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IRC log for #minetest-delta, 2012-07-19

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06:16 jin_xi still stuck at the same question...
06:20 VanessaE question?
06:24 jin_xi how to save the result of add_entity to a nodes metadata...
06:24 jin_xi am trying to finish up the painting mod to a releasable state despite the 49 objects limit (one pic has 64 pixels)
06:25 jin_xi and knowing how to save those entities is the last missing piece
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15:07 spectator hello>
15:08 spectator are there any logs for other minetest channels like at http://logs.2pktfkt.de/minetest-delta/?
15:09 darkrose like celeron said, you failed to read the topic, therefore, for you, there are none
15:10 spectator which topic??
15:10 brobostigon channel topic.
15:10 spectator where?
15:10 brobostigon try /topic
15:10 spectator "Insufficient arguments for command."
15:11 brobostigon /topic
15:11 SmugLeaf 10:36:45 -!- Topic for #minetest-delta: minetest-delta – Minetest developers | Logs: http://2pktfkt.de/irc/minetest-delta/ | http://minetest.net/wiki/doku.php?id=patchsets  | http://minetest.net/wiki/doku.php?id=dev_index | Elite development channel: #minetest-dev
15:12 spectator so there are logs for the delta only?
15:12 spectator and also this channel is no longer serious, right?
15:12 SmugLeaf this channel is always serious
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15:13 darkrose this channel is for dev + chatter vaguely related to dev
15:22 Calinou (it is not for dating. unlike #minetest-dev]
15:22 Calinou #feelfreetoquote,sig,orupvote.
15:23 * jordach high fives Calinou
15:23 * Calinou low fours jordach
15:23 jordach HA
15:23 Calinou AH
15:24 jordach http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_AyCJvzqhFK4/TUjsZ3MxZZI​/AAAAAAAABNI/mLHcacTy8K8/s1600/cool-story-bro.gif
15:25 spectator i guess i understand why everyone here is so angre.
15:28 spectator it is also interesting that not much was done in a last couple of weeks, but still, almost everyone (especially c55) here are cool kids
15:28 spectator i dont like it.
15:29 spectator for some reason there is a "bad" atmosphere in minetest community
15:29 spectator maybe it is because c55 behaves like he do and everyone else follow him
15:30 spectator that just sucks
15:31 sfan5 afk
15:31 spectator these stupid picture-jokes are stupid too, by the way
15:32 jordach spectator, its aimed at Calinou he WILL usually do this
15:32 jordach and frankly, we do help people
15:32 jordach just when someones away
15:32 spectator it does not matter who does this
15:33 jordach btw
15:33 jordach celeron55 can be on his man periods
15:33 jordach (most of the time)
15:34 jordach <Calinou> celeron55, why did you create a new channel btw? two were enough
15:34 jordach <jordach> 20110922_3
15:34 jordach * celeron55 has kicked Calinou from #minetest-dev (for this)
15:34 jordach * Calinou (~Calinou@unaffiliated/calinou) has joined #minetest-dev
15:34 jordach <Calinou> \o/ a kick
15:34 jordach * celeron55 has kicked Calinou from #minetest-dev (Calinou)
15:34 jordach * celeron55 sets ban on *!*Calinou@unaffiliated/calinou
15:34 Calinou lol @ kick THEN ban
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15:34 Calinou usually it's ban THEN kick
15:34 jordach true
15:34 Calinou spectator, the minetest forum has lots of kids yeah
15:35 spectator yeah, i know, that is why i'm not visiting it
15:35 jordach spectator, at times, #minetest has them too
15:35 jordach but on rare occaisions
15:35 jordach (they think irc works like msn)
15:35 spectator it is because irc is not as popular as forums
15:36 jordach true, but the fact is they cant grasp another form of communication besides web pages
15:36 jordach and msn, skype
15:37 spectator they only use things which are popular in the group of other kids
15:37 jordach exactly
15:37 jordach thats why i left the forums
15:37 uonilaC one sec, trying something
15:37 uonilaC seeing the hostmask, I might still join
15:37 uonilaC nope.
15:38 jordach you could have tried changing you calinou@unafflilliated/calinou
15:38 jordach use a REAL IP
15:38 Calinou lol
15:38 * Calinou likes his troll cloak!
15:38 jordach im too lazy to make on
15:38 jordach one*
15:39 jordach Calinou puts his "troll" in a box!
15:39 brobostigon reverse dns, and my own domain, to the rescue.
