| Time |
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| 00:25 |
Taoki |
doserj: I think the leaves in that screenshot look way more realistic than blocks. They sorta look like leaves and plants more. Only problem would be that if you sit under the tree and look up, you'd notice they are hollow inside |
| 00:26 |
Taoki |
There would need to be some way to also draw a third plane horizontally, ad the middle of the node. So looking from below or above the tree doesn't seem weird |
| 05:59 |
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| 07:43 |
Vogarth |
Hello, I think I'm at the final issue building on Mac. I've hit an internal Undefined symbol. |
| 07:43 |
Vogarth |
mapgen::find_ground_level_from_noise(unsigned long, irr::core::vector2d<short>, short) |
| 07:43 |
Vogarth |
referenced in map.cpp. |
| 07:44 |
Vogarth |
also mapgen::block_is_underground(unsigned long, irr::core::vector3d<short>) from same file. |
| 07:44 |
Vogarth |
I've tried casting, but I can't seem to get it. |
| 07:45 |
Vogarth |
get it to link - that is. |
| 08:33 |
celeron55 |
Vogarth: sounds like you have a somehow screwed version |
| 08:34 |
Vogarth |
I've started to find the problem, seems like there's a bunch of "#if 0" and "#if 1" in mapgen.cpp that has removed too much. |
| 08:35 |
Vogarth |
Does 0.4.4 build on other platforms as-is? |
| 08:35 |
celeron55 |
of course it does |
| 08:36 |
celeron55 |
the current implementation of mapgen::find_ground_level_from_noise is at mapgen.cpp:1101 |
| 08:36 |
celeron55 |
there are many commented-out versions too, don't get distracted by them |
| 08:37 |
Vogarth |
I'll revert to stock, I don't think I made any changes but it could be something related to the build platform. |
| 08:37 |
celeron55 |
is mapgen.cpp included in your build? |
| 08:38 |
Vogarth |
yes. |
| 08:38 |
celeron55 |
then you must have some kind of a borked version of the sources |
| 08:38 |
Vogarth |
the object file is linked, but these two methods are missing. |
| 08:40 |
Vogarth |
c0ed11847ce1cb14ee02f91d8a90a640c34298ec mapgen.cpp |
| 08:40 |
Vogarth |
from the 0.4.4 tarball. |
| 08:41 |
Vogarth |
yep. problem shows up with stock file. |
| 08:43 |
Vogarth |
This is x86_64 Mac 10.6.8, xcode 4.2 |
| 08:43 |
Vogarth |
Something is preventing those two functions from being defined. |
| 08:46 |
Vogarth |
find_ground_level_from_noise is at only defined at line 1054 and 1267. Where did 1101 come from? |
| 08:47 |
thexyz |
apparently, c55 is talking about latest git master |
| 08:47 |
thexyz |
https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/blob/master/src/mapgen.cpp#L1101 |
| 08:47 |
Vogarth |
the 1054 has a #if 0 around it. |
| 08:51 |
Vogarth |
1267 might also, but it's nested with some #if 1's (which would be broken if true), checking now. |
| 08:55 |
Vogarth |
there's an If 0 at 323 that blocks a bunch of if 1s. |
| 08:58 |
Vogarth |
hm. 1267 is outside of all nested #if blocks by my count. |
| 08:59 |
Vogarth |
I'll test this by putting some junk before it |
| 08:59 |
Vogarth |
yes, it's compiled, yet not seen by other code. |
| 09:00 |
Vogarth |
Here's the full error text... |
| 09:00 |
Vogarth |
Linking CXX executable ../bin/minetest |
| 09:00 |
Vogarth |
Undefined symbols for architecture x86_64: |
| 09:00 |
Vogarth |
"mapgen::find_ground_level_from_noise(unsigned long, irr::core::vector2d<short>, short)", referenced from: |
| 09:00 |
Vogarth |
ServerMap::findGroundLevel(irr::core::vector2d<short>) in map.cpp.o |
| 09:00 |
Vogarth |
"mapgen::block_is_underground(unsigned long, irr::core::vector3d<short>)", referenced from: |
| 09:00 |
Vogarth |
ServerMap::initBlockMake(mapgen::BlockMakeData*, irr::core::vector3d<short>) in map.cpp.o |
| 09:00 |
Vogarth |
ld: symbol(s) not found for architecture x86_64 |
| 09:00 |
Vogarth |
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status |
| 09:03 |
Vogarth |
I'll try the git mapgen.cpp just in case. |
| 09:06 |
Vogarth |
treegen.h missing, this might be messy. |
| 09:07 |
Vogarth |
hm. same two missing functions, plus now make_tree and make_block. |
| 09:08 |
Vogarth |
bottom line issue remains. Any recommendations? |
| 09:09 |
Vogarth |
would it be better for the dev group if I use the latest git to port to mac? |
| 09:10 |
Vogarth |
git-tree that is. |
| 09:11 |
Vogarth |
You are still looking for a mac maintainer? |
| 09:15 |
sfan5 |
yes |
| 09:18 |
Vogarth |
Let me get this working, then I'm happy to share my build notes and patches. There's a few code cleanup issues I've already done, plus a bunch of warnings I haven't got to yet. |
