Time  Nick      Message
02:49 jyfl987   VanessaE: are you there?
02:49 VanessaE  yes
02:50 jyfl987   VanessaE: so have you check my screenshot?
02:50 VanessaE  yes, and I don't know what I'm supposed to see there
02:50 jyfl987   VanessaE: have you see the loading problem?
02:50 VanessaE  you mean the map generator?
02:51 jyfl987   i dont know if that's a generator or just loading problem
02:51 VanessaE  I can see how the stuff at sea level loads before the stuff below it
02:51 VanessaE  and closer before further
02:51 VanessaE  but other than that I can't really tell what you're trying to show
02:52 jyfl987   VanessaE: what i show is just the map problem
02:52 jyfl987   in physics world, you cant just show one block while nother couldnt be show or show after
02:53 VanessaE  I just can't see it
02:53 VanessaE  I don't understand what the problem is
02:53 jyfl987   VanessaE: http://imgur.com/a/XOVNB
02:53 jyfl987   check the picture upside
02:53 VanessaE  I'm already looking there
02:53 VanessaE  the images don't tell me anything
02:53 jyfl987   and see the left-top
02:54 jyfl987   VanessaE: in physics world, you need to suply a circle-like border
02:54 jyfl987   in minecraft , they looks like a rectangle or square
02:55 VanessaE  ok?
02:57 VanessaE  I dunno, it's all up to celeron55 :-)
02:57 jyfl987   http://imgur.com/kcc3c   VanessaE check this, i just select the problem part
02:57 jyfl987   it looks weird
02:58 VanessaE  yes, I saw that
02:58 VanessaE  set your view distance to a longer range
02:58 VanessaE  ?
02:58 VanessaE  (+ key)
02:59 VanessaE  I mean, map blocks are 16^3 nodes in size, so that close to you they'll seem kinda huge
02:59 VanessaE  and they'll seem to form little better than a distorted rectangle
02:59 jyfl987   the map blocks are so small
02:59 VanessaE  not really
03:00 jyfl987   sorry
03:00 VanessaE  16 nodes is sizable when you're looking out over nearby land
03:00 jyfl987   i understand in wrong way
03:00 VanessaE  ok
03:00 jyfl987   i recongnize ^ as *
03:00 VanessaE  oh, no
03:00 VanessaE  16^3, 16 cubed,  16 by 16 by 16
03:00 VanessaE  :)
03:00 jyfl987   i now know that means 16*16*16 :]
03:01 jyfl987   and i found even in my local machine, sometimes the client lags
03:01 jyfl987   like when i got steel from forge
03:02 jyfl987   it will display both in my package and the forge
03:02 VanessaE  yeah, I see that sometimes too
03:02 jyfl987   it seems the UDP protocol cause that
03:02 VanessaE  0.4.3 does seem to have a little more lag than 0.4.2, but not too bad
03:02 jyfl987   so when i connect to redcrab's server, its more lag
03:03 jyfl987   is it possible to change that to tcp?
03:03 VanessaE  dunno
03:03 jyfl987   or change some protocol principles
03:03 VanessaE  celeron55 would know more than I would
03:03 jyfl987   like i want to put/get items batchly
03:03 jyfl987   currently i need to click and click
03:04 VanessaE  middle click
03:04 VanessaE  moves 10 items into craft, takes 10x craft result out
03:04 VanessaE  (if craft result = 4, middle click takes 10*4 = 40)
03:04 jyfl987   if the network lag(i connect to redcrab's server), i can see the item number first turn small and then back to big
03:05 jyfl987   i just bought a linode vps and setup a minetest server on that
03:05 jyfl987   will try to install some farming mod for playing
03:05 VanessaE  I haven't noticed any usability issues on redcrab:30401
03:06 jyfl987   VanessaE: i found its interesting to planting tree underground
03:06 VanessaE  except on occasion, dug blocks get undone, but only 2 or 3 at a time at most, and only sparingly.
03:06 jyfl987   VanessaE: since minetest is just the engine, why not pack all interesting mod to minetest_game?
03:07 jyfl987   VanessaE: yep my met more times on dug blocks get undone
03:08 VanessaE  celeron55 has been adding stuff to minetest_game gradually as he determines that each proposed thing is suitable
03:09 jyfl987   so what's the general target?
03:09 VanessaE  dunno
03:09 jyfl987   so far, the item type are too less
03:09 jyfl987   celeron55: can you explain that
03:10 VanessaE  c55 is probably asleep now, it's about 5am his time I think
03:11 jyfl987   he live in finland?
03:11 VanessaE  yeah
03:11 jyfl987   what about you?
03:12 VanessaE  US
03:12 VanessaE  (western North Carolina)
03:12 NakedFury vanessa did you play with what he added new today?
03:12 jyfl987   ok
03:12 VanessaE  you mean those nodedef changes? no