Time  Nick       Message
02:23 OldCoder   sfan5|OFF, thexyz, hmmmm, others: LevelDB fixes at least a couple of problems
02:23 hmmmm      don't highlight me
02:23 OldCoder   The next issue is how to migrate the worlds. WorldEdit is too slow. Need to write a tool. I will volunteer to do so if help is provided.
03:48 OldCoder
03:48 OldCoder   This is to note that I am now a fan of LevelDB
03:48 OldCoder
04:34 thexyz     OldCoder: don't bother about migration tool, i'll make it
04:35 OldCoder   thexyz, that will help
04:35 OldCoder   thexyz, I have seen...
04:35 thexyz     something like minetestserver --worldname test --migrate leveldb should be ok
04:35 OldCoder   that crashes have gone away
04:35 OldCoder   Yes
04:35 OldCoder   It is a Miracle Cure :p
04:35 OldCoder   Seriously the speed improvement may be a workaround for a number of glitches
04:35 OldCoder   Until the glitches are fixed
04:36 OldCoder   migrate in reverse direction would be good too
04:41 thexyz     that'll be availible too
04:41 thexyz     migration from current backend to any other supported
04:43 OldCoder   thexyz, this is an interesting step forward
14:58 VanessaE   celeron55: is there any solution for the 4GB map size bug?
14:58 celeron55  i don't (and don't want to) know what you are talking about
14:58 VanessaE   ok.
15:06 * VanessaE muffles various comments about the future of minetest.
15:14 OldCoder   VanessaE, LevelDB probably
15:14 celeron55  VanessaE: my answer: take the future in your hands
15:15 celeron55  so you don't need to be involved with me
15:15 OldCoder   thexyz, when you return: Is there a vacuum equivalent for LevelDB and .sst files? Are all of the .sst files required or are some older journals that can be removed?
15:15 celeron55  it's the general idea i am aiming towards, and the idea of http://c55.me/temp/mt_dev_survey/
15:15 OldCoder   VanessaE, there are new database formats supported now
15:15 OldCoder   MySQL and LevelDB. The 4GB limit may be gone.
15:15 celeron55  (that isn't available anymore though because the connection went down)
15:15 OldCoder   And speed may be much improved with LevelDB
15:16 OldCoder   If anybody else present knows LevelDB see my question about .sst files and vacuum above
15:19 thexyz     VanessaE: what's the problem with 4gb map.sqlite?
15:21 celeron55  sqlite should support pretty much infinite sizes
15:21 thexyz     OldCoder: why would you need to vacuum key-value storage? why would you like to remove something from map.db directory?
15:22 VanessaE   thexyz, et.al:  I don't know the specifics of the issue, except that as a map approaches 4GB, corruption becomes a concern.
15:22 celeron55  apparently 140 terabytes
15:22 OldCoder   thexyz, My apologies for not reviewing the details yet. Let me rephrase: Is any maintainence required or should I assume that all of the .sst files are needed and correct?
15:23 OldCoder   thexyz, plus is there a CLI tool with which to check for corruption?
15:23 thexyz     celeron55: is c55.me down?
15:23 OldCoder   That is all for now
15:23 celeron55  thexyz: is
15:23 VanessaE   celeron55: the problem with taking the future into my own hands (or to anyone else) is YOU WON'T LET ANYONE COMMIT.
15:23 celeron55  at least until monday
15:23 thexyz     =(
15:23 thexyz     VanessaE: fork it
15:23 celeron55  VanessaE: the problem is being taken care of
15:23 VanessaE   thexyz: I did, see also my video settings patch.
15:24 VanessaE   celeron55: ok.
15:24 thexyz     VanessaE: so what's the problem now?
15:24 thexyz     i merged it into my fork, jfyi
15:25 VanessaE   meh, forget I said anything.
15:26 thexyz     VanessaE: ok, done
15:27 thexyz     OldCoder: i think there're no console tools (or whatever) availible for leveldb
15:28 OldCoder   thexyz, O.K. And no maintenance is needed? There is no wasted space?
15:28 OldCoder   All of the .sst files would be compressed automatically if key-value pairs were removed?
15:29 OldCoder   Or is this known? Thank you
15:31 thexyz     better read official docs because i don't know much about it
15:32 OldCoder   thexyz, thank you. We are commited regardless. If you can manage the export/migrate feature sometime let us know. My worlds are switching over.
15:32 OldCoder   All 15 of them :-)
15:42 celeron55  hmm, i think i want to add push access to three people
15:42 celeron55  because then they can very easily majority vote between themselves if needed
15:45 jin_xi     my bets on Sfan, Jeja and thexyz
15:45 OldCoder   thexyz fork has LevelDB which strikes me as important