Time  Nick         Message
14:04 RealBadangel hi all
20:47 proller      MOBF: no pathfinding support/ no path found directly setting targetpos as path
20:47 proller      trying to find path to: (27997.201171875,960,28356.216796875)
20:47 proller      load: 3.15  cmd: minetestserver 34521 [running] 438.58r 353.60u 2.11s 100% 114568k
20:47 proller      100% cpu and no responce
21:37 Taoki        http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=97642#p97642 ---- https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/799 Fixed the cloud color issues and all other problems reported
21:37 Taoki        (intensity and fog color != problems, they're intentional)
21:51 hmmmm        taoki, do you need your villages to be spawned completely predictably?
21:51 Taoki        hmmmm: They're spawned using a fixed formula which arranges everything
21:51 Taoki        Though the order is random
21:52 hmmmm        right, nevermind, you can pass your own rotation parameter
21:52 hmmmm        i have ROTATE_0, 90, 180, 270, and ROTATE_RAND which randomly chooses the rotation
21:55 Taoki        Sure. The rotation parameter is fully needed in my case
21:56 Taoki        Also because I spawn buildings with the structure manager, where I want to manually specify a rotation from the formspec (like I do currently)
21:56 Taoki        Will wait for the rotation parameter to be in upstream to fix it
21:56 hmmmm        to make mods not break, i made the last parameter of place_structure (rotation) optional
21:57 Taoki        Sure
21:57 Taoki        Is that upstream?
21:57 hmmmm        about to be in a minute
21:57 hmmmm        i am writing the documentation
21:57 Taoki        ok. I'll adapt my mod do it soon
22:08 hmmmm        https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/dd6d1afd8e0ded779fd004f4e83888985cba2102
22:47 Taoki        Awesome, thanks!
22:48 PilzAdam     hmmmm, we could use the decoration system to spawn grass, flowers, papyrus and cacti when indev mapgen places them too
22:48 PilzAdam     *in minetest_game
22:53 hmmmm        yeah, we could
22:56 Taoki        PilzAdam: I fixed the cloud colors and transition ranges for the point-colored fog like you suggested
22:57 PilzAdam     Taoki, have you seen my latest comment?
22:57 Taoki        Ah, I will
23:02 Taoki        PilzAdam: Replied. That's not something I believe can be fixed, but I don't think it's an issue more than 5% of the players would notice and more than 5% of those 5% would care about :P
23:03 PilzAdam     oh, I am one of the 0.25%
23:05 Taoki        Well, what fix would you suggest? If I use pitch to cut the color blending, it would be very ugly and obvious that when you look up the fog goes away
23:05 Taoki        I'd say that's something we can ignore. Since logically I see no solution
23:06 PilzAdam     maybe make it like the clouds were before: independent from the yaw
23:07 Taoki        Hmm... so mix both colors when looking up?
23:07 Taoki        Would still look weird, but it's a possibility
23:08 VanessaE     can you reduce the intensity of the effect as you approach the center/"top" of the sky?
23:10 Taoki        VanessaE: If I do that it will look wrong
23:10 VanessaE     hrm
23:10 Taoki        Instead I could blend both the sun and moon colors together when you look up
23:11 Taoki        And maybe disable them as you look down
23:20 Taoki        So I can try to fix this tonight, and not spend 2 hours on figuring out a simple line of code: What would be a one line formula to make a number (ranging from 0 to 1) center toward 0.5 as another number goes from 0 to 1?
23:21 Taoki        x (the first number) is the color blend value. y (the pitch) is the second number. When y is 0, x must be uninflienced (goes from 0 to 1 freely). As y gets to 1, x must be slowly constrained toward 0.5. When y is 1, x is 0.5
23:21 Taoki        eg: At 0.5 y, x would only range between 0.25 and 0.75 where when y is 0 it ranges between 0 and 1
23:22 PilzAdam     x += (0.5-x)*y; ?
23:22 Taoki        I'll try it
23:22 Taoki        As simple as it is, it would have taken me at best one hour to figure it out, and since I'm going to bed soon I'd rather post the code tonight
23:25 Taoki        Works, thanks. Will try to optimize it a bit and push again
23:27 Taoki        Seems to look fine when looking up
23:55 hmmmm        68 pull requests
23:55 hmmmm        has everybody just given up?
23:56 hmmmm        am i the only person on this project?  if i don't do pull requests, nothing ever gets done?
23:59 hmmmm        looking at https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/782 - the results are good, but it's too slow.  you do *NOT* put Settings calls in such a hot function.  NO.
23:59 hmmmm        fix that, and it'll be okay.