Time Nick Message 00:29 pitriss I want to ask, is planned to allow more than circa 4k nodes? 00:34 VanessaE yes 00:34 VanessaE if the appropriate people will just fucking commit to it already :) 00:35 VanessaE edit mapnode.h line 46 00:35 VanessaE I set mine to 0x7fff but I personally think a value of 0xc000 or so is appropriate. 00:55 pitriss VanessaE: oh thanks:) 00:56 pitriss VanessaE: btw it is server only setting, right? So it will be possible to connect with standard client too.. 00:57 VanessaE tyes 00:57 VanessaE yes 00:57 VanessaE all modern clients can already handle it 00:57 VanessaE anything pre-July 22 will not work though if you define more than 4k nodes. 00:58 VanessaE (that includes 0.4.7-stable) 01:01 pitriss ok.. i don't really care about stable clients. so it is ok for me:) 01:01 VanessaE ok :) 06:22 celeron55 they replied and seem to be eager to co-operate 06:22 VanessaE who, the guy who did the android port? 06:22 VanessaE sweet. 06:25 celeron55 this is my reply-to-be http://pastebin.com/mWfT4zRq 06:27 VanessaE seems okay 06:28 celeron55 sent 06:50 VanessaE bbl 18:47 sapier wow world isn't as bad as I usually assume it is :-) 18:47 kaeza all you need is love ♥ 18:56 celeron55 they haven't done anything yet 18:56 celeron55 it's just kind words so far 18:57 celeron55 anyone can say kind words 18:58 sapier of course but I didn't even expect an answer so world is yet better than my expecataions :-) 18:59 sapier https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/973 maybe this improves situation too ;-) 19:03 thexyz are you talking about that android port? 19:03 thexyz they put "We'll publish the modification part the minetest engine source code to github soon." in the first post 19:05 celeron55 yeah, saw that 19:29 sapier any comments on 973? 19:32 pitriss guys please when will be pushed patch which increases maximum of nodes? Will this happen before 0.4.8? 19:34 VanessaE this needs to happen before 0.4.8 imho. one-line change that has been well-vetted on two of my servers. 19:34 ShadowNinja sapier: Wouldn't it be better to use VERSION_PATCH, VERSION_EXTRA, and VERSION_STRING; rather than VERSION_PATCH and VERSION_PATCH_ORIG? 19:55 ShadowNinja VanessaE: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/975 19:56 sapier VERSION_EXTRA usually isn't a number 19:56 VanessaE yup 19:57 sapier but file version is required to be numeric that's why I had to add VERSION_PATCH_ORIG 20:00 ShadowNinja sapier: Use VERSION_PATCH and don-t concatenate VERSION_EXTRA to the end of it. 20:00 ShadowNinja s/-/'/ 20:00 sapier that'd change current way of versioning minetest 20:21 ShadowNinja Yes, but I think it would be a better way to do it. 20:22 sapier I don't have a problem to do it that way if there's consens to do so 20:23 ShadowNinja I also opened https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/974 *Waits a few months* 20:24 sapier none seems to want to merge anything right now ... maybe we should start regular meetings to decide what to do with pull requests 20:26 ShadowNinja Good idea. 20:28 VanessaE ping a few random devs :) 20:28 sapier how many core devs are available right now? plz say something like "HERE I AM" 20:30 ShadowNinja Pilz|Adam is. (He signs off when he isn't) kahr| and hmmmn are also usually around about now. 20:30 PilzAdam nice anti-ping 20:30 PilzAdam I will go to sleep soon, though 20:31 sapier still we should talk about some way to get those pull request queue fixed ... either by tagging them 0.4.9 or merge/refuse it 20:33 VanessaE no joke there. 20:33 VanessaE as we say here, shit or get off the pot. 20:34 VanessaE (that goes as much for the folks who wrote patches that need rebasing or maintenance as for the folks who are capable of merging them) 20:34 sapier imho even if a feature is nice and usefull it may be better to be moved to a later version in order to get a 0.4.8 released this year ;-P 20:35 celeron55 here, but going to sleep soon and reading and watching things on the internet until then 20:36 PilzAdam I guess Ill have time at the next weekend 20:36 celeron55 i'm with sapier with that though; there's still a bunch of critical stuff that needs to be merged in order to not create compatibility brainhurt in the future ((some of) proller's stuff) 20:37 celeron55 anything not within that criteria goes to 0.4.9 20:37 celeron55 (and other trivial-ish fixes) 20:39 VanessaE mmh 20:39 proller 3 months for merging... 