Time  Nick       Message
03:25 cornernote new modding api, to be released monday - http://cornernote.net/minetest/api
03:25 cornernote user/pass = demo/demo
03:26 cornernote leave any feedback as comments on the site, i'll go through all comments before release
07:37 celeron55  cornernote_: the quality seems somewhat sloppy for some parts, but i guess the websites could link to there too
08:26 cornernote do you mean the content, or the system itself ?
08:27 cornernote its still alpha, the user registration system doesnt work, but its really close
08:27 cornernote the content is just copied from the current api txt file
08:27 cornernote i tweaked it a little, and doc'd all the function params/returns
08:28 cornernote but still need to do examples for most functions
08:29 cornernote anything that is not upto standard, i'm happy to improve... and the community as a whole is keen to colaborate on the documentation
08:29 celeron55  if it's still work-in-progress, then it's fine
08:35 cornernote i have a request to tweak how the forums work
08:35 cornernote if i apply a patch, can i get you to apply it to the forums ?
08:36 cornernote its regarding this - http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3272
08:36 cornernote If I wrap minetest://example.com:30000 in [ url ] tags, it becomes a link to minetest//example.com:30000 (drops the 1st colan)
08:37 celeron55  wtf
08:38 cornernote ?
08:38 celeron55  quickly thinking, i suppose it checks for a number of protocols that it knows and if it isn't one, it'll break
08:39 celeron55  that's just plain stupid...
08:39 cornernote its kind of a crap forum, but does the job
08:39 celeron55  not anything new from punbb 1.3 though 8) it has bugs but works
08:39 cornernote disapointing, but not unexpected
08:41 cornernote so if i fix it, is someone around who can apply such fixes ?
08:42 cornernote not right this moment, but in general
08:42 cornernote i have had the idea to fix it, but didnt think anyone could apply the patch, so never bothered
08:42 celeron55  yeah, i can patch it; in fact i just started grepping for "http" in there...
08:43 celeron55  there are a good bunch of fixes already applied to it anyway
08:43 cornernote would be great if you could give access to someone else who you trust
08:43 cornernote i dont know who, i havent been here long enough to see who you inteact with and trust most
08:44 cornernote but just so there is a 2IC that can do things if needed
08:45 cornernote i dont think that bug is because of a protocol
08:45 cornernote i think its because it does some junk like explode(':',$url)
08:46 cornernote but not sure, havent seen the source yet
08:46 celeron55  i can't find any relevant mention of 'http' or "http" in there... there's only one 'http' and it can't be related
08:46 celeron55  how can it break one link but not other then...
08:46 cornernote try this link
08:46 celeron55  hmm, maybe it's length dependent
08:46 cornernote http://example.com:30000
08:47 cornernote i think its cos it has 2 colans
08:47 celeron55  ah
08:47 cornernote it doesnt expect it, and it screws up when it re-joins it
08:47 celeron55  so http://foo.com:80 won't work either?
08:47 cornernote i assume
08:47 cornernote sec, checking
08:47 celeron55  now i need to find the link maker somewhere in there...
08:48 cornernote http://server:port works fine
08:49 cornernote http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=46478#p46478
08:49 cornernote just to make it more complicated
08:49 celeron55  now that is odd
08:50 celeron55  okay, it seems to be because of the length of the protocol
08:50 cornernote if we can get that working, i also setup a windows setup.exe thingy .. windows users can have minetest:// links!
08:50 cornernote http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3283
08:50 cornernote ahh, i see
08:52 cornernote if you happen to see it while in there, an auto-link would be nice ;)
08:52 cornernote same as it auto-links http://
08:52 celeron55  apparently it allows 6 characters for the protocol
08:52 celeron55  7 will break it
08:52 celeron55  brb, grepping 6...
08:53 celeron55  8D
08:53 cornernote ok, so we'll just rename this project to minete
08:53 cornernote ;)
08:53 cornernote how about
08:53 cornernote mt://
08:53 cornernote ?
08:54 celeron55  i wonder if any other software will break with such urls
08:54 cornernote then no code change is needed
08:54 celeron55  for example spotify:// is 7 characters and it's used
08:54 Calinou    minet would be better, less confusion, less potential conflicts
08:54 celeron55  so it's just a punbb bug
08:54 cornernote i can change the registry..
08:55 cornernote so either mt:// or minetest:// both work
08:55 cornernote then in forums we can use mt://
08:55 cornernote thought on providing it as minetest-setup.exe ?
