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02:20 Mallot1 hi
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03:14 celeron55_ welcome everyone
03:14 celeron55_ today we will be discussing the newest dev build
03:15 VanessaE hey hey
03:15 Fury are you real?
03:15 VanessaE welcome back to the world of the living :-)
03:16 VanessaE except it isn't him :-)
03:17 Fury that was dissapointing
03:19 celeron55_ hellp
03:19 celeron55_ hollw
03:19 celeron55_ hello
03:20 VanessaE ok jordach, go back to bed. :-)
03:20 celeron55_ ok anyone work on mmods latly
03:20 Fury shame on you impostor, shame on YOU!
03:20 celeron55_ srry lol
03:20 celeron55_ i cme to ask a question
03:21 celeron55_ how do you make mods
03:21 VanessaE change your nickname please.
03:22 Fury saliva, pixie dust, well wishes, and a little bit of luck
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03:23 Celeron55__ what the whos the imposter
03:24 celeron55_ whatoh hi celeron i have a question
03:24 VanessaE *shakes head*
03:24 Celeron55__ yes
03:24 Celeron55__ lol
03:24 Celeron55__ ok ill chnge now
03:24 Celeron55__ ;)
03:24 Fury I want to do something evil and ping every online user on this channel
03:25 VanessaE so, who do we know in Pennsylvania....
03:25 VanessaE hahaha
03:25 VanessaE chickenshit :-)
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03:26 Mallot1 hello?
03:26 VanessaE Ah, I figured.
03:26 NakedFury hello
03:26 VanessaE hi Mallot1
03:26 Mallot1 amyone here
03:26 NakedFury that was you
03:26 Mallot1 hi
03:26 Mallot1 ?
03:26 Mallot1 anyway
03:27 VanessaE Mallot1: making mods isn't hard
03:27 Mallot1 thx vanessa
03:27 VanessaE you have to learn LUA first
03:27 Mallot1 for the help
03:27 Mallot1 on the forum
03:27 Mallot1 i made a cstle
03:27 VanessaE cool
03:27 Mallot1 brb gotta bookmark page
03:29 VanessaE note that for general chat, you should be on #minetest, not #minetest-delta
03:29 VanessaE (not that we're talking much over there either)
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03:31 Mallot1_ m back
03:31 VanessaE you never left.
03:31 Mallot1_ oh
03:31 Mallot1_ i closed the window
03:31 Mallot1_ and my pc froze
03:32 Mallot1_ ?
03:32 Mallot1_ wats a ping
03:32 Mallot1_ hello?
03:32 VanessaE a ping is a request from one computer to another
03:33 VanessaE the one asks the other "are you there?"
03:33 VanessaE a ping reply is the response, usually measured in fractions of a second.
03:33 VanessaE a ping timeout means that some computer on this network tried to contact yours and failed.
03:33 Mallot1_ oh i thought it was a punishment :0
03:33 Mallot1_ ok
03:33 Mallot1_ how do you make mods
03:33 VanessaE you learn LUA first.
03:34 VanessaE same as learning any other programming language
03:34 VanessaE read books, search the web, etc.
03:34 VanessaE once you've got a grasp of that, you download some mod such as flowers or animals and read through the code
03:35 VanessaE then see if you can modify the mod to do something new
03:35 Mallot1_ i have flowers but animals dont work for me
03:35 VanessaE well whatever - those are just examples.
03:35 Mallot1_ ok
03:35 Mallot1_ do you know how to run animals
03:36 VanessaE did you remember to download animal_materials and install it?
03:36 Mallot1_ oh thats the file it says is missing
03:36 VanessaE I saw your request on the forums.  Please DO NOT post duplicate messages, and please read the responses.
03:36 Mallot1_ srry my pc does that
03:36 Mallot1_ multiple taps
03:37 VanessaE then make it stop doing so :-)
03:37 Mallot1_ ok
03:37 VanessaE anyway, animals depends on animal_materials
03:37 VanessaE you need both
03:37 Mallot1_ where do i get them do you have the link
03:39 VanessaE go look on the forum - there should be a link to animal_materials in the thread governing animals.
