| Time |
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| 00:03 |
ShadowNinja |
sfan5: Yes, although I noticed that world loading time, especially "Item definitions..." Took a lot longer on your branch. But maybe that is annother commit, will test. |
| 00:25 |
Exio4 |
what way would you suggest for sharing 'configs' or things like zoom_fov to the client? PilzAdam suggested TOCLIENT_FLAG u16 command, u16 len, s8[] name, s8 bool would be useful for the future |
| 00:28 |
ShadowNinja |
Nope, it is definitely the leveldb patch that is slowing down loading. |
| 00:29 |
ShadowNinja |
Exio4: See how Taoki did it for the movement patch. |
| 00:31 |
Exio4 |
it is adding a dedicated command for just that |
| 00:31 |
Exio4 |
i don't think adding one for something like zoom_fov could be useful |
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| 01:25 |
ShadowNinja |
Hmmm, if you add a TOCLIENT_CONFIG or some such other things should be changed to use it, but that means a protocol bump. |
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proller |
cloud_height to ^ config |
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Dan68 |
celeron55: you on Hyperboria yet? |
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| 06:09 |
kahrl |
sfan5, why is leveldb bundled in #907? |
| 06:09 |
sfan5 |
it was so in the original commit and.. |
| 06:10 |
sfan5 |
we normally have the library bundeled with minetest |
| 06:10 |
sfan5 |
s/the library/libraries/ |
| 06:10 |
kahrl |
we don't bundle irrlicht, luajit, freetype, gettext, ... |
| 06:11 |
kahrl |
leveldb isn't supported on windows, so that leaves unix(like) platforms where you can get leveldb easily from the package manager |
| 06:11 |
sfan5 |
what about compatibility between leveldb versions? |
| 06:12 |
kahrl |
that is of course a concern |
| 06:12 |
kahrl |
how often does the leveldb API change? |
| 06:12 |
sfan5 |
dunno |
| 06:15 |
kahrl |
generally (imho) bundling should be a last resort when we either (a) have to make sure the code is compiled with specific options, e.g. lua, (b) modify something, e.g. jthread, |
| 06:15 |
kahrl |
or (c) it's required on windows but there is no ready binary distribution of it anywhere |
| 06:16 |
sfan5 |
if we add windows support for leveldb we surely need some additional files |
| 06:16 |
sfan5 |
(which would need to be included with leveldb) |
| 06:17 |
kahrl |
perhaps try to get the modifications upstream |
| 06:17 |
kahrl |
as in leveldb upstream |
| 06:18 |
sfan5 |
I don't think the leveldb authors would accept boost as a dependency just for windows support |
| 06:19 |
kahrl |
ah, I thought somebody was working on a boostless version? |
| 06:20 |
sfan5 |
there are some online but... |
| 06:20 |
sfan5 |
the first I tried didn't compile with mingw |
| 06:20 |
sfan5 |
and then I kinda gave up |
| 06:20 |
kahrl |
probably just a missing _WIN32_WINNT definition |
| 06:21 |
kahrl |
that's what causes most errors |
| 06:22 |
sfan5 |
there were problems with _snprintf_s not being available using mingw |
| 06:22 |
kahrl |
hmm |
| 06:23 |
sfan5 |
here is the patch http://sfan5.duckdns.org/0001-Make-LevelDB-work-on-Windows.patch |
| 06:24 |
sfan5 |
applies to HEAD^ of sfan5/minetest leveldb branch |
| 06:25 |
kahrl |
don't have a cross compiling environment here so I can't help much, sorry |
| 06:26 |
sfan5 |
all you need is the mingw toolchain and some libraries |
| 06:26 |
kahrl |
it seems that code defines _snprintf_s, strange |
| 06:27 |
sfan5 |
I added the _snprintf_s function |
| 06:27 |
sfan5 |
it calls _vsnprintf |
| 06:30 |
kahrl |
I assume that works with mingw? what other errors are there? |
| 06:32 |
sfan5 |
if you apply that patch it compiles but doesn't work |
| 06:32 |
sfan5 |
I suspect because of _snprintf_s |
| 06:33 |
kahrl |
hmm |
| 06:33 |
kahrl |
I guess you could replace WinLogger::Logv with an empty function just to see if that fixes it |
| 06:33 |
kahrl |
it's just a logger after all |
| 06:34 |
sfan5 |
yes, I will try that |
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sfan5 |
nope doesn't fix it |
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| 09:44 |
kahrl |
woo, finally got around to doing something again |
| 09:44 |
* kahrl |
is almost done with formspec table: https://github.com/kahrl/minetest/commit/c8a944a54a16288589a5c3c2a8fecbd8822f39cf |
| 09:44 |
kahrl |
preliminary docs: http://paste.dy.fi/zZD |
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| 11:30 |
