Time  Nick         Message
00:32 RealBadAngel thexyz, ive finished polish translation
02:02 hmmmm        you know it might be neat if you could separate log files, e.g. --verbosestream verbose.txt --errorstream debug.log, et cetera
02:34 RealBadAngel request: logging, writing gigabytes of data to disk, shall be disabled by default
02:34 RealBadAngel and enabled only by devs when they need it
02:41 RealBadAngel im gettin now 50+ fps instead of 25-30 (with 16x/32x textures), vanessaE have 40-45 instead of 25 (with 256x textures)
02:41 VanessaE     with a view range of 80, in my case.
02:49 hmmmm        i guess i could do that really quick.  not right now though.
02:50 RealBadAngel imho conf option should be best option
02:50 hmmmm        obviously
02:51 hmmmm        i'll add a config entry called "log_level" which will be a number representing how much is logged (0 = no logging, 1 = errors, 2 = action, 3 = info, 4 = verbose, 5 = dstream)
02:52 RealBadAngel flawless
02:53 hmmmm        you know, when i started out playing minetest, the log file was my biggest frustration, and it kept making things from already slow to even slower to the point where i couldn't place blocks
02:53 hmmmm        as you just saw in the main channel it's the same for a lot of people
02:54 RealBadAngel yeah
02:54 RealBadAngel thats why i started to test it
02:55 RealBadAngel if i could see a few fps change, i would just say its not worth it
02:55 RealBadAngel but when i see 100 to 180% fps change....
03:03 hmmmm        you know i'm noticing that most of the time, you acquire the two envlocks in emergethread immediately
03:03 hmmmm        maybe it's a different story once you have a lot of clients on your server
03:04 hmmmm        when it is locked, though, it takes mostly either 33ms or 400ms for either
03:04 hmmmm        that's 400ms of sitting there and doing nothing like a shmuck
03:04 Exio         well, i keep getting "virtual irr::u32 TextureSource::getTextureId(const std::string&): Assertion 'result.key == name' failed." any ideas?
03:05 * hmmmm      hides
03:05 Exio         and it worked now!
03:05 Exio         weird
03:10 RealBadAngel you can back hmmm
03:10 RealBadAngel lol
04:17 hmmmm        celeron55, i have a question that you probably you have the answer to:  are _any_ other lua callbacks done while envlocked aside from on_generate in EmergeThread?
04:17 hmmmm        i am pretty sure add_node is safe
04:26 hmmmm        well doesn't look like it.
04:26 hmmmm        ahh this is all the more reason why i'd like to make a voxelmanipulator for lua and pass that to on_generate right after makeChunk instead of inside a lock
17:46 doserj       comments about https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/pull/459 (doxygen support)?
17:48 thexyz       i don't think that's really needed, we have dev.minetest.net
17:48 Calinou      ^
17:49 darkrose     doxygen! kill it with fire!
17:49 Calinou      https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/pull/455 <= and this?
17:49 * Calinou    upvotes darkrose.
17:52 doserj       http://dev.minetest.net/Engine_documentation <- explicitely asks for doxygen comments :)
17:54 doserj       And I don't think you want to document individual functions on dev.minetest.net
21:27 hmmmm        lel le upvote
21:27 hmmmm        the person who said that was MarkTraceur
21:27 hmmmm        he may want doxygen comments scattered throughout the code, I certainly don't
21:27 hmmmm        keep our rivers^H^H^H^H^Hcode clean
21:28 marktraceur  hmmmm: celeron55 suggested something automatic as opposed to a wiki
21:28 hmmmm        i vote against it
21:29 hmmmm        automatic documentation doesn't really help, we can figure what a function does, what it takes and what it returns from its name and arguments
21:29 hmmmm        the sort of comments we need are the ones that aren't so obvious that actually help people understand how it works or what quirks it has
21:57 proller      freebsd port updated to 0.4.4
22:00 hmmmm        have you taken over port maintainer status?
22:02 proller      no i find alive maintainer
22:05 proller      very close to me
22:08 doserj       hmmmm: what exactly are you voting against? Having comments in the source code that describe what functions do, or aving excessive doxygen markup in the source code, or having a "make doc" target using doxygen?
23:49 hmmmm        avoiding doxygen
23:57 doserj       what does that mean?