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IRC log for #minetest-dev, 2012-12-04

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Time Nick Message
00:11 Taoki RealBadAngel: Yes, not 10s (that is a lot). Here the laser shot spawns about 0.5 seconds after I fire
00:11 Taoki But even 0.5 is enough to be unrealistic
00:11 RealBadAngel sometimes its really like 10s
00:12 RealBadAngel i have no idea on what it depends
00:15 RealBadAngel somebody overdid using groups in recipes
00:16 RealBadAngel {items = {1 = "group:stone", 0 = "group:stone", 3 = "group:stone", 2 = "group:stone", 5 = "group:stone", 8 = "group:stone", 7 = "group:stone", 6 = "group:stone"}, type = "normal", width = 3}
00:16 RealBadAngel this is recipe for the furnace
00:17 RealBadAngel who did that?
00:18 RealBadAngel now its possible to make furnace out of desert stone for example
00:23 Taoki Desert furnace :D
00:25 RealBadAngel its even worse
00:26 RealBadAngel PilzAdam added group:stone in almost every recipe
00:26 VanessaE I agree with RealBadAngel on this - cobble does not belong in group "stone", and furnace should not be made from that group.
00:26 VanessaE cobble != stone.
00:26 RealBadAngel tools also
00:26 RealBadAngel if a modder will add new kind of stone
00:27 RealBadAngel like me: marble, granite, obsidian
00:27 RealBadAngel it will be just total mess
00:27 RealBadAngel obsidian furnace, pick, shovel and who knows what more
00:27 RealBadAngel only lua does
00:38 Taoki Yeah, smooth stone should be there only, I agree
00:39 Taoki going to bed in a minute so night
00:39 VanessaE good night Taoki.
00:45 RealBadAngel good night
01:28 hmmmm umm
01:28 hmmmm how are you going to make a furnace without cobble
01:28 hmmmm you need a furnace to melt the cobble back into stone
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01:55 SitDog i should be ready to make a commit or two this week.  just busy working and dealing with holiday stuff.
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03:52 VanessaE hmmmm: the problem is now we build a furnace with anything in group=stone, which includes cobble, stone, and desert stone.
03:52 VanessaE (as of the commit that added that)
03:52 VanessaE cobble should not be in the 'stone' group, and furnaces should not be built from items which are still in that group.
03:54 hmmmm i don't see what's wrong with that though
03:55 hmmmm are you trying to make the crafting formulas exactly like minecraft
03:55 hmmmm i can make a furnace from cobble, stone, and desert stone irl
03:55 VanessaE I'm not trying to do anything, it just seems wrong to make a furnace from anything but cobble is all.
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10:59 celeron56 RealBadAngel: if you have any of the current mods installed that do stuff at map generation time, that will cause huge delays because nothing else will work while they do their stuff
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13:11 Taoki I approve of using only cobble to make furnace. Smooth stone could work too I guess. Desert stone no because it's orange, and then the furnace would have to be same color
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14:55 RealBadAngel hi
14:56 PilzAdam hello
14:56 RealBadAngel wowsers, im testing now my new keyboard
14:56 RealBadAngel aluminium casing, keys, higlighted
14:56 RealBadAngel its damn coool
14:58 * RealBadAngel is turnin off the light
14:58 RealBadAngel even better
14:58 thexyz here is damn cool keyboard http://www.daskeyboard.com/
14:58 thexyz do you think this is related to minetest core development?
15:00 RealBadAngel yup
15:00 RealBadAngel i can develop minetest when its dark
15:01 RealBadAngel football players talk bout shoes and grass\
15:01 RealBadAngel what are coder supposed to talk of?
15:04 RealBadAngel back to the group:stone in recipes
15:04 RealBadAngel its not about copying minecraft there
15:05 RealBadAngel but such group could have sense for digging sounds, crack animations, maybe something more
15:05 RealBadAngel but not craft recipes
15:06 RealBadAngel if i would like to follow group stone with marble, granite and obsidian\
15:06 RealBadAngel which is logical, recipes would become just stupid
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22:00 VanessaE celeron55:  regression problem for some people:  http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3839
22:00 VanessaE oh hell you already commented on that.
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