Exio4 |
o.O |
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| 12:16 |
kahrl |
does anybody have good icons we could use in the main menu for creative/damage/pvp flags? |
| 12:16 |
kahrl |
also checkbox icons (the checked and unchecked states could be taken from irrlicht but a "half-checked" one would be nice as well) |
| 12:21 |
kahrl |
16px would be best I think |
| 12:23 |
kahrl |
a hearth could show whether fire is enabled :P |
| 12:23 |
nore |
kahrl: I have a suggestion for formspecs |
| 12:25 |
nore |
btw, have you made any screenshots of formspec table? |
| 12:25 |
kahrl |
I was thinking maybe a paint brush for creative? But a block might be good too |
| 12:26 |
kahrl |
nore, not yet |
| 12:26 |
kahrl |
I could though |
| 12:26 |
nore |
and a suggestion for formspecs, since you seem to be working on them: |
| 12:26 |
nore |
allow formspecs to provide their own key handling if they want |
| 12:27 |
PilzAdam |
tetris! |
| 12:27 |
nore |
that could be useful for that ;) |
| 12:27 |
PilzAdam |
that would probably lag a lot on servers |
| 12:28 |
nore |
you're probably right |
| 12:29 |
nore |
perhaps after the client-side modding API then... (in a few years :p) |
| 12:31 |
kahrl |
simple screen shot that shows off the align and color features: http://i.imgur.com/o8XfB2q.png |
| 12:32 |
kahrl |
uses the tablecolumns "color;text,align=left;text,align=center;text,align=right" |
| 12:32 |
kahrl |
john_minetest: ooh that was quick :) |
| 12:33 |
nore |
kahrl, have the lines limited length? (labels have, which is a problem...) |
| 12:33 |
kahrl |
they don't but there is no horizontal scroll bar (yet anyway) |
| 12:34 |
nore |
good... |
| 12:36 |
kahrl |
thanks! |
| 12:37 |
kahrl |
I'll try it out and upload a screenshot |
| 12:40 |
PilzAdam |
maybe the textures should be darkened instead of missing if the setting is not set |
| 12:43 |
kahrl |
http://i.imgur.com/IPYJ7Xu.png |
| 12:43 |
kahrl |
I'll try the darkening thing as well |
| 12:47 |
kahrl |
I thought about it but there might not be enough screen space |
| 12:48 |
sfan5 |
^ |
| 12:51 |
kahrl |
well we might have something to do for 0.4.9 ;) |
| 12:59 |
kahrl |
screenshot with darkened icons: http://i.imgur.com/bqcTSZ2.png |
| 13:01 |
kahrl |
no |
| 13:01 |
kahrl |
I could add it but would that look good? |
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Prestotron562 |
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| 13:03 |
kahrl |
too much blinking going on there, I can't concentrate on anything ;) |
| 13:04 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 14:41 |
thexyz |
guess it may be a good idea to enable droidsans fallback font for chinese/japanese languages |
| 14:45 |
celeron55 |
kahrl: the initial table with icons looks surprisingly good |
| 14:47 |
thexyz |
and since irrlicht gui sucks it's the only way to get japanese/chinese symbols |
| 14:50 |
thexyz |
I host it |
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| 14:51 |
thexyz |
ask proller |
| 14:52 |
PilzAdam |
john_minetest, better to do that directly in http://minetest.net/servers |
| 14:53 |
PilzAdam |
servers.minetest.net is ugly and requires 3rd party scripts |
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| 15:10 |
ShadowNinja |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/856 <-- PilzAdam? sfan said it was good. |
| 15:13 |
PilzAdam |
why an example in lua-api.txt? |
| 15:16 |
PilzAdam |
maybe pass the return value of is_protected() to the on_violation() callbacks? |
| 15:16 |
PilzAdam |
so mods can pass strings or something |
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| 15:20 |
thexyz |
there was one |
| 15:20 |
sfan5 |
^ |
| 15:21 |
ShadowNinja |
PilzAdam: The callbecks get the same parameters as is_protected, they can generate and data they need. |
| 15:21 |
ShadowNinja |
callbacks* any* |
| 15:21 |
thexyz |
probably |
| 15:22 |
ShadowNinja |
I thought of adding is_protected(pos1, pos2, name) |
| 15:22 |
ShadowNinja |
Perhaps is_protected(name, pos1[, pos2]) |
| 15:23 |
PilzAdam |
ShadowNinja, whats pos2? |
| 15:23 |
ShadowNinja |
PilzAdam: For checking a area for protection. |
| 15:24 |
thexyz |
john_minetest: that may be a good idea then |
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| 15:27 |
thexyz |
yeah, I remember that, it was lagging a lot |
| 15:27 |
thexyz |
still, was fun |
| 15:28 |
Exio4 |
setup one! :P |
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Exio4 |
21 german time? UTC+2? |
