Time  Nick          Message
00:54 iqualfragile  Exio4: depends, if it should stop mobs from spawning it shoudbe done serverside (atleast not only client side) then again there shouldnt be any mobs spawning that close to the player
00:56 Exio4         mobs won't spawn near the player, and i still mean the light effect, should be like adding the light value to player's entity, not a hacky invisible torch where-the-player-is
00:56 ShadowNinja   The server can still predict the light, and light should really be client-side.
00:56 ShadowNinja   Of course that makes things like get_node_light difficult...
04:05 VanessaE      23:04:50: ERROR[main]: Map::setNode(): Not allowing to place CONTENT_IGNORE while trying to replace "air" at (-535,-433,-504) (block (-34,-28,-32))
04:05 VanessaE      hand image appears as an entity in the world, this ^^^^ happens when it is disturbed.
04:05 VanessaE      (well maybe it's a node, I can't tell)
04:06 VanessaE      this area is definitely not new either.
04:06 kahrl         that's... creepy
04:07 VanessaE      yeah
04:07 VanessaE      mine's not the only server I've seen this on
04:08 kahrl         is the entity from a mod like wield3d?
04:09 VanessaE      nope
04:10 VanessaE      it's actually in the world, node-sized, and when I disturbed it by making some nearby gravel fall down, it disappeared nd the above message was generated
04:10 VanessaE      (got about ten such messages in total from about three hands)
04:10 thexyz        VanessaE: this happened to my server users, was fun
04:11 thexyz        and yes it disappears when digging under it iirc
04:12 VanessaE      meanwhile, some users are still getting corrupted player textures on my server.  idk if this is the player_textures mod (which is up-to-date), or a bug, or what
04:13 VanessaE      the player texture issue started after the player.lua rewrite
04:15 VanessaE      hands, btw:  http://i.imgur.com/llM4hvW.png
04:15 VanessaE      player skin:  http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/Screenshot%20-%2011142013%20-%2011%3a21%3a32%20PM.png
04:15 VanessaE      only today, it's a different user who ended up with it
04:16 VanessaE      I'm pretty sure that's 'the green guy
04:16 VanessaE      ' wrapped around the standard player model.
04:18 VanessaE      I use the player_textures mod, however both of the players whose skins are corrupted, have no skin even assigned by that mod, and the default SAM II skin still shows up on other players... it's totally random.
05:03 VanessaE      whoa, the player texture just went crazy.
05:04 VanessaE      now some players are coming up WITH 2D SPRITES
05:04 VanessaE      this must be that media fetch glitch
05:04 VanessaE      I wonder if the previous is also due to that
05:05 VanessaE      I asked the user whose skin went 2d to sign out/back in.  It changed from the 0.3.3-esque 2d "green guy" to the 3d model with the green guy wrapped around it, similar to the screenshot.  I did not sign out, mself.
05:06 VanessaE      myself*
05:12 VanessaE      http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/screenshot_24197042.png
05:12 VanessaE      miner_48er captured this right after i signed on.
05:12 VanessaE      media fetch glitch?  wraith reported I looked the same also
07:18 VanessaE      https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7828
07:26 VanessaE      [11-25 02:26] <Menche> hmm, worked fine when i compiled it manually
11:24 RealBadAngel  sfan5, are you here?
12:01 proller       string http://paste.org.ru/?mkiiks
12:03 proller       http://paste.org.ru/?nyg2by
17:15 qwrwed        celeron55: about the "bad allocation" crashes, i tried adding "client_unload_unused_data_timeout=200" to minetest.conf. It postponed the error, but it did not prevent it.
17:22 qwrwed        does anyone know how i can stop minetest crashing with "Some exception: "bad allocation""?
17:35 sapier        qwrwed I guess any known fix for this would've been added ;-)
17:35 qwrwed        damn
17:37 rubenwardy    How active is the lua main menu now?
17:37 sapier        what do you mean with "active"?
17:39 rubenwardy    As in pull requests, how many people working on it
17:39 sapier        async is probably biggest open change
17:40 sapier        and tables of course
17:40 rubenwardy    I would like to finish restructuring it, but I dont want to break anyones work.
17:40 sapier        you will allways break work if you change there ... do you have some docu how you intend to refactor it?
17:41 rubenwardy    https://gist.github.com/rubenwardy/d05011fb13ddb398bae6
17:42 rubenwardy    But it wont be in this week
17:42 rubenwardy    I have other stuff to do.
17:43 sapier        despite of the terribly broken indentions I'd suggest not to define the functions within register tab call ... but it's a personal opinion that this isn't quite easy to read
17:44 sapier        i know indentions are most likely due to gist ;-)
17:45 sapier        I plan to merge texturepack and modstore till end of year so maybe you could skip those
17:46 sapier        but if I rememer correct modstore is already similar to this style
17:46 sapier        +b
17:47 sapier        what about fixing it tab by tab rubenwardy?
17:47 rubenwardy    Thats what I would do
17:48 sapier        I guess subfolders and separate files for each tab wont have much friends?
