowNinja |
sapier: Actually I was going to "bully" someone else. ;-) |
| 19:51 |
ShadowNinja |
But this won't be a major issue, more a suggestion. |
| 19:52 |
sapier |
as I said I'd consider this a nice to have ... maybe add a "suggestions" section to coding style? |
| 19:53 |
proller |
code style must be in astyle config format |
| 19:54 |
sapier |
back to coding ... can someone try to find out where the bug is burried slowing down on vanessae's server spawn |
| 19:55 |
ShadowNinja |
http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7181308/ |
| 19:55 |
ShadowNinja |
I'll add it as a suggestion then. |
| 19:55 |
VanessaE |
s/vanessae\' |
| 19:55 |
VanessaE |
s/vanessae\'s/vanessae\'s vanilla/ |
| 19:56 |
VanessaE |
the other servers can be blamed on nodeboxes et al., but vanilla is an enigma. |
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