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ShadowNinja |
Seems there is a bug in the LevelDB pull.: terminate called after throwing an instance of 'DbError' |
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ShadowNinja |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/938 |
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Krock |
Hello, Is it possible to add the Jungle-(pick)axes? |
| 18:02 |
Calinou |
Krock: for what? |
| 18:03 |
Krock |
I said this because it's not possible to make with jungle-wood axes. |
| 18:04 |
Krock |
Or is that already noticed for "that has to be that was"? |
| 18:04 |
Krock |
*way |
| 18:33 |
diemartin |
Krock, it could be done by a mod (BTW this is probably for #minetest ) |
| 18:33 |
Krock |
okay |
| 18:38 |
VanessaE |
whoa, wtf? "t=-32768C, h=-32768%) |
| 18:38 |
VanessaE |
methinks something's ...fucked up there :) |
| 18:41 |
celeron55 |
sounds like finnish winter right there |
| 18:41 |
VanessaE |
haha |
| 18:41 |
celeron55 |
might still be a couple of orders of magnitude off though... |
| 18:42 |
VanessaE |
I'd guess roughly 3 orders :P |
| 18:43 |
proller |
VanessaE, hmmmm's "fix" of weather |
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proller |
its also broke lot of updating temp |
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hmmmm |
those are HEAT_UNDEFINED and HUMIDITY_UNDEFINED |
| 18:43 |
proller |
and maybe your weather disabled |
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hmmmm |
enable weather if you want real values |
| 18:44 |
VanessaE |
er... |
| 18:44 |
hmmmm |
this way, calculating weather is skipped if you don't want it |
| 18:44 |
proller |
hmmmm, need to hide from debug if this values |
| 18:44 |
hmmmm |
yeah I suppose so |
| 18:44 |
VanessaE |
this would make it ... problematic to update plants_lib to use this new system :-/ |
| 18:44 |
proller |
and now loaded area mostly have 0c,0% |
| 18:44 |
VanessaE |
shouldn't they be nil or something? |
| 18:45 |
proller |
hmmmm, maybe not disable calculate if lua asks for temp/humidity ? |
| 18:46 |
hmmmm |
see how would I know that? |
| 18:46 |
hmmmm |
can you enable/disable weather from mods? |
| 18:46 |
hmmmm |
erm, also proller |
| 18:46 |
proller |
by settings |
| 18:47 |
proller |
but it bad way |
| 18:47 |
hmmmm |
to detect if weather is disabled from the client, you need to see if the values are HEAT_UNDEFINED and HUMIDITY_UNDEFINED |
| 18:47 |
proller |
maybe extra flag for lua call like "force_calc" |
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hmmmm |
you can't check the settings |
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hmmmm |
yeah, I can do that |
| 18:47 |
VanessaE |
so if I checked these from Lua, what am I gonna see? -32768, or something more sane? |
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hmmmm |
it's not difficult to add a check to the Lua calls |
| 18:48 |
hmmmm |
to return nil if it's that number |
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hmmmm |
alright, so that's what we'll do i guess |
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VanessaE |
yes |
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proller |
hmmmm, nooo, always calculate and return good value if lua call |
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hmmmm |
alright then, we'll do that |
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PilzAdam |
plants_lib shouldnt use the builtin weather functions when weather is disabled |
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PilzAdam |
since when I disable weather I dont want it to change |
| 19:16 |
proller |
what? |
| 19:17 |
PilzAdam |
AFAIK the heat and humidity changes over time, right? |
| 19:17 |
proller |
yes |
| 19:17 |
PilzAdam |
I dont want that when weather is disabled, so the Lua calls should return a value that is static |
| 19:18 |
PilzAdam |
(i.e. the heat and humidity used in mapgen) |
| 19:18 |
proller |
ibetter to make setting |
| 19:18 |
proller |
and they can return exactly mapgen values |
| 19:18 |
proller |
weather_static |
| 19:20 |
proller |
i can make it in my weater update pull |
| 19:20 |
proller |
but nobody except you will use it |
| 19:21 |
PilzAdam |
hm? why do you want to add another setting for this? |
| 19:21 |
PilzAdam |
what is the point of changing values for heat and humidity if weather is disabled? the general biomes will stay as they are and only things defined by mods will change |
| 19:22 |
PilzAdam |
that would look rather strange when you got plants_libs junglegrass growing on snow |
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proller |
nobody except you will disable weather |
| 19:37 |
PilzAdam |
as long as we have the option to disable weather it should be done in a sane way |
| 19:38 |
proller |
"weather" is various effects like freeze-melt |
| 19:39 |
proller |
heat-humidity is functions |
| 19:39 |
pitriss |
proller: i don't like this also, so PilzAdam will be not alone |
| 19:39 |
pitriss |
but yeah i don't have public server |
| 19:44 |
proller |
or maybe check "weather" value. and if false return static heat-humid value |
| 19:44 |
proller |
okay |
| 19:45 |
proller |
hmmmm, and how to fix 0/0 value, i know only one way - return calc to EmergeThread::Thread() |
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diemartin |
> nobody except you will disable weather |
| 19:52 |
diemartin |
then why make it a setting at all? |
| 19:52 |
diemartin |
just piss off everyone and make it always on |
| 19:52 |
proller |
because PilzAdam will disable it. |
| 19:53 |
diemartin |
I don't use it either |
| 19:54 |
diemartin |
it's a nice feature, don't get me wrong, but it's not like 99.99% of MT users will use it |
| 19:55 |
proller |
98% users use default values |
| 19:55 |
diemartin |
by definition, it will use more CPU time, so low-end servers may want to leave it off |
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prestotron55 |
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prestotron55 |
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ShadowNinja |
prestotron55: Chit-chat in #minetest. |
| 21:31 |
proller |
ALARM!!! NOOB ON -DEV CHANNEL DETECTED!!! autoremove? Y/n: |
| 21:31 |
PilzAdam |
y |
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prestotron55 |
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* proller |
shining |
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proller |
diemartin, weather cpu eating abms enabled only when liquid_finite=1 && weather=1 and liquid_finite will be enabled by default not very soon |
| 22:00 |
harrison |
prestotron55: I feel offended by your recent action(s). Please read http://stop-irc-bullying.eu/stop |
| 22:05 |
ShadowNinja |
harrison: Please stop posting that/disable the relevant client script. |
| 22:05 |
harrison |
well he started it |
| 22:05 |
harrison |
but roger that |
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ShadowNinja |
harrison: But three times? And after he has left? |
| 22:08 |
harrison |
i only posted one line in this channel at 17 08 33 |
| 22:08 |
harrison |
not three lines |
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harrison |
but you are correct -- it was after he left |
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harrison |
my error |
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harrison |
and i already said |
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harrison |
roger that |
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harrison |
to your chastisement |
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