| 09:27 |
thexyz |
yes, better build latest git |
| 09:32 |
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| 09:34 |
SiegeWizard |
idea: web form to edit .po files and save them so that the comunity can contribute without installing poedit and learning to manage catalogs |
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| 09:36 |
thexyz |
hm.. i can set up weblate instance for that |
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| 09:38 |
thexyz |
celeron55: do you approve? |
| 09:48 |
celeron55 |
launchpad has been set for that already |
| 09:48 |
celeron55 |
there is a huge number of outdated translations in there because i haven't been able to update the template |
| 09:49 |
celeron55 |
https://translations.launchpad.net/minetest-c55 |
| 09:50 |
celeron55 |
so i think somebody should start managing that and finding out how to use it |
| 09:54 |
SiegeWizard |
im revising the spanish translation |
| 09:54 |
thexyz |
hm.. well, weblate can commit into git repo |
| 09:55 |
thexyz |
and that launchpad translation doesn't seem to be synchronized with repository |
| 09:55 |
celeron55 |
it should be able to, but i wasn't able to do that |
| 09:55 |
celeron55 |
i once tried to set it up but launchpad is horrible to use |
| 09:56 |
celeron55 |
(i wasn't the one who initially put it there) |
| 09:56 |
thexyz |
that can be another reason to migrate from it |
| 09:56 |
thexyz |
http://demo.weblate.org/ |
| 10:03 |
SiegeWizard |
+1 a weblate si sabes como sincronizarlo con git |
| 10:03 |
SiegeWizard |
sorry, i mean: +1 to weblate if you know how to synchronize it with git |
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| 10:12 |
celeron55 |
thexyz: if you think it is a good idea, i guess it is |
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| 10:31 |
celeron55 |
this is done for now: http://dev.minetest.net/Core_Architecture |
| 10:34 |
Vogarth |
git version with my mac patches ends up with same issues - two undefined functions same as above with 0.4.4 release. |
| 10:34 |
Vogarth |
mac patches allow for external lua and jthread, built x86_64, dylib. |
| 10:35 |
Vogarth |
nothing that would change anything related to mapgen or map.cpp. |
| 10:36 |
celeron55 |
pastebin all the patches |
| 10:37 |
Vogarth |
pastebin? |
| 10:38 |
celeron55 |
are you new to the internet? 8) |
| 10:38 |
Vogarth |
not an irc regular. |
| 10:38 |
celeron55 |
well, upload somewhere so people can look, for example pastebin.com or gist.github.com |
| 10:39 |
Vogarth |
ah. I'll need to set up something. |
| 10:41 |
Vogarth |
Is pastebin for text only? |
| 10:42 |
celeron55 |
yes; pastebins are for handily showing/sharing longish texts |
| 10:43 |
Vogarth |
main script - instmtg - http://pastebin.com/w7jh8yRB |
| 10:44 |
Vogarth |
patch 1 of 4 - patch.FindJthread.cmake - http://pastebin.com/EtgqgX8q |
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| 10:46 |
Vogarth |
patch 2 of 4 - patch.src.CMakeLists.txt - http://pastebin.com/R3vBvbqr |
| 10:47 |
Vogarth |
patch 3 of 4 - patch.debug.h - http://pastebin.com/BaTHyra3 |
| 10:47 |
Vogarth |
patch 4 of 4 - patch.ban.h - http://pastebin.com/Fh6XZpNt |
| 10:48 |
celeron55 |
and this applied to 0.4.4 and current master fails in the way mentioned before? |
| 10:49 |
Vogarth |
same approach, same results. |
| 10:49 |
Vogarth |
on mac, I have scripts that install irrlicht and jthread ... |
| 10:50 |
celeron55 |
i can't find anything that could cause the described error |
| 10:50 |
Vogarth |
macports install of lua is 5.1.4 which works (5.2.1 is not compatible) |
| 10:51 |
Vogarth |
Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's a Mac thing, not something I've done. |
| 10:51 |
celeron55 |
what compiler to you use? |
| 10:51 |
Vogarth |
Which is why I'm here. I can usually fix library issues. |
| 10:51 |
celeron55 |
do* |
| 10:51 |
Vogarth |
xcode 4.2, g++, |
| 10:51 |
celeron55 |
what version of g++ is that |
| 10:52 |
Vogarth |
i686-apple-darwin10-llvm-g++-4.2 (GCC) 4.2.1 (Based on Apple Inc. build 5658) (LLVM build 2336.1.00) |
| 10:53 |
Vogarth |
I'll try xcode 4.4 on lion tomorrow to see if anything changes. |
| 10:53 |
Vogarth |
The approach I |
| 10:53 |
Vogarth |
was going for should also still work on linux and windows. |
| 10:53 |
celeron55 |
i really have no idea what's going on 8) |
| 10:54 |
celeron55 |
a broken compiler could explain things, but that doesn't seem too likely |
| 10:55 |
celeron55 |