17:48 rubenwardy    Instead of "no screenshot available", it would be great to have an icon for mods
17:49 rubenwardy    It doesn't have to be separate folders
17:49 sapier        :-) as the name tells it's a spacer my design capabilitys are quite limited so everyone is welcome to create a better one
17:51 sapier        no of course not but if we split to separate files some way to distinguish between scriptapi files and mainmenu files might be usefull
17:58 celeron55     why not define functions within the register tab call?
17:59 celeron55     that's like the best ever way of structuring programs where the only implicit state is a selection between the registered things
17:59 sapier        imho you loose overview what level of code you're atm ... of course not for small functions but we're talking about functions with multiple pages
18:00 sapier        if those functions are small I'm completely with you celeron55 but not for big ones
18:01 celeron55     you can make them small by moving stuff from them to a separate bunch of code that you just call from there
18:01 celeron55     but well yeah, anything sucks if used wrong
18:02 sapier        of course then it's a small function and is perfectly fine as parameter for a call
18:02 sapier        and in this special case there are even more than one big function as parameter for a call
18:03 celeron55     but well, i'm not sure how this should be structured, i'll leave that to someone else 8)
18:04 sapier        btw should (mob) spawning be part of core or a separate mod?
18:05 celeron55     by the way, if somebody feels adventurous, there's this MIT licensed C++/Lua based "cross-platform framework for creative code" which is currently very buggy: http://polycode.org/features/
18:05 celeron55     i have a feeling that minetest could jump onto that sometime in the far-ish future
18:05 celeron55     it's not really usable for now though
18:06 sapier        at least the screenshots look quite promising
18:06 celeron55     they have good marketing 8)
18:07 sapier        looking at apple good marketing might be (almost) enough
18:22 NakedFury     the license seems okay for minetest.
18:22 sapier        *g* NakedFury noone wants to port minetest right now :-)
18:22 sapier        at least I think so
18:22 EvergreenTree There website looks really nice.   It's simplistic.   and I like simplistic
18:22 EvergreenTree *their
18:44 celeron55     but anyway, polycode is a very small project and develops slowly
19:05 iqualfragile  EvergreenTree: do you know what looks nice, too?
19:07 sapier        iqualfragile does mmdb support downloading texture packs via json interface yet?
19:08 iqualfragile  sapier: i do not think so
19:08 iqualfragile  EvergreenTree: this: http://minetest.ru/prowseed-minetest-net/
19:08 EvergreenTree I saw it already
19:08 EvergreenTree That needs to be the main page
19:13 celeron55     it's a huge waste of space and the apple computers and other images in it are ridiculous
19:13 celeron55     polycode's site is good though
19:15 celeron55     i don't really like the current minetest.net though; i might end up switching to a more minimalist layout some day
19:15 celeron55     (altough it's just a dokuwiki template, anyone can make one)
19:19 iqualfragile  i kind of dislkie the polycode page, they just put a ubuntu logo where the linux logo wouldbelong
19:21 celeron55     the linux penguin isn't trendy and flat enough 8)
20:14 proller       best commit of month: https://github.com/proller/minetest/commit/8cebce8d372400aa67a9328b05a80f3e0ac77e8e
20:18 Exio4         proller: crash?
20:19 proller       most of lua mods have bugs
20:20 Exio4         if they crash it means something went wrong
20:22 proller       yes, using mobs is wrong
20:24 sapier        lol ... mobs are just most complex mod out there ;-) they most likely have most bugs too ... but for pure statistical reasons ;-)
20:27 proller       even small mods have fatal errors :(
20:27 sapier        bumpmapping breaks inventorycbes
23:39 ShadowNinja   Comments on minetest_game #201? (Caped player model + Sam II)
23:42 ShadowNinja   Also minetest #1001. (SQLite rollback)
23:47 VanessaE      I'm unclear if sqlite rollback functions 100% properly or not
23:48 VanessaE      I run it here, but I've run into one situation where it seems like it should have recorded an event but didn't.
23:49 celeron55     comments on minetest.net? 8)
23:51 VanessaE      (I say unclear because the person who reported the event may have been in error, sqlite might not have actually been in place, and it was a custom game, so I have no idea whether the wayward objects were removed in a manner that can be recorded)
23:52 pitriss       celeron55: dropdown menus should be more wide..
23:53 celeron55     more wide?
23:53 pitriss       celeron55: in general I like that, but hmm hmm on other hand, people like pictures etc..
23:54 pitriss       celeron55: yes I have in it multiline links..
23:54 celeron55     it works perfectly on my chromium and firefox
23:54 celeron55     so you need to show screenshots
23:55 celeron55     well if someone finds a suitable picture, such can be put there; the old ones didn't really suit that so i just threw them out
23:57 pitriss       http://chytrex.wjake.com/crap/mt-site.png
23:57 celeron55     now that i think of it, there definitely should be a screenshot on the front page
23:57 pitriss       yeah screenshot is good idea
23:58 celeron55     i guess that same bug occurred for you on the old layout?