| 15:33 |
Exio4 |
ask him, maybe it is UTC |
| 15:34 |
ShadowNinja |
john_minetest: It will return if a player has access to the entire area. |
| 15:35 |
sfan5 |
Exio4: its german time (UTC+2) |
| 15:35 |
ShadowNinja |
So two protections, one by the player will return false, one area intersecting with the provided area owned by annother player will return true. |
| 15:35 |
Exio4 |
k |
| 15:36 |
PilzAdam |
I prefer CEST instead of "german time", just to confuse everyone </offtopic> |
| 15:36 |
Exio4 |
ART > * |
| 15:42 |
thexyz |
using gettext is suffering |
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| 15:46 |
thexyz |
still cannot find how to get language it's using |
| 15:46 |
thexyz |
okay, let' |
| 15:46 |
thexyz |
let's just parse header entry |
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Prestotron562 |
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thexyz |
lol |
| 15:50 |
thexyz |
Prestotron562: hello |
| 15:50 |
Prestotron562 |
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Prestotron562 |
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| 15:51 |
thexyz |
Prestotron562: please, no offtopic in this channel |
| 15:52 |
Prestotron562 |
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Prestotron562 |
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| 15:53 |
proller |
john_minetest, possible anything, src of master look in utils/master |
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| 16:07 |
thexyz |
lol, please, review https://github.com/xyzz/minetest-ru/commit/02089a77bd17c9255b358ce7cfd8f246cb71e57c |
| 16:08 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 16:08 |
thexyz |
if you know C++ then for sure |
| 16:08 |
Calinou |
then no |
| 16:09 |
thexyz |
Prestotron562: also, please, try to leave less useless messages in this channel or you'll be kicked |
| 16:09 |
thexyz |
the part starting from 1406 is the most fun |
| 16:10 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 16:10 |
thexyz |
then feel free to |
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| 16:10 |
Calinou |
you don't |
| 16:11 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 16:11 |
Calinou |
I don't think so |
| 16:11 |
Prestotron562 |
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Prestotron562 |
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Prestotron562 |
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| 16:12 |
thexyz |
Calinou: Prestotron562: please stop offtopic |
| 16:12 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 16:12 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 16:12 |
Exio4 |
thexyz: hax |
| 16:13 |
thexyz |
Exio4: I'd like to know how to do it properly |
| 16:13 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 16:15 |
sfan5 |
thexyz: wouldn't s/setenv("LANGUAGE", /setenv("LANG", / be better? |
| 16:15 |
thexyz |
sfan5: LANGUAGE has higher priority |
| 16:15 |
sfan5 |
if you say so |
| 16:15 |
thexyz |
gettext docs says so |
| 16:16 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 16:17 |
thexyz |
Prestotron562: http://translate.minetest.ru/projects/minetest/core/ |
| 16:17 |
sfan5 |
"" std::string language = "en";"" shouldn't this be C instead of en ? |
| 16:18 |
thexyz |
sfan5: no, it's only used to determine if we should use fallback font |
| 16:18 |
thexyz |
sfan5: en is fine and easier to understand |
| 16:18 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 16:19 |
sfan5 |
.. |
| 16:19 |
sfan5 |
that commit seems fine |
| 16:19 |
sfan5 |
(except that it is a bit hacky to read the gettext files) |
| 16:20 |
thexyz |
it's too hacky I'm afraid |
| 16:20 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 16:21 |
thexyz |
in how it detects if it should use fallback font, in how it detects current language |
| 16:21 |
Exio4 |
you can code a mod for it and move this #minetest |
| 16:21 |
thexyz |
but it's cross platform! (should be) |
| 16:21 |
thexyz |
sfan5: can you test a win build? |
| 16:21 |
thexyz |
sfan5: with CJK |
| 16:21 |
Zeg9 |
Prestotron562: maybe another kind of biome. |
| 16:22 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 16:23 |
Zeg9 |
I was thinking of swamps (flat ones) |
| 16:23 |
thexyz |
this is offtopic, but I'd like a lot of "random" biomes, like Tetris biome, 180° rotated biome, glitchy biome, biome with modified gravity and so on; imagine having all those in a single world |
| 16:23 |
sfan5 |
^ |
| 16:24 |
thexyz |
that'd be fun |
| 16:24 |
Prestotron562 |