hmm, could it be this http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=28360 |
| 10:55 |
Vogarth |
I agree. |
| 10:57 |
Vogarth |
I tried "using namespace mapgen" in map.cpp, and also casting all the arguments but no luck. |
| 10:57 |
Vogarth |
The fact it fails exactly the same way with two code bases is interesting. |
| 10:59 |
Vogarth |
Do you know how many unique characters a function must have? I noticed you have find_ground_level_[something else]. |
| 11:00 |
Vogarth |
doesn't explain block_is_underground. hm. |
| 11:01 |
Vogarth |
nope, in git version there's only find_ground_level_from_noise. |
| 11:02 |
Vogarth |
I'll check with a few programming friends, will email if success. |
| 11:04 |
Vogarth |
The other avenue - I noticed the link command had a bunch of redundant arguments - I'll try to strip that down and see what happens. |
| 11:04 |
Vogarth |
Do you have a Mac? |
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Vogarth |
I have to retire, but thanks for putting this project out there! |
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markveidemanis |
c56 |
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markveidemanis |
hi |
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| 14:42 |
Progers |
Hi |
| 14:59 |
SiegeWizard |
hi |
| 14:59 |
celeron55 |
https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/pull/366 |
| 14:59 |
celeron55 |
PilzAdam, thexyz: is there any known reason to not merge this? |
| 15:00 |
celeron55 |
obviously the default public server list needs to be moved at some point, but currently it's not so important |
| 15:01 |
thexyz |
>The default url is mesecons.net/server.list |
| 15:01 |
celeron55 |
it's maintained by jeija, isn't it? |
| 15:02 |
VanessaE |
yes |
| 15:03 |
celeron55 |
or, thexyz: can you make a page on servers.minetest.ru that outputs serverlist's format? |
| 15:03 |
celeron55 |
it would be more than good |
| 15:04 |
thexyz |
there's no such thing as server description ATM, anyway, ok, will do |
| 15:05 |
celeron55 |
also, i think a fifth field could be added to the serverlist format, being the home page of the server |
| 15:05 |
celeron55 |
so things reading the list can show a link if they are capable of such |
| 15:07 |
celeron55 |
the code in minetest doesn't require any changes for that; it will just ignore it |
| 15:07 |
PilzAdam |
celeron55, looks ok to me, I have tested it several times and reported the bugs directly to Jeija |
| 15:07 |
Progers |
minetest.ru?) |
| 15:07 |
Progers |
celeron55 you know Russian? |
| 15:07 |
celeron55 |
no |
| 15:08 |
Progers |
Hm |
| 15:08 |
Progers |
On what servers do you play? |
| 15:09 |
celeron55 |
i haven't really played in years |
| 15:09 |
celeron55 |
minetst, that is |
| 15:09 |
celeron55 |
minetest* |
| 15:09 |
celeron55 |
i'm just keeping stuff going in here 8) |
| 15:10 |
Progers |
I know that you play on minetest) |
| 15:10 |
Progers |
But i am asking on what servers do you play (server ip) |
| 15:11 |
Progers |
) |
| 15:11 |
Progers |
Sorry for bad English! |
| 15:12 |
thexyz |
celeron55: so, name/address/port/description/url? or just replace description with url? |
| 15:14 |
sapier |
vanessae is your server still up? |
| 15:15 |
VanessaE |
sapier: yes |
| 15:15 |
sapier |
ok I take that as "at least those changes improve problem" |
| 15:16 |
VanessaE |
yeah, that patch seems to have improved things a bit |
| 15:16 |
sapier |
I'm gonna fix it to create a pull request |
| 15:17 |
sapier |
but I'm not sure if it'll work on windows as windows doesn't support different scheduling policys |
| 15:18 |
celeron55 |
thexyz: add, no replace |
| 15:19 |
celeron55 |
Progers: i said i DON'T |
| 15:19 |
celeron55 |
if you'd asked two years ago, then i would have answered "my server and kray's server" |
| 15:19 |
celeron55 |
both are history as of now though |
| 15:20 |
Progers |
A-a |
| 15:20 |
Progers |
ok |
| 15:21 |
thexyz |
for the time being let me add uptime in place of description |
| 15:21 |
celeron55 |
sounds good |
| 15:22 |
thexyz |
I really should rewrite this tiny & dirty python script into some sort of web application |
| 15:23 |
celeron55 |
i was going to put the django implementation of minetest.net into use this weekend |
| 15:23 |
celeron55 |
but ended up playing openttd for the whole time |
| 15:23 |
celeron55 |
:D |
| 15:23 |
celeron55 |
maybe next time then |
| 15:24 |
celeron55 |
a python script should work well with django though! |
| 15:24 |
PilzAdam |
