Time  Nick      Message
14:06 Warr1024  Anyone take a look at https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/965 yet?
14:23 zat       I just did
14:23 zat       It is a webpage
14:24 Warr1024  hilarious.
14:24 zat       really?
14:24 celeron55 8D
14:26 celeron55 Warr1024: looks good i guess
14:26 Warr1024  thanks.
14:27 Warr1024  Was hoping to get it committed before I ended up having to rebase it over and over :-D
14:28 Warr1024  (or before 0.4.8 gets released with 1+ fewer unofficially-supported platforms)
14:28 proller   no 8)
14:38 celeron55 proller: what no
14:51 Warr1024  hey, whatever happened to Travis CI?
14:58 thexyz    seems to work fine
14:59 thexyz    do you have any problems with it?
15:02 Warr1024  I just noticed that pull reqs used to have a "Passed Travis CI" thing on them shortly after submission, but it looks like that hasn't happened for a while...
15:02 thexyz    oh right
15:03 thexyz    I have no idea why
15:03 Warr1024  is that some third party hosted thing you don't have much direct control over?
15:04 Warr1024  I guess it's possible that there were some API changes or something in github that busted integration.
15:06 thexyz    yes
19:23 PilzAdam  john_minetest, AFAIK we wait for the "blocker" labeled bugs to be fixed and kahrl's httpfetch branch to be merged
19:24 PilzAdam  thats up to RBA, who has a shader branch
19:26 eythen    hello
19:31 eythen    hello dev team :D
19:31 eythen    just a stupid question .... is mysl db on focus for any release of minetest??? or still sticking with sqlite3?
19:31 eythen    mysql
19:32 Warr1024  I thought things were moving more towards LevelDB or something.
19:32 Warr1024  less transactional safety, more speed.
19:32 eythen    ummmm
19:33 eythen    so mysql isnt a choise?
19:33 VanessaE  we have leveldb now.
19:33 VanessaE  and sqlite4
19:33 VanessaE  but not mysql.
19:33 VanessaE  -4
19:33 PilzAdam  eythen, a mysql db can easily be done
19:33 PilzAdam  s/db/backend/
19:33 Warr1024  pretty neat
19:34 eythen    "can eaysely be done" ... if there would be a howto or an administration guide, then i may agree
19:34 Warr1024  I was thinking at one point how I'd love to have a backend that keeps snapshots of old level versions for historical or rollback purposes.
19:35 Warr1024  eythen: sounds more like a c++ coding project to me than just howto material.
19:35 Warr1024  admin would probably be the easy part :-)
19:35 eythen    lets say we use mysql for user & rollback transaction, and the speed is almost 5000 times faster than current sqlite
19:36 PilzAdam  we currently have plans to move all the db backend handling to an external libary; libmtmap
19:37 eythen    PilzAdam: whats the goal of it?
19:37 Warr1024  sounds pretty cool
19:37 Warr1024  that'd make external editors and utilities easier to build.
19:37 PilzAdam  that allows other programs to read (and write) minetest maps easily
19:37 PilzAdam  it would support all the different db backends, so the programs wont have to worry about that
19:38 eythen    the current model to store the informations will still be the same i guess?
20:00 celeron55 PilzAdam: kahrl tried to look into it though and found it somewhat nontrivial to actually implement as a standalone library
20:01 celeron55 so it might not happen anytime soon
20:02 sfan5     so libmtmap should contain MapBlock deserializing too?
20:02 VanessaE  celeron55: wasn't the problem more that it would "pull in half of minetest" or something?
20:02 celeron55 oh and, my opinion about these "real databases" is that mysql sucks, use postgresql
20:02 sfan5     otherwise "that allows other programs to read (and write) minetest maps easily" isn't really true
20:02 sfan5     mysql sucks, yeah
20:02 celeron55 VanessaE: that was the literal comment i guess
20:03 kahrl     it can be done without pulling in everything, but needs more thought about how to design such an api
20:41 pitriss   Hi guys, I got some idea.. Is possible to do that favorite server list will also remember nickname?
20:42 VanessaE  I wish it would remember usernames and passwords :-/
20:42 pitriss   Yeah..
20:47 eythen    celeron55: why you say mysql sucks?
20:54 eythen    when you have 30 servers, then you need also request a serach bar for drill down your favorites ;-)
20:55 eythen    lol
20:59 Warr1024  dialog?  I don't know if I'd want to be nagged on every login.
21:02 eythen    user driven ! not automatically
21:02 eythen    i guess what he ment
21:03 Warr1024  I'd like to have more control over it, but I just don't want to end up making the process of logging into a server potentially MORE work...
21:03 Warr1024  maybe it'd be as simple as adding a "favorite" flag for each server
21:04 Warr1024  then keeping the existing MRU functionality, but letting the "favorites" bubble up to the top if marked by a user
21:04 Warr1024  or maybe a separate tab for "favorites" vs. "recent"
21:04 eythen    its what he say ;
21:04 eythen    :-)
21:05 Warr1024  probably