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Prestotron562 |
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| 16:24 |
sfan5 |
Prestotron562: could you please "switch off" your I-act-like-I-was-in-the-minetest-core-dev-team-mode |
| 16:26 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 16:27 |
celeron55 |
thexyz: the hacky parts of your commit need comments in the code |
| 16:27 |
Exio4 |
// GETTEXT BLACK MAGIC? |
| 16:27 |
celeron55 |
doing all that stuff is quite arbitrary otherwise |
| 16:27 |
thexyz |
okay |
| 16:28 |
kahrl |
lol Exio4 |
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Prestotron562 |
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| 16:30 |
sfan5 |
no |
| 16:30 |
sfan5 |
.. |
| 16:30 |
sfan5 |
a standard API for that would be better |
| 16:31 |
kahrl |
john_minetest: a->b means (*a).b |
| 16:31 |
sfan5 |
(dereferencing pointer) |
| 16:32 |
sfan5 |
a pointer to a class which has a function |
| 16:33 |
kahrl |
s/pointer to a class/pointer to an object of a class |
| 16:33 |
thexyz |
celeron55: https://github.com/xyzz/minetest-ru/commit/f9d38f991267a553185d2d8a712d68bfaf2c8b3a |
| 16:34 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 16:34 |
sfan5 |
because you know Korean? sure.. |
| 16:34 |
thexyz |
wait, do you know korean? |
| 16:35 |
sfan5 |
translating != putting the text into google translate |
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Prestotron562 |
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| 16:36 |
Exio4 |
don't do that |
| 16:37 |
celeron55 |
what the fuck |
| 16:38 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 16:38 |
sfan5 |
john_minetest: When the object contrustor is called; Depends on where it is defined; ""<type of object> <name_of_array>[];"" |
| 16:38 |
sfan5 |
Do _NOT_ use google translate |
| 16:38 |
sfan5 |
even if someone can "check" it |
| 16:38 |
sfan5 |
if you know someone who knows korean tell him to translate it himself |
| 16:39 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 16:39 |
sfan5 |
because it produces text with broken grammer |
| 16:39 |
Exio4 |
gammer break texts produced it with |
| 16:39 |
PilzAdam |
thexyz, its too hacky IMO |
| 16:40 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 16:40 |
PilzAdam |
why dont we simply use a default font that supports all these characters |
| 16:40 |
PilzAdam |
+? |
| 16:40 |
Prestotron562 |
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Prestotron562 |
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| 16:40 |
sfan5 |
Prestotron562: if you have him right there he can translate it directly instead of first using google translate and then he fixes it |
| 16:41 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 16:41 |
thexyz |
PilzAdam: because such font doesn't exist |
| 16:41 |
sfan5 |
thexyz: http://pastie.org/private/un9lpi2waizgslmdtqrw |
| 16:41 |
kahrl |
thexyz: couldn't the fonts we use be combined? |
| 16:42 |
Prestotron562 |
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Prestotron562 |
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| 16:43 |
thexyz |
kahrl: I'm not sure about that; I've not found an easy way to combine them, only way to do that is to open both fonts in font editing software and copy characters by hand; and then you lose kern so mixture of, say, english and japanese would probably look terrible |
| 16:44 |
kahrl |
perhaps someone could hack something with http://sourceforge.net/projects/fonttools/ |
| 16:45 |
thexyz |
sfan5: shiit |
| 16:46 |
thexyz |
kahrl: okay, let's say we wait a week and if no one hacks anything with it we'll merge my code |
| 16:51 |
kahrl |
fontforge has a merge command, not sure what it does to kerning info |
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thexyz |
sfan5: https://gist.github.com/xyzz/d44ac3208d7613fea477 |
| 16:58 |
thexyz |
kahrl: that may work |
| 16:58 |
thexyz |
kahrl: how about licensing stuff? |
| 17:14 |
IceCraft |
hello |
| 17:17 |
kahrl |
thexyz: the licenses are probably not compatible, so let's forget about it |
| 17:17 |
thexyz |
IceCraft: hello |
| 17:17 |
thexyz |
kahrl: okay |
| 17:18 |
thexyz |
the proper way is to support multiple fonts (like browsers do), but we're dealing with Irrlicht (and I'm not sure if anything actually supports it) |
| 17:18 |
thexyz |
kahrl: by the way, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arial_Unicode_MS seems to be quite universal |
| 17:18 |
thexyz |
but you see the problem |