15:39 Calinou lol
15:39 jordach yep
15:39 jordach UK FTW
15:40 Calinou france FTL
15:40 jordach hold on
15:40 jordach lemme see my 1000 things britain did before france
15:40 jordach the guillotine being one of them
15:40 spectator just thinking... c55 spends a lot of time organizing the code and architecture. is that really necessary? especially slow lua mods?
15:41 spectator because it is not necessary to separate things that way
15:41 jordach i know, mesecons are horrible because of this problem
15:41 spectator like MT = C++, 3rd party mods = Lua ONLY!!11
15:42 spectator maybe the game should be made like other ones - few subsystems (renderer, server, etc.) connected together
15:42 spectator and the most important parts should be implemented in C++ in these subsystems
15:43 spectator example, mesecons could go into server subsystem, 3d player - into render subsys.
15:44 spectator development would go faster and also the game would work faster (Lua is much slower than native code)
15:44 ironzorg spectator: what you said
15:44 ironzorg I told c55 a few years ago
15:44 ironzorg he just told me I was an idiot
15:45 ironzorg my advice would be: if you think it's best for the engine, fork the project and DIY
15:45 ironzorg because he won't listen to you
15:46 jordach ^ and i thought MS sat on their laurels
15:47 spectator i think it would be too hard to fork this project because his code is actually not very good
15:47 jordach ironzorg, your flowers mod could do with a ton of updates
15:47 jordach spectator, im working on some fork
15:47 jordach that gains, infinite maps, mobs, improved code
15:47 spectator can i see it? or it is not publicly available yet?
15:47 jordach im tired of 31000
15:47 jordach spectator, it is
15:48 jordach HOWEVER
15:48 jordach this will be 0.2
15:48 ironzorg jordach: I don't have time for personnal project these days, you do it
15:48 ironzorg also I'm kind of bored of lua
15:48 ironzorg and I've only used it for a few days
15:48 jordach https://bitbucket.org/minetes​tclassicteam/minetest-classic
15:49 jordach current status
15:49 ironzorg lol.
15:51 spectator are there compiled binaries for win32? just dont want to spend a couple of hours for compilation.
15:52 jordach no
15:53 spectator it is not compatible with m$ windows?
15:53 jordach it is
15:53 jordach but cross-compiling is an ass
15:53 spectator yeah that is true
15:54 brobostigon i thought there were binaries for windows on github .
15:54 jordach my fork he means
15:54 brobostigon ah.
15:55 spectator compiling opensource projects on win32 is pain in ass too :) the easiest one was reactos because it contained build environment with it
15:56 spectator it is just boring to collect libraries from all over the internet
15:56 spectator and complining them too
15:57 jordach ikr
15:57 spectator i will try to compile your project though
15:57 jordach linux ftw
15:57 jordach spectator, id wait some time
15:57 jordach its still no where near done
15:57 spectator oh
15:57 spectator ok
16:04 Calinou <spectator> i will try to compile your project though
16:04 Calinou lol
16:04 Calinou <spectator> compiling opensource projects on win32 is pain in ass too :) the easiest one was reactos because it contained build environment with it
16:05 Calinou +1 because FOSS zealots
16:05 Calinou <spectator> it is not compatible with m$ windows?
16:05 Calinou lol m$
16:05 Calinou <brobostigon> i thought there were binaries for windows on github .
16:05 Calinou never, because "proper" coders (namely git coders) say "lol bins sux"
16:05 Calinou "better use trash cans"
16:06 Anchakor binaries don't belong into source code repository
16:08 spectator actually binaries must be never saved in the repo
16:08 spectator but they can be added as downloads
16:09 spectator it is because version control systems work best with text files
16:10 spectator but you will not break it if you will put a binary file in it (like image, compressed archive or even executable)
16:10 spectator it just will eat a lot of space and useful things like diff will not work
16:12 spectator that is why there is a download section which is not covered by git on a github
16:12 Anchakor yeah I meant binaries like the produced executable
16:12 spectator yep, they should be uploaded separately from the repo
16:12 brobostigon Calinou: https://github.com/downloads/celeron55/min​etest/minetest-0.4.dev-20120606-win32.zip well there,
16:12 Anchakor source should be just source file - without the products like generated documentation, executable...
16:12 Calinou yes, it's a download not a tag
16:13 Calinou <Anchakor> binaries don't belong into source code repository
16:13 Calinou > what the 56k fanboy says
16:13 brobostigon Calinou: thats what i was refferring to, a download.
16:14 Anchakor wtf 56k
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