random bugfix: https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest/commit/da0e83b01cd51d0b12742bbac34ef349cb4be599 |
| 15:25 |
celeron55 |
in case someone hasn't played openttd in a few years, i recommend doing it now |
| 15:25 |
sapier |
https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/pull/432 if there's a windows developer out there plz test |
| 15:25 |
thexyz |
http://servers.minetest.ru/server.list |
| 15:25 |
celeron55 |
lol |
| 15:26 |
celeron55 |
this is going to blow people's mind |
| 15:26 |
thexyz |
? |
| 15:26 |
celeron55 |
hmm |
| 15:27 |
celeron55 |
how is this list sorted |
| 15:27 |
thexyz |
nope, how should it be sorted? |
| 15:28 |
PilzAdam |
the GUI uses the order of the file |
| 15:28 |
celeron55 |
probably so that those that are up are first, and those that are down come last with the description being "Down; Uptime: foo" |
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celeron55 |
that would be the most useful as of now i think |
| 15:29 |
celeron55 |
or maybe not even show the ones that are down? |
| 15:30 |
PilzAdam |
there could be a button in the GUI "Add to favorites" |
| 15:30 |
celeron55 |
it'll add if you connect |
| 15:33 |
celeron55 |
thexyz: try it in the gui, you can probably think of what is the best way |
| 15:35 |
thexyz |
https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/pull/366/files#L4R1184 |
| 15:36 |
thexyz |
ok, I modified it to only show servers which are up and sort them by uptime |
| 15:36 |
thexyz |
the problem is that this server.list doesn't display in gui |
| 15:37 |
thexyz |
probably because of url |
| 15:37 |
celeron55 |
maybe it can't ignore it then |
| 15:38 |
celeron55 |
by the way, this piece of code will launch a browser on the major OSes, if somebody wants to implement opening urls: http://paste.dy.fi/ep0 |
| 15:39 |
celeron55 |
(from an another project of mine) |
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Jeija |
Should thexyz's server.list be the default url for the client? |
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Progers |
celeron55 What Programming languages do you know? |
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celeron55 |
Jeija: as of now it seems like the best solution |
| 17:21 |
hmmmm |
celeron |
| 17:21 |
hmmmm |
intel celeron processors |
| 17:21 |
hmmmm |
did you read the description of the patches |
| 17:22 |
celeron55 |
what patches are you talking about |
| 17:22 |
hmmmm |
mine, remember you told me to write up a description of what they do |
| 17:23 |
celeron55 |
link? |
| 17:23 |
Jeija |
OK, celeron55 |
| 17:24 |
Jeija |
thexyz: do you have something like my automated server management on mesecons.net/serverlist that allows you to add a server at least? If not, do you want mine? |
| 17:24 |
hmmmm |
http://pastebin.com/ZhDtdWuQ |
| 17:24 |
celeron55 |
Jeija: in case you don't know, servers.minetest.ru is this: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2239 |
| 17:25 |
Jeija |
ah fine, something automated would sure also be nice |
| 17:25 |
celeron55 |
so it's manually managed via that forum topic |
| 17:25 |
celeron55 |
that's something to be worked on in the future |
| 17:26 |
celeron55 |
as of now, that is the most comprehensive list out there |
| 17:26 |
celeron55 |
my goal is to add such service on minetest.net, and add ability for the server to announce itself to there if configured to do so |
| 17:27 |
celeron55 |
altough... the announcement part may be problematic |
| 17:28 |
Jeija |
That would be great; doesnt sound too difficult when just calling a php url with some parameters |
| 17:28 |
celeron55 |
but anyway, that is like eg. openttd works |
| 17:28 |
celeron55 |
Jeija: yes but flood/spam control and such is painful |
| 17:28 |
Jeija |
true |
| 17:29 |
celeron55 |
a manual forum-operated list is pretty solid until there is reliable automation |
| 17:30 |
PilzAdam |
hmmmm, "Complete map generator configurability." I saw something about storing this in minetest.conf in your branch |
| 17:31 |
PilzAdam |
this would mean that it isnt per world |
| 17:36 |
celeron55 |
hmmmm: the fact that this text now exists is awesome; i'm yet to get to commenting the content of it 8) |
| 17:42 |
celeron55 |
not bad i guess |
| 17:44 |
celeron55 |
i'm a bit sceptical of whether this, being our first attempt in generating arbitrarily defined biomes, will work out, but it's a solid start |
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celeron55 |
does somehow have anything against merging this? |
| 18:27 |
celeron55 |
...somebody* |
| 18:27 |