20:40 proller 1 month broken weather (and peoples use it on servers) 20:40 VanessaE one would think that a "trivial-ish fix" would be quick to be merged in ... that's the sorta stuff you may as well just put in now. 20:40 kahrl me, I'm peeking in occasionally but as I (believe I) said some time ago I have literally no time to code or look at patches 20:40 kahrl I even got another job since then 20:42 sapier kahrl you're not the only one here we only need two developers to sign a patch of I assume even without you there should be enough ppl to do that work 20:43 kahrl yes but it seems most other devs are kinda busy as well 20:43 VanessaE kahrl: s/busy/bored of engine development\?/ 20:43 sapier maybe we should write a list first who is actually available atm? 20:44 kahrl VanessaE: maybe ;) 20:44 PilzAdam VanessaE, as for me I am busy 20:45 sapier do we have a core developer list in wiki? :-) what about adding a table ;-) 20:45 kahrl me being busy is crap because I can't finish the httpfetch or other stuff I have started 20:45 kahrl but not much I can do :/ 20:45 ShadowNinja sapier: https://github.com/minetest?tab=members 20:45 sapier state beeing "available"|"partial available"|"rarely available" and "busy" ;-) 20:46 sapier hmm ok I guess pa is most available of those 20:46 sapier proller and sfan5 are quite active too 20:46 ShadowNinja Most of them are "rarely available". 20:47 sapier yes I'd at best give pa a partly available ;-) no offence pa ;-) 20:47 ShadowNinja Of course it depends what you define those as. 20:49 sfan5 sapier: I'm available 20:50 sfan5 I'll have more time on the weekend after the next weekend+ 20:50 sfan5 s/+// 20:51 sapier so are you ready to do some sorting of pull requests? be prepared some ppl might not be pleased if their feature is moved to 0.4.9 21:00 sfan5 yes 21:06 celeron55 adding or switching core developers is an option too, but i don't want to do that unnecessarily or in such a way that isn't likely to result in anything better 21:15 VanessaE I just wanna be able to stop telling my users "get the latest git to use my servers", at least for a little while. 21:15 VanessaE it would be nice to just say "get 0.4.8-stable". 21:15 VanessaE (given how many people don't even know about git, let alone those who do and refuse it) 21:30 sapier @ALL developers please rebase all pull requests until 1st november 2013 if you want them to have a chance to be merged in this weekends pull merge session ;-) 21:37 nore sapier, I reckon mine are ok currently... 21:39 sapier then you don't have to do anything of course 21:42 VanessaE afaik the one I have pending against minetest_game is good 21:42 sapier it's just a reminder it's useless to check pulls that don't even apply 21:48 ShadowNinja Perhaps we should have a definite time between releases, rather than "Whenever it seems ready." 21:48 sapier a time doesn't help if you find a blocker 1 day before release the release is gone anyway 21:49 sapier imho a feature freeze is best to do 21:51 ShadowNinja sapier: Yes, a feature freeze would happen before, and the release could alwas be delayed a bit. But that way we don't wait a month for a release and then wait half a year. 21:52 VanessaE crap 21:52 VanessaE oops 21:52 sapier after feature freeze a release should happen within reasonable time ... agreed to that 21:53 VanessaE I can agree - provided the feature freeze lasts long enough to actually get the good, hard bufixes inm 21:53 VanessaE bugfixes* 21:53 sapier I think about something like 2-4 weeks between ff and release 21:54 ShadowNinja Alright, what should the spacing between releases be? 21:54 sapier I'd not use a fixed raster for this 21:55 sapier but maybe we could provide unstable weekly/monthly builds 21:55 ShadowNinja 0.4.7 -- authored 5 months ago. How about 3 months? 21:55 VanessaE if I had to suggest, 2 to 3 months maximum 21:56 sapier minetest development seems to be quite seasonal e.g. usually christmas time lots of new features get added 22:00 sapier ok I guess I need to do some work for modstore at least version number of a mod needs to be shown prior download 22:01 ShadowNinja Can a dev(sfan5?) go to https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/856 and check the merge status? (Unfourtunately GitHub doesn't show it to non-devs) 22:14 sfan5 ShadowNinja: 'This pull request can be automatically merged.' 22:15 ShadowNinja Thanks. :-)