03:39 Mallot1_ thx ill look brb
03:39 VanessaE http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=629
03:40 Mallot1_ im loading the link
03:41 Mallot1_ do i click primary current version
03:41 VanessaE I think so, but I've never used that mod
03:41 Mallot1_ ok
03:42 VanessaE get animals and animal_materials (unless the one you're downloading already comes with it)
03:42 VanessaE install both, then start your game
03:43 Mallot1_ alost done
03:43 Mallot1_ almmost done
03:44 Mallot1_ im loading level
03:46 Mallot1_ i see the file
03:46 Mallot1_ should i take it out of the animals file folder and put it in the omds folder separtly
03:47 VanessaE unzip the file and move the folder to your minetest mods folder
03:48 Mallot1_ the whole folder or animalsmaterials and the rest if seperate file folders
03:49 VanessaE the whole folder
03:49 Mallot1_ ok
03:50 VanessaE Unless the author of a mod says otherwise, it's always the whole folder, and by folder I do NOT mean the ZIP file you downloaded, I mean what comes out of it
03:51 Mallot1_ i need to restart pc
03:51 Mallot1_ brb
03:52 VanessaE no
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08:49 ironzorg Already up-to-date.
08:49 ironzorg :<
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17:25 Calinou -_-
17:25 Calinou celeron55 banned me from #minetest-dev
17:25 Calinou seriously
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17:55 Anchakor :)
17:56 MiJyn ?
18:32 jordach does anyone know where the creative inventory lists are contained in 0.2?
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18:53 Celeron hi bye
18:54 jordach Celeron, WHAT
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18:55 Mallot1 hello
18:56 jordach hellop
18:56 Mallot1 whats uup
18:56 jordach nothing, just compiling my endless map
18:56 Mallot1 do you know how to get growng mod to work
18:57 Mallot1 hello
18:57 Mallot1 you there
18:57 jordach no clue
18:58 Mallot1 is vanessae heree
18:58 jordach she is
18:58 VanessaE is it possible to make a recipe that uses a pattern for one of its inputs?
18:58 VanessaE yes I'm here, but kinda busy
18:58 Mallot1 it worked
18:58 jordach cmon endless map: COMPILWE
18:58 jordach cmon endless map: COMPILE*
18:59 Mallot1 ?
18:59 Mallot1 ok
18:59 jordach THE CURRENT map ends around 31000, im trying to remove this value
18:59 Mallot1 bye
19:00 Mallot1 ill be back
19:00 jordach alright terminator
19:01 Mallot1 whwn i come back im going to ask you how to make  mods
19:01 VanessaE no
19:02 VanessaE I already told you how
19:02 VanessaE first you need to get a book or search the web for a good lua tutorial
19:02 Mallot1 oh yeah
19:02 Mallot1 srry
19:02 Mallot1 ill do thhat
19:02 VanessaE then get the minetest modding APi from github
19:02 Mallot1 ok
19:02 VanessaE read through that
19:02 Mallot1 ok
19:03 VanessaE then pick a mod to try to modify.
19:03 VanessaE see if you can make your modifications work
19:03 Mallot1 brb thx
19:03 VanessaE if they don't, go back through your code
19:03 VanessaE look for typos, missing commas
19:03 VanessaE etc.
19:04 VanessaE you will need to use a paint program to create the textures your mod will use
19:04 VanessaE (what those look like is entirely up to you)
19:08 Mallot1 ok
19:09 Mallot1 im reading it now
19:11 jordach darkrose, http://pastebin.com/MPj4QH0t any help
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19:11 VanessaE you'll want to refer to that API periodically as you're working on your mod
19:11 VanessaE either to understand what someone else did, or to figure out what you want to do
19:11 darkrose VanessaE: thanks for volounteering to test this, it should fix your problem with the node/item limit: https://github.com/darkrose/minetest/commi​t/1860a9ef211f046f49829fb54fa435e35dac566f
19:11 VanessaE generally it's easy to code a mod, but sometimes the API can be a little cryptic
19:11 jordach darkrose, can YOU, code an endless map?