Calinou |
merging what? |
| 18:27 |
* Calinou |
answers "no" in advance |
| 18:28 |
PilzAdam |
celeron55, the mapgen or the serverlist? |
| 18:28 |
PilzAdam |
yes to serverlist; dunno to mapgen |
| 18:29 |
PilzAdam |
(yes as in "yes, merge it" and not "yes, I have something against it") |
| 18:32 |
doserj |
I may have a proper fix for the liquid update issue: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/pull/426 |
| 18:32 |
doserj |
who wants to test/review? |
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PilzAdam |
doserj, what is this: https://github.com/doserj/minetest/commit/a86eb2f8f4ae34e08f5e240540e91410ce03dbe4#L0L1672 |
| 18:36 |
doserj |
the code is indented more because i have a nested loop |
| 18:37 |
doserj |
it used to be "for each node". now it is "for each block, for each node in the block" |
| 18:40 |
doserj |
the update algorithm should be unchanged, except I break out earlier when a find an unloaded block neighboring the current node. |
| 18:41 |
doserj |
I didn't even remove the apparently useless neutrals[6] array... |
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PilzAdam |
has anyone any idea why this doesnt work? https://gist.github.com/4581577 |
| 20:43 |
sapier |
I'd assume a bug in touching_ground detection |
| 20:43 |
sapier |
is your collisionbox correct? |
| 20:45 |
PilzAdam |
well, the Y velocity is set to 0 by collisionMoveSimple(), so I guess yes |
| 20:46 |
PilzAdam |
umm.... |
| 20:46 |
sapier |
collisionMoveSimple is buggy as hell |
| 20:46 |
sapier |
do you have an acceleration set for particles or is it veloticy only? |
| 20:46 |
PilzAdam |
result.collides && !result.collides_xz instead of touching ground works fine |
| 20:47 |
sapier |
strange |
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sapier |
still if you have acceleration sett using collisionMoveSimple will cause server lockups on slow servers |
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sapier |
at least if this isn't client only |
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hello |
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Kacey |
hello |
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Kacey |
i have an idea... |
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Vogarth |
I'm trying to get minetest to compile on a mac, I've got two undefined symbols I can't seem to figure out... |
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Vogarth |
mapgen::find_ground_level_from_noise and mapgen::block_is_underground |
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Vogarth |
This is the git version, same problem with 0.4.4 release version. |
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Vogarth |
I've determined it's not a compile flag issue. |
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Vogarth |
Any ideas? |
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sapier |
maybe some codeset issue? |
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Vogarth |
codeset? please explain. |
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Vogarth |
a character encodeing issue? a string missmatch? |
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sapier |
different os use different codesets to show characters windows and linux e.g. have different line ends |
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sapier |
yes |
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sapier |
it's just a guess |
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Vogarth |
hm. Not seeing any evidence of special characters in map.cpp or mapgen.cpp. |
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sapier |
a linkage problem? extern "C" vs c++ for example? |
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Vogarth |
Pretty sure no, using g++ for all source compile and final link. stripped out all flags (happens with stock cmake as well). |
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Vogarth |
map.cpp uses other objects from mapgen without problems. |
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Vogarth |
like mapgen::make_block() |
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Vogarth |
no, that's in an "#if 0" section, i take that back. |
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Vogarth |
Anything special in C++ to call methods in another section, is "#include <filename.h>" and class::object() enough? |
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hello? |
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