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| 13:37 |
VanessaE |
celeron55: suggestion - next release should be named 0.4.3, not 0.4.2. There's a ton of confusion over which "0.4.2" is the right one given various changes that have occurred since the -rc1 release. |
| 13:39 |
celeron55 |
maybe |
| 13:40 |
celeron55 |
hmm, there haven't been really anything else than bugfixes |
| 13:40 |
VanessaE |
I know |
| 13:41 |
celeron55 |
some small things |
| 13:42 |
VanessaE |
full furnace crash, drop items crash. anything that can crash the server, really. |
| 13:42 |
VanessaE |
I've already had to help a couple people work around those |
| 13:42 |
VanessaE |
both since patched of course |
| 13:42 |
PilzAdam |
celeron55, IMO you should work more on minetest_game than on the engine |
| 13:43 |
VanessaE |
at any rate, what I'm finding is that to the average user it seems that 0.4.2 is 0.4.2 whether it's latest git, -rc1, or some interim build |
| 13:47 |
celeron55 |
well the current HEAD is very much more 0.4.2-rc1 than 0.4.2-rc1 is 0.4.1 |
| 13:47 |
celeron55 |
the latter difference is almost as large as a 0.4.x-0.4.(x+1) can be |
| 13:49 |
VanessaE |
true true |
| 13:49 |
VanessaE |
just thinking of your audience is all. |
| 13:50 |
celeron55 |
the only thing speaking towards 0.4.3 would be that the time between -rc1 and now is unusually long for minetest |
| 13:51 |
VanessaE |
I guess the question is, which is better? reducing confusion that you and we have to deal with, or sticking with the numbering scheme |
| 13:51 |
VanessaE |
even 0.4.22 would be enough |
| 13:51 |
VanessaE |
or rather, 0.4.2.2 |
| 13:51 |
celeron55 |
most people aren't using 0.4.2-rc1 |
| 13:52 |
celeron55 |
i think it will be 0.4.2, logic is better than vague guesses about what people might unlogically expect |
| 13:52 |
VanessaE |
that's the problem |
| 13:53 |
celeron55 |
the confusion is just short-time anyway |
| 13:53 |
VanessaE |
your audience has no logic in this matter, because they're users, not coders ;-) |
| 13:53 |
celeron55 |
illogical versioning confuses in the long run |
| 13:53 |
celeron55 |
when somebody wants the previous version of 0.4.3, he'll look for 0.4.2, not 0.4.2-rc1 or 0.4.1 |
| 13:54 |
VanessaE |
but he won't want the previous 0.4.3 if it's *just* out |
| 13:54 |
celeron55 |
or the next version of 0.4.1 |
| 13:54 |
VanessaE |
users don't see it that way |
| 13:54 |
celeron55 |
during all of what i have done i have noticed that short-time things don't really matter at all |
| 13:56 |
VanessaE |
eh.. |
| 13:59 |
VanessaE |
I refrain from comment. |
| 13:59 |
VanessaE |
change of subject: is Mese technically an ore (nevermind that you just receive the whole block on mining it), or did you have a different idea in mind for it? |
| 14:01 |
celeron55 |
it's originally a joke block that i created when i didn't have anything better for challenges above coal and iron |
| 14:01 |
VanessaE |
yep I know that |
| 14:01 |
celeron55 |
actually, iron didn't exist at that time either i think |
| 14:01 |
VanessaE |
it obviously has morphed into something more now |
| 14:03 |
celeron55 |
well, there are basically two alternatives it can technically be: an ore, or an artificial or future-ish block (similar to eg. coins flying in the air in Super Mario) |
| 14:04 |
celeron55 |
or, well, actually there is a third one, being something made by man, for some reason |
| 14:05 |
VanessaE |
I've seen it as more of an ore - not unlike a geode or dense cluster of crystals anyway |
| 14:05 |
VanessaE |
of course, there's some bias there since I draw it that way in my HDX pack and in the mesecons default textures. |
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celeron55 |
VanessaE: so does the render options patch exist now? |
| 15:33 |
VanessaE |
celeron55: not as a patch you can apply per se. just as a few lines you can insert into a couple of files. |
| 15:33 |
celeron55 |
i'm pratically running out of pull requests now |
| 15:34 |
celeron55 |
and it's hard to remember what exists somewhere and what doesn't |
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celeron55 |
(which kind of is why pull requests exist) |
| 15:36 |
VanessaE |
of course. |
| 15:36 |
VanessaE |
and once a real patch exists I'm sure it'll get requested |
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