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IRC log for #minetest-dev, 2013-09-11

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06:10 celeron55 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/916
06:10 celeron55 i think this was not thought nearly enough
06:14 celeron55 i think none of them are more correct than the other; the previous one was perfectly right if you think of it as padding
06:14 celeron55 the new one is right if it's margin, not padding
06:14 celeron55 (to speak in html/css terms)
06:16 celeron55 i think we need to reserve a right to change this anytime when more fancy styling of the hotbar is enabled
06:16 celeron55 because that gives a basis for making any kind of rational decision
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13:01 PilzAdam thexyz, I have created pages for all the old minetest.env: methods in the dev wiki; can you remve the redirect to EnvRef for them?
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14:25 kahrl I'd like to get #884 merged so I can work more freely on mainmenu stuff
14:25 kahrl https://github.com/sapier/minetest/commit/f1f34e5e37f5da9fd514b6db15a21201fb924014#L0R258 I'd remove this line and use "local screenshotfile,error =" on the next
14:26 kahrl what is the error = nil for in line 274?
14:28 kahrl can somebody explain what this function does? https://github.com/sapier/minetest/commit/3e242b7cc368aa1aec591431a9cc6fa08d6f3708#L0R209
14:28 thexyz my guess: it wraps long lines
14:28 thexyz it should be rewritten, I think
14:29 thexyz http://lua-users.org/wiki/StringRecipes check "Text Wrapping" section
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14:29 kahrl yeah that looks much better
14:30 thexyz better ask sapier though, I'm not sure what does it do
14:31 thexyz why's there so much code?
14:31 thexyz https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/884/files#L1R283 you don't need table.insert here
14:32 thexyz https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/884/files#L1R291 you don't need ",1" here
14:32 thexyz https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/884/files#L1R280 random hardcoded values are bad
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14:33 thexyz this https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/884/files#L1R265 can be replaced by "or"
14:34 kahrl yeah or just ipairs for the second thing you mentioned
14:34 thexyz ipairs is even better, right
14:35 PilzAdam https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest/commits/slabs and https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest_game/commits/slabs
14:35 kahrl I wonder if the splittext thing could be avoided entirely by merging the textarea wordwrap patch
14:35 thexyz I dunno, the whole formspec menu code seems to me like a total mess
14:35 PilzAdam ^^ this is a better way to achieve what #915 does
14:36 kahrl thexyz: yeah it seems hard to get used to
14:36 thexyz like here, https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/builtin/modmgr.lua, crazy random codestyle
14:36 thexyz anyway, should stop whining right now
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15:41 thexyz how about we bundle more games with the next release?
15:41 PilzAdam that would be good
15:47 proller +1
15:48 thexyz okay, now anyone volunteering to maintain those extra games?
15:49 john_minetest Some people are hosting games.
15:50 john_minetest A technic game including all dependencies like mesecons and so on would be cool.
15:50 john_minetest Also vanessae-game or similar popular server games could be included.
15:51 ShadowNinja technic_game is quite heavy, but vanessae_game?
15:53 ShadowNinja Maybe release a light version without all the games.
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16:10 john_minetest So basically vanessae_lite=minetest_game...
16:10 john_minetest vanessae is one of the heaviest modded servers aviable.
16:11 john_minetest technic, glooptest, mesecons, all that stuff.
16:11 john_minetest I love it. I am frequently doing stuff on VanessaE's servers.
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18:09 kahrl wonder if I should simply add the table support now and mess with builtin later
18:09 kahrl guess I'll do that
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18:29 kahrl https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/920
18:33 thexyz woo, don't we already have color parser somewhere?
18:34 thexyz only one table per formspec?
18:34 kahrl I guess the color parser could be written simpler
18:34 kahrl don't know if we have one already
18:34 kahrl you can have multiple tables
18:35 thexyz hm
18:35 thexyz > displays cells as defined by the last tablecolumns[]
18:35 kahrl yeah you can do tablecolumns[...] table[...] tablecolumns[...] table[...]
18:35 thexyz oh, last before table definition
18:35 kahrl maybe "previous" is better
18:36 thexyz could you add some examples (with screenshots) to dev wiki?
18:37 thexyz (after merging it, of course)
18:37 kahrl yeah
18:38 kahrl maybe simply those from tabletest
18:38 thexyz I doubt anyone's going to review this so just merge it maybe?
18:39 thexyz do those include all kinds of tables?
18:39 kahrl I'll wait a bit
18:39 thexyz right, right
18:39 kahrl well they include every column type, but not every corner case I guess
18:41 thexyz that's nice then
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21:23 VanessaE re: including more games with minetest, I'm not against adding mine, but as thexyz once said, mine kinda lacks direction
21:23 VanessaE (I still haven't settled on a clear path I want it to take)
21:26 VanessaE right now, it's basically "here's a whole bunch of shit to build with.  Now go out and mine for the stuff you need to make it."
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