| 17:19 |
kahrl |
well the thing that supports truetype is in our codebase (CGUITTFont) so we could modify it |
| 17:19 |
thexyz |
yeah, but are you seriously going to invest time in that? |
| 17:19 |
kahrl |
not me anyway |
| 17:20 |
thexyz |
I'm not going to do that either |
| 17:20 |
kahrl |
I think your patch is best at the moment |
| 17:20 |
thexyz |
okay, now to get somebody to test on windows |
| 17:22 |
thexyz |
also, when are we releasing? |
| 17:22 |
PilzAdam |
really soon (TM) |
| 17:23 |
kahrl |
is the use of gettext("") to get the header documented? |
| 17:23 |
thexyz |
yes |
| 17:23 |
thexyz |
I put in the link |
| 17:24 |
thexyz |
though this link doesn't tell anything |
| 17:26 |
kahrl |
I was wondering because my gettext(3) manpage says under BUGS: When an empty string is used for msgid, the functions may return a nonempty string. |
| 17:26 |
kahrl |
and being a bug it might get fixed |
| 17:26 |
thexyz |
> This also has another advantage, as the empty string in a PO file GNU gettext is usually translated into some system information attached to that particular MO file, and the empty string necessarily becomes the first in both the original and translated tables, making the system information very easy to find. |
| 17:26 |
thexyz |
http://www.gnu.org/software/gettext/manual/gettext.html#MO-Files |
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thexyz |
I'm not sure why shouldn't it work |
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kahrl |
I'm sure it works but I'm a bit worried it might silently stop working |
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| 17:39 |
thexyz |
so you think they'll modify gettext to return empty string for "" disregarding actual translation, right? |
| 17:40 |
thexyz |
I dunno, that just seems very wrong to me |
| 17:41 |
kahrl |
well they listed it as a bug |
| 17:42 |
thexyz |
at the same time they write it's not in docs |
| 17:42 |
thexyz |
> the empty string in a PO file GNU gettext is usually translated into some system information |
| 17:42 |
kahrl |
what does "usually" mean? |
| 17:43 |
celeron55 |
and "some" 8) |
| 17:43 |
kahrl |
then again it's been working that way for years and probably unlikely to change |
| 17:43 |
celeron55 |
it's really dumb that there's no other way of knowing the language though |
| 17:43 |
thexyz |
this dispute leads nowhere |
| 17:44 |
celeron55 |
(yes, obviously this is just time-wasting) |
| 17:46 |
kahrl |
I guess a completely safe way to do it would be is_yes(gettext("this_language_requires_a_fallback_font")) |
| 17:47 |
celeron55 |
maintaining those magic translations could be a pain |
| 17:48 |
thexyz |
kahrl: I love this; any reason not to use? |
| 17:48 |
kahrl |
well what celeron55 said |
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kahrl |
but it might be manageable |
| 17:49 |
thexyz |
I don't see how's that a pain |
| 17:49 |
kahrl |
will weblate users know what to do with it? |
| 17:51 |
thexyz |
I can add a check for that |
| 17:51 |
thexyz |
so only values "Yes" and "No" (and empty perhaps) are allowed |
| 17:51 |
kahrl |
ah, perfect |
| 17:51 |
celeron55 |
if it's viable for you, then go ahead |
| 17:53 |
thexyz |
can I just append it to *.po or will it be overwritten by updatepo? |
| 17:53 |
thexyz |
oh, meh |
| 17:53 |
thexyz |
how will it sort them |
| 17:53 |
thexyz |
is the question |
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thexyz |
and how to name it |
| 17:55 |
kahrl |
sort what? |
| 17:57 |
thexyz |
strings in .po, though it doesn't matter |
| 17:57 |
thexyz |
I'll just call it "fallback_font" |
| 17:58 |
kahrl |
perhaps need_fallback_font to make it clear it's a yes/no thing |
| 17:58 |
celeron55 |
overally this is ridiculous though; i wonder if there would be a usable technology without this problem |
| 18:01 |
thexyz |
kahrl: "needs" maybe? |
| 18:01 |
thexyz |
celeron55: there's gnu unifont but it looks ugly |
| 18:01 |
kahrl |
thexyz, sure |
| 18:01 |
celeron55 |
how does openttd's chat do this? or does it? |
| 18:01 |
thexyz |
but the idea is great |
| 18:06 |
thexyz |
font is the least issue; IME is what makes it all fun |
| 18:07 |
celeron55 |
does any IME thing work with MT? |
| 18:08 |
celeron55 |
my guess: no, and never will |
| 18:09 |
thexyz |
dunno, but probably no |
| 18:09 |
thexyz |
there was something for Irrlicht but I think it's windows only |
| 18:11 |
thexyz |
https://github.com/xyzz/minetest-ru/commit/e44f02156f16f1d453926acd5e99b6ed43c2e251 |