08:55 cornernote so all the registry stuff can be done
08:56 celeron55  no, we will use minetest://
08:56 cornernote ok, nice
08:59 celeron55  ha, "else if (!preg_match('#^([a-z0-9]{3,6})://#', $url))    // Else if it doesn't start with abcdef://, we add http://"
09:00 celeron55  i'll just lengthen that to 10 or so
09:00 cornernote strange they would do that
09:00 cornernote so mt:// wouldnt work either
09:00 celeron55  it's a piece of code that will make links without a protocol default to http://
09:00 celeron55  or part of a piece of code
09:00 cornernote protocol must be 3-6
09:00 cornernote wonder why
09:01 cornernote anyway
09:01 cornernote so... what are your thoughts on a setup.exe ?
09:01 celeron55  now it works
09:01 cornernote i've done all the work for it, just needs someone to look at it and consider/do it
09:04 celeron55  cmake/cpack directly supports NSIS: http://www.vtk.org/Wiki/CMake:CPackPackageGenerators#NSIS
09:05 celeron55  (...on windows with other software having to be installed)
09:06 cornernote ok, but that has to be done
09:07 cornernote anyway.. +1 for having setup.exe, however its done
09:07 cornernote and +1 for making a Games forum section too ;)
09:07 celeron55  making those installers and packages and other things and making sure they work before publishing is horrible work; i'm too lazy to consistently maintain anything else than a zip
09:07 cornernote ok, i agree.. just use the one that i already tested
09:08 cornernote we dont HAVE to use nsis, just cos its built into cmake
09:11 celeron55  why a games section? there are like... 3 publshed games in existence
09:11 cornernote 7+
09:11 cornernote and how do new people find them ?
09:11 cornernote there is 100s of mods
09:11 cornernote 7+ games
09:11 cornernote no new user will find a game
09:11 celeron55  well that is a point
09:11 cornernote can i at least have a sticky post so ppl can find them ?
09:12 cornernote u want coders, not players ?
09:12 cornernote i could accept that, if you were here to code more ;)
09:13 celeron55  i added "Minetest Games"
09:13 celeron55  somebody should write a sticky in there explaining what they are
09:13 cornernote ok, i'll write one
09:13 cornernote thank you
09:14 celeron55  VanessaE, sfan5: ^ sticky the result of that
09:14 VanessaE   gladly.
09:32 VanessaE   celeron55: posted and sticky'd - can we make this particular section strictly move-into only as in the case of Mod Releases?
09:36 Jordach    +1
09:45 VanessaE   celeron55: for the sake of populating that new section, maybe it would be a good idea for you to make a post there as well just to cover minetest_game - just in case there's some random corner case where some user who lived under a rock discovered only the engine and not the minetest_game part ;-)
10:17 celeron55  if you write the necessary guide sticky and move requests there, i can disable topic creation
10:17 celeron55  but dunno
10:17 celeron55  any more +1s for that?
10:18 PilzAdam   +1
10:18 VanessaE   c66: such a guide has already been written and sticky'd.
10:18 VanessaE   c55*
10:19 Jordach    VanessaE, it would be easier to link it
10:19 VanessaE   http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3316
10:20 celeron55  oh, well that'll do then
10:20 VanessaE   (sticked?  stuck?)
10:20 celeron55  sticky'eisjfaposfjdsa
10:21 celeron55  topic posting disabled
10:21 VanessaE   thanks
10:22 PilzAdam   you can remove [Modpack] from here: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1271
10:24 cornernote and call Repack Modpack in games
10:24 cornernote i used the term Repack to not conflict
10:24 cornernote what is mesecons called?
10:24 cornernote a Mod, or a Modpack ?
10:24 VanessaE   it's referred to variously as both.
10:24 VanessaE   technically, it's a modpack
10:25 cornernote then the term Repack should be used for games that combine multiple mods ?
10:25 PilzAdam   mods that have sub-mods should prefix [Mod]
10:25 cornernote or Modpack ?
10:25 VanessaE   afaik it has modpack.txt and most of its components can be disabled by simply removing the associated folder(s)
10:26 cornernote eg, im making a mod repack of mods that i run with pilzadam's minetest_game
10:26 cornernote all the mods are existing [Mod]s, but i want them in a pack cos its easier for new people to experience a complete game that way
10:26 cornernote its also easier for me to manage my servers, etc
12:53 Mikeonline hi
15:11 PilzAdam   celeron55, https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest_game/commit/f03edb846b12c66dce36990e3fa963b1e0f0b4c6
15:11 PilzAdam   ^ this fixes the shadows when removing lava
15:27 Calinou    lava letting light pass through = doesn't feel right, but that would fix the bug anyway
15:43 Jordach    Calinou, realisticly, you would never notice :)
15:59 Calinou    never seen the light bug anyway, personaly
15:59 Calinou    personally*
19:57 ironzorg   anybody speaking russian here ?
20:30 thexyz     yep
21:05 hmmmm      it's coming out nice
21:05 hmmmm      http://pastebin.com/pNxTgtXy
21:05 hmmmm      oh shoot, i need to divide the loop count by 4