19:11 VanessaE ooooooooooooo
19:12 jordach mine dies exactly at 32700#
19:12 jordach when the define sits at 999999000000000
19:12 VanessaE I will give that a try in just a bit.  You're just in time, too - I'm working on UnifiedWoods. :-)
19:12 jordach no more VanessaE please
19:12 jordach and dont say unified wool
19:12 VanessaE no.
19:12 jordach good
19:12 VanessaE this is wooD, not wool.
19:13 jordach i meant jokingly
19:13 darkrose back up your map first! it should be fine, but I've only given it a quick test
19:13 VanessaE ok
19:14 jordach darkrose, i have a map thats generated beyond 31000, shoud this happen
19:14 darkrose jordach: v3s16 <-- what is the maximum value of a 16 bit signed integer?
19:14 Mallot1 undefinedbricks doest work
19:15 jordach 32600 ish?
19:15 VanessaE Mallot1: you mean UnifiedBricks.
19:15 Mallot1 yes
19:15 VanessaE Mallot1: did you install the mods it needs?
19:15 VanessaE it depends on UnifiedDyes, which depends on Flowers.
19:16 Mallot1 and um i i just got them
19:16 Mallot1 ill try again
19:16 darkrose jordach: you'll need to replace every v{2,3}s15 with something bigger or you'll be stuck on that limit
19:16 jordach is there a way from the command line to find and replace?
19:16 MiJyn yes
19:16 MiJyn sed
19:16 MiJyn xD
19:16 jordach so sed v3s16 v3s32 DIR HERE
19:17 Mallot1 we need a frigerator,foods,stairs,and beds
19:18 MiJyn Mallot1, we have 3/4 of what you are talking about
19:18 VanessaE stairs exist.
19:18 MiJyn and why do we need a fridge?
19:18 VanessaE someone else did a refrigerator
19:18 VanessaE foods already exists as part of animals and the apples the default game has
19:19 VanessaE and someone else already did beds
19:19 Mallot1 really!!!!!!!!!!!
19:19 Mallot1 yes!
19:19 Mallot1 but we need a new beds downloa link
19:20 MiJyn mallot1, I think it's in minetest_game
19:21 Mallot1 and i can find refriges on the forum or working stairs and beds
19:21 Mallot1 weres tht
19:21 MiJyn beds?
19:21 MiJyn I think it is somewhere
19:21 Mallot1 yeah
19:21 MiJyn or maybe not
19:21 Mallot1 oh
19:22 Mallot1 do you know about stairs
19:22 MiJyn that's inside
19:22 MiJyn stairs:stair_wood
19:22 MiJyn I think
19:22 MiJyn someone could correct me though
19:22 Mallot1 ill try
19:23 MiJyn ok
19:23 Mallot1 wait in the game i dont need a mod
19:23 Mallot1 or anything
19:23 MiJyn yeah
19:23 Mallot1 ok
19:27 * VanessaE compiles darkrose's code...
19:27 VanessaE let's see what THIS breaks ;-)
19:27 darkrose heh, you should've seen my first test of it :D
19:29 VanessaE 15:29:17: ERROR[main]: Could not find or load game "minetest"
19:29 VanessaE wait, I may have forgotten to rename it
19:29 VanessaE yup
19:30 VanessaE ok, here goes nothin'
19:30 * darkrose pulls on tinfoil hat
19:30 VanessaE so far so good
19:31 Mallot1 it didnt work it wasnt there
19:31 VanessaE now to torture it
19:31 * VanessaE installs unifiedbricks and 89-color cotton :-)
19:31 Mallot1 ok
19:33 VanessaE 15:33:06: ERROR[main]: ModError: mod "stairsplus" has unsatisfied dependencies: "stairs".
19:33 VanessaE ok now that's odd...isn't stairs part of the default game now?
19:34 darkrose yes
19:35 VanessaE ah, stairs didn't get brought in with your fork of minetest_game
19:35 darkrose yeah, haven't updated that in a while
19:36 VanessaE should I just pull from vanilla?
19:36 darkrose yeah
19:36 VanessaE ok
19:37 Mallot1 whats vanila
19:37 VanessaE nope, that blowed up. :-)
19:38 Mallot1 is the dev build out yet
19:38 VanessaE vanilla refers to the original code maintained by celeron55.
