Time  Nick         Message
00:50 sapier       ok the new main menu is almost completed ... only thing missing are those just added "gamemode buttons" ... are those really necessary? what happens if there are more games than room for icons?
00:53 Jordach      ehm, no ones thought of this for the cpp one ye
00:53 Jordach      yet*
00:54 sapier       I know still there'll never be a mainmenu fitting all your requirements as they are conflicting in way to many points ... if you want to fullfill at least most of it the only way is adding a scriptable mainmenu
01:40 sapier       https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/677 is still waiting for comments/merge/drop
01:44 sapier       ok there's a comment ... there's no chance it'll rebase to master until it's merged to one single commit ... even then git doesn't handle that much changes very vell
01:49 sapier       I did not do those things in lua because I tried to reduce direct metatable usage to get chance to add more security features later
01:50 Jordach      again with the security
01:50 Jordach      we dont need it
01:50 Jordach      if someone makes a bad mod, the community will flag it
01:50 sapier       calm down it's not changing anything
01:55 sapier       if you want to hack clients use mainmenu formspec I'm not gonna add any security features there ;-P
02:17 sapier       ok after reading irc log of yesteray morning 3 times I hope I now understood what went wrong ... forget about my comment about rebasing too  :-)
02:19 sapier       Still imho kahrl's aproach using lua metatables is wrong as it's not adding any feature while adding requirement to have metatable access enabled in lua. Sandboxing lua doesn't make any sense with metatables available.
02:21 sapier       at least not for the time compatibility is required ... as security features aren't very loved maybe grace time for dropping those might be gone before adding them
03:39 kahrl        sapier: you want to restrict builtin from having metatable access?
03:50 kahrl        any objections to this? https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/707
09:33 sapier       kahrl: with current scriptapi implementation restricting metatable access isn't possible. If we want to sandbox lua this is a no go. That's (one of the major reasons) I tried to avoid adding new situations where metatable access is required. But looking at the opposition arising once the word "security" is written I start to doubt that ANY security feature will ever be added. As of code style pespective imho your suggestion is even way
12:21 sapier       ... more clean. I wonder why my last sentence was cut.
12:22 RealBadAngel propably you reached characters limit per message
12:23 sapier       maybe
12:23 sapier       didn't even know there is a message limit
12:24 RealBadAngel its supposed to be 512 chars
12:30 sapier       what? is this sms or irc?
19:06 sapier       https://github.com/sapier/minetest/commits/next_gen_main_menu after adding menu bar support (game buttons) the luaformspec main menu now supports everything the oldfashined menu did ... and much more