| 18:11 |
thexyz |
sfan5: can you test it now? |
| 18:11 |
sfan5 |
yes |
| 18:12 |
thexyz |
ok, do please |
| 18:18 |
thexyz |
sfan5: plz |
| 18:18 |
sfan5 |
yes |
| 18:18 |
sfan5 |
there are like 3 people that currently want me to do anything |
| 18:18 |
sfan5 |
*something |
| 18:19 |
sfan5 |
compiling 30%.. |
| 18:19 |
thexyz |
meh forget about other ones |
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sfan5 |
it does compile |
| 18:26 |
thexyz |
does it work? |
| 18:26 |
thexyz |
with different locales |
| 18:26 |
thexyz |
err, languages |
| 18:28 |
sfan5 |
in case somebody has a windows machine to test it: http://sfan5.duckdns.org/minetest-0.4.7-4a22034-win32.7z |
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sfan5 |
(i have a windows machine too) |
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sfan5 |
thexyz: "Font file was not found. Using default font." |
| 18:44 |
ShadowNinja |
Wow, the pipeworks code is about as bad as the technic code, if not worse. |
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ShadowNinja |
(Next mod I rewrite?) |
| 18:45 |
nore |
ShadowNinja, why? |
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nore |
and what part of it? |
| 18:45 |
thexyz |
ShadowNinja: did you rewrite technic? |
| 18:46 |
nore |
he is rewriting it |
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nore |
https://github.com/RealBadAngel/technic/tree/rewrite |
| 18:46 |
ShadowNinja |
nore: Everything, the indentation, the break_node function for the node breaker should be about five lines, not 50. |
| 18:46 |
nore |
node_breaker -> almost copy-pasted from technic |
| 18:47 |
ShadowNinja |
No spaces around '=', I have to manually call tube_scanforobjects instead of having it called for nodes in the tubedevice group. |
| 18:47 |
nore |
and the indentation in what part? item transport or flowing logic? |
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PilzAdam |
is this relevant to Minetests core development? |
| 18:48 |
ShadowNinja |
Oh, oops, I thought this was #minetest. |
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nore |
sorry, I thought too |
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thexyz |
sfan5: that's strange, does this happen all the time? |
| 19:01 |
sfan5 |
yes |
| 19:03 |
thexyz |
hm.. |
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thexyz |
why would it stop working for non-fallback font |
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sfan5 |
thexyz: trying to open DroidSansFallbackFull.ttf says it is not a valid font file |
| 19:04 |
sfan5 |
no |
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sfan5 |
I mean with fallback font |
| 19:09 |
thexyz |
huuh |
| 19:13 |
thexyz |
someone broke it in a really bad way |
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thexyz |
http://i.imgur.com/sraMHTz.png |
| 19:14 |
PilzAdam |
clean GUI |
| 19:14 |
PilzAdam |
I like it |
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thexyz |
it *is* upstream |
| 19:16 |
PilzAdam |
also there is no disatvantage for blind people |
| 19:16 |
sfan5 |
^ |
| 19:16 |
thexyz |
it does, it works fine with english/german/etc |
| 19:16 |
thexyz |
and this is russian |
| 19:17 |
thexyz |
haha your fun |
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thexyz |
(not) |
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nore |
A question: is that a good idea?: |
| 19:18 |
nore |
<Peacock> speaking of nodeboxes, what if we could define each box using vertices instead? (with helpers for the old method) |
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thexyz |
sfan5: can you bisect that for me? <3 |
| 19:21 |
thexyz |
so that I know who to shout at |
| 19:23 |
sfan5 |
eh |
| 19:23 |
sfan5 |
can't you do that yourself |
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sfan5 |
I'm busy atm |
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thexyz |
okay |
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nore |
has anyone been able to find where the entity duplication comes from? |
| 19:25 |
thexyz |
okay, so I just have to run buildwin32.sh |
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thexyz |
wait, no, I should figure out why doesn't fallback font work |
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sfan5 |
if you need my compliation script ping me |
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thexyz |
sfan5: okay, looks like the font is wrong |