19:39 Mallot1 oh
19:39 VanessaE no it isn't out yet.  we build from source for now.
19:39 darkrose defined 'blowed up'
19:39 VanessaE darkrose: 15:37:34: ERROR[main]: ...minetest-1860a9e/bin/../mod​s/minetest/pipes/init.lua:48: attempt to index global 'default' (a nil value)
19:39 Mallot1 pipes oesnt work 4 me either
19:39 VanessaE note that that mod works fine in full vanilla, and also in your copy using your version of minetest_game
19:40 Mallot1 can i learn lua from github
19:40 Fixer_ learn from manual :}
19:41 Mallot1 on the site
19:41 VanessaE you could if you want to read through the code
19:41 VanessaE but if you want to learn LUA, go find a tutorial on the web.
19:41 darkrose that's a lua problem, not what I want tested, just remove the mod
19:41 Mallot1 it will teach my the coding language
19:41 VanessaE (like I said twice already)
19:41 VanessaE darkrose: that's the plan
19:42 Mallot1 ?me
19:42 Mallot1 :(
19:43 Mallot1 '<VanessaE> (like I said twice already)' me?:(
19:43 VanessaE yeah
19:43 Mallot1 srry im new to programming
19:44 VanessaE wtf, now suddenly nothing works.
19:44 VanessaE I better rebuild.
19:44 Mallot1 if i click my name where it says server is this my new server
19:45 VanessaE dunno, it depends on your IRC client.
19:45 Mallot1 is this                 server   : rowling.freenode.net [Corvallis, OR, USA]                my server fror minetesr game
19:46 Mallot1 oh ok
19:46 Mallot1 ill just try it
19:46 VanessaE no, definitely not
19:46 jordach anybody here: make a endless map
19:46 VanessaE that's the IRC server you are using - it is not in any way related to minetest
19:46 Mallot1 oh
19:48 VanessaE ok, removed pipes and stairsplus.
19:48 VanessaE I am still hitting that "The server is probably  running a different version of Minetest."
19:49 Mallot1 anyone have a server i can play
19:49 Mallot1 im bored
19:49 darkrose VanessaE: you're getting that on singleplayer?
19:49 VanessaE yup
19:49 VanessaE gimme a sec
19:50 Mallot1 anyone have a server i can play im bored
19:50 VanessaE dammit why can I never remember how to grep for multiple patterns.
19:51 Mallot1 anyone have a server i can play im bored
19:51 Mallot1 anyone have a server i can play im bored
19:51 VanessaE vanessa@rainbird:~/darkrose-minetest-1860a9e$ cat debug.txt | egrep "registerCraft: registering|ItemDefManager: registering"|wc
19:51 VanessaE 2251   17794  271951
19:51 VanessaE 2251 registered items and crafts with my full set of mods in place.
19:51 Mallot1 anyone have a server i can play im bored
19:52 Mallot1 anyone have a server i can play im bored
19:52 VanessaE Mallot1: do not repeat yourself.
19:52 Mallot1 anyone have a server i can play im bored
19:52 Mallot1 srry
19:52 Mallot1 i wasnt sure if it was being read
19:52 VanessaE http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1705
19:52 VanessaE try here
19:52 Mallot1 thanks
19:54 VanessaE wait,
19:54 VanessaE that wasn't with all of my mods, that was just enough to break it :-)
19:55 VanessaE here's with everything (except pipes and stairsplus):
19:55 VanessaE vanessa@rainbird:~/darkrose-minetest-1860a9e$ cat debug.txt | egrep "registerCraft: registering|ItemDefManager: registering"|wc
19:55 VanessaE 3784   34179  573000
19:56 VanessaE (always from a freshly-generated debug.txt)
19:56 VanessaE darkrose:  ^^^
19:57 darkrose so... it works? or not >.>
19:57 VanessaE it does not work.
19:57 VanessaE 15:55:41: ERROR[main]: A serialization error occurred:
19:57 VanessaE 15:55:41: ERROR[main]: deSerializeString: size not read
19:57 VanessaE 15:55:41: ERROR[main]: The server is probably  running a different version of Minetest.
19:57 VanessaE Quit message received.
19:58 VanessaE (and no, there is no "fat one" balancing "two skinny ones" ;-)  )
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20:21 Mallot1 hi
20:21 Mallot1 soo whats been going on
21:26 Mallot1 hello whats up
21:26 Mallot1 anyone here
21:34 Mallot1 hello
21:34 Mallot1 is
21:34 Mallot1 anyone
21:34 Mallot1 hre
21:34 Mallot1 hello
21:34 Mallot1 hello
21:34 Mallot1 hello
21:39 Mallot1 heello
21:40 brobostigon hi Mallot1
21:40 Mallot1 tankgoodness
21:40 brobostigon Mallot1: just repeating the same over and over, isnt going to help.
21:40 Mallot1 how do you chat with people if they r not in this chat
21:41 brobostigon they are, but they might be busy, or away,
21:41 Mallot1 i would like to know how to chat with people n the side bar
21:41 brobostigon but, there has been little other activity, and it will stand out, once only, when we look back at our irssi windows.
21:42 Mallot1 ok anyway
21:42 Mallot1 i have wool mod and stairs
21:42 Mallot1 when i use them the textures dont work
21:42 Mallot1 what should i do
21:43 Mallot1 helo
21:43 Mallot1 you there
21:43 brobostigon helo is welsh.
21:44 Mallot1 ?
21:44 Mallot1 is that another language
21:44 brobostigon Mallot1: i have 25 other irc channels open, please be patient.
21:44 Mallot1 oh srry
21:46 Mallot1 i have wool mod and stairs when i use them the textures dont work. what should i do
21:47 brobostigon Mallot1: i havent tried those mods yet, so couldnt say, sorry, try and ask in #minetest it is normally busier than here.
21:47 Mallot1 ok thank you
21:47 Mallot1 wait
21:47 brobostigon as i said, you dont need to pm me, please.
21:47 brobostigon be patient.
21:47 Mallot1 stairs is included with game i just want to know
21:48 Mallot1 to fix the texture prob
21:48 brobostigon also, it is against most rules, to pm, without asking, i am going to point out,
21:48 Mallot1 i dont know wat that is
21:49 brobostigon Mallot1: you just did it to me twice, you private messaged me.
21:49 Mallot1 oh srry ill
21:49 Mallot1 close it
21:49 brobostigon just dont do it, without asking, otherwise i will report it.
21:49 Mallot1 ok srry
21:50 Mallot1 im talking on another erson right now brb
21:50 brobostigon ok.
21:51 Mallot1 ok
21:51 Mallot1 almost ready
22:46 Mallot1 well the mod comes on
22:46 Mallot1 but the textures
22:46 Mallot1 dont come out right
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23:06 Mallot1 hi
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23:33 Mallot1 hi
23:34 VanessaE hi
23:35 Mallot1 um how do you change your passwrd f you forgot
23:36 VanessaE in the game?
23:36 Mallot1 yes
23:37 VanessaE well in singleplayer mode there is no password.  on a server, you have to ask the server admin to reset it.
23:37 Mallot1 i meant
23:37 Mallot1 i have a password that i set
23:37 Mallot1 and i forgt it
23:38 Mallot1 so the game wont load the server
23:38 VanessaE ask the server administrator.
23:42 Mallot1 ok
23:42 Mallot1 but is there a file that holds y password tha i could delete
23:42 VanessaE no, that stuff is stored on the server
23:43 VanessaE (or at least, that's how passwords are managed in every other network application)
23:44 Mallot1 ill just download the game
23:44 Mallot1 again
23:44 VanessaE that won't help
23:44 VanessaE ask.  the.  server.  admin.
23:44 Mallot1 what is if set a new password
23:45 Mallot1 ok
23:45 Mallot1 i.will.do.it
23:45 VanessaE password issues with a server must defer to the server administrator.  we can't help you with that because there isn't anything to help on the client side of things.
23:46 Mallot1 oh i understand
23:46 VanessaE good :-)
23:56 Mallot1 hi
23:56 VanessaE i
23:56 VanessaE hi

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