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ShadowNinja |
nore: It seems to happen when mapblocks are repeatedly loaded and unloaded. But I don't think anyone knows exactly what causes it or they probably would have fixed it. |
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sfan5 |
thexyz: I have downloaded the DroidSansFallbackFull.ttf from the android repo on github but the main menu still has no labels |
| 19:39 |
thexyz |
sfan5: yes, but that's unrelated issue |
| 19:39 |
thexyz |
I've forcepushed fixed font |
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nore |
could it be related to minimum saved movement, with an object at the limit between two blocks? |
| 19:43 |
thexyz |
I think it can be merged now |
| 19:44 |
thexyz |
https://github.com/xyzz/minetest-ru/commit/09c5d1b9a837f0ddc94e920293d7fa4aaad4e6c9 |
| 19:46 |
sfan5 |
I'll test that |
| 19:47 |
sfan5 |
"This branch is 1895 commits ahead and 8 commits behind master" ummmm |
| 19:50 |
ShadowNinja |
thexyz: fallback_font_size isn't in minetest.conf.example. |
| 19:50 |
thexyz |
sfan5: yes, behind minetest-ru's master |
| 19:51 |
thexyz |
ShadowNinja: fixed |
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nore |
how do you trigger the entity duplication bug? |
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ShadowNinja |
nore: Place some items on a server, wait a day or so, check them. |
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sfan5 |
s/wait a day or so/let the area with the items unload and load the area again/ |
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ShadowNinja |
It usually takes more that one load/unload. |
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sfan5 |
yes |
| 20:21 |
sfan5 |
thexyz: I don't think it is supposed to look like this http://i.imgur.com/CF47tXu.png |
| 20:22 |
nore |
could someone add that line 1860 of environment.cpp of a server please? http://pastebin.com/Mnt7mMX0 |
| 20:22 |
nore |
and tell me if that code is ever executed |
| 20:23 |
nore |
because I reckon it is perhaps the origin of entity duplication |
| 20:23 |
thexyz |
sfan5: as I already said it's a different issue |
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sfan5 |
isn't it supposed to use the fallback font? |
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thexyz |
sfan5: I think it does that |
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thexyz |
sfan5: but fails to render symbols for some other reason |
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thexyz |
to verify that try downloading older build, changing font with droidsansfallback and running ja locale |
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thexyz |
(rename "ja" to "en") |
| 20:25 |
thexyz |
and open an issue if it verifies |
| 20:27 |
sfan5 |
well then it can be merged |
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thexyz |
does the issue reproduce with old build? |
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* Prestotron562 |
commits to less hacky builtin "See your own player" by PilzAdam |
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proller |
Prestotron562, please, close your irc client |
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Prestotron562 |
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| 21:18 |
proller |
no time to explain, just close now |
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Prestotron562 |
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| 21:19 |
proller |
you cant stop until reach 18+X , where X= stupidity |
| 21:19 |
proller |
years |
| 21:19 |
proller |
your X is huge |
| 21:19 |
proller |
and, please, close your irc client now |
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Prestotron562 |
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Prestotron562 |
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ironzorg |
I want to know what mine is |
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ironzorg |
how do I do |
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celeron55 |
i'm going to start handing out +qs to people who only speak offtopic here |
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PilzAdam |
you want to force people to go to #minetest first? |
| 21:31 |
celeron55 |
no |
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celeron55 |
i'm not on #minetest and don't expect anyone